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Veteran Rewards

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Dain

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A runestone that you could mark INSIDE your house!

Rideable Proxy!

How about a customizable boat?

I also think that after 12 years of playing, you will have established yourself enough to be running your own business, so a second house should definitely be an option!

How about something like a "scrying pool", allows you to temporarily teleport anywhere in the game and walk around invisible for a few seconds.

A mini statue that, instead of summoning a mount, summons a monster?

E.G a Demon statue that that summon up to 1 Demon an hour?

Ethereal armor? 1 use item that can add a permanent suit of armor to an ethy mount, gives the same benefits as say dragon barding?

I'm kind of out of the ideas now lol

ON A SIDE NOTE!

Is anyone else account age stuck?! I swear one of my newer accounts has been on 59 months for nearly 3 months now!
 

Aurelius

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Sawmill, so you can throw as many logs as you like into it and have them changed to boards, rather than wade through them one backpack full at a time...
 

Olahorand

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Sawmill, so you can throw as many logs as you like into it and have them changed to boards, rather than wade through them one backpack full at a time...
since the axe is used directly to cut logs to boards, you can do it the same way as a tailer with his scissors with a heavy stack of leather.

*Salute*
Olahorand
 

Aurelius

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since the axe is used directly to cut logs to boards, you can do it the same way as a tailer with his scissors with a heavy stack of leather.

*Salute*
Olahorand
Well, as a ten-year 'newb' - I have no idea what you mean! Further clarification would be appreciated ;)
 

popps

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How about for a 12th year reward a choice pick for a true server birth rare ?

Like a covered chair or something else.

Or, a special tool that allows a 12th year vet to redeed 120 powerscrolls from the character into a deed again ?

Or a tamer's special whistle that makes the beast being tamed milder so less likely to be angered when being tamed ?

Or a special cart that can hold 5,000 stones to be usefull when moving or mining/chopping ?

Or a banker advisor that, when locked down in one's own home can allow to access the bank from home ?

Or what about a transfer token ?
 
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Merriweather

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A bed you can lie down in

10% more storage

A display case you can put objects in and have them be visible

A donkey cart to carry more stuff than a pack animal can
 

Potgut

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Ridable stuff is always cool, I always wanted to see a ridable human, like piggy-back riding on a npc's shoulders or something.
 

popps

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Another idea for a new cool Veteran Reward could be "Rechargeable Soulstone tokens"........

We already have red soulstones as a 1st year vet reward but they are not in token.

We have Soulstone Fragment tokens but they are not rechargeable.

We have now 1 charges craftable soulstones but they only have 1 use, are not rechargeable and take up resources to make.

So, how about a new Veteran Reward of a Soulstone token (i.e. tradeable) that comes with 10 charges and recharges 1 charge per day over non use ?
 
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Connor_Graham

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So, how about a new Veteran Reward of a Soulstone token (i.e. tradeable) that comes with 10 charges and recharges 1 charge per day over non use ?
Why the hell would they add this when a regular soulstone can be used an unlimited number of times per day?


Oh, and my vote is for an armored, rideable Pegasus, similar to the Paroxy swampy, but with a much cooler color on the armor. Since we now have flying, the Pegasus could fly along the Garg flight paths so that Elves and Humans can have access to the Garg only places.
 

popps

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Why the hell would they add this when a regular soulstone can be used an unlimited number of times per day?


The Red Soulstone does not come as a token and, therefore, is not tradeable.

The new 10 charges, rechargeable Soulstone would be in a token form and, therefore, tradeable.

Soulstone fragments are tradeable because in token form but not rechargeable.

The new craftable soulstones besides coming with only 1 use only, take up resources.

So, there does is room, IMHO, for a Vet reward which would be rechargeable and in token form. It is something that simply does not exist in the game as such.
There are variations but nothing as this new Vet Reward would be.

Besides, such a Vet Reward would not create problems to existing ones since it would not be a full soulstone and would still be limited by the 1 recharge per day possible.

A good addition with no negatives attached to it. So why not ?
 

Hildebrand

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Why the hell would they add this when a regular soulstone can be used an unlimited number of times per day?


The Red Soulstone does not come as a token and, therefore, is not tradeable.

The new 10 charges, rechargeable Soulstone would be in a token form and, therefore, tradeable.

Soulstone fragments are tradeable because in token form but not rechargeable.

