Vollems....

[Maggie]

I love my vollems. My tailor travels with them and might actually be able to access the queens forge soon. Please dont nerf.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

always cry babies asking for a nerf.
Beetles-nerfed
greater dragons-nerfed
forgot what else was over powered and babies cmplained and got nerfed.

Who cares if stronger than a nightmare?
This is a game.

The point of a game is to have fun. The moment it is no longer fun, it fails to be a game to me. We both would agree that your idea of fun differs from mine, however dont crap in my sandbox and tell me everything is alright. '

You just pooped in my sandbox...you plan on leaving the loaf there or do you intend on cleaning up after your mess?

 

[Splup]

People wanted to NERF the tamers, so PvP would be PvP and not PvM.

Giving other temps pets too doesnt make PvM more PvP but even more PvM

 

[JPDefault]

People wanted to NERF the tamers, so PvP would be PvP and not PvM.

Giving other temps pets too doesnt make PvM more PvP but even more PvM

No, it makes it MvM, which is more interesting...

 

[maroite]

I missed no point

You have not made any that has any real credibility.

Any one that is going to use a Rune Beetle (hello that requires Taming) is NOT going to use a Vollem. Oh my maybe a Nightmare because they are riding it but .... And as you may be clueless, if you can't kill the Tamer character then perhaps you need to go to PvP 101 untill you know how. Meaning Fine the Tamer sic's his Nightmare+Rune on you and you sic the Vollem on him now he needs to avoid the Vollem and if you have graduated PvP 101 then you should know you are FAR MORE able to survive the Nightmare+Rune that the Tamer is able to survive the Vollem.

As to your 2 Vollem *Rolls Eyes* fine so the Stealth Archer is in combat vs his own peer. So yeah get a clue it is a NON GAME CHANGER. Because ALL THE NON TAMERS CAN HAVE TWO Vollem. Get it?

If you took the time to analyze the tactics the only destabilization comes when a NON Tamer vs a Tamer anything else is Equal vs Equal OR ****** that refuses to change/adapt.

I don't mean to be argumentative etc, I would think it immediately obvious that in PvP every NON TAMER can have two (and why would any Tamer want even one of these). If it isn't obvious, then stop and think about it. It makes them MOOT. Get it everyone can have two, the same number, the same capability. Get it yet?

You're not very bright are you?

A tamer has to have at least 100 lore/taming to control a nightmare. thats 200 (or more) skill points that gets taken away from other useful skills.

Now, with vollems, you can have a complete pvp build NOT based around taming, and use pets that are the equiv of having 100 lore/taming.

Do you see the point now? Its not about every NON tamer getting 2, its about them being the equal of two nightmares, 100 taming/lore pets without that requirement.

The point of a game is to have fun. The moment it is no longer fun, it fails to be a game to me. We both would agree that your idea of fun differs from mine, however dont crap in my sandbox and tell me everything is alright. '

You just pooped in my sandbox...you plan on leaving the loaf there or do you intend on cleaning up after your mess?

The devs pooped in all tamers sandboxes by adding a nightmare lvl 2 slot pet that anyone can use. When are they going to clean that up?

 

[JPDefault]

You're not very bright are you?

A tamer has to have at least 100 lore/taming to control a nightmare. thats 200 (or more) skill points that gets taken away from other useful skills.

Now, with vollems, you can have a complete pvp build NOT based around taming, and use pets that are the equiv of having 100 lore/taming.

Do you see the point now? Its not about every NON tamer getting 2, its about them being the equal of two nightmares, 100 taming/lore pets without that requirement.

Then make the Nightmares require 0 taming and animal lore as well, what's the problem?

 

[maroite]

Then make the Nightmares require 0 taming and animal lore as well, what's the problem?

Why not just take taming out of the game and let everyone just say "Hey, join me <insert monster here>."

It amuses me that non tamers and low lvl tamers got bouras (which are pretty nice actually) and vollems and real tamers got...

a skree...

 

[Miriandel]

A friend of mine kills rune beetles with his lone vollem.
So much for harmless animals.

He's working on his tamer, so yes he has vet (master level iirc), but he can take beetles on with only that pet and his subpar archery skills.

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

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Do you see the point now? Its not about every NON tamer getting 2, its about them being the equal of two nightmares, 100 taming/lore pets without that requirement...

You seem to think because you WANT SOMETHING TO BE AN ISSUE OR *COUGH* A POINT THAT IT MUST BE.

Your rant is premised on the Vollem being some kind of DESIRABLE PET FOR A TAMER. Why don't you RANT ABOUT GOLLEMS and Tinkers. And claim you have made a OH SO BRILLIANT POINT ABOUT UO BEING KILLED BY THEM.

Prove you have a point, release all your pets and be a Tamer with 2 Vollem's. Oh wait you say NO FREAKING WAY I WANT THAT TRASH PET.

