[UO Herald] Test Center Update - Publish 68.3

[watchertoo]

Test Center Update - Publish 68.3
James Nichols
22 Oct 2010 15:39:04 ESTGreetings!

The following changes will be available on Test Center 1 for you to check out this weekend. Please note that TC1 will be brought offline at 4:00PM EDT for the update, thank you.

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[Babble]

Yay!

 

[puni666]

Snooze..

 

[Gunga_Din]

Thats it? u gotta be kiddin me. lol

 

[longshanks]

i didnt mind scuttling ships in tram. it took care of all the traffic outside the sea market

 

[Xalan Dementia]

Thats it? u gotta be kiddin me. lol

its a mini publish 68.3 not a full one

 

[Cal_Mythic]

The notes are incomplete. Will be refreshing soon.

-c

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

*goes to UO Herald to keep hitting refresh in hopes of seeing added Halloween content*

 

[MalagAste]

The notes are incomplete. Will be refreshing soon.

-c

Soon?

 

[Crysta]

Well obviously the anniversary rewards, haloween stuff, and next set of events are probably in this too and just not officially pushed out to everyone yet.. y'know, internal testing on an external shard to make sure the server doesn't blow up or anything.

 

[seapup]

How can u mine from a boat?

 

[Mesanna]

Here is a complete set up notes for TC1 only-

Publish 68.3


Saltpeter is now a mineable resource

• Can be mined in dungeons and on a boat
• Players will occasionally uncover niter deposits when mining for ore
• Frequency of discovery and size of deposits depends on mining skill and luck
• Mine the niter deposit to obtain saltpeter
• Niter deposits will decay over time if not mined

New Rare Crab and Lobster Trophy’s

• Enchanted and Legendary Crabs and Lobsters can now be turned into trophy’s via the Taxidermy Kit.

Bug Fixes

• Made a channel in the sea market so boats can get in and out a little easier. This will be marked by bouys.
• Fixed an issue with not being able to access cargo holds while the boat is moving
• You will no longer be able to cast field spells on stairs
• Players will no longer be able to scuttle a ship in Trammel
• If you are a ghost on a scuttled ship you can now debark your ship to your last valid terrain location by using the mooring lines.
• Cannon ammunitition will no longer lose its price or reset the price of a container on server maintenance on your vendor.
• Players now have a 100% chance to get sand when mining for this resource.Purchasing items while from vendors using funds in a player's bank will now be taken from check form if gold coins are not present in a players bank.
• .Pirate boats will no longer continue to fire their cannons after the captain and crew are dead
• Players will no longer be able to kill captured Pirates
• All fishing will now act like every other resource gathering in the game. If an area is fished out you will get a message stating so.
• Swing speed for Throwing weapons has been corrected you will now be able to reach 1.25s.

· Saltpeter is now traded as a commodity, with unlimited availability but subject to price adjustment

· Shopkeepers will now buy back commodities at 75% of their asking price, instead of never offering more than the base price

· Commodity deeds may now be filled from a boat hold

· Commodity deeds may be redeemed in a boat hold, if the contents of the deed will fit in the hold


Note


These are just the few notes for Test Center, next week with the Origin notes we will be adding Anniversary Items, Halloween Quest, Next step in the live Arc, and MIB’s.

 

[DanteSignas]

Yay for next week....

 

[Assia Penryn]

 

[Babble]

hmm, not even a soon... but a time frame

 

[Tjalle]

[*] Players now have a 100% chance to get sand when mining for this resource.Purchasing items while from vendors using funds in a player's bank will now be taken from check form if gold coins are not present in a players bank.

:bowdown:

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

These are much better publish notes then the ones on the Herald!

Players will no longer be able to scuttle a ship in Trammel

You may want to add one or two crucial words here for clarity... It should be:

Players will no longer be able to scuttle a(nother) player ship in Trammel

 

[MalagAste]

[*] Players now have a 100% chance to get sand when mining for this resource.Purchasing items while from vendors using funds in a player's bank will now be taken from check form if gold coins are not present in a players bank.

:bowdown:

Seconded! :bowdown::bowdown:

 

[Drowy]

Nothing about the still bugged fishing quests?

 

[Skrag]

If taking out pirates paid more than 3 minutes of farming, I might actually bother. Come on Cal, at least tell me "No way dude 10k is a lot!" so I'll know you guys are out to lunch and can quit complaining in hopes of it being fixed.

