UOgamecodes: $13 for 150m ship. Awesome.

[The Scandinavian]

Hi,

lucky me being a smith and not a pesky pirate sailing around with a smelly (fish)boat all day long.


Regards
The Scandinavian

 

[Kas Althume]

As Ra said, this wasn't a surprise.

What is surprising, is the pathetically low price tag. Mythic missed a big opportunity to bilk its customers out of around $50-$80.

Kinda shocking, IMHO.

And where did you get the idea that someone would buy it for that price? With a low price they will sell alot of these. EA dictates the price and not some morons who want to earn money on scripted gold ...

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

And where did you get the idea that someone would buy it for that price? With a low price they will sell alot of these. EA dictates the price and not some morons who want to earn money on scripted gold ...

You realize that "missed a big opportunity to bilk its customers out of around $50-$80" was sarcasm, right? "Bilk" should have kinda nailed it for you.

But... Please tell me you aren't this naive...

EA/Mythic should know just how much its faux currency is selling for. If they don't, they're fools.

Mythic set the in-game price at 150M or its equivalent in sea crap. Knowing the 'price' of gold, they could have set the real money price much higher.

They didn't, and now those who spent 150m are feeling cheated. 150m, gained legitimately, isn't something that most players have ever achieved. So, those who spent the 150m to buy the boat soon after it came out feel that their accomplishment has been trumped by anyone willing to pay $13 cash. (Even though they were told the boat would be purchasable)

(And no, I didn't spend 150m on the boat. However, the GLRPC community had raised 125m towards purchasing one in the last two weeks.)

 

[Aran]

I have about 4m gold. It's never been a big deal to me to be video-game-rich.

 

[Poo]

ya know what they should have done with these?

they should have upped the storage a bit and made them no decable.
then charged like $50 for them.

then those of us who play on other shards but dont have houses there could go park them out in the water somewhere and actually have a house boat.

now THAT would have been awsome.

i still like that they are for sale, and i purchased one (ok two!)

but that just just RP

 

[Cirno]

Mythic set the in-game price at 150M or its equivalent in sea crap. Knowing the 'price' of gold, they could have set the real money price much higher.

They didn't, and now those who spent 150m are feeling cheated. 150m, gained legitimately, isn't something that most players have ever achieved. So, those who spent the 150m to buy the boat soon after it came out feel that their accomplishment has been trumped by anyone willing to pay $13 cash. (Even though they were told the boat would be purchasable)

I agree.
I am not a particularly rich player, and getting together 150 million would have been a big achievement for me. If I had done that, and my eforts had been valued at $13 by Mythic, I would likely be significantly unhappy.

$13 dollars is less than a month's subscription.
Even without a personally comparable effort, it seems like quite a small price tag for something that originally appeared to be a symbol of status (only those with the wealth and intent would have one).
You almost need to invest more to be able to tame a dragon (advanced character token and/or time).
I'd probably have paid $30 for it, without too much hesitation (especially if it could be made recoverable if it decays)

 

[Poo]

no where on the ship or on the write up do i see anything saying that it is "account bound"

now the DYE tubs are account bound.
but the ship dosnt say that anywhere.

 

[kelmo]

I recently put together such a sum on Siege. I say I... it was a we thing. We put together a much larger sum on Atlantic. I say we, it was you.

150 milliion is a lot... $13 is an hour's wage in real life give or take...

I once had this discussion with my friend Sean... He told me for some UO is merely a game. For some it is a hobby. How much do golfers spend on their game or hobby? Just an example.

I have considered this most of the day. You can get the ship one of two ways. Up to you. The paint? Well, that just seems cool.

 

[Kael]

Why should gold sellers dictate EA pricing?

QFT

 

[anvira]

I am not a particularly rich player, and getting together 150 million would have been a big achievement for me. If I had done that, and my eforts had been valued at $13 by Mythic, I would likely be significantly unhappy.

