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olduofan
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i like how on top of it the devs are these days when it comes to exploits and bugs..
i hope they will find the time to balance the game better as well so all char/toons styles can enjoy the game equally and no longer have just 2 play styles ruling the game
i hope they will find the time to balance the game better as well so all char/toons styles can enjoy the game equally and no longer have just 2 play styles ruling the game
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katherinepgoh
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With how insanely difficult it is to get an ecru citrine with just the 50% EP, or with 50% EP + the mods you already want, why is this an issue? I don't see this doing anything but hurting an already reeling crafter/imbuer community after all these relic fragment debacles.
Well, I will say
Having got my imbuer to 91 something on the cheap by going slow and using loot/unraveling and it being a tedious menu and all, that I am glad I did not spend a couple of mil real quick only to lose the best of the fruits of my labor due to oversights.
There has to be some balance put in place here. Really good items should be available through the crafting system and having the menu ignore some properties to make training more difficult is a largish part of this problem. In this case something came back to bite us on the butt. At least I think that is what happened. I don't like training skills where the rules keep changing.
With that said there was a complete balance pass that was supposed to occur after release. I hope that will happen. Maybe gargoyles and the skills that came with them will become a bit more desirable.
Having got my imbuer to 91 something on the cheap by going slow and using loot/unraveling and it being a tedious menu and all, that I am glad I did not spend a couple of mil real quick only to lose the best of the fruits of my labor due to oversights.
There has to be some balance put in place here. Really good items should be available through the crafting system and having the menu ignore some properties to make training more difficult is a largish part of this problem. In this case something came back to bite us on the butt. At least I think that is what happened. I don't like training skills where the rules keep changing.
With that said there was a complete balance pass that was supposed to occur after release. I hope that will happen. Maybe gargoyles and the skills that came with them will become a bit more desirable.
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Eyes of Origin
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*sigh* and what about those who did already spend the gold on them?
while they are at it, how about they delete all the 3.0 sots as well??? and every single duped item in game???
while they are at it, how about they delete all the 3.0 sots as well??? and every single duped item in game???
Does this include the ecru ring that i crafted with 499/500 weight? will that be reverted as well?
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Eyes of Origin
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Huge question and I hope someone can answer this..... how exactly are they going to revert the rings??? Taking 50 ep off them completely?? taking the skills off that make them go over 500????
Seriously, I hope someone can answer this.
Seriously, I hope someone can answer this.
Revert everything to 1 september. Pre-SA 
If I had to guess, I'd say if it's over 500 intensity and is imbued, they'll take EP off the ring.
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onthefifty
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baloney.
50 ep is insane as it is. pot chugging is lame. you have to do it if you want to stay alive in pvp and i do but i really don't get how at 120 healing you can still slip a bandage but every alchemist on sosaria is a master chemist and no potions ever fail or go poof. this whole thing seriously needs to be looked at.
I'm pretty sure FC and SC get factored into the calculator for imbue success chance and costs, and that this is a by product of enhancement after imbuing is finished and therefore, in my humble opinion, is not an exploit.Psst..
What about the SC +1 FC shields?
This as opposed to, presumably, the calculator ignoring, for whatever reason, the property of 50 EP, and allowing imbuing to continue even in its presence.
*edit* The alternative would be to remove FC from the wooden shield imbue menu completely, and only allow shields to receive that property through a random chance by enhancement. But I think that would be making imbuing a shield a fairly shallow proposition, unless of course, someone wanted to allow for HCI functionality through that process. *nudge nudge*
a bug is a bug and must be fixed. this is a non-issue. if you made a ring over 500 weight you knew what you were getting into.
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Green Mouser
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I hope...hehehehehehe... that with the new account tracking they can do, that they have already ID'd the accounts with multiple >500 Ecrus and they ban accounts. Yes, yes, yes thats the ticket! BAN BAN BAN Fiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Eyes of Origin
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you shouldnt assume.From all your posts i get the feeling you spent ALOT of gold on one of these "exploit" ringsThe difference to SOTs and RELICS is that the whole comunity benifits from an overload of these exploited items [we can buy them cheeper and cheeper and the exploiters rival to sell theres first] However only YOU will benifit from a ring with nearly 700 imbuing weight.. Again.. What about all the duped Vine cords people spent gold on... Case closed
On another note 50EP with just 1 other desired mod isnt that rare at all [or the RNG loves me] iv been buying gems for 25k each and get 1 in 10 that is just EP and HCI/DI/DCI/LMC that sell fast on my vendor for 15mill for people to imbue, if anyone is after an EP ring on atl with 1/2/3 mods i have over 200 desirable ones that will fit a template or two just PM me what your after
Future publish? So it'll show up at a date in the future. I'd buy one on the cheap and use it for the next 6 months as now it would seem the Dev team has accepted knowledge, did not rule a punishable exploit and, hence, legalized it.