 

[WildStar]

Originally Posted by Mesanna
[*] Players now have a 100% chance to get sand when mining for this resource.Purchasing items while from vendors using funds in a player's bank will now be taken from check form if gold coins are not present in a players bank.

Seconded! :bowdown::bowdown:

Thirded! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

WildStar

 

[puni666]

Where's the mystic "tweak"?

Thanks for the throwing thing.. that's one thing for pvpers out of all this yay!

 

[Norrar]

With being unable to scuttle ships in Tram, how will we RP'ers be able to have sea battles?

Will Guild Wars override this?

 

[Obsidian]

I wonder how they implemented the throwing change. Did they change the base speed for throwing weapons or did they somehow get rid of the 0.5s return timer?

Speaking of gargs and throwing, did the devs fix the HLD bug for gargoyle altered Mace and Shield Glasses?

-OBSIDIAN-

 

[Gowron]

Players will no longer be able to scuttle a ship in Trammel

With being unable to scuttle ships in Tram, how will we RP'ers be able to have sea battles?

Will Guild Wars override this?

I am with Norrar on this one. I am against this addition. While some folks will grief, it is cost prohibitive to make this a rampant problem. However, if this modification is truly deemed necessary by the Developers, then at least allow for warring guilds in tram to scuttle each other's ships.

 

[G.v.P]

With being unable to scuttle ships in Tram, how will we RP'ers be able to have sea battles?

Will Guild Wars override this?

I am with Norrar on this one. I am against this addition. While some folks will grief, it is cost prohibitive to make this a rampant problem. However, if this modification is truly deemed necessary by the Developers, then at least allow for warring guilds in tram to scuttle each other's ships.

Go to Fel? lol no one is there ... you could have some great battles.


I think it's interesting they went with that guy's channel idea to cater to Atlantic. I found no problem on Ches after the 20 min parking lot was instilled. Guess I will have to check out this channel stuff.

 

[sirion]

I hate the game design that you will need to mine/chop to get the resource. It only encourages scripting, and we will just have to buy off their vendors to get enough supply.

Please just let NPC have instant re-stock of 999, like they do with some NPCs. Problem solved. And if someone is STILL thinking about "UO economy": no, it doesn't exist. It doesn't need to exist.

 

[hawkeye_pike]

Good changes!

But guys, did you read any of the long-winded discussions about

1. Cannons and ship-to-ship combat being too resource intensive and complicated

2. Fishing powerscrolls being too rare and the quests being too tedious (especially concerning the relation between work and reward)

?

All fishing will now act like every other resource gathering in the game. If an area is fished out you will get a message stating so.

==> This will kill crab fishing altogether.

Players will no longer be able to scuttle a ship in Trammel

I hope scuttling ships in Trammel still will be possible with the appropriate guild highlighting (green or orange)???

 

[Fat Midnight]

Good changes!

But guys, did you read any of the long-winded discussions about

1. Cannons and ship-to-ship combat being too resource intensive and complicated

Agreed, %100. I would like to see the firing procedure changed. Such as having an NPC(think tillerman) for each cannon.The NPCs would do procedure themselves. Clicking on the NPC would give the following options:

1. Clean and Load Cannon Ball
2. Clean and Load Grapeshot
3. FIRE!

Each NPC could start off as newbies and through use gain skill and speed. You have to give them the resources they would need to use there assigned cannons. They also charge 60GP per real word day.

To reduce resources required I propose the following:
Cannon Tools, a multipurpose, multiuse(100 charges per, craftable via tinkering/Alchemist) tool that replaces swab, fuse, match, and charges

Ingredients
50 boards
50 cloth (or 1 bolt of cloth)
50 blackpowder

Blackpowder.
10 Sulfurous Ash, 10 boards, and 1 saltpeter make 50 blackpowder.

Saltpeter should be easily mined, only requiring 50 skill.

 

[G.v.P]

But guys, did you read any of the long-winded discussions about

1. Cannons and ship-to-ship combat being too resource intensive and complicated

Hopefully the devs are not going to change anything regarding cannons, mainly because there is no reason to make anything easier. If it takes you more than 20 shots to scuttle another ship then you're doing it wrong. Likewise, if it's hard to collect 1,500 boards and 1,500 cloth for repairs, well, that's pretty sad. 150 swings from an axe is no problem if you use a use last object / last target macro, and you can just buy cloth from an npc. Like I said in your thread, your thread is not based on facts, it's based on your first time experience playing new content. You have some vocal idiots in there like Skrag, who hadn't even played the content, but not enough to go on really. You should have done five or ten pirates then averaged out the costs. That would be worthy of a "FACTS" tag to your thread.

