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2/26/2020 Greetings, As of 5pm ET we are pleased to announce Release 2 of Publish 108 will be available for testing. This phase includes an update to House Decay Rules, Condemned houses will go through six stages of decay which will take at least five days, Like New -> Slightly Worn -> Somewhat Worn -> Fairly Worn -> Greatly Worn -> In Danger of Collapsing When a house goes into the condemned status the house will become private and all access will be removed. Friend and Co-owner lists will be cleared. Houses with rental vendors will become OSI owned and […]

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Sounds like fun. Couple Questions. 1: Are people going to be able to reach packies through the fence. 2: How will items be recieved, as loot for destroying barrels or are barrels going to explode items everywhere. 3: Will Trade Ministers give coords to IDOC or runes.
 

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I can already see it. People punch their way through the ropes, start fighting over the Barrels, and some huge four armed dude named "Goro" shows up and starts wrecking people, while someone screams "MORTAL KOMBAT!" You have to perform the "Nutcracker" to beat him.
 

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Nope, it won't be anywhere near that entertaining. =[

It'll be Wrestle-Parry-ninjas in an animal form that moves at mount speed. so they can move loot out to their packies faster than one on foot could.
 

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The following items will be deleted during house collapse,
  • Account Bound Items
  • House Only Items
  • Commodity Deeds
  • Stackable Items
  • Goza Mats
I guess all resources go *poof* at idocs now.
 

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  • Commodity Deeds
  • Stackable Items

Well shucks. I wish they'd rethink that.
 

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Mesanna was just on test and there are new changes coming. Test going down for new updates
 

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Yep.

Now everyone's local resource scripter can make a living again

Hard one i have not decided yet what to think about this

On one hand it is like you say

On the other hand deleting resources may be better for the game
Devs get a better wepon to fight the resource scripters when the scripter house falls all his scripted resources get deleted and not only redistributed into the game
 

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Hard one i have not decided yet what to think about this

On one hand it is like you say

On the other hand deleting resources may be better for the game
Devs get a better wepon to fight the resource scripters when the scripter house falls all his scripted resources get deleted and not only redistributed into the game
Unless they are actively in the game seriously patrolling and banning the true scripters the ONLY people these changes hurt are the normal people, not cheaters... cheaters will continue to script and cheat and get loads of any material they need... the rest of us will not. Especially with the random resources. The rest of us will continue to struggle to get what we need when we need it.

Seriously it's a major part of the reason many do IDOCs... to get resources and stuff they don't have. Not to make a buck... Those doing it to make a buck are the ones you need to look out for...

Much of my stocks of resources came from IDOCs. Or from me working hard to gain Mining... or gather stone. I don't do any of that anymore as it's a pretty futile effort to try to get what I need. I don't do BODs so I don't get the special "maps" to mine what I need... if I need a certain ore it may take me days to find it... especially if I'm looking for one of the higher end ones. To me that's not something I want to waste what precious game time I have doing. Most don't. So taking this away will only promote MORE CHEATING. And as I said unless they are going to take a more active role in preventing or stopping this kind of cheating then this is NOT a good idea.
 

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Unless they are actively in the game seriously patrolling and banning the true scripters the ONLY people these changes hurt are the normal people, not cheaters... cheaters will continue to script and cheat and get loads of any material they need... the rest of us will not. Especially with the random resources. The rest of us will continue to struggle to get what we need when we need it.

Seriously it's a major part of the reason many do IDOCs... to get resources and stuff they don't have. Not to make a buck... Those doing it to make a buck are the ones you need to look out for...