The only way this ship was available in game was to:

1. Have a TON of money
2. Be willing to get thru a 'co-op' guild or group of friends
3. Spend a HUGE chunk of your UO time spent crabbing
4. Buy the gold (which I feel is counter-producitve to the game economy in so many ways)

I for one, am NOT a rich player. In fact, the three accounts that I AM fortunate enough to be able to pay for, I, like Thunderz has stated, I think I have maybe 10 Mil between all three.

No substantial way to generate that type of cash that would have been necessary to purchase in game (Thank you again for making this item for sale for real cash), as I do not PvP, hardly ever around for the big ticket event items to sell for cash (aside from the fact that I do not own a Luna house, so no real way to sell items consistently).

The issue with the ship costing the initial '150M' to purchase is the RL $$ value people are putting on the pixel $$.

Honestly, I think that the people that feel like they have been 'slighted' by the substantial decrease in cost of the ship, really should evaluate the situation.

I look at it like this.

You make a purchase of an item (be it a House, pixel items i.e. this ship, or anything else). We all know that the housing market to a huge hit, and now people are upset that their homes have been devalued. As with any purchase, there is always a gamble as to the valuation of a product as time goes on.

Bottom line : YOU STILL HAVE THE ITEM YOU PAID FOR

You just were unlucky enough to have paid more for it than the folks that waited to purchase or simply could not purchase without months of time invested or cash flow.

Even if I HAD been able to crab/scrape enough cash together in order to get this ship in-game, I wouldn't need to compare my achievement to that of anyone else. As at the end of the day, I know what I did in order to get there, and don't need to be recognized by anyone else as being uber special by owning an item in a game....

I cannot say Thank you enough for making this item for sale, as it will free up a lot of time in game/IRL to pursue other things!

Do I think that some things should not be available for sale?

YES, but this item, definately not, as it's not a game killer for us to all be able to have/use one.

 

[Ashlynn_L]

If anyone ever played a game called Kingdom of Loathing, they would know there was an item you could buy at one point called Mr Exploiter. From the moment this ship was announced, that is basically what it was. A Mr Exploiter ship. It has a bit more legitimacy now so feel good about that. =P

 

[JC the Builder]

I have to LoLOLOlOLOloLolOloL at that. Its EA game they can do with what they want.

Go hunt monsters and track the amount of time to loot 1 million gold. Then figure all the time you spent was worth 9 cents.

If you worked minumum wage 1 hour and earned $6, you could have purchased 60 million gold for what EA is apparently valuing it at.

Games are supposed to be about fun. MMOs are about time invested fun. It isn't fun when you learn the amount of time put in is worthless. This is why they should never have put items for sale in-game and in the store unless they fixed the economy.

 

[covert]

I figured it'd be priced around there. To charge more than High Seas for it would've spoke volumes about this all.

The paint they're selling is what should've been in High Seas, too. Decaying paint is just silly considering nothing else in the game loses it's hue like boats do. Special hues, whatever - permanent hues should'n't be a premium service though.

Mostly unrelated to the story - back to packing up the house!

 

[Nexus]

Games are supposed to be about fun. MMOs are about time invested fun.

That is strictly subjective to the individual, Just because you might gauge the fun in an MMO on time invested doesn't mean everyone else does. I know someone who spent a year doing nothing but small iron BoDs, that's all they did while logged in. They enjoyed doing Bulk Order Deeds, and at the end of a year they had about 50 million. They had fun, at least by their measure, but if you applied an economic value to it based on an item on the UO Game Codes store, they earned $4.50 for a years work.

Applying a value to an emotion such as pleasure, is plain silly, it debases and degrades the experience. It makes me wonder if so many of those that feel they are cheated or not having fun playing UO anymore have this to blame.. They applied an economic value to something intangible, and totally subjective.