The new craftable soulstones besides coming with only 1 use only, take up resources.

So, there does is room, IMHO, for a Vet reward which would be rechargeable and in token form. It is something that simply does not exist in the game as such.
There are variations but nothing as this new Vet Reward would be.

Besides, such a Vet Reward would not create problems to existing ones since it would not be a full soulstone and would still be limited by the 1 recharge per day possible.

A good addition with no negatives attached to it. So why not ?
I for one, would not want a precious 12yr vet reward that I would trade to someone else. These rewards are meant to be used by that vet to enjoy. If someone wants a soulstone, they can buy it from EA.
I'd rather see something NEW.
My 2 gp.
 

Aurelius

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You could have used the Search function :party:
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Well, if I'd had a clue what exactly I was searching on (logs, cutting, making boards, tailor, 'stack of leather', carpenter.. ? ) then I'd have tried that, but all those options give rather more results than can be easily sifted through.

Extremely useful trick that though, thanks for explaining it.
 

Riply

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hmmm I would like to have a special gold shovel that would allow me to dig my own basement to my existing house. Then also add like 20% more storage space to my house. The shovel is account bound meaning it can only be used on the home that you own, if the house is sold to another player the basement would be removed unless they have a golden shovel reward already on them or in the bank. A warning would come up to the player purchasing the house from another player while the transaction is taking place that the basement will be removed.
 

Zayin666

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hmmm I would like to have a special gold shovel that would allow me to dig my own basement to my existing house. Then also add like 20% more storage space to my house. The shovel is account bound meaning it can only be used on the home that you own, if the house is sold to another player the basement would be removed unless they have a golden shovel reward already on them or in the bank. A warning would come up to the player purchasing the house from another player while the transaction is taking place that the basement will be removed.
Back in the day before I closed my accounts (reopend them not too long ago) I had a grandfathered small house placed ontop of the little cavern on Ice Island... so basicly I already back then had a basement :)

House was great for RPing pirates, as we could hold prisoners in the cave while drinking ale and guarding from the house :)
 

popps

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I'd rather see something NEW.


Well, talking about something NEW, I hardly see yet another ethereal (or not) rideable, even though of a different shape and form, as anything really new.........

There is already a ton of vet rideables and seeing a new one on top of all those many already existing within the pool of Veteran Rewards, hardy looks to me as anything really "NEW"......
 
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Connor_Graham

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It would be extremely stupid of the Devs to design a vet reward based on it's trade value.
 

popps

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It would be extremely stupid of the Devs to design a vet reward based on it's trade value.

Really ?

Then how come over the years we have had TONS of tradeable Vet Rewards already ??

Dye tubs just to mention one but commodities box one of the latest and several others in between....

We have been having tradeable Vet Rewards all over during these years so I do not see what the big deal would be for a soulstone recharcheable token...
 
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Aboo

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I would love to have anything to decorate with. I wish I could find the pictures of the vet rewards they once thought about giving us. They came in a theme with several items to the package. One had a bar with bottles, another coffin with cob webs, I think there was a fishing theme. Anyone still have those pictures?
 
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Flora Green

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The red soulstone should have been in token form. I would have chosen one on my young account and given it to my older acct, but no way I'm using a first year choice on a 9 year old account.
 

Arcades

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I'd personally like the DEVs to finish/revamp the virtue system over any and all vet rewards. The Virtues have been core of Ultima lore, and thus should be treated rightfully so, especially after SA has now been officially released.

But a few suggestions for 11th and 12th yr rewards:

11th:
Silver Steed ethy
Europa Gold vet reward robe, dress, cloak
Necro Blue vet reward robe, dress, cloak

12th:
Flying ethy mount (drake / fairy dragon)
Real horse barding (like paroxy swamp dragon)
Ethereal hooded robe (like the ones in altered Moonglow)
 

popps

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I

But a few suggestions for 11th and 12th yr rewards:

11th:
Silver Steed ethy

12th:
Flying ethy mount (drake / fairy dragon)


Just curious. Why is it that when it comes to Veteran Rewards, inevitably mentions of rideables whether or not ethereal, come up ?

I mean, really, don't we have already plenty ??
 
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Tazar

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Just curious. Why is it that when it comes to Veteran Rewards, inevitably mentions of rideables whether or not ethereal, come up ?

