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(Player News) UWSP and New/Return/EJ players

Sparviero

Sage
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Howdy Siege ! I'm writing this message because i want all people will know about our new project :)
As you know in UWSP guild we like help player and already some months ago we started to work on a project to help new/returning/EJ players with a public houses where they can train their crafting skills, melee skills and many of other skills... So now that EJ is on, it's the time to let start this project.
I want be honest since begin: we are not trying to recruit all players... It's just an help for their first month here without a New Guild :)... At the end of the month they will be free to do what they want :)
So from today we'll recruit new/returning/EJ players adding to their char a title :
Date of their joining in guild.
They will be obliged to show the title and guild tag, so all people will know they are new/returning/EJ players and at the end of the month they will be free to join other guilds or stay with UWSP if they like that :) ...
I'm not asking to don't kill them... Just if you see a UWSP with that title, maybe try to be a little kind with them :D
I know it's a big risk and dangerous because with EJ we don't know who are those new players but i want give a chance to this project because i think, it will be a waste leave new players alone. If, with players with that date on title, you'll see them doing something wrong just warn me and i'll take action (but at least send me pics as proof about their bad acting). They will be not allowed to macro unattended, harass or insult people, killing or steal from other players.
I hope all will accept this project as a way to improve our game and comunity :)
 
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Tanager

Sage
Stratics Veteran
For now, EJ can't be friended to any house, and they don't have any bank storage. They also cannot use com deeds. So their options are a bit limited. They could craft in an NPC area (guard zone) until they run out of supplies and have to go farm/buy more. I'm sure most will do that. But at least in UWSP Town, there is faster access to vendors and dungeons (and healers) all over Sosaria via the marketplace teleports. Plus, we have lots of trees and a lovely mountain range not far away. The crafting stations are inside, so if they are paying attention (and not AFK) they will hear the doors open and have some warning. "Safe training'' tends to encourage scripting. And don't forget the severely under utilized casino to our south!

Either way, I think PKs looking for easy targets and the thieves that do not exist might have some interesting times ahead! :p
 
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GarthGrey

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I can't wait for the huge influx of crafters that we really don't need after-all. We have plenty of crafters, what we DONT have are enough community oriented crafters.
 

Tanivar

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I can't wait for the huge influx of crafters that we really don't need after-all. We have plenty of crafters, what we DONT have are enough community oriented crafters.
What's your idea of a community oriented Crafter?
 

Arradin

Lore Keeper
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I can't wait for the huge influx of crafters that we really don't need after-all. We have plenty of crafters, what we DONT have are enough community oriented crafters.
I have no idea what you mean. I have made several attempts over the past years to play more on Siege, but as a pure crafter i have Always felt that im not needed here.

So please do explain what would be needed in your opinion
 

GarthGrey

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Community crafters are people who log in and actually craft things for the community, which would be anyone currently logged in and chatting in GC (imo). We don't need more crafting vendors in far away places on the map, since the Devs felt the need to NOT give Siege the ability to travel to and from vendors, because OH NO, we might exploit it or use it for nefarious purposes. Because that doesn't happen here , does it ?
 

Max Blackoak

Babbling Loonie
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I feel ya Garth, but I have to say there are also some crafters that come close to what you're looking for. They don't exactly advertise their services in gc (which I believe they should) - maybe because they can only stand so much crafting at a time.
Whenever I had something more complicated like reforged stuff (think 100% elemental weapons or imbuable 150 luck items) I turned to Magichands and he usually delivered within a week at the very latest and on top of that he also has incredibly cheap prices. I could theoretically get all the BoDs and runics myself and go through all the rng-horror that is reforging but I'd rather pay someone good coin to do it because it is something I don't enjoy at all.

As long as you know exactly what you want it is not that hard to find a crafter to make it for you.

Arradin: I remember your shops. What you offered when you had the shop in Moonglow was basic crafted stuff like weapons. I'm not saying there is no market for those items but I don't think this is where the money is. If you had maxed out crafting skills and 120 imbuing you could offer custom orders and I bet you people would take you up on it. Make a calculation where you figure in the ressource cost, the extra cost because of failures (e.g. with imbuing) and don't forget to charge a bit extra for your time invested. People who want something specific usually are willing to pay good money for those items.

Of course you could also just try to supply cheap goods like armor with nothing else but lrc imbued on it but I doubt there is money in that market...especially since there are already enough people who cover that niche.
 

GarthGrey

Grand Poobah
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Perhaps some comments in this thread are just :stir: but I'm gonna address them anyway for the record.

UWSP is not allied with any guild. We strive to maintain a neutral stance, so that we can serve the entire community - not just certain portions of it. The town is a little out of the way, but all you need to do is use the Umbra or Brit hubs to get there.

We are indeed mostly a crafter guild, that does a fair amount of PvM to get the materials needed to craft. The services being offered to new/returning players in this thread however are not only being offered to crafters. We are trying to help all new players - including future thieves and PKs - as long as they behave within the rules for their month in the guild. If they can do that for a month, they might learn that joining our community is more beneficial to them than abusing it. Otherwise, they probably won't last the month and that is useful info for other guilds.

I joined forces with UWSP because I could not do NOOB on my own. This is a project that may or may not work out.
For the record, I wasn't referring to UWSP or its location in any of my comments.
 

Sparviero

Sage
Stratics Veteran
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I feel ya Garth, but I have to say there are also some crafters that come close to what you're looking for. They don't exactly advertise their services in gc (which I believe they should) - maybe because they can only stand so much crafting at a time.
Whenever I had something more complicated like reforged stuff (think 100% elemental weapons or imbuable 150 luck items) I turned to Magichands and he usually delivered within a week at the very latest and on top of that he also has incredibly cheap prices. I could theoretically get all the BoDs and runics myself and go through all the rng-horror that is reforging but I'd rather pay someone good coin to do it because it is something I don't enjoy at all.
Thank you Max :) ... Yes usually if i can, i like people with those things according to the free time i have between guild and other things :p

For the record, I wasn't referring to UWSP or its location in any of my comments.
Don't worry Garth... I understood what you meant... But the problem is that crafting, in most of case, is really boring and you have to like it really really much to do special request. And there is also the problem to collect resources (expecially high end) to craft what people need. So also if there are many crafters, most don't sell their services because that will mean spend their time just to do that. I hope our project will help the shard and help more people we can so, maybe ,with the increasing of population we'll have all roles we need :D
 
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SpyderBite

Lore Master
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Been working on a fresh EJ account since it went live and so far the only real obstacle is storage. Can't craft anything besides what I need because I'm weighted down with resources. So, I locked the two crafting skills I needed for training my other skills and only make ammunition as I need it (archery).

I'm very curious to see what UWSP puts together that will help new/returning EJ toons in regards to crafting and how its managed.
 

Sparviero

Sage
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Ehehe i think for storage we can't do much... EJ players can use beetle for storage to keep in guard zone... We'll provide a place where craft, gather resources and tools :p
 
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