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Capt.E
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Wait a second, I just spent a ton of money on ecru in order to make the perfect ring for my dexxer. What is going to happen? It was already nerfed to where you don't get 50 ep on every ring. I hate nerfs. I really hate nerfs. Am I going to get the money back that I spent on ecru? It took over 160 ecru to make 1 ring that had 50 ep was exceptional and had fire resist on it. Or is it duped rings? I really need more info than we are reverting ecru rings.
It wasnt an assumption. It was a feeling..
We assume 2+2=4 because we know 2 death robes + 2 death robes, means we have 4 in our back pack [and we see 4]!!
But on closer inspection they dont all have the same pixel's, so you get the FEELING one might not be a death robe but a dath shroud and 9 outa 10 your felling is right over your pre-programmed judgement of assumption....
anyway im going to bed.
More turkeys tomorrow
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Splup
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Being able to make EP rings with 700 % intensity is a bug which gets fixed. I mean, if you bought a ring with 700 % intensity you knew it will get fixed right? I mean assuming they wouldnt be fixed would be just silly...
Because of this I didnt build new suits/temps on these rings... I knew it gets fixed so wanted to save the trouble of fixing all suits and temps again after this gets fixed.
Because of this I didnt build new suits/temps on these rings... I knew it gets fixed so wanted to save the trouble of fixing all suits and temps again after this gets fixed.
kelmo
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I will sort this out when I get home from work. That is is unless some one gets to it before I. Until such time please refrain from discussing details of exploits. This thread will return soon.
I found out about this bug purely by accident when trying to make a low EP ring (I only needed 15 EP on the ring). All I did was perform a regular action that I normally do with items when I finish imbuing them and want to know where they are...so should I be punished and my now uber item turned into a pie due to a bug I had no idea existed?
I say just fix the issue and be done with it...let the ones people made decay as normal regardless of intent to exploit.
I say just fix the issue and be done with it...let the ones people made decay as normal regardless of intent to exploit.
With all the changes to Imbuing since inception I am still working out how to get the best results(its unclear as of yet how they want imbuing to work).
It Has been, however, clear this whole time anything over 500 intensity was over the top.
These people know(knew) they were exploiting a bug.
Ban their dumb asses! IMO
It Has been, however, clear this whole time anything over 500 intensity was over the top.
These people know(knew) they were exploiting a bug.
Ban their dumb asses! IMO
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UOKaiser
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Ok I got it now. Much confusing information. Finaly sorted it out.
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Coragin
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And people that bought said item would know the weight intensity how? Unless they are an imbuer or item ID person, they would not know. If you dont know crafting and the limits of imbuing and are not an imbuer or crafter, you get hosed.
You sir just made a ******** blanket statement. Well done!
Anything over 500 intensity eh? Did you forget about runics? DER!
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This is the delimna... While I am toying with this skill I just do not understand it well enough.
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Beastmaster
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There are numerous ways to create items with over 500% intensity. They didn't realize what they were doing with all the flexibility they gave us. However, 500% is just an arbitrary number. Why make such a fuss over some items going over an arbitrary cap. Especially when the cap was never really a cap, but just a number someone pulled out of a hat that they thought was the cap.
My guess would be if it's over the 500 then they would revert the ep to 25 that would make the most sence
Last time I checked you can't create Jewlery with runics.
If the binky is not to your liking don't wear it.
Did you mention jewelry? no (clearly I see you worded your statement with the term *anything*..)
Second...I have two ecrus now that were created with greater than 500 intensity. Are you saying I should be banned for those? Both are legit and both have been around for a long long time.
My point is don't be so quick to raise the pitchforks and torches...mmmk?
Most likely they will fix the coding then run a scan for Imbued Ecru Rings to check their intensity. Those that are found over the 500 cap will most likely have the EP adjusted. Problem is for the vast majority of players is that they have no idea which rings are over the max. At least with the bugged quivers people were told (eventually) how to tell which ones were bad, and when ML came out there was those armour pieces that were made with 100+ in each resist (yeah, you would have to be a complete moron not to think that there was something wrong with the piece).