I mean, really, don't we have already plenty ??
It comes up because it is one of the few things in game that seems to be a fair item for a vet reward.

It stands out because few have it.
It does not provide an unfair advantage.
 
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Connor_Graham

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Really ?

Then how come over the years we have had TONS of tradeable Vet Rewards already ??
They weren't designed specifically so they could be traded like you want with the soulstones. The fact that they are is a side effect, not the goal of their creation.
 

popps

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It comes up because it is one of the few things in game that seems to be a fair item for a vet reward.

It stands out because few have it.
It does not provide an unfair advantage.

So if Ultima Online keeps going for many years to come (hopefully) eventually we will be flooded by a ton and a half of veteran rewards rideables, whether ethereal or not ??

Perhaps at some point something else should be found as a change, shouldn't it ?

I mean, doesn't it get old as an idea, after a while ?
 
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XLaCeDX

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I'd like to see a new cloth dye tub - that creates all the "lost" colors -

The true white from the Smithson exploit
The evil mage/nightmare/thrasher tail exploit gray/blacks
The quest item orange
The Europa Gold
The long-lost Ilshenar Green (the original color of the dye tub that is where Granpa Charley is now)
The supposedly rare Zog Green (that isn't all that rare, and only barely green)

etc.

Dye tub would require special dyes, and dye a different number of items based on the color (only clothes, not any form of cloth). Cloth for furniture items could be gotten by dying a bunch of cloth-intensive clothing items and recycling.


Yes Yes and Yes!


Not only would such a dye tub give UO inhabitants the ability to look more coordinated and pulled together, some of these colors like the Europa gold would suck the wind right out of some duper's sails as well.

But make them anniversary gifts not vet rewards please!

I'd add ethereal dye to even the playing field over those duped/exploit cloaks of shadow EXCEPT that I know how certain ethereal cloth items wrecked havoc on some folks computers causing the UO client to shut down and refuse to reopen a few years back on Test Sosaria.

I did love my ethereal plain dress on Test Sosaria though, no bra lines.

:)

Ethereal cloth hats, ethereal gilded dresses and ethereal bolts of cloth however, were a one way ticket to client crash city on my old pentium II with 300k of ram.
 

popps

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They weren't designed specifically so they could be traded like you want with the soulstones. The fact that they are is a side effect, not the goal of their creation.

Well, not entirely.
For example, a rechargeable soulstone could also be used by same players who, for example, have more than one account or have family multiple accounts without for example wasting a 12 year pick to get a 1 year Red Soulstone...

This way, they could claim the tokens with the account that needs them the least and transfer them to their account who needs them the most within the same one family.

With Red Soulstones, this cannot be done.

So, it would not be necessarily trading for profit, it could be trading for better efficiency of multiple accounts within a family, for example.
 

Black Sun

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I'm still a ways off from one of the fancy 10/11/12 year rewards (should 11&12 ever make it in). But I would sell my grandmother for a rideable gorilla. I want a gorilla who can carry me around on his shoulders.
 
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XLaCeDX

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would kill for. Would also like rideable cow!

Ridable cows!

Cow racing!

I'd want to see some slow cows and people slipping and sliding off the cows though.

So maybe make them a fun anniversary gift?

You get a real cow that insta-bonds, is ridable, in a random cow color that you can train and raise skills and stats on especially for cow races?

Cows move slower than normal mounts because they're large and heavy, so you can ride them anywhere you want if you don't mind their slow movement.

Make a cow racing mini game similiar to the new battle chicken system.

Cows have random quirks including awkward movements, stopping, starting at random, etc, which can be tweaked by various special halters, special foods, the current weather, and the cows current mood? Make the cows sweat so they get slippery and their riders have a chance of slipping off so it's fun to watch the races.

Maybe make cow racing an NPC hosted regular weekly event with regular and real prizes, like ribbons, trophies, posters of winners, gp, title for the winning cows owners?
 
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XLaCeDX

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How about for a 12th year reward a choice pick for a true server birth rare ?

Like a covered chair or something else.

Or, a special tool that allows a 12th year vet to redeed 120 powerscrolls from the character into a deed again ?

Or a tamer's special whistle that makes the beast being tamed milder so less likely to be angered when being tamed ?

Or a special cart that can hold 5,000 stones to be usefull when moving or mining/chopping ?

Or a banker advisor that, when locked down in one's own home can allow to access the bank from home ?

