Vet rewards should be useable at any account age.

[EnigmaMaitreya]

Two scenarios.

One has never played UO. One buy's a 10 year account. One is a fully vested Veteran.

One has played UO for 9 years, then seels the account. One starts over this month. One is a one month newbie.

I would hope the above points out a rather interesting paradox/Enigma

The rewards themselves should NOT be keyed to usage. Only to being able to claim them.

As to those saying there are NO new players to UO. Excuse me BUT the definition also includes any and all returning UO players that no longer have their accounts.

Are you really wanting to ... heck I cant even think what your wanting to categorize the returning player as ... so .....

 

[Nosuperiors_Damnfewequals]

At this point in time, I think the new players should have the ability to USE any and all vet rewards they can afford. But NOT the ability to get them, other than buying from a vet.

I mean, let's face it, 2 years to dye leather? Are we sposed to seriously, in this shape, even believe we will still be here in 2 years?

Geeez Louise, let em use em!

 

[o2bavr6]

I also don't want to see any effort in changing the Vet Rewards until they give us our 10 year vet rewards.

 

[legendsguy]

i'm happy enough to have vets have their dye tubs, even if i would like to dye my own runebooks. it's not that hard to find someone to dye them for you. where i do draw the line is at giving them a 720 skill cap. it's fine to give them rewards as a 'thank you' for playing, but to unbalance things for us newer folks doesn't seem fair.

 

[MoonglowMerchant]

i'm happy enough to have vets have their dye tubs, even if i would like to dye my own runebooks. it's not that hard to find someone to dye them for you. where i do draw the line is at giving them a 720 skill cap. it's fine to give them rewards as a 'thank you' for playing, but to unbalance things for us newer folks doesn't seem fair.

Yep, that is another system that stops people from making new accounts. It deserves it's own thread actually.....another day.

 

[o2bavr6]

Unfortunately for you, all a new player has to do is buy a vet account and voila he has access to the same rewards as a "vet".

So, what is the point?

Umm... what is your point. If a new player wants to use vet rewards have him go buy a vet account. You answered your own question.

And to tie the vet reward to claim it and not ussage is just plain dumb.

Me thinks you should just play test center since you don't like to work for anything.

Your proposed changes penalize vet players and thats ok to you, because it helps new players. In the end someone is excluded, and if this is the case, it should be the new player not the person who has showed financial loyalty to EA over the years

 

[o2bavr6]

Yep, that is another system that stops people from making new accounts. It deserves it's own thread actually.....another day.

I have to agree with you on this, although at the time there were good reasons for why they did it.

But by making humans have a natural +20 in all skills, it sort of evens this out.

 

[MoonglowMerchant]

Umm... what is your point. If a new player wants to use vet rewards have him go buy a vet account. You answered your own question.

And to tie the vet reward to claim it and not ussage is just plain dumb.

Me thinks you should just play test center since you don't like to work for anything.

Your proposed changes penalize vet players and thats ok to you, because it helps new players. In the end someone is excluded, and if this is the case, it should be the new player not the person who has showed financial loyalty to EA over the years

My point is we should be encouraging new players to make new accounts. Currently, we penalize new players who make new accounts with the vet reward system, the 720 cap, slow training times, etc...

I can't take on all the systems that stop new players from making new accounts in one thread, so this one is about the idiocy of attaching vet rewards to vet accounts when they people who own them now aren't vets at all.

The reward for financial loyalty is the right to choose the vet rewards free from a gump. Being able to get them like that is enough reward. We don't need to put new players 4 or 10 years behind. There won't be any new players. The proof is in the pudding.

 

[timbeOFbaja]

Your proposed changes penalize vet players and thats ok to you, because it helps new players.

Penalizing vet players? How? They are still the only ones who can get these things. If they don't want newbies to get ahold of them they can choose not to sell them to them.

You really think anybody considers a valorite robe as a status symbol in this video game? LOL. Step away form the computer dude.

 

[o2bavr6]

The crux of your argument is that vet rewards are for vets and new players shouldn't get them.

Unfortunately for you, all a new player has to do is buy a vet account and voila he has access to the same rewards as a "vet".

So, what is the point?

You can still reward veteran players by allowing them to choose rewards free. New players would have to trade for them or buy them.

However there is no reason to penalize "new" players. Vet rewards are one of the systems that encourages people NOT to make new accounts.