Much of my stocks of resources came from IDOCs. Or from me working hard to gain Mining... or gather stone. I don't do any of that anymore as it's a pretty futile effort to try to get what I need. I don't do BODs so I don't get the special "maps" to mine what I need... if I need a certain ore it may take me days to find it... especially if I'm looking for one of the higher end ones. To me that's not something I want to waste what precious game time I have doing. Most don't. So taking this away will only promote MORE CHEATING. And as I said unless they are going to take a more active role in preventing or stopping this kind of cheating then this is NOT a good idea.
It is possible that is the best way to go

but i seen the other side of it also

A couple of years ago there was an idoc from a scripter/duper donno what it was but it was loaded with imbuing resources after just a couple days it completly flooded the market on atlantic to the point it was no longer worth the effort for a normal player hunting in the abyss for resources and sell them

So what is better help normal non cheating players that do idocs or
Help legit players that collect resources

Non of the options are realy good as long as scripters exist
 

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I don't mind commodity deeds, but there are quite many items which are theoretically "stackable", but generally aren't actually stacked. I'd hate to see all of those rares just get deleted because they're going after undeeded stacks of iron or leather. That includes all pies, all easter eggs, and quite a large list of other items: UO:Stackable Rares - Stratics Community Wiki I'd far rather they specifically target the specific stackable crafting ingredients that can go into commodity deeds, rather than "all items that are technically stackable":