Or what about a transfer token ?



"Or a special cart that can hold 5,000 stones to be usefull when moving or mining/chopping ?"


Make it bonded to the owner maybe so that it can recall with the owner and yes to this.

If we can magically transport ourselves to another location far away no reason that same magic couldn't also transport a heavy cart of ore or logs or leather.

Give it the resists of the average pack animal that's been fully trained +5 or 10 since it's made of wood/metal, then, make it damageable if attacked by monsters or pks just as pack animals are. So that there is a reasonable chance that the owner can escape losing his cargo if he can stay alive and recall before the cart breaks.

If it breaks then it is lootable and would need repairing before it could be reused.

I'd vote this be a high level vet reward, even though as much as I'd love to own one my oldest account is just about to turn 5 years.

I think that there would be little to no afk scripting usage if only a 12 year account was allowed to use one.


"Or what about a transfer token ?"

Not really as an "Or" so much as an ADDITIONAL option to any other choices available such as new ethereals and if they added the choice of advanced character token, name/gender change token, extra storage/7th char slot, free month of playtime?

With the economy the way it is I am sure some would appreciate this as an option.

Frankly after 12 years of paying for UO I think ALL 12 year vets deserve a vet reward AND their 12 year account a free month of playtime (in token form so that they can use at any later date they desire).
 

popps

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Frankly after 12 years of paying for UO I think ALL 12 year vets deserve a vet reward AND their 12 year account a free month of playtime (in token form so that they can use at any later date they desire).


Hmmm.....a free month ? Who knows........

I mean, 10 bucks a month means 120 a year which becomes 1,440 over 12 years, moreless....

Now a free month would be what ? Not even 1 per cent of that ?

I don't know, but I think that the accounts of those who stayed with the game for 12 years should really see some juicy, very usefull veteran rewards meaningfull of staying loyal to the game for so long.

Yet some more useless rideable or eye candy tiles/items ? No thanks.

Should be something really worth it sticking maintaining the account active for such a long time.

That's at least how I see it.
 

Mike of Ameraust

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Bigger house footprints would be nice, maybe an extra tile both ways or maybe even an extra floor. Hmmm a 12 story high rise ........
 

Andrasta

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Hmm 12 years..

Bigger house footprint..Or an extra floor (basement?)

Extra house any size on any shard... (no castle or keep)

Many more new house tiles...

& More Lockdowns per house...
 

popps

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Hmm 12 years..

Bigger house footprint..Or an extra floor (basement?)

Extra house any size on any shard... (no castle or keep)

Many more new house tiles...

& More Lockdowns per house...


It kinda makes sense to give to oldest veteran players more storage/lockdowns spaces.

I mean, they played the game for the most years and, therefore, chances are that they may have more items/stuff to store/lockdown. Hence, give to them a nice 20% extra storage/lockdown space as a veteran reward pick ??
 

Maplestone

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Every patch is a veteran reward. Every rare drop you accumulate is a veteran reward. Every skill you've GMed is a veteran reward. Every piece of experience you gain in how the game works is a veteran reward.

If you've been playing for 12 years, you already have 12 years of advantages over someone starting out today.
 

popps

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Every patch is a veteran reward. Every rare drop you accumulate is a veteran reward. Every skill you've GMed is a veteran reward. Every piece of experience you gain in how the game works is a veteran reward.

If you've been playing for 12 years, you already have 12 years of advantages over someone starting out today.


Yes, but also came the frustration over server crashing, bugs, exploits and so forth.

Nonetheless, I agree with you but the point is that from a business point of view Veteran Rewards should work as an incentive to have as many players as possible want to keep their accounts active to eventually meet that year's particular Veteran Reward.

That is, Veteran Rewards should be rewarding enough to make a player want to keep the account active, perhaps even if they lost interest in the game for a while, so as to have their account age that time that might yield that particular Veteran Reward.

I am not sure that rideables, whether ethereal or not or eye candy decorations may be enough to have players willing to keep spending their money even when they may have temporarily lost interest in the game.

Increased storage to high end Veterans could perhaps do the trick along with some other more usefull rewards ?

My point is, that particularly high end Veteran Rewards should be meaningfull enough to have as many accounts be kept active, thus providing steady revenues to the game, even in times when players may have temporarily lost interest in the game.

At least, so is my opinion.
 

