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[UO Herald] FoF: It's Friday go Frolick

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In this Five on Friday we cover Throwing, Faction Artifacts, and the Doom point system.



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Aboo

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I liked the suggestion someone made about being able to donate things to the Community Collections via commodity deeds and the answer gives us hope that they might, at some point in the future, do that.
 

4gregu

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I liked the suggestion someone made about being able to donate things to the Community Collections via commodity deeds and the answer gives us hope that they might, at some point in the future, do that.
Agreed, although I would be more optimistic if the reply was "it will be in the next publish" because we all know how "The donation system for community collections needs an overhaul......This is a great idea" can turn into "never".
 
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Aboo

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Agreed, although I would be more optimistic if the reply was "it will be in the next publish" because we all know how "The donation system for community collections needs an overhaul......This is a great idea" can turn into "never".
That's true, but I will try to be positive about it, at least until about the 4 month mark. :D
 
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Marcus Blackwell

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Not to bad of a FoF.. I look forward to testing throwing if Im one of the lucky ones. Hopefully its a skill worth taking up.
 

JC the Builder

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The faction question is obviously from my recent topic on the Stratics forum.

I was trying to make the point that faction items should be much more disposable. The durability should be something like 100 and should only last about a month. If you take very good care of your artifacts they will easily last a year. The turnover on them is so low.
 

Nine Dark Moons

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Will there ever be an easier way to turn a character from red to blue? The current time to turn my character from red to blue is over 800 hours...
We’re considering a one-time reprieve at some point in the future.
-Draconi
WOOHOO!!! it would take over 25,000 hours (just about 3 years) to burn off the long term murder counts on one of the chars on an account i bought last year - i would love a one time reprieve!!!
 

GalenKnighthawke

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WOOHOO!!! it would take over 25,000 hours (just about 3 years) to burn off the long term murder counts on one of the chars on an account i bought last year - i would love a one time reprieve!!!
Why do reds express their hatred of Trammel and pride in their number of murder counts, to the point where 2 shards free of Trammel aren't enough they want a third, and then also want a murder count reprieve? Going red isn't really all that easy to do by accident.

Soul Stones and Soul Stone Fragments are pretty common.

-Galen's player
 

Xanthril of LA

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Going red isn't really all that easy to do by accident.
I agree, but we have a fella on LA who apparently has an agenda to turn every blue he finds into a red. If you have an EV out or are casting wither, he will intentionally take a hit so that you are the aggressor and then go kill himself. I'm new to the fel world, but that does not seem to be the spirit of going red. Of course, my chars are still blue.
 

Bomb Bloke

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Granted, Soul Stone Fragments are easy to obtain for those who need them, but Power and Stat scrolls? Not so much.

Please explain the point system in more detail for doom. I can spend hours in doom soloing and get nothing. Seems to me that if drops are based on a point system that if someone solos something that person should receive all the points that it offers.

Instead of looking at is as the "total points available" on the doom boss, think of it as a value that determines how many points each person attacking the boss gets in the end. That means that the person who did the most damage gets the maximum available points from the encounter for a given player. If another person joins in, the amount of points available as a total is increased, however they'll get a bit less than the top attacker did.

So, the way to look at this system is that it increases the available points from a boss to accomodate adding more players to the boss fight without punishing those already there.

- Wilki
So you've supposedly got more chance of getting an arti while soloing, because you're always the "top attacker" and hence always get the highest amount of points you possibly can.

But less artis get handed out overall, because less points are getting handed out overall.

All very interesting (even if this has been clear since the change to the tokuno style system), but how does luck factor into your chances?
 

Nine Dark Moons

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Why do reds express their hatred of Trammel and pride in their number of murder counts, to the point where 2 shards free of Trammel aren't enough they want a third, and then also want a murder count reprieve? Going red isn't really all that easy to do by accident.

Soul Stones and Soul Stone Fragments are pretty common.

-Galen's player
i am a very happy trammie - i bought an account with the one red char last year and i'd love for her to be blue!!! :) she has a PBD and is all scrolled out so i don't want to delete her. but 25000 hours of murder counts to burn off is a bit excessive.
 
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Rocklin

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Alot of people complain when there is a bad FoF, not enough compliment when there is a good FoF. NICE FOF THIS WEEK. Thank you.
 

Warpig Inc

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No need for the deeds for turn in. If your collecting for turn in then just turn it in as it is gathered. Deeds will just support the scripters dumping at the bank.
 

Thav12

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No need for the deeds for turn in. If your collecting for turn in then just turn it in as it is gathered. Deeds will just support the scripters dumping at the bank.
This is of course not true. THe way it is set up right now it is essentially impossible to do it without automation, unless you have some role playing fantasies that it makes sense to deliver 90.000 battle axes or 260.000 boards to get 800.000 points for an item. I have not been able to persistently turn in anything because I do not have enough time in a year's worth of playing to just do this over and over again. To me this process is one that is begging to be scripted, and I know for a fact it is. If you can just dump a deed, the need to script would be diminished since it would be just as easy to do it by hand.

Now, would it alter anything about resource gathering: no. That still is tedious and time consuming, begging to be scripted, but that is not influenced by changing the turn in method at all. Can't confuse these things. Personally, I would like to see the incentive to script anything, including resources, taken out of the game. But that is just as likely to happen as it is for hell to freeze over. So, and I feel like I have repeated my self here on these boards, just play the game the way you enjoy it....
 