Abyssal Cloth
Acid Sac
Agapite Granite
Agapite Ingots
Amber
Amethyst
Ancient Parchment
Apple
Arcanic Rune Stone
Ash Boards
A Small Piece Of Blackrock
Autumn Dragonfish Steak
Axle
Ball Of Yarn
Bananas
Barbed Leather
Bark Fragment
Barrel Hoops
Barrel Lid
Barrel Staves
Barrel Tap
Basket Of Green Tea
Batwing
Beeswax
Black Candle
Black Dragon Scale
Blackmoor
Black Pearl
Black Powder
Blank Scroll
Blight
Blood Moss
Blood Of The Dark Father
Bloodspawn
Bloodwood Boards
Blow Pipe
Blue Corn
Blue Diamond
Blue Dragon Scale
Blue Lobster Meat
Board
Boards
Bola Balls
Bolt Of Cloth
Bone
Bottle of Ichor
Bottle Of Liquor
Bottle Of Wine
Boura Pelt
Bowl Of Peas
Bowl Of Rotworm Stew
Brilliant Amber
Brimstone
Bronze Granite
Bronze Ingots
Bull Fish Steak
Cake Mix
Captured Essence
Carrot
Chaga Mushroom
Charcoal
Citrine
Clock Parts
Clockwork Assembly
Cloth
Cocoa Butter
Cocoa Liquor
Cocoa Pulp
Coffee Grounds
Coffee Pod (2 types)
Color Fixative
Cookie Mix
Copper Granite
Copper Ingots
Corruption
Crossbow Bolt
Crushed Glass
Crystal Dust
Crystal Fish Steak
Crystal Granules
Crystalline Blackrock
Crystal Shards
Cure Of Defense
Cure Of Fortification
Cure Of Hardening
Cure Of Invulnerability
Cure Of Protection
Cut Cloth
Cut Of Raw Ribs
Daemon Blood
Daemon Bone
Daemon Claw
Darkglow Poison
Dark Sapphire
Dark Truffle
Dead Wood
Delicate Scales
Diamond
Diseased Bark
Dough
Dovetail Saw
Dragon's Blood
Dragon's Blood Old
Dragon's Blood (old)
Dragon Scale
Dragon Turtle Scute
Draw Knife
Dread Horn Mane
Dried Herbs
Dry Reeds
Dull Copper Granite
Dull Copper Ingots
Dyes
Ear Of Corn
Ecru Citrine
Eggs
Elven Fletching
Emerald
Empty Bottle
Enchanted Essence
Enchanted Switch
Essence Of Achievement
Essence Of Balance
Essence Of Control
Essence Of Diligence
Essence Of Direction
Essence Of Feeling
Essence Of Order
Essence Of Passion
Essence Of Persistence
Essence Of Precision
Essence Of Singularity
Ethereal Sand
Executioner's Cap
Explosion Potion
Eye of Newt
Eye Of The Travesty
Faery Dust
Fairy Dragon Wing
Fairy Dust
Fairy Salmon Steak
Feather
Fertile Dirt
Fey Wings
Fire Fish Steak
Fire Ruby
Fletcher's Tools
Foil Sheet
Fresh Ginger
Fresh Seasoning
Froe
Frostwood Boards
Garlic
Gate Scroll
Gears
Giant Koi Steak
Ginseng
Glass Sword
Gloss
Gloss Of Defense
Gloss Of Fortification
Gloss Of Hardening
Gloss Of Invulnerability
Gloss Of Protection
Goblin Blood
Gold
Gold Dust
Gold Granite
Gold Ingots
Gorgon Lens
Granite
Grapes
Grave Dust
Great Barracuda Steak
Greater Heal Potion
Greater Strength Potion
Green Dragon Scale
Grizzled Bones
Head Of Cabbage
Head Of Lettuce
Heartwood Boards
Heating Stand
Hitching Rope
Hollow Prism
Holy Mackerel Steak
Horned Leather
Inshave
Interior Decorator
Jar Of Honey
Jeweled Filigree
Jointing Plane
Keg
Key Of The Caretaker
Lard Of Paroxysmus
Lava Berry
Lava Fish Steak
Lava Serpent Crust
Leather
Leather Braid
Leggings Of Bane
Lodestone
Logs
Luminescent Fungi
Magical Residue
Malleable Alloy
Mandrake Root
Match Cord
Medusa Blood
Mento Seasoning
Metal Keg
Moonstone Crystal Shards
Mortar And Pestle
Moulding Planes
Muculent
Myrmidex Eggsac
Nails
Nexus Core
Nightshade
Nox Crystal
Oak Boards
Obsidian
Obsidian (Pagan event)
Ocean Sapphire
Onion
Parasitic Plant
Parasitic Poison
Peach
Pear
Perfect Banana
Perfect Emerald
Pewter Bowl
Pig Iron
Pile of Barbed Hides
Pile of Barbed Leather
Pile of Hides
Pile of Horned Hides
Pile of Horned Leather
Pile of Leather
Pile of Spined Hides
Pile of Spined Leather
Plant Clippings
Plant Pigment
Platemail Tunic
Poison Potion
Polish
Polish Of Defense
Polish Of Fortification
Polish Of Hardening
Polish Of Invulnerability
Polish Of Protection
Potash
Pouch
Powdered Iron
Power Crystal
Pristine Dread Horn
Protection Scroll
Pumice
Pumpkin
Putrefaction
Quicksilver
Raptor Teeth
Raw Bird
Raw Chicken Leg
Raw Dino Ribs
Raw Fish Steak
Raw Leg of Lamb
Raw Leg Of Lamb
Raw Meat
Raw Rotworm Meat
Raw Serpent Steak
Reaper Fish Steak
Recall Scroll
Recipe
Red Candle
Red Dragon Scale
Reflective Wolf Eye
Relic Fragment
Resolve's Bridle
Ring Of The Elements
River Moss
Rolling Pin
Rope
Ruby
Runed Prism
Sack Of Sugar
Salt
Saltpeter
Samuel's Secret Sauce
Sand
Sapphire
Sausage
Saw
Scales
Scorp
Scour
Scourge
Scouring Toxin
Scour Of Defense
Scour Of Fortification
Scour Of Hardening
Scour Of Invulnerability
Scour Of Protection
Scribe's Pen
Seed of Renewal
Serpent's Scale
Sewing Kit
Sextant Parts
Shadow Iron Granite
Shadow Iron Ingots
Shaft
Silver Serpent Venom
Silver Snake Skin
Skillet
Sledge Hammer
Slith Tongue
Smith's Hammer
Smoothing Plane
Softened Reeds
Solvent Flask
Spider Carapace
Spider Crab Meat
Spider's Silk
Spider’s Silk
Spiders' Silk
Spined Leather
Spool Of Thread
Springs
Squash
Staff Of The Magi
Star Sapphire
Stone Crab Meat
Sulfurous Ash
Sulphurous Ash
Summer Dragonfish Steak
Summon Daemon Scroll
Sweet Cocoa Butter
Sweet Dough
Switch
Taint
Tiger Pelt
Tourmaline
Toxic Venom Sac
Tribal Berry
Turquoise
Unbaked Apple Pie
Unbaked Fruit Pie
Unbaked Meat Pie
Unbaked Peach Cobbler
Unbaked Pumpkin Pie
Uncooked Cheese Pizza
Uncooked Quiche
Uncooked Sausage Pizza
Undying Flesh
Unicorn Fish Steak
Unmarked Rune
Valorite Granite
Valorite Ingots
Vanilla
Varnish
Varnish Of Defense
Varnish Of Fortification
Varnish Of Hardening
Varnish Of Invulnerability
Varnish Of Protection
Verite Granite
Verite Ingots
Vial of Blood
Vial of Vitriol
Void Essence
Void Orb
Volcanic Ash
Wash
Wash Of Defense
Wash Of Fortification
Wash Of Hardening
Wash Of Invulnerability
Wash Of Protection
Water
Wheat Sheaf
Wheel Of Cheese
White Dragon Scale
White Pearl
Wilted Soul Fragments
Wooden Bowl
Wood Pulp
Workable Glass
Wyrm's Heart
Yellow Dragon Scale
Yellowtail Barracuda Steak
Yew Boards
Zoogi Fungus