I hope scuttling ships in Trammel still will be possible with the appropriate guild highlighting (green or orange)???

Why are people scared to go to Fel? The funny thing with Trammel scuttling is that my friend parked his ship in Fel near emporium and no one has ever touched him. Meanwhile, some of my ships have been fired on near Tram's emporium, haha. Just get all your RP buddies to Fel, no one ever goes there.

 

[Vaelix]

Why not sell all types of ingots, wood, gems, imbueing ingredients on regular vendors for 5gp each? Believe it or not some people make there fortunes gathering resources for the people who are too lazy to do so. This reward for no work mentality will be the downfall of our society.

Because pushing play on a Resource Macro constitutes as "Work" these days....

 

[Fat Midnight]

Because pushing play on a Resource Macro constitutes as "Work" these days....

I happen to mine "manually" several hours a week, as do several other people I see on my shard. Back in the T2A days I mined for what seemed like an eternity to pay for my first house. Maybe we need a statue that drops resources every time you click it, that sounds more like your style.

 

[Skrag]

Someone linked a youtube video of cannon-firing "action" on a general MMO forum I frequent. The reaction was disbelief, laughter, and scorn.

The whole thing with clicking four different buttons and targeting a bunch of inventory crap just to prepare a gun to fire is incredibly bad design from the ground up.

 

[Pinco]

Saltpeter is now traded as a commodity, with unlimited availability but subject to price adjustment

the commodity thing should be great if will works for everything like bottles, reagents, scrolls, etc...

 

[ress me plz]

Here is a complete set up notes for TC1 only-

Publish 68.3


Saltpeter is now a mineable resource

• Can be mined in dungeons and on a boat
• Players will occasionally uncover niter deposits when mining for ore
• Frequency of discovery and size of deposits depends on mining skill and luck
• Mine the niter deposit to obtain saltpeter
• Niter deposits will decay over time if not mined

New Rare Crab and Lobster Trophy’s

• Enchanted and Legendary Crabs and Lobsters can now be turned into trophy’s via the Taxidermy Kit.

Bug Fixes

• Made a channel in the sea market so boats can get in and out a little easier. This will be marked by bouys.
• Fixed an issue with not being able to access cargo holds while the boat is moving
• You will no longer be able to cast field spells on stairs
• Players will no longer be able to scuttle a ship in Trammel
• If you are a ghost on a scuttled ship you can now debark your ship to your last valid terrain location by using the mooring lines.
• Cannon ammunitition will no longer lose its price or reset the price of a container on server maintenance on your vendor.
• Players now have a 100% chance to get sand when mining for this resource.Purchasing items while from vendors using funds in a player's bank will now be taken from check form if gold coins are not present in a players bank.
• .Pirate boats will no longer continue to fire their cannons after the captain and crew are dead
• Players will no longer be able to kill captured Pirates
• All fishing will now act like every other resource gathering in the game. If an area is fished out you will get a message stating so.
• Swing speed for Throwing weapons has been corrected you will now be able to reach 1.25s.

· Saltpeter is now traded as a commodity, with unlimited availability but subject to price adjustment

· Shopkeepers will now buy back commodities at 75% of their asking price, instead of never offering more than the base price

· Commodity deeds may now be filled from a boat hold

· Commodity deeds may be redeemed in a boat hold, if the contents of the deed will fit in the hold


Note


These are just the few notes for Test Center, next week with the Origin notes we will be adding Anniversary Items, Halloween Quest, Next step in the live Arc, and MIB’s.

GG!

 

[Petra Fyde]

A note about boat mining:
When digging with a gargoyle pickaxe ore eles used to de-spawn if you were mining from a boat.
They don't do that anymore. Be prepared to fight in close quarters if you chose to mine in this way.

 

[hawkeye_pike]

Hopefully the devs are not going to change anything regarding cannons, mainly because there is no reason to make anything easier. [...] Like I said in your thread, your thread is not based on facts, it's based on your first time experience playing new content. You have some vocal idiots in there like Skrag, who hadn't even played the content, but not enough to go on really. You should have done five or ten pirates then averaged out the costs. That would be worthy of a "FACTS" tag to your thread.