 

[Viper09]

That is strictly subjective to the individual, Just because you might gauge the fun in an MMO on time invested doesn't mean everyone else does. I know someone who spent a year doing nothing but small iron BoDs, that's all they did while logged in. They enjoyed doing Bulk Order Deeds, and at the end of a year they had about 50 million. They had fun, at least by their measure, but if you applied an economic value to it based on an item on the UO Game Codes store, they earned $4.50 for a years work.

Applying a value to an emotion such as pleasure, is plain silly, it debases and degrades the experience. It makes me wonder if so many of those that feel they are cheated or not having fun playing UO anymore have this to blame.. They applied an economic value to something intangible, and totally subjective.

Very well put.

I for one am glad they have the boat for sale. 13$ is also a good price.

 

[popps]

I recently put together such a sum on Siege. I say I... it was a we thing. We put together a much larger sum on Atlantic. I say we, it was you.

150 milliion is a lot... $13 is an hour's wage in real life give or take...

I once had this discussion with my friend Sean... He told me for some UO is merely a game. For some it is a hobby. How much do golfers spend on their game or hobby? Just an example.

I have considered this most of the day. You can get the ship one of two ways. Up to you. The paint? Well, that just seems cool.

For quite sometime I questioned myself about which was the best way to go with this game.

I mean, it is a time sink as a lot of games like Ultima Online are.

This means, that getting most things in the game takes time and sometimes a LOT of time.

For example, the new Britannia ship.

If I wanted to earn it through game play, it would take me a very long time, even considering paying the 150 millions (the time needed for me to earn the 150 millions through regular game play).

So, clearly to me, paying money to get in game items would be the best "short-cut" to them. In the example of the Britannia ship, 13 bucks would get it for me.

And 13 bucks is about 1 hour work, perhaps even less than that depending on the work one does.

So, in terms of efficiency, I thought, I'd be way much better off "buying" my in game items with real money as it would drastically reduce the time I have to invest to get them.

So, in terms of efficiency earning them through normal game play does not sound to me as good an expenditure of time as buying them for the real money I earn through my work in real life.

But then I thought, this is just a game, a tool that I decided to use to relax, to evade from my real life. What would be the point of "buying" my progress into the game rather than earn it through just playing the game whenever I can ?

And so, I decided to just forget about buying anything game related even when this would have meant a more efficient use of my time.

 

[Viquire]

Go hunt monsters and track the amount of time to loot 1 million gold. Then figure all the time you spent was worth 9 cents.

If you worked minumum wage 1 hour and earned $6, you could have purchased 60 million gold for what EA is apparently valuing it at.

Games are supposed to be about fun. MMOs are about time invested fun. It isn't fun when you learn the amount of time put in is worthless. This is why they should never have put items for sale in-game and in the store unless they fixed the economy.

This argument is not completely without merit. It should be noted there is a lot of perceived value in being a leader, or an early attainer.

Soulstones, Chargers, and Shrouds of Shadows are all available through gamecodes, this period of exclusivity was just a lot shorter.

On the plus side, they will actually sell me another high Seas code for their troubles in addition to the boat(s).

 

[JC the Builder]

That is strictly subjective to the individual, Just because you might gauge the fun in an MMO on time invested doesn't mean everyone else does. I know someone who spent a year doing nothing but small iron BoDs, that's all they did while logged in. They enjoyed doing Bulk Order Deeds, and at the end of a year they had about 50 million. They had fun, at least by their measure, but if you applied an economic value to it based on an item on the UO Game Codes store, they earned $4.50 for a years work.

Bulk order deeds allow you to obtain game items which can not be gathered any other manner. The Britannian ship was first available for 150 million gold, now it is available for $13. Anyone who spent 150 million gold on the ship is obviously feeling the hurt now because they could purchase that same ship for 50 million gold from another player who pays the $13. It is lose/lose for all players to offer the ship so cheaply.