(Not listed are all the types of mage, necro, sw, etc spell scrolls.)

That's extracted from some code I wrote to let the wiki show images for crafted items. I've taken out the non-stackables for the most part, but I may have missed a couple (and some items are technically stackable, even if they don't normally stack). But the point is, that's under 400 items to block. If they do it right, and also decide whether or not to delete any given item based on the combo of graphic, hue and item name (the difference, for example, between a stack of "iron ingots" you just got from smelting, vs a 21 year old stack of unusable "ingots" with old npc armor hues), then you'd specifically be targeting what they want to get rid of, and not just blindly deleting any and every item of the roughly 826 graphics that are defined in the client as a "stackable item".
 

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Unless they are actively in the game seriously patrolling and banning the true scripters the ONLY people these changes hurt are the normal people, not cheaters... cheaters will continue to script and cheat and get loads of any material they need... the rest of us will not. Especially with the random resources. The rest of us will continue to struggle to get what we need when we need it.

Seriously it's a major part of the reason many do IDOCs... to get resources and stuff they don't have. Not to make a buck... Those doing it to make a buck are the ones you need to look out for...

Much of my stocks of resources came from IDOCs. Or from me working hard to gain Mining... or gather stone. I don't do any of that anymore as it's a pretty futile effort to try to get what I need. I don't do BODs so I don't get the special "maps" to mine what I need... if I need a certain ore it may take me days to find it... especially if I'm looking for one of the higher end ones.
You cannot just go mine verite and valorite ore anymore?? That sucks if not... that was actually fun for me on some levels. I would never do it any more either, but it was fun and relaxing. Was nice to find a good stretch of mountains...... Scripters really have destroyed this game, it's very sad that they give no **** about this game.
 

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You cannot just go mine verite and valorite ore anymore?? That sucks if not... that was actually fun for me on some levels. I would never do it any more either, but it was fun and relaxing. Was nice to find a good stretch of mountains...... Scripters really have destroyed this game, it's very sad that they give no **** about this game.

If you do BoDs you can get a "map" that will be for Verite or Valorite... but if you want stone for crafting some project and you aren't a crafter who does BoDs... no you can spend the next 2 or 3 weeks looking for verite or valorite but good luck finding some. Chances are you won't.

and it sucks.... For RP reasons when I was in the YM we used to use pretty much all Verite stone for tables and chairs and such... I spent loads of time gathering verite stone for crafting... after it was randomized I just gave up. Was near impossible to find the stuff... I just quit looking... wasn't worth the time you had to invest in searching... anymore that's kinda how I feel about lots of things in UO... not worth the time you have to invest... I'm more of a casual type player I don't play UO to make a profit... I don't play UO to "win" at anything... I just play to have fun... and fun to me isn't spending 3 weeks trying to gather enough verite stone to make a table or to grind for hours on end to get some silly item I probably will never use.