EvilIan

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Personal bless deed
This is an interesting point. As a 11th year veteran myself, I was disappointed to log onto Siege to see that I had missed the AOS personal bless deed even though I have one on every one of my characters on my home shard.
 

Olahorand

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This is an interesting point. As a 11th year veteran myself, I was disappointed to log onto Siege to see that I had missed the AOS personal bless deed even though I have one on every one of my characters on my home shard.
On Siege you get your personal bless from the context menu in the paperdoll.
*Salute*
Olahorand
 

Olahorand

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A second house on a different shard would be fine (and why should not one of these also be a castle?).
Another idea would be a soulstone retokenizer. This device would take existing soulstones and soulstone fragments and convert them back to a token. Rechargable, usage one time per month.
That way the red soulstones from other accounts (often also belonging to the vet) could be moved to a different account and all the pieces from IDOCs would still find a use.
If that is too powerfull, a soulstone rebinder would do something similar (flushing stored skills and changing bound account info), but only the account, which used that device on a soulstone, would be able to use the soulstone on himself. (So it could not be used to trade these stones.)

*Salute*
Olahorand
 
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Mitzlplik_SP

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I think vet rewards should be more for deco and aesthetic purposes and not actual use.

Reason being is that for those who have played 10+ years, many have not kept the SAME account the whole time.

For example, I have played since right when UOR was released, but my oldest account right now is 3 months.
Ditto!
I started UO before Tram,prolly 6-8 months before UOR. I no longer have that account :sad3:
I`ve since quit and returned twice. The account I currently have is a wee 18 months. Sux,I wish I would have kept those first two accounts. Would have been nice to be stylin on a polar bear. I agree with the deco only thing but on the other hand I don`t think eye candy you can only look at would cut it for peaple thats played (payed)for over a decade.They definately deserve a lil more.
 
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mutau

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This is an interesting point. As a 11th year veteran myself, I was disappointed to log onto Siege to see that I had missed the AOS personal bless deed even though I have one on every one of my characters on my home shard.
I was thinking for all shards. I didn't know it was on Seige.
 

popps

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I think vet rewards should be more for deco and aesthetic purposes and not actual use.

Reason being is that for those who have played 10+ years, many have not kept the SAME account the whole time.

For example, I have played since right when UOR was released, but my oldest account right now is 3 months.


This is a false problem, IMHO, and it could be dealt with, rather easily.

Want to prize and appraise REAL veteran account for obvious business reasons of customers having been loyal for so long but do not want to have sold account benefit from this special prize/bonuses but only real old customers/subscribers ?

Easy solution, make, for example, all 12 years Veteran Accounts eligible BUT make it clear that ONLY providing the original registration code, that sticked on the CD jewel case when the account was opened up and registered as first, will actually award the prize/bonus.

This way it will not much be possible for bought accounts to claim the prize.

No longer have the jewel case or CD ? Well, I would imagine that the accounting department somewhere might have the credit card number used to register the account, originally and it could be dealt on a case by case basis since 12th years account are in a limited number, anyways. Otherwise, sorry, tough luck. After all, this is a prize, a bonus, something extra and a line has to be drawn to prevent giving the prize to bought accounts and not to original 1997 registering players.

What I am trying to say, is that solutions can be found to award 12 years rewards to true 1997 registering players, it only needs thinking them over.
 
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mutau

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registration code on the 1st CD case? ouch. i don't think that should be a requirement.

After moving so many times, do you know how much crap bags were made between homes/cottages in just the 10 yrs i was playing?

if its not crucial when you are moving, its in the crap bag that gets tossed in the dumpster.
 

AtlanticVlad

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I don't see that happening any time soon. And I would for one be against it as I'm not using my original account any more I sold that long ago and when I realized I'd made a mistake a few months later I made sure to get an Account just as old as my original one. I know quite a few people who have done the same over the years. I did that so that when these kind of rewards came out I would make sure to get them... and as stated by someone earlier in this post the folks that have been paying for there accounts to be active for that long really do deserve some candy =) Perhaps a second home on that account would be fair I mean many of us vets have grandfathered homes any way, but I for one would love to have them in the new areas. I guess there might be the fear of losing some accounts that way but I doubt it most of us would just get more houses =) Honestly though I think my original suggestions in this thread were far more reasonable and not overpowered at all =)
 
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