 

[wanderer1origin]

awh lol
maybe thinking i will buy five

 

[wanderer1origin]

poops
sit back rember this game is entertainment
not a grind, grind equals work, not entertainment!!
selling ship is like selling a booster uo, high gain nothing spent ea
makes gold whiners, scripters cry unfair we cant display our booty,not worthy any more
price of a movie and popcorn two can buy two!! most hardcore uo fans are not kids but there parents! this is a perfect item! aimed for the parents

 

[startle]

That is strictly subjective to the individual, Just because you might gauge the fun in an MMO on time invested doesn't mean everyone else does. I know someone who spent a year doing nothing but small iron BoDs, that's all they did while logged in. They enjoyed doing Bulk Order Deeds, and at the end of a year they had about 50 million. They had fun, at least by their measure, but if you applied an economic value to it based on an item on the UO Game Codes store, they earned $4.50 for a years work.

Applying a value to an emotion such as pleasure, is plain silly, it debases and degrades the experience. It makes me wonder if so many of those that feel they are cheated or not having fun playing UO anymore have this to blame.. They applied an economic value to something intangible, and totally subjective.

Very well put.

I for one am glad they have the boat for sale. 13$ is also a good price.

And I agree completely here.... And I just bought one of those big babys...

 

[Zosimus]

Go hunt monsters and track the amount of time to loot 1 million gold. Then figure all the time you spent was worth 9 cents.

If you worked minumum wage 1 hour and earned $6, you could have purchased 60 million gold for what EA is apparently valuing it at.

Games are supposed to be about fun. MMOs are about time invested fun. It isn't fun when you learn the amount of time put in is worthless. This is why they should never have put items for sale in-game and in the store unless they fixed the economy.

and.......?

Why should gold sellers be the ones that dictate what gold is worth? If it's a game and suppose to be fun as you say, then why do gold sellers use a game as a job to make money? They dont want to work a real 40 hour work week? EA owns the pixels and has the right to do with it as they want.

You forgot to quote about what the DEV's said about the gold in my post. They are going to increase the amount of gold on monsters so guess that million would be quicker to get when they add it to the game. For players to determine what pixels are worth in real $$$$$ is their own choice. If the game is about fun and EA offers these pixels cheaper then what the gold sellers are selling gold at then its a win for EA.

Adding more gold in the end will make it easier for players and possible new players to get rich quicker. The vets that are rich already will just get richer. Items will move up anyway. What is worth 50 mil today may be 100 mil tomorrow when the change is added.

Weird how players wanted resources to go back into UO and here is a postive way to get more resources into UO and some players will hate the idea. The UO game codes store are for players that want to spend real $$$ and at least it may go back into UO. At least its more affordable then paying a non EA site and the money does not go back to UO or any future development.

Why does it bother you so much JC? Did you ever think that gold sellers is what ruined the economy in the first place? Duped and scripted afk looters gold is prolly still being passed around as I type this.

 

[olduofan]

Just a warning to everyone before you buy the "Captain's Bundle" you can NOT place the wheel on the boat and the boat paint colors are horrific. also you can NOT trade the boat dye tubs. total waste of extra money.

 

[Cirno]

Why should gold sellers be the ones that dictate what gold is worth?

The price of gold is largely undefined by the sellers themselves.
The real-money value of gold is derived from its in-game value, and as such as the amount of gold in the game has increased, the value of it per million (or 100,000, as I remember it being) has decreased.
Even without gold sellers, gold is still perceived to have a value. If I were to buy a $5 item from the store, and put it on a vendor, the value people would pay in gold would related (and I would have effectively bought gold, making the UOGC store functionally a gold seller (or broker)).

This real money value for gold exists, and should be used as a metric for pricing.
Not to necessarily say that $13 is too cheap, but if I were to (assuming I could) buy a ship for real money and sell it for gold in game, in the long run it would probably sell at less than 30 million (during the first days, it may sell for more, but once the initial frenzy is over, the gold price will settle down in relation to the $ price).
Perhaps $13 is reasonable, but by reflection, that would make 150 million unreasonable.

 

[AesSedai]

... Perhaps $13 is reasonable, but by reflection, that would make 150 million unreasonable.