You can disagree, but your argument has little basis in logic. It boils down to making people go through what you went through and as you can see, there just isn't anyone with an interest in doing that when they are ten years behind from day one.

You see we had "no interest" in waiting either, but we had no choice.
I would still like to hear your opinon on my buying a car analogy.

 

[o2bavr6]

Penalizing vet players? How? They are still the only ones who can get these things. If they don't want newbies to get ahold of them they can choose not to sell them to them.

You really think anybody considers a valorite robe as a status symbol in this video game? LOL. Step away form the computer dude.

No, I consider the number of playrs who had to wait to use these items! You jsut want to throw all that out the window.

How is it fair that a certain percentage of all uo customers had to wait to use these items, and now you want anyone to be able to use them. This just makes vets angry for having to wait in the first place, but again thats ok to you since you wont have to wait to use this stuff.

 

[o2bavr6]

My point is we should be encouraging new players to make new accounts. Currently, we penalize new players who make new accounts with the vet reward system, the 720 cap, slow training times, etc...

I can't take on all the systems that stop new players from making new accounts in one thread, so this one is about the idiocy of attaching vet rewards to vet accounts when they people who own them now aren't vets at all.

The reward for financial loyalty is the right to choose the vet rewards free from a gump. Being able to get them like that is enough reward. We don't need to put new players 4 or 10 years behind. There won't be any new players. The proof is in the pudding.

Trust me when I say that Vet Rewards are nto the main reason that there is a lack of new customers. In fact how would a new customer even know what he is missing out on?

I tell you what... I will agree with you on the vet rewards, lets let anyone use them or even claim them, but only if they do the following; I want all rares to be available to everyone too. Why should someone who has a really rare item be the only one? We should all be able to get them

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Tell me what there is in WoW that you have to wait 2 years to use or do.

Get your eyesight back?

I disagree too.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

1. yes using it is part of the reward.

2. The rewards were established for vets..to encourage people to play longer.

3. this is not wow.

QFT! (especially for #3)

 

[Pasquinade]

I disagree with the OP. I am a returning player, back after half a decade away, and I disagree.
When I left I was a four year vet, and all that is gone, but I will put in my time to get my rewards.

 

[Draxous]

How can a person who has only played 2 months be a vet??

How many people buy accounts older than they have played UO?

How many people come back to UO on fresh... brand new accounts even tho they had played many years prior... making them "vets?"


You still have to wait those x amount of years to use those items... and I dont agree with allowing a 1st year account to ride a polar bear...

but, I also do not see why a new play can't dye the leather themselves with a leather dye tub... which is completely lame.

Certain things should at least be considered as worthy of looking at...

such as dye tubs... (well, really... only dye tubs imo)

 

[ColterDC]

As long as the rewards don't give someone an advantage in combat, then I think there's nothing wrong with having rewards for vets only.

With that being said I think the skill cap of 720 should be given to all players.


No other rewards give a combat advantage to the Vet. Of course someone could argue that the +3 phy from the vet robes does give an advantage, but it's such a small boost and it's available to anyone who's made it 1 year, that I don't think it really matters.

 

[timbeOFbaja]

Penalizing vet players? How? They are still the only ones who can get these things. If they don't want newbies to get ahold of them they can choose not to sell them to them.

You really think anybody considers a valorite robe as a status symbol in this video game? LOL. Step away form the computer dude.

No, I consider the number of playrs who had to wait to use these items! You jsut want to throw all that out the window.

How is it fair that a certain percentage of all uo customers had to wait to use these items, and now you want anyone to be able to use them. This just makes vets angry for having to wait in the first place, but again thats ok to you since you wont have to wait to use this stuff.

Worst argument yet. First of all vets didn't have to wait to use these things. No vet got sick of the game and thought to himself how much he'd like to quit, but if he just stuck around for another 37 months he could get that really nice ice white robe.

Second of all, things change in UO all the time. They opened up housing in Malas and suddenly that castle you had isn't so rare any more. They increase or decrease drop rates and things fluctuate in value. Declaring that something shouldn't be done just because it wasn't done previously, in regards to UO, is laughable.