Actually, my thread is based on facts, and I only list facts. I did finish one pirate quest. I don't want things to be easy, I just want them to be less annoying. I could live with the boards, but the crafting of ammunition is an outright molestation. It has nothing to do with skill and experience, it is just a tedious waste of time.

Why are people scared to go to Fel? The funny thing with Trammel scuttling is that my friend parked his ship in Fel near emporium and no one has ever touched him. Meanwhile, some of my ships have been fired on near Tram's emporium, haha. Just get all your RP buddies to Fel, no one ever goes there.

Why should I have to go to Felucca in order to make sea battles? It doesn't make sense since we can do all PvP we want in Trammel. It shouldn't be too hard to allow sea battles according to guild highlighting in Trammel.

 

[Aurelius]

Why are people scared to go to Fel? The funny thing with Trammel scuttling is that my friend parked his ship in Fel near emporium and no one has ever touched him. Meanwhile, some of my ships have been fired on near Tram's emporium, haha. Just get all your RP buddies to Fel, no one ever goes there.

Sadly, what we've tended to see is many 'brave and heroic' PvPers bringing their blue characters to the seas on Trammel, attacking solo sailors or anchored boats, and then filling chat with bragging about how great they are and how 'Trammies suck'...

It just needs to be consistent - if you agree with open PvP at all times, play Fel. If you want selective PvP, play Trammel and be in warring guilds. If you don't want involvement in PvP anywhere, play Trammel and don't be in a warring guild. Simple, easily understandable, and something there for every one - except, of course, those who only fancy taking on easy targets (ideally those who are not there to fight back) and bragging how that shows they are 'elite'.

 

[Skrag]

Skrag

When someone points out that the entire system is a giant economic disaster where a single powder charge costs more than the reward for taking down a pirate? Well screw you Skrag! Have you begged anyone in chat to make you materials for cheap? Have you grinded up a crafting mule to make it all yourself?

You still won't make as much money as a newbie killing ettins even if the materials are totally free, but you need to bend over backwards twice before you dare suggest that whatever pile of crap design we're dealing with isn't a gift from god!

 

[Tjalle]

The whole thing with clicking four different buttons and targeting a bunch of inventory crap just to prepare a gun to fire is incredibly bad design from the ground up.

I like it the way it works now...

 

[MalagAste]

Good changes!

But guys, did you read any of the long-winded discussions about

1. Cannons and ship-to-ship combat being too resource intensive and complicated

2. Fishing powerscrolls being too rare and the quests being too tedious (especially concerning the relation between work and reward)

?

All fishing will now act like every other resource gathering in the game. If an area is fished out you will get a message stating so.

==> This will kill crab fishing altogether.

Players will no longer be able to scuttle a ship in Trammel

I hope scuttling ships in Trammel still will be possible with the appropriate guild highlighting (green or orange)???

I agree 100% this will KILL Crab Fishing which stinks altogether right now because you lose 40% of the time anyway, not to mention 65% of the time you get plain crabs and/or lobsters. So having to pick up and move to a new spot every few uses will make this already overly tedious chore even more distasteful.

As well I do hope you don't mean to stop us from having RP PvP ship to ship battles in Tram. I for one was happy that we as guild and alliance mates CAN fire on one another as well as our enemies.

And I don't care about the loading and firing of cannons that does NOT bother me it's fine the way it is...

What does bother me is that for a cook I can take one pile of wood and turn it to charcoal in 1 click...

To turn anything into a pile of something in Smithing or anything else takes TOO LONG and FAR too many clicks... If I say make MAX it should BAM pound out with one swing the MAX number of a STACKED item. You know making shot I have to manually stack each and every one of the stupid balls and shot????? What's up with that?

And I thought we were steering clear of NEON and bright stuff. So why is it that many of the ship paints are either too faint to really see or TOO BRIGHT.

I want DARK deep colors... Dark Navy Blue, Dark Crimson Red, Deep Woodsy Green a Nice Hunter Green... And Dark Brown.... I do not want Mustard Baby Poo Yellow, Bright Cherry Red, Baby Boy Blue, and that hideously nauseating Poison Green. And if you gave us all these BRIGHT colors Why didn't you give us a White? If Gray can scale all the way to black why can't Red, Green and Blue go to the Blacker scale with more coats?????

Not to be picky or demanding but I don't want to sail about the seas in a carnival boat...