- I have not looked at the grey market prices in many months. Nor have I paid attention to the convoluted dispersion of gold exchange ingame, in many months. Yet, I completely agree with this assertion.

It makes me wonder: why? -This question alone causes me to draw many potential conclusions. Aye.

 

[Neutron Bomb]

I just want to say that my time is worth saving for $13. I would rather spend $13 than spend an insane amount of hours earning this ship.

My time is one of the reasons I quit WoW. Who wants to spend hours grinding? Or hours setting up a group to go to a dungeon? I don't like grinding for most of anything any more. I enjoy UO for several reasons, but time is valuable, and certainly worth more than $13 several people are whining about.

You don't want to spend real cash to play the game? That's fine. Your time 'could' be less valuable than mine? That's up to you. Or maybe you enjoy grinding all day long like the individual that Nexus talks about (Who of which I personally know, lol) and all that time is worth it to you. That's cool too.

But what's with all the people bashing gold sellers, gold buyers or EA selling stuff in general? This is a game. We don't really LIVE in Britannia, and no matter how much of a 'purist' you can be, you're still sitting in that same PC chair, using your CD drive as a coffee/beer holder, and still paying 15 friggin dollars a month to even exist in the game. HOW is buying gold or buying an item with real cash NOT within the realms of acceptance within a community of individuals that have probably spent over a THOUSAND DOLLARS to simply log into the game?

You don't have to buy the gold, but that choice is why you get pissed off at people who do. Because they can buy their rares, their suites, or their fiery dogs, and you cannot. They can go into battle always prepared to pay insurance without hesitation, or be geared to the max, and you might not. You might not be prepared to do any of these things because you had to spend time with your kids, or go back to school, or you're planning for a wedding, instead of spending 80 hours the next week mining for ore, or filling out Iron BODs.

I enjoy the game when I have what I need or want to play the game to my full experience. I still enjoy PvM and on the rare occasion PvP, but I enjoy it more when I'm not wearing a Heart of the Lion because I had to study for finals, and my last suit is being borrowed by the next broke guy who decided NOT to buy gold.

HIGH FIVE (lox cough)!

 

[Mapper]

no where on the ship or on the write up do i see anything saying that it is "account bound"

now the DYE tubs are account bound.
but the ship dosnt say that anywhere.

Have you already placed the ship and dry docked it? As my deed said no trade. It's the dry docked boat model that I can trade.

However I'm told although the boat model can be used on another account you can't do pirate quests as you don't 'own' the ship.

 

[Athelas]

Applying a value to an emotion such as pleasure, is plain silly, it debases and degrades the experience. It makes me wonder if so many of those that feel they are cheated or not having fun playing UO anymore have this to blame.. They applied an economic value to something intangible, and totally subjective.

Well said

 

[Rodan/Linu]

We, the VRN, got to 40.22% of the way there working to get this boat, just a month since the publish brought it in. I had been saving up my donations, and had I choosed to turn em in, we would have been 96.3% of the way there.

Now one of my guildies is gonna buy the boat on line so we can have our ship. And since it is transferrable, everyone can have access to it, even if one of us goes away. (Thank you Keen)

With the 4 million points we have at the library already, I think we will just get everyone who helped a special talisman, like the primer on arms.

Sincerely,
Rodan

 

[Woodsman]

I'd probably have paid $30 for it, without too much hesitation (especially if it could be made recoverable if it decays)

I had this conversation with somebody earlier today, but if you bought High Seas and the ship, you've paid $28 for it.

awh lol
maybe thinking i will buy five

And you're looking at $140, assuming you are talking about 5 boats on 5 accounts.

 

[Cirno]

I had this conversation with somebody earlier today, but if you bought High Seas and the ship, you've paid $28 for it.

I don't really consider the booster as connected to it, even though it is.
However, I have had my $15 of enjoyment from the booster.
The booster got me fishing, fishing got me doing MIBs, MIBs got me doing treasure maps, and so on. In many respects, the High Seas booster deepened my UO experience more than Stygian Abyss did.