The game is way different now than it was before. Rewards, when they were first introduced, were instant rewards to veteran players of a game still increasing in playerbase. They weren't dangled like a carrot as incentive to play from the start. Over time, those one or two year vet rewards turned into 8 and 9 year vet rewards that will be inaccessible to any new player of a shrinking userbase of a game that might not be around long enough for them to ever see those things. But that's okay for you, because as long as you get one as a mark of your suffering and stallwart devotion to a video game, you're happy even as you proudly wear it all by yourself when they switch off the servers.

Some kind of compromise I think would be best. Keep the restriction in for the first 12 or 24 months after which time, everything is unlocked for use. Playing UO for 2 years straight, with all the other increasing number of options out there, for a newbie, is a feat.

 

[butthead owns]

I like the current system of claiming the rewards at 1 year, 2 years, etc... but they should be useable by anyone.

Can you imagine starting UO today and having to wait 2 years to dye leather? It is an idea that has outlived it's time.

yeah well i had too so why should they make it easy for u if u want leather dyed u ask a vet its what people in the game use to look up to were true vets so if u wanna do it buy an acct to do it or ask someone i would be happy to dye items for peps its why u join a guild and make freinds this is why ultima is a good game is cuss u cant just be like a all out in a week or so like other games u had to earn the time in game just be glad u acct ages buy month and not hours played like other games i think the age system is fine i do think think they could stand to have a few new rewards that might be cool but you have to earn the time man

 

[Azureal]

But that's okay for you, because as long as you get one as a mark of your suffering and stallwart devotion to a video game, you're happy even as you proudly wear it all by yourself when they switch off the servers.

Some kind of compromise I think would be best. Keep the restriction in for the first 12 or 24 months after which time, everything is unlocked for use. Playing UO for 2 years straight, with all the other increasing number of options out there, for a newbie, is a feat.

WIN.

Now Im trying to figure out a way to shrink this down and use it as a signature.

 

[Evilminion]

Veteran rewards = rewards for veterans.

I like it that way. I'm so happy that I finally have my character statues! If they'd just been handed to me instead of earned through lots of anticipatory time, they wouldn't mean nearly as much.

Keep the VETERAN in veteran rewards.

 

[greatpumpkinator]

No...no...noooooo.

I haven't put my 7+ years in so that a 2 month old account can use the same reward stuff I can. They are VET rewards for a reason. REWARDS people!

And, no, to me, having 5 accounts for 1 year does NOT count the same a 1 account for 5 years.

It just doesn't add up. Stop complaining and put your time in. There's A LOT to be said for people that lived through AOS, as opposed to the people that jumped on board for the first time with ML and have NO CLUE about AOS.

 

[Azureal]

yeah well i had too so why should they make it easy for u if u want leather dyed u ask a vet its what people in the game use to look up to were true vets

What? Hahaha, people used to look up to "true" vets? Gimme a break.

 

[Specialshoes]

Can you imagine starting UO today and having to wait 2 years to dye leather? It is an idea that has outlived it's time.

As a matter of fact I can. Just like I can imagine the time I spent waiting 3 years to ride an ethy. Or the time I waited to be able to use 5th year rewards. Or the time I waited to have a 720 skill cap. Point being I have been a loyal customer for near a decade. Many many people have been loyal customers for even longer. And vet rewards were designed to reward that loyalty to the product.

 

[butthead owns]

As long as the rewards don't give someone an advantage in combat, then I think there's nothing wrong with having rewards for vets only.

With that being said I think the skill cap of 720 should be given to all players.


No other rewards give a combat advantage to the Vet. Of course someone could argue that the +3 phy from the vet robes does give an advantage, but it's such a small boost and it's available to anyone who's made it 1 year, that I don't think it really matters.

well man thats just dumb they shld have to eran it like we all had to u just posted no advantages and u are sayinf now u want peps to have one comon due the skill caps shald age every year up to where u can have every skill maked at 120 or 100 if you cant eat a scroll for it i think that would be cool this would make peps want to be a vet and not make so many new accts this way when u finally did quit your acct might be worth a poot they instead locked it at 720 which is junk man and true vets suffer becuase of noob peps complaining thet they dont have everything like someone else if u want it then earn it man or buy it this game has gone to soft if u ask me and needs a real think in the dv team to make peps want to play again if u make it so every one is same then why have vet rewards period you all need to think some before you post such dumb junk on this we all would love it to be equal but if it was what would you work for? this game is like life you want it you work for it you set goals and make it come true i started in moonglow grave yard training when this game came out to become a good player now i own loads i have a castle a keep two luna homes and i still have a few goals to work on this is why i still play is i make goals and i worked for everything i have sides my first set of amr hehe but it was platemail junk amr when there was no resit needed that made everyone equal if u ask me there were no super suit the best you could get was faction blessed amr i rember fighting nke with my axe and my horse heheh and it so owned it was the only way to pay was to run naked if the dvs woould get true thinker in their team the might have a better game and more peps wanting in it and staying in it

 

[Azureal]

No...no...noooooo.