 

[Spogfrawn]

COLOR=black]Saltpeter is now traded as a commodity, with unlimited availability but subject to price adjustment[/COLOR]
[/FQUOTE]

So let me get this straight. You're going to make saltpeter prices skyrocket like they did on the beta test?

I think this is the last straw, frankly.

I am not one of the players who spend 24/7 playing UO. And you're pricing the whole new Booster out of my reach.

If you think I am going to bother with this rubbish you are sorely mistaken. I hope your hard core or loony fans enjoy clicking their mouse for the next 8 years just to mine 4 saltpeter. I expect more for my £9.99 a month!

What a crock!

 

[Umfufu]

I like to see also adressed:

Target Relative in CC
Map working for CC
Sticky completed quests fixed
"Rare" Books as reward 100 fish quests, how many "Rare" Books do we need
When stoning Fishing one looses rep
Rep shown somewhere for the players

Thanks.

 

[G.v.P]

Have you begged anyone in chat to make you materials for cheap? Have you grinded up a crafting mule to make it all yourself?

Ive made crafters on Ches, Catskills, and Origin, and maybe I'll make one on Atlantic as well. If I had a crafter there right now I'd help ya out, just the fact that you complained about content you hadn't even tested which bugged me, trying to give people advice about how pirate battles should go without even doing one. Then Pike just did one, which also pissed me off because he didn't even TRY to get better at doing them, instead he just posted here for the Devs to make pirates easier for him.

But yeah, I've grinded everything in this game, and I've asked for help. Rely on myself cross shards sometimes more than others though, ha. As I moved shards in the past with my PvP guild I recreated everything I had from scratch each time. Fun to be able to play each part of the game, imo: PvP, PvM, crafting. I'll look into templates for Atlantic.

All I can say though is my guild/ally on Ches have no problem with the booster, except one time all the Ships were invul for some reason. We got the first Orc Ship on Ches and got every one of our guys a ship after that. I have heard that the Atlantic community is sorta crappy, so I guess that could just be it ... I have no clue, I've never really entertained Atlantic, but I know the Origin community is pretty cool. Just sad to think Atlantic wouldn't sell supplies, except that cannon ball bug -- but anyone can make cannon balls. Usually think of Oceania or Origin as the shards that never sell anything, while Atlantic is supposed to be the biggest shard in game.

 

[G.v.P]

Actually, my thread is based on facts, and I only list facts. I did finish one pirate quest. I don't want things to be easy, I just want them to be less annoying. I could live with the boards, but the crafting of ammunition is an outright molestation. It has nothing to do with skill and experience, it is just a tedious waste of time.

Right ... so if a doctor gives you a pill and says he tested it one time and the patient got better ... you'd take that pill, right? When a person has the audacity to put the word "FACTS" in a thread title the person should at least have some sort of a statistical average to look at, not just a first impression.

No one in my guild/ally finds any part of pirate quests difficult ... we've done over 50, easy. Five steps to load then fire aren't really hard for anyone to follow. As I said in the other thread, I even solo'd one, and after less than 20 shots w/ a Garg ship I sailed away moderately damaged to seek my reward. I'm forever puzzled by anyone who has difficulty with these quests.

 

[Cailleach]

I have to say I do wish they'd leave the damn saltpeter alone. Really. It's just starting to settle down to a nice bubble on Europa and, for the first time since the expansion, folks have enough.


The pirate quests are a blast. We've been taking various folks out, in party, and we've been getting rewards, the cannonballs and deeds. Been good fun, just a nice level for a group outing.

 

[Old Man of UO]

How about a few more people quoting Mesanna's entire message to make a single point? I mean, if you are in the thread, we've already read her message.

 

[Skrag]

I'm forever puzzled by anyone who has difficulty with these quests.

No one has complained that they're too difficult, you ever so brilliant little scamp. How do you type this stuff with a straight face?

I'm really, really, really tired of rocket scientists who can't tell the difference between "This is hard!" and "You made a ******** interface that takes eight clicks to do one thing!"

I'm just glad it only takes one input to cast a spell. If it took 50 you'd probably be sticking up for that too.

 

[puni666]

My head hurts from it hitting the computer table so much lately. It only happens when I fish.. I fall a sleep and my head slips of the hand that keeps it propped up from boredom. Please patch this in Publish 68.4.

 

[Babble]

Why are you fishing then?