 

[retrorider]

Be aware that when you go to buy the Captain's Bundle, at the bottom of the page it says:

Product Instructions

To claim your Item Token, simply follow these steps once you have received your code:

* Start up Ultima Online with the character you'd like to claim the token.
* Open your paperdoll (or character window) and click on the "Help" button.
* Click the "Promotional Code" button at the bottom of the Help window.
* Enter your Token Code EXACTLY as it appears when it was e-mailed to you.
* Your code will be verified and if valid, a Token will be placed in your inventory bag.
* These Tokens are transferable and can be traded or given to others.

This is INCORRECT! You do not get a Token or any Tokens.

Once you enter the code from the store you get a Britannian Ship Deed, a Pilot's Wheel Deed and NON-TRANSFERABLE DYE TUBS that just pop into your pack.

So don't plan on buying the Bundle and selling it as a token. We are being misinformed.

 

[Poo]

all i have to say about this boat is good luck getting it to the docktown!

i took mine out on sonoma which is a very low pop shard and i couldnt even get into the town.

id hate to imagine trying to get to docktown on atl or GL with one!

 

[retrorider]

all i have to say about this boat is good luck getting it to the docktown!

i took mine out on sonoma which is a very low pop shard and i couldnt even get into the town.

id hate to imagine trying to get to docktown on atl or GL with one!

Shouldn't be a big problem. Carry it as a deed in your pack, drop it in and color it, re-deed it and carry it back somewhere else.

All you have to do when it comes time to recolor it is empty the hold and rinse and repeat.

 

[Poo]

i think i gave the boat a proper name, no?

 

[Cirno]

i think i gave the boat a proper name, no?

(Needs more letters)

 

[jaashua]

And on that note, at least we have an in-game option as opposed to paying real life cash. I'd be a lot more mad if we had to pay RL cash only. But, as it stands, the ship should cost at least $19.99. I don't get why they are charging $13.

No kidding. Especially when Advanced Character tokens cost $30 and go for 18M gold in game.

 

[RaDian FlGith]

As Ra said, this wasn't a surprise.

What is surprising, is the pathetically low price tag. Mythic missed a big opportunity to bilk its customers out of around $50-$80.

Kinda shocking, IMHO.

Err... I think the idea is to, you know, actually sell them. At anything over where they're at now, they risk selling a painfully low amount of them. In fact, if you ask me, they're charging way too much for it and/or the Captain's Bundle.

And here's why:

High Seas was $14.99.

Now for $17.99 you can get a handful of silly things that help to supplement the expansion. Or for $12.95 you can get one single ship for about $2 less than you paid for an entire Booster Pack.

If you ask me, it's poor marketing. The ship should be $4.99 at the most, the dyes would make more sense at $1.99, the captain's wheel should be either $1.99 or a recipe for $4.99 that would allow them to be crafted in game.

Of course, the problem is that UO Game Codes is run by an outside company -- as if EA can't actually, you know, afford to handle that in-house. So of course you won't find stuff for $1.99 on it because there wouldn't be enough profit to share to make it worthwhile.

Thing is, if they had a decent catalog of $1.99 stuff, they'd be selling **** like hotcakes.

 

[sablestorm]

i think i gave the boat a proper name, no?

haha, Stratics really needs a thanks button like UOForums has, specifically for posts like this which give us a chuckle!

 

[Trebr Drab]

The steady decline of MMORPGs.

Things that should be earned in game play, sold outright for the money.

And instead of making games better to earn their money, they just put desirable things up for sale. To hell with the game, this is just too easy.

And unless I missed something, mine is the first post of this nature. No wonder that MMORPGs are going downhill.

I expect to never hear again, from any of you, that UO needs better art or bugs fixed. You are willing to buy buy buy to show support. What do you think, they won't take this easy way out just like you do?