Once upon a time, it was more to log in and spend time laughing and joking with friends and to enjoy the company... I miss those times.
 

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I wasn't particularly happy with the randomizing of resources, either. But with prospector's tool and gargoyle pickaxe you can bump up the ore/stone you get by 1-2 levels. With a bunch of extra ore from the elementals. Those tools are easily gotten with the most basic BODs (may need bribing to exceptional). Sometimes I also try naked gathering in Fel for the double resources.
 

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I wasn't particularly happy with the randomizing of resources, either. But with prospector's tool and gargoyle pickaxe you can bump up the ore/stone you get by 1-2 levels. With a bunch of extra ore from the elementals. Those tools are easily gotten with the most basic BODs (may need bribing to exceptional). Sometimes I also try naked gathering in Fel for the double resources.
And deal with Elementals? No thanks. I'm a crafter not a fighter.

I've often gone to Fel for resources or Ilsh... depending... but I don't go to fight elementals... I've even mined in Dungeon areas for the Niter deposits... but even trying to "bump" it, I find that more often than not all I get is plain ore... and maybe 1 or 2 of what I'm looking for... seems a massive waste of time and resources for little return.

Again got most of my resources from IDOCs and pre-scramble of the resources. Since then I just don't have the patience for mining .... Lumberjacking I'll still do but ONLY in Ter Mur. I wish I could get double resources there but no...
 

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It was a nasty shock to get back into mining and find out they nerfed the smelting! Luckily it was mostly just bronze. Now all my verite and valorite is just gonna sit as ore until I get around to messing with the smelting talismans.
 

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If you do BoDs you can get a "map" that will be for Verite or Valorite... but if you want stone for crafting some project and you aren't a crafter who does BoDs... no you can spend the next 2 or 3 weeks looking for verite or valorite but good luck finding some. Chances are you won't.
Its lot easier to do the traders quest to get granite.
You get lot doing them
 

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How does the so-called fence barrier work with fel idocs for pvp?? Can you cast across it to fight people inside or do you have to be inside to kill players looting? How big is the fence area? Seems it will be an advantage for mounted pvpers just casting in on people stuck on foot. Sounds overly complicated as idea instead of just preventing people from mass scripting over dozens of accounts.
 

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I don't mind commodity deeds
I think at least some of the rares you talk about you can add to comm deeds I remember I have purchased some on vendors in the past (i think it was old necro regs eye of newt or something like that) why anyone would add those to comm deeds i don't know but you can do it
 

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And deal with Elementals? No thanks. I'm a crafter not a fighter.

I've often gone to Fel for resources or Ilsh... depending... but I don't go to fight elementals... I've even mined in Dungeon areas for the Niter deposits... but even trying to "bump" it, I find that more often than not all I get is plain ore... and maybe 1 or 2 of what I'm looking for... seems a massive waste of time and resources for little return.

Again got most of my resources from IDOCs and pre-scramble of the resources. Since then I just don't have the patience for mining .... Lumberjacking I'll still do but ONLY in Ter Mur. I wish I could get double resources there but no...
Mine in fel delucia. Call guards on eles.
 

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I think at least some of the rares you talk about you can add to comm deeds I remember I have purchased some on vendors in the past (i think it was old necro regs eye of newt or something like that) why anyone would add those to comm deeds i don't know but you can do it
Yes, you can put a few things like old furs in comm deeds. But most you can't, and generally, people don't have something like UO-Item-5928-439.pngA Creamy Chocolate Easter Egg sitting in a comm deed, rather than on display. But is it stackable? Yep.
 

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He's a crafter, not a fighter. My miner is the same. I just stay in cove.
And resources are available on npc ships. Tons of em actually.No need to deal with IDOC cr@p at all
 

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He's a crafter, not a fighter. My miner is the same. I just stay in cove.
And resources are available on npc ships. Tons of em actually.No need to deal with IDOC cr@p at all
Ships don't have the stackables from the Abyss... Ships don't have stackables from the Peerless... These things will be lost... Ships don't have the rares that are stackables....
 