I haven't put my 7+ years in so that a 2 month old account can use the same reward stuff I can. They are VET rewards for a reason. REWARDS people!

And, no, to me, having 5 accounts for 1 year does NOT count the same a 1 account for 5 years.

It just doesn't add up. Stop complaining and put your time in. There's A LOT to be said for people that lived through AOS, as opposed to the people that jumped on board for the first time with ML and have NO CLUE about AOS.

The way you say it, sounds like youre happy to be bribed with shiny new pixels for the trauma you suffered with AoS? And as for new players having no idea about AoS, they must be the ones that dont visit the forums and have to wade through the constant "AOS ruined my life and made my wife leave me and is the reason Im incontinent".

Im with the OP, but only to a degree.

You cant tell me that as a Bard capable of lulling the Balron into peaceful oblivion whilst my EVs eat his face, Im incapable of dunking some leather into a dye bucket?

Vets can keep their special mounts, can keep their flaming heads and pentagrams and orecarts full of gems. But for the love of God let me have some style!

 

[Azureal]

well man thats just dumb they shld have to eran it like we all had to u just posted no advantages and u are sayinf now u want peps to have one comon due the skill caps shald age every year up to where u can have every skill maked at 120 or 100 if you cant eat a scroll for it i think that would be cool this would make peps want to be a vet and not make so many new accts this way when u finally did quit your acct might be worth a poot they instead locked it at 720 which is junk man and true vets suffer becuase of noob peps complaining thet they dont have everything like someone else if u want it then earn it man or buy it this game has gone to soft if u ask me and needs a real think in the dv team to make peps want to play again if u make it so every one is same then why have vet rewards period you all need to think some before you post such dumb junk on this we all would love it to be equal but if it was what would you work for? this game is like life you want it you work for it you set goals and make it come true i started in moonglow grave yard training when this game came out to become a good player now i own loads i have a castle a keep two luna homes and i still have a few goals to work on this is why i still play is i make goals and i worked for everything i have sides my first set of amr hehe but it was platemail junk amr when there was no resit needed that made everyone equal if u ask me there were no super suit the best you could get was faction blessed amr i rember fighting nke with my axe and my horse heheh and it so owned it was the only way to pay was to run naked if the dvs woould get true thinker in their team the might have a better game and more peps wanting in it and staying in it

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[greatpumpkinator]

The way you say it, sounds like youre happy to be bribed with shiny new pixels for the trauma you suffered with AoS? And as for new players having no idea about AoS, they must be the ones that dont visit the forums and have to wade through the constant "AOS ruined my life and made my wife leave me and is the reason Im incontinent".

Im with the OP, but only to a degree.

You cant tell me that as a Bard capable of lulling the Balron into peaceful oblivion whilst my EVs eat his face, Im incapable of dunking some leather into a dye bucket?

Vets can keep their special mounts, can keep their flaming heads and pentagrams and orecarts full of gems. But for the love of God let me have some style!

It has nothing to do with bribery....I was using AOS as an example, and not to be taken as the whole argument.

Yes, I believe that using a leather dye tub should be a privilege. Something should be a privilege for those people that stuck with the game through the thick and thin.

 

[Azureal]

Take your recent post about Salvage bags. Your example about sticking through thick and thin came to mind.

For years my blacksmith had to smelt each individual item, now newbies can just chuck everything in a bag and smelt it all down in one click.

Why not make every item that comes out and makes things easier/better a vet reward?

In the end we are all going to have to agree to disagree. Im not sure I'll hang around another 12 monhts to simply colour the rune books Ive been making for the last 3 or so years, let alone another 7 years just to have coloured metal armor.

 

[ColterDC]

As long as the rewards don't give someone an advantage in combat, then I think there's nothing wrong with having rewards for vets only.

With that being said I think the skill cap of 720 should be given to all players.