 

[Tinsil]

The price of gold is largely undefined by the sellers themselves.
The real-money value of gold is derived from its in-game value, and as such as the amount of gold in the game has increased, the value of it per million (or 100,000, as I remember it being) has decreased.
Even without gold sellers, gold is still perceived to have a value. If I were to buy a $5 item from the store, and put it on a vendor, the value people would pay in gold would related (and I would have effectively bought gold, making the UOGC store functionally a gold seller (or broker)).

This real money value for gold exists, and should be used as a metric for pricing.
Not to necessarily say that $13 is too cheap, but if I were to (assuming I could) buy a ship for real money and sell it for gold in game, in the long run it would probably sell at less than 30 million (during the first days, it may sell for more, but once the initial frenzy is over, the gold price will settle down in relation to the $ price).
Perhaps $13 is reasonable, but by reflection, that would make 150 million unreasonable.

This

The steady decline of MMORPGs.

Things that should be earned in game play, sold outright for the money.

And instead of making games better to earn their money, they just put desirable things up for sale. To hell with the game, this is just too easy.

And unless I missed something, mine is the first post of this nature. No wonder that MMORPGs are going downhill.

I expect to never hear again, from any of you, that UO needs better art or bugs fixed. You are willing to buy buy buy to show support. What do you think, they won't take this easy way out just like you do?

And this.

 

[Demonous]

Just like someone said yesterday, us rich people "assume" everyone has 100mill or more.

The reality is 70% of people actually have less than 10mill

Were just blinkered to our own wealth

EDIT*** Im not proud to admit it but the amount of people on these forums who ICQ me to sell them 100mill for $25 proves the extent of the demand that there is.

Thunderz

see that just baffles me how thats even possible, how can you only have 10 million gold when the game has been around for over 13 years.... i mean honestly realllllllllllly honestly how is it possible? i can blink and 10 mil appears in my bank.... ok let me give some scenarios... do a champ spawn, get a 120 mage BAM 15+ mil, do an em event, at the end there is often a clicker... BAM 10-100 mil, those 2 things alone right there can make you rich.... u can probably get a bunch of gold for a complete suit from the black golems too, theres so many ways to make easy gold, seriously do that people that have 10 mil and under just farm monsters all day for gold or something? i haven't looted gold off of a corpse in i dunno how many years, UO basically throws tons of gold at people with opportunities, all you have to do is take advantage

 

[Tinsil]

I don't think 70% with less than 10m is even close to right.. I see nothing but people in nice suits riding chargers, etc. Maybe 10-15%.

 

[Demonous]

You realize that "missed a big opportunity to bilk its customers out of around $50-$80" was sarcasm, right? "Bilk" should have kinda nailed it for you.

But... Please tell me you aren't this naive...

EA/Mythic should know just how much its faux currency is selling for. If they don't, they're fools.

Mythic set the in-game price at 150M or its equivalent in sea crap. Knowing the 'price' of gold, they could have set the real money price much higher.

They didn't, and now those who spent 150m are feeling cheated. 150m, gained legitimately, isn't something that most players have ever achieved. So, those who spent the 150m to buy the boat soon after it came out feel that their accomplishment has been trumped by anyone willing to pay $13 cash. (Even though they were told the boat would be purchasable)

(And no, I didn't spend 150m on the boat. However, the GLRPC community had raised 125m towards purchasing one in the last two weeks.)

See i spent 150 mil day 1 for the ship and was happy, now you can purchase it for $13, which annoyed me but not too much because u either spend real money to get it or you spend 150 mil gold, however for some strange reason, as if they didn't screw over the people enough that paid 150 mil, all the ships purchased for cash and now even through the library are not account bound, 1 of them sold at an in game auction on my shard for 15 mil today, what kind of crap is that i feel totally ripped off now, not only did i pay a ton more than i should have but my ship IS account bound so even if i wanted to resell it i couldn't, i guess for a while if u bought one it was account bound but now its not? of course the devs don't care they screwed a bunch of people over

 

[UOKaiser]

You realize that "missed a big opportunity to bilk its customers out of around $50-$80" was sarcasm, right? "Bilk" should have kinda nailed it for you.