As I said to you earlier you made NO CREDIBLE POINT.

A friend of mine kills rune beetles with his lone vollem.
So much for harmless animals.

He's working on his tamer, so yes he has vet (master level iirc), but he can take beetles on with only that pet and his subpar archery skills.

Why do you believe that in any sense proves the Vollem is a Greater Dragon killer in one hit?

I can vet, cure and gh an untrained Bake Kitsune and kill Runic Beetles, and they do NOT require Animal Taming ... (do you know by who?) so shall we remove Bake Kitsunes, because they are so overwhelmingly power as to destroy all of UO? Oh wait a miniute, it has been that way for a while and guess what UO is still here.

 

[The Fallout]

I can't believe people are crying about these.

They are so slow and their damage output is incredibly weak.

The only thing they are good for is disrupts.

Me and two other guildies did an EXP/FS synch on an opponents vollem and it died instantly.

These are not a problem.

And LOL at the guys talking about how a stealth archer with 2 vollems is godly. I'll let you in on a little secret, if anyone died to a dismount, and 2 vollems they aren't good and it wasn't an accomplishment.

And hmm.. I see two vollems moving in the same direction that appear to be following something invisible. I'll just not stand right there, or ill paralyze them, or I'll just not suck at UO and out run them on foot because they are slow as hell.

My other favorite was the dexer who said he will own people when he uses his lesser hiryu to dismount and then petball his vollem. lol yaokidontthinkso. You go ahead and spend 3 seconds summoning a vollem, I'll be the guy teleporting away and invising to mount my pet again.

Thank you, I have seen them used a few times, and every time they died very quick. The only time they were somewhat effective was a x-energy field para-gank, but then, what isn't lol.

 

[maroite]

Hum, speaking of brightness, I assume no one has ever accused you NOT being the brightest bulb on the tree.

You seem to think because you WANT SOMETHING TO BE AN ISSUE OR *COUGH* A POINT THAT IT MUST BE.

Your rant is premised on the Vollem being some kind of DESIRABLE PET FOR A TAMER. Why don't you RANT ABOUT GOLLEMS and Tinkers. And claim you have made a OH SO BRILLIANT POINT ABOUT UO BEING KILLED BY THEM.

Prove you have a point, release all your pets and be a Tamer with 2 Vollem's. Oh wait you say NO FREAKING WAY I WANT THAT TRASH PET.

As I said to you earlier you made NO CREDIBLE POINT.



Why do you believe that in any sense proves the Vollem is a Greater Dragon killer in one hit?

I can vet, cure and gh an untrained Bake Kitsune and kill Runic Beetles, and they do NOT require Animal Taming ... (do you know by who?) so shall we remove Bake Kitsunes, because they are so overwhelmingly power as to destroy all of UO? Oh wait a miniute, it has been that way for a while and guess what UO is still here.

No its not.

See you're NOT getting the point.

The POINT is that the vollum, when fully trained is the same as a nightmare.

NON Tamers can use these pets without taming or lore. This ADDS to non tamers damage, whether or not you want to admit to it. They are getting nightmare equivalent (96.4 taming required) pets without the need for taming.

My point has nothing to do with whether the vollem is desirable to a tamer or not. It has everything to do with other build being able to utilize their FULL potential, on top of stacking (possibly 2) nightmare level pets.

My point didn't even include tamers actually. You're the one that threw them in their. I only said that people without taming are getting the possibility to have two nightmare powered pets on complete non tamer builds with the ability to mount. The tinkered ones don't bother me too much because they cant bond, but the crystal ones, which bond and can be ressed and healed normally, I think will be rediculous. Huge pvp players like stealth archers will now bring MORE to the table.

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

.......

Look you clearly and desperately want there to be an issue and point to your venting.

There isn't. There are so many ways to counter everything you said but in the end it wont matter to you and you will remain 100% convinced that because I do not agree with you that I must not understand you, because if I understood you I would be required to agree with you.

You do not even know what skill gets the use of the Bake Kitsune and others with no taming. IF you had a well rounded knowledge of Taming you would have known that Bake Kitsune is the equal to, if not SUPERIOR to the Vollem.

So lets stop boring everyone and you make your required rebuttal of how your misunderstood and then just let it go.

Psst ... look up the bake kitsune it is a 2 slot pet.

 

[LSRemy]

Stop complaining people. Leave them as they are. Most people, as will I, will be using them to guard my crafter, nothing more.

They are not that game changing. I am looking at running a Gargoyle sampire that will have 2 bakes bonded and controlled with the use of summon familiar and hey i can fly so nothing to slow me down. This IMO will be a stronger temp when fully trained than your 2 Vollums idea. Really though, I have a Necro Tamer so dont think i am anti tamers, but i do think it is a big deal over nothing.

My 2 cents.