It's A thread about over powered jewlery and imbuing, it goes with out saying(for most).
If you wish for anyone to respond to you seriously, how about you answer the points of validity before hopping straight into the insults? Again, I have two ecrus crafted that are above 500 intensity unimbued...do you think I should be banned for getting lucky at making an item? (or do you require me to repeat this again in order for you to respond to it without making another blanketed statement?)
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Aristillus
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I think that if your rings are above 500 and not imbued than you are ok
. If they are above 500 and have the imbued mark...that's another story. I don't think anyone should be banned for the exploited rings. Just fix them and let's move on with UO business as usual.
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Coragin
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QFT! All of a sudden customers matter!
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Crystal Canyon
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I think the people that are making them should sure as heck be banned! Look at the millions they are making off of other players and when the rings are no longer there they are just out all of that gold.I think that if your rings are above 500 and not imbued than you are ok
I don't think anyone should be banned for the exploited rings. Just fix them and let's move on with UO business as usual.
Most of the players that are buying probably do not have the imbuing skill so they have no idea even what the 500 means. They just saw some really great jewels on a vendor and bought them. They were intentionally deceived and will now lose their gold, the jewelry they bought, and if nothing is done, then the people who caused this will keep a few mil in gold while the innocent ones suffer from their cheating.
Its sad really. BUt what Ive always wondered....how the heck do people even think of some of these exploits? It cant all be by accident.
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Goodoljoe
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My ecru initially only had 50 EP and +1 fc when it was made and post imbue its 497/500,I hope thats inside acceptable margin..
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RichDC
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I hope to hell my ecru ring
50ep
15dci
fcr3
5lmc
Wont be reverted...took me friggin ages to craft the right base ring!
50ep
15dci
fcr3
5lmc
Wont be reverted...took me friggin ages to craft the right base ring!
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Splup
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That is not bugged ring. It has 498 intensity. Rings that are getting reverted are rings that has been made 680 % intensity with an exploit.
So you don't have to worry about your ring.
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lucksi
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For the love of God, I hope they test this before they revert it. I have an imbued 50EP ring which is at 500/500, so it´s in not an exploited one. Took me 500 ecrus to get the right base and I´m all out of ecrus.
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RichDC
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Thats what we all hope, but as the above post, this could go horribly wrong and ALL imbued EP rings get reverted.
They cant possibl dlete every duped item ingame, as long as most of them got unique item id's- what they should have done from the beginning, is track real high end em stuff and special loot item id's, that way, if more of them shows up, they would know the range id's given to the original items, and run a once a week or something checkup on item vs id range and simply remove the ones that fail the check. that would give a near full proof protection, but implenting it would be somewhat tedious I guess and take a massive amount of work. So should have been done ages ago, but better sooner than never.
All imho.
This is the case for most items obtained with bugs or exploits. Sometimes there is even no way for the buyer to know the items has been illegally obtained (If a doom arty is duped, how a buyer could see the difference?).
I am afraid they probably do not have any other option than to adapt or remove such items from the game, especially if they are overpowered like those uber imbued ecru rings.
If it is too good to be true, it is probably not true.
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King Frankie
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Problem lay with that server has an default setting to revert any ecru to 50% so its not really the imbuers fault from the beginning, the development team simply missed this fact. Like many ive seen they "stumbled over it by accident" and sure it was all an accident that now will be fixed so whos to blame the player or the person that script the server configs. You go figure...
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Green Mouser
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650 Intensity on that ring. Bring The Rain!
No excuses acceptable. Remove EP from the rings that are >500. Ban/Suspend any account with 2 or more.
If Microsoft can step up and enforce their rules and ban 1 million accounts. Surely EA can step up and make an impact with a banning of these few violators.
Any player that is working an Imbuer and has gotten to the skill needed to make this ring understands the 500 rule. Again no excuses....Bring the Rain!
No excuses acceptable. Remove EP from the rings that are >500. Ban/Suspend any account with 2 or more.
If Microsoft can step up and enforce their rules and ban 1 million accounts. Surely EA can step up and make an impact with a banning of these few violators.
Any player that is working an Imbuer and has gotten to the skill needed to make this ring understands the 500 rule. Again no excuses....Bring the Rain!