But... Please tell me you aren't this naive...

EA/Mythic should know just how much its faux currency is selling for. If they don't, they're fools.

Mythic set the in-game price at 150M or its equivalent in sea crap. Knowing the 'price' of gold, they could have set the real money price much higher.

They didn't, and now those who spent 150m are feeling cheated. 150m, gained legitimately, isn't something that most players have ever achieved. So, those who spent the 150m to buy the boat soon after it came out feel that their accomplishment has been trumped by anyone willing to pay $13 cash. (Even though they were told the boat would be purchasable)

(And no, I didn't spend 150m on the boat. However, the GLRPC community had raised 125m towards purchasing one in the last two weeks.)

They wouldn't be able to place the real cash value any higher after putting it at 150mil ingame for most of the shards. They place a .86 cent per million value at that price. While current gold prices hover between the .25cent to 50 cent area player to player. While seige should be 10x production value gold. So the only place they could of raise the cash value for the ships is in siege so only for that type of shard they could of raised value to $50-$113 or so for that economy or make the ships 15mil in siege to keep up with currency. But as most in siege are vets like me am sure 150 mil is still not too much trouble to get over there.

 

[the 4th man]

You know, if you paid real life money, for computer game pixels, that quite honestly, you don't even own, you deserve it.

I can't believe, rational adults actually buy into this, or buy from EA......P.T. Barnum once said, there's a sucker born every minute.

If UO went belly up tomorrow, how many people on here would flip out because of the American Dollars they lost??

 

[hawkeye_pike]

I never understood why people pay extra money for in-game items that do not improve the gaming experience in any way. Whether it be for gold, a giant ship or a lady bug.

 

[Cirno]

I never understood why people pay extra money for in-game items that do not improve the gaming experience in any way. Whether it be for gold, a giant ship or a lady bug.

It really depends on how you look at it.
If I really really really wanted the huge ship, then getting it would improve my game experience, as it would be acquiring a desired item.
Now that we have established that the acquisition would bring some benefit, it is simply a matter of method. Spending $13 is, by far, the path of least resistance, for me at least. I could scrape together 150 million (maybe), but it would require a lot of selling of things I might value for reasons other than gold value, or otherwise engaging in excessive not-fun activities.

People find reward in different ways, however.
I would much rather close an account for a month, to cover the cost of the Britannian Ship, and have money left over for a trip to the chip shop, than I would go through the grind in-game.
The comparative in-game and real-money alternatives are not really comparable, if the end goal is what you desire.

 

[Bob_the_fart_guy]

You know, if you paid real life money, for computer game pixels, that quite honestly, you don't even own, you deserve it.

I can't believe, rational adults actually buy into this, or buy from EA......P.T. Barnum once said, there's a sucker born every minute.

If UO went belly up tomorrow, how many people on here would flip out because of the American Dollars they lost??

Well... eventually one day. UO will "shut down" it is inevitable. I'm not saying it will be any time soon, but eventually it will happen. There was a game designed or inspired by Richard Garriot that eventually shut it's doors um I think more sci-fi inspired. But, yeah, a lot of people will flip out I'm sure. In my mind it is about the same effect as a long running sit-com coming to an end and everyone that is a fan flipping out.

I won't be happy either, but it is always in the back of my mind. For now, I'm enjoying it though.

 

[Smoot]

Meh, they should have just sold the thing for 40 bucks. Alot of people would still buy it (still cheaper if you convert gold value to rlm). EA would probably make a lager profit too. Cause the people who are gonna just buy, are gunna just buy it. 15 buck? 40 bucks? Its the difference between one movie or 3, or a few drinks at a bar vrs a full night.

Its kinda the same thing as getting the high seas expansion just to use the items.