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If they want to make it totally fair then everyone should do the same base amount of damage, there shouldn't be any provisos on that, everyone should be equal irrespective of their own skills. Seems like they have made wrestling not count, so they should do the same with other combat skills. Let there be a level playing field and as Messana said 'We have come up with what we think will be a fair and just system for everyone' so, make it so!
 

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If they want to make it totally fair then everyone should do the same base amount of damage, there shouldn't be any provisos on that, everyone should be equal irrespective of their own skills. Seems like they have made wrestling not count, so they should do the same with other combat skills. Let there be a level playing field and as Messana said 'We have come up with what we think will be a fair and just system for everyone' so, make it so!
I agree with you on that
To do that the barrels would need to have a really low dmg cap on dmg taken so everybody would hit for like 2 dmg and don't make the fight take much longer than 1 -2 min so dropp hp down
 

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So if multiple people are punching the same barrel, is the loot distributed to all those with looting rights, or only to the player that lands the last hit on that particular barrel?
 

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From what people have reported it seems that you get loot if you did the most damage, but perhaps it should be the top three or four damagers or something like that rather than just one person, if the barrel has a lot of items then best to split it up maybe? The Devs need to remember that what works well on test is not always so great on Atlantic or indeed on less populated, quieter shards.
 

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So if multiple people are punching the same barrel, is the loot distributed to all those with looting rights, or only to the player that lands the last hit on that particular barrel?
All with looting rights, I tested this day one. Now how much damage is required for looting rights, I don't know.

edit: My test was done with two characters. So what happens with more idk.
 

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Tested I hit 2 barrels for a minute then went to a 3rd and got loot from all three.
 

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I already see the old Barrel scripts that fill it will water coming into play. Walk in with ur regular character and use an Ej acc to barrel it and add water pitchers giving them a little more time. And with barrels being able to get destroyed in 7-10 hits, not a good sign.
 

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I already see the old Barrel scripts that fill it will water coming into play. Walk in with ur regular character and use an Ej acc to barrel it and add water pitchers giving them a little more time. And with barrels being able to get destroyed in 7-10 hits, not a good sign.
You have to explain that better i don't understand water barrels dont block movement or placing a house so what are those barrels going to do?
 

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You have to explain that better i don't understand water barrels dont block movement or placing a house so what are those barrels going to do?
Shows you how long its been since ive done idocs, LOL. Also it seems that even after a day of not idocing, u still get items into your pack while cleaning it out from previous ones you did.
 

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They also need to change it so that ALL the barrels need to be removed before the houseplacement timer begins. Otherwise when the house drops all the barrels get deleted where the house goes.
 

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Human nature being what it is, I can see people placing and 'poofing' the barrels just for fun and spite. :(
 

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They also need to change it so that ALL the barrels need to be removed before the houseplacement timer begins. Otherwise when the house drops all the barrels get deleted where the house goes.
Is it only when you place house that the barrels get deleted or is it also when you test place a house ?
Bit of griefing warning on that one
 

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When you test place a house the barrels get deleted when you remove it, if placing a house they get under the house sign and only the house owner can attack them
 

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i tend to get way more of the rare quality ores, leather and wood when doing pirating compared to using the actually harvesting skills
 

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And deal with Elementals? No thanks. I'm a crafter not a fighter.
He's a crafter, not a fighter. My miner is the same. I just stay in cove.
My Prospector (Mining/LJ/Fishing) uses an axe i crafted to kill Ore Eles. Can even kill Valorite Eles with him. I'll keep Greater Heal ready while swinging at them. I always use a Garg Pickaxe when going for higher end Ores, Ore Eles often give me more Ore than the vein itself does.
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AntyvasII

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The valorite ones hit pretty hard, but their real danger is from the damage reflect that will destroy your armor if you don't keep an eye on the durability.
 
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