No other rewards give a combat advantage to the Vet. Of course someone could argue that the +3 phy from the vet robes does give an advantage, but it's such a small boost and it's available to anyone who's made it 1 year, that I don't think it really matters.

well man thats just dumb they shld have to eran it like we all had to u just posted no advantages and u are sayinf now u want peps to have one comon due the skill caps shald age every year up to where u can have every skill maked at 120 or 100 if you cant eat a scroll for it i think that would be cool this would make peps want to be a vet and not make so many new accts this way when u finally did quit your acct might be worth a poot they instead locked it at 720 which is junk man and true vets suffer becuase of noob peps complaining thet they dont have everything like someone else if u want it then earn it man or buy it this game has gone to soft if u ask me and needs a real think in the dv team to make peps want to play again if u make it so every one is same then why have vet rewards period you all need to think some before you post such dumb junk on this we all would love it to be equal but if it was what would you work for? this game is like life you want it you work for it you set goals and make it come true i started in moonglow grave yard training when this game came out to become a good player now i own loads i have a castle a keep two luna homes and i still have a few goals to work on this is why i still play is i make goals and i worked for everything i have sides my first set of amr hehe but it was platemail junk amr when there was no resit needed that made everyone equal if u ask me there were no super suit the best you could get was faction blessed amr i rember fighting nke with my axe and my horse heheh and it so owned it was the only way to pay was to run naked if the dvs woould get true thinker in their team the might have a better game and more peps wanting in it and staying in it

There is not a chance in hell I'm going to try deciphering your hieroglyphic.

 

[Azureal]

There is not a chance in hell I'm going to try deciphering your hieroglyphic.

ROFL.

As much as the interwebs allows people to be complete knobjockeys, there is something to be said for punctuation and grammar.

 

[Coldren]

OP is right.

When you really break it down, Vet Rewards are not earned.. They're just paid for over a long period of time.

You do nothing to earn it in the game.. You don't slay beasts, beat impossible mobs, gain any skills, or have X PvP kills... You pay for it with a credit card every month.

It's a best a perk. And since all it comes down to is money and time.. I doubt how much "time" UO has left.. Might as well make them purchasable through the UO store.

And at the VERY least, DYE TUBS of ANY kind should not be tied to account age. It's not my fault the designers force you to either look good and have horrible stats, or have great stats and look like an assclown.

 

[Eslake]

OP is right.

When you really break it down, Vet Rewards are not earned.. They're just paid for over a long period of time.

Actually...

They're paid for all at once via PayPal.
Most Veteran accounts were purchased from previous users.

The ones complaining "Veteran rewards are rewards for long time subscribers" are missing that fact.

there are 3 kinds of veterans..
Those who have stuck around.
Those who just got here on a used account.
Those who have stuck around but still don't get the rewards.

Only 1 in 3 of those gets the rewards they actually qualify for. So 2 reasons of 3 to change the system.

.. or get them off their duffs and get the stupid age system working right.
I was a programmer for 16 years, and I still can't fathom how they designed the aging system so that it Could break. How hard is it to add 1 every time an account is paid for the month?? Mine should be in the 80s but shows 35. Yes I took breaks, but I'm taking those months out already.

 

[It Lives]

As long as its an item based game, vet rewards or not, there is going to be someone who has to have it handed to them on a gold plate.

Vet rewards are earned by payment in a timely fashion to the service provider, in return they offer the vet rewards. Like getting a better interest rate for being timely with your payments over years.

I still believe they work fine as an incentive to play longer. I think we need new rewards and possibly to add intermediate ones as well.


Ooh look I played 1.5 years I can get a mini house deed or a 10 charge tok dye..just an example......

 

[Deadly Shadow]

I enjoy the vet rewards. I have been playing since sept, 1997 and account is 126 old. And yes orginal owner. Silly I suppose but am proud of being an old timer and remember the day in the beginning. The game and the people have changes so much. But I do notice that a lot of folks do not work for the things that we had to in the beginning. They expect it now. They go out kill a few monsters and say ok now what i have won. I cant be beat. Every day there is something to do somewhere if you just think about it.

 

[Krystal]

I like the current system of claiming the rewards at 1 year, 2 years, etc... but they should be useable by anyone.