Gildar

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Why do reds express their hatred of Trammel and pride in their number of murder counts, to the point where 2 shards free of Trammel aren't enough they want a third, and then also want a murder count reprieve? Going red isn't really all that easy to do by accident.

Soul Stones and Soul Stone Fragments are pretty common.

-Galen's player
Not all reds express pride in their number of murder counts. Some people loved being a murderer for a long time, but are now no longer enjoying it. Other people bought accounts that had a murderer on it, and keep them because of powerscrolls that have been applied to those characters and/or PBDs.
 

FrejaSP

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I agree, but we have a fella on LA who apparently has an agenda to turn every blue he finds into a red. If you have an EV out or are casting wither, he will intentionally take a hit so that you are the aggressor and then go kill himself.
You wrong here, unless the caster of the EV/wither are grey or red it won't hit any blue and he can't turn them red that way. There may be other ways, but think they are fixed.

If the caster are grey or red, he should be careful with firld spells if he don't want counts
 

Cogniac

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Two things.

#1:
Will there ever be an easier way to turn a character from red to blue? The current time to turn my character from red to blue is over 800 hours...

We’re considering a one-time reprieve at some point in the future.

- Draconi
You need to make this a choice. Some people really do want to get rid of their murder counts, but many reds consider their numbers a matter of pride. When the dev team has done one-time reprieves in the past (which baffles as to why they can continue to call it a "one-time" reprieve when they've done it several times) they have not given anyone a choice about the matter. All the reds just log in one day to find the dev team basically saying to them "We've just erased years of your work, and didn't even ask you if you really wanted it. Surprise!"

#2:
All very interesting (even if this has been clear since the change to the tokuno style system), but how does luck factor into your chances?
^ This. I've submitted this question through the feedback form a few times now. I recognize that much like my last question about Luck, this one is probably also involves an odyssey through the code, but that last odyssey illuminated the problems with the loot tables, so it can't be all bad!
 

Draconi

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Two things.

#1:You need to make this a choice. Some people really do want to get rid of their murder counts, but many reds consider their numbers a matter of pride. When the dev team has done one-time reprieves in the past (which baffles as to why they can continue to call it a "one-time" reprieve when they've done it several times) they have not given anyone a choice about the matter. All the reds just log in one day to find the dev team basically saying to them "We've just erased years of your work, and didn't even ask you if you really wanted it. Surprise!"
Hmm, dunno about other devs in times past, but when I say one-time reprieve, I mean a choice that the murderer can make when and if they want. No one's going to force a wipe of murder counts.
#2:^ This. I've submitted this question through the feedback form a few times now. I recognize that much like my last question about Luck, this one is probably also involves an odyssey through the code, but that last odyssey illuminated the problems with the loot tables, so it can't be all bad!
It's not, actually. I'd expect it in another FoF.
 

Xanthril of LA

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You wrong here, unless the caster of the EV/wither are grey or red it won't hit any blue and he can't turn them red that way. There may be other ways, but think they are fixed.
Thanks. I must have misunderstood some comments in guild chat. I'm fairly new to fel so learning the ropes as I go. Thanks again for clarification.
 

G.v.P

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I love how gargoyles wont be able to use archery. I hope it made some archers cry. And then get happy again, eat ice cream, whatever, but I just hate archers.

And I'll probably hate throwers too.

Moving throw in the future? ;D
 

GalenKnighthawke

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Not all reds express pride in their number of murder counts. Some people loved being a murderer for a long time, but are now no longer enjoying it. Other people bought accounts that had a murderer on it, and keep them because of powerscrolls that have been applied to those characters and/or PBDs.
Skills can be soul-stoned off.

Does being "scrolled up" not come with soul-stoning skills?

(Honest question....Seriously!!! I don't know!! Always thought it did, though.)

As to PBDs, when I came back to UO I made a new account. I'd love to have a PBD too.

However, I don't expect to ever get one.

-Galen's player
 

GalenKnighthawke

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Hmm, dunno about other devs in times past, but when I say one-time reprieve, I mean a choice that the murderer can make when and if they want. No one's going to force a wipe of murder counts.
I am aware of one time there was a forced wipe of murder counts.

After the Harrower first appeared, there was a bug where it would give out hundreds of murder accounts to blues attacking it. Something to do with its damage reflection attack.

And I guess the easiest way to fix it was to just fix the bug, then wipe ALL murder counts.

Reds flipped out.

-Galen's player
 

GalenKnighthawke

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Not all reds express pride in their number of murder counts. Some people loved being a murderer for a long time, but are now no longer enjoying it. Other people bought accounts that had a murderer on it, and keep them because of powerscrolls that have been applied to those characters and/or PBDs.
For people who enjoy being red ad now don't? I'm sure lots of people don't enjoy prison after a few years either.

Eh....I guess I can understand this upon further reflection.

But, honestly....

Nah, screw it, I just deleted the rest of my message.

I guess I'll just leave this issue alone, at least for today.

-Galen's player
 

GalenKnighthawke

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Heh.

I didn't notice that stuff about the Doom Gauntlet until today.

Time to slightly reconfigure my Doom Paladain again. I'd thought I'd switch to the Juggernaut Set and not bother with slayers.

Big mistake it seems!!!

*sighs*

lol

-Galen's player
 
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