Can you imagine starting UO today and having to wait 2 years to dye leather? It is an idea that has outlived it's time.

nah, i think vets should get something special hell we put up with EA for 10 yrs ugggggggggggg

 

[Olahorand]

I would be for a compromise - house add on rewards should be usable for all account ages, once they are claimed. You can lock down an ethie bear, why you cant so with a house add on like the Ankh? And if one wants to provide service like the often mentioned dye tubes usable to everybody - may it be.
Would I - as a new player - really hand over my most valuable armor pieces to get them colored unified to somebody who claims to be old enough to dye them for me? Can I trust that player?

All status symbols carried by a character (ethie mounts, clothes) should still be limited to the account age of the char.

*Salute*
Olahorand

 

[timbeOFbaja]

No...no...noooooo.

I haven't put my 7+ years in so that a 2 month old account can use the same reward stuff I can. They are VET rewards for a reason. REWARDS people!

You'd be upset if he could just use them? If you don't want a 2 month old account to use one....don't give or sell it to them. If somebody else wants to sell of give away their reward WTF do you care? Seriously. How freaking petty can you be? I'd think at this point you'd want to do everything you can to accomodate new players not try to put them off with such an attitude.

You'd share with them your years of experience to guide them along, right? When they didn't earn it themself? rolleyes:

 

[legendsguy]

now granted i "could" be wrong here, but how many accounts are really being bought and sold? i wouldn't buy an account, i don't care how long it takes me to dye my petticoat neon pink, i would rather get there on my own.

 

[MissEcho]

I believe any item that is 'useable' and has no equivalent that can be used in crafting or fighting should not even be a 'vet' reward. I have no problem with the deco items, ethies, cannons, statue makers etc remaining as they are as they have no impact on gameplay.

I started running a pretty large vendor mall in my first yr of playing, a rune library in my second yr and in my third year started doing major player run events. Items like the leather, runebook and statue dyetubs and not being able to use them was at best irritating, and often really made me angry. There is nothing worse than trying to do things and having to stop or halt mid way to run off and find someone the right 'age' to dye things for you. This was really aggravating in the rune library, which is difficult enough to set up without having to get a 4 yr vet in to dye things. Yes, I waited and yes, I had friends come and dye things, but it was nothing but a detriment to those like myself who are pretty full on players.

I see a lot of the arguments, and basically being a 'vet' is pretty flimsy in definition. You can open an account, pay it for a couple of years, and only have eg 400 hours game time. I had that amount of game time in my first month. So what is and isn't a 'vet', and where is a compromise. I am over 5 yrs now but I would hazard a guess that in actual 'game time' and 'playing' I would give many 10 yr vets a run for their money in actual 'time played'.

Also, as another said, you shouldn't need to 'hand over your stuff' to a third party to have it dyed. And while I tossed a dress or robe over my mismatched leather armors until I could use a tub or get someone to 'dye' for me, when it came to making up suits for sale on my shop, or my rune library organising etc it really was a negative to gameplay. It is a lot different getting something dyed occasionally, as opposed to what I needed which was every second day or so.

Charger of the fallen has allowed anyone an ethy.

I think the +3 on robes etc is only minimal and not really a game breaker, even tho all other things being equal, then the vet has the advantage. I do think that if a char under 1 yr can buy a bronze cloak, 1st yr vet reward, they should be able to wear it.

All other rewards are fine as they are.

Vet Rewards should only be items that are 'nicer' than a normal item, not give any kind of 'advantage' to gameplay be it fighting or crafting. For example: give the newbies the full range of dye tubs used in crafting, but let the 'vets' have a pet dye tub or ethy dye tub etc You get my drift.

 

[Heartseeker]

I agree with you MM.

But as you can see most of the stuck ups don't.

This is the main reason this game is done just like a lot of the players.

Get over yourselves you dip-sh!ts.

 

[Mord Mhor]

I like the current system of claiming the rewards at 1 year, 2 years, etc... but they should be useable by anyone.

Can you imagine starting UO today and having to wait 2 years to dye leather? It is an idea that has outlived it's time.

I disagree.

People who haven't the patience to wait and display a must have it now disposition will be off to the next shiny bauble (read new game) as soon as it presents itself.

Mord Mhor 8 years old and prepared to wait.

 

[Finch]

I like the current system of claiming the rewards at 1 year, 2 years, etc... but they should be useable by anyone.

Can you imagine starting UO today and having to wait 2 years to dye leather? It is an idea that has outlived it's time.

Sorry but I disagree. I remember waiting until my account was FINALLY old enough to get and use an ethy! It meant something, then they added the charger and anyone could have one. That didn't seem right to me.
And remember it is an mMorpg, the second M being MULITPLAYER, you could ask someone that has a dye tub to dye it for you. If you are on Chessy, give me a pm and I'll help you out.

 

[Castor]

would be a good gold sink if you could buy the ability to use items (just not pick them). You can exclude the ethies from the mix

 

[Luna du Selene]

You are being attacked by Wall of Text!
Wall of Text attacks you!
You are hit by special attack "No Grammar for Joo!" for 69375694 points!
You are dead.

Love it!

 

[Wenchkin]

I agree with you MM.

But as you can see most of the stuck ups don't.

This is the main reason this game is done just like a lot of the players.

Get over yourselves you dip-sh!ts.

Do any of you stop to think what you were like as a new player? How well would you choose your rewards if you'd only just started the game up? I'd suggest "not very well". I'd also say that the newbie player has a lot to learn when they start, they don't need rewards to pick on top of it. If you made the wrong choice on day 1, then had to wait a year to get more points to spend, you'd be a pretty grumpy bunny.

Players aren't disadvantaged because they can't use vet rewards. That's just silly. The first thing a new player would do is ask another player for dye services, and accept that they'd have to wait for other gifts - that's what many of us did while we were too young, or had accounts of different ages.

Can some of you "want it now" fans please stop long enough to think that not all players are like you? If I'd had everything handed to me I'd have felt overwhelmed at first, then simply become bored after a few months. It may sound like a great idea to keep giving things out, to not make a player work for things. But if a player can "do it all" in a matter of weeks or months, they'll simply get bored and quit. Then if they say "oh but other games have vet rewards" perhaps you can explain why UO is "special" and shouldn't work like that.

Soon we'll all be logging in to a localised test shard lol.

Wenchy

 

[Lord Drakelord]

I like the current system of claiming the rewards at 1 year, 2 years, etc... but they should be useable by anyone.

Can you imagine starting UO today and having to wait 2 years to dye leather? It is an idea that has outlived it's time.

I disagree, there is no need for a person to use any Vet reward till they old enough to get their own. However, I do agree that all Reward Vet tubs should be useable by anyone if the Security level is set to "anyone". So ying, yang on this coin toss.

 

[Lord Drakelord]

well man thats just dumb they shld have to eran it like we all had to u just posted no advantages and u are sayinf now u want peps to have one comon due the skill caps shald age every year up to where u can have every skill maked at 120 or 100 if you cant eat a scroll for it i think that would be cool this would make peps want to be a vet and not make so many new accts this way when u finally did quit your acct might be worth a poot they instead locked it at 720 which is junk man and true vets suffer becuase of noob peps complaining thet they dont have everything like someone else if u want it then earn it man or buy it this game has gone to soft if u ask me and needs a real think in the dv team to make peps want to play again if u make it so every one is same then why have vet rewards period you all need to think some before you post such dumb junk on this we all would love it to be equal but if it was what would you work for? this game is like life you want it you work for it you set goals and make it come true i started in moonglow grave yard training when this game came out to become a good player now i own loads i have a castle a keep two luna homes and i still have a few goals to work on this is why i still play is i make goals and i worked for everything i have sides my first set of amr hehe but it was platemail junk amr when there was no resit needed that made everyone equal if u ask me there were no super suit the best you could get was faction blessed amr i rember fighting nke with my axe and my horse heheh and it so owned it was the only way to pay was to run naked if the dvs woould get true thinker in their team the might have a better game and more peps wanting in it and staying in it

????? what you say?

 

[Flora Green]

I agree with you MM.

But as you can see most of the stuck ups don't.

This is the main reason this game is done just like a lot of the players.

Get over yourselves you dip-sh!ts.

Heh heh!
Reminds me of old people who are "entitled" to their SS discount.
Shouldn't they just be grateful they're here to claim that discount? Shouldn't you all be glad your game is still here after 10 years?

We don't earn these rewards. They are GIVEN to us just like holiday gifts.

And not one of you has come up with a logical reason why dye tubs should be used only by vets.

 

[Mythic]

118 months myself, I waited and waited and waited to be able to get my polar bear, and Ill be dammed if I see some newbie runnin around with one. This thread is pointless, stop whining suck it up and wait, just like everyone else did.