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UO Auction House or Vendor Boards connected to ALL vendors. RATE THREAD PLEASE
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UOKaiser
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Other=Vets, Resellers, Merchants. Thats how we make gold and enjoy our game.
They= are the ones selling the products. The suppliers. If there dupers we the merchants cannot beat them in price ever. If they honest suppliers they make there gold they asking for there products but because it takes times for them to resupply for them in the mean time we make a little profit by buying them out and selling it to the richer players which are most of the population of UO who prefer bulk or fast,constant delivery of what they want to play there game instead of waiting for a supplier to get there items.
The suppliers make the most money as they put in time for gold. Resellers make the less as we put in gold for gold. But we buy huge amounts from different shops.
We normaly just go out to the faraway shops and look for deals the ones that don't get traffic normaly. They always sell things cheap.
People already do this...and if you are going to monitor sales 24/7, then you certainly deserve the profit margin.
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UOKaiser
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Ofcourse this is how we do it. Though a world wide search site will make it much easier. Theres a lot of us so it's whoever gets the worm first. Thats how luna venders get there prices. We check the search sites see something in luna thats too cheap and buy it out and raise the price and put it on a vender maybe even 2venders away from the original. Still those who price there things too high never get sold and those who price there things too low are cleaned out as soon as they put it.
My reseller side of me is for a world wide search as well everything will be brought up to the luna pricing soon enough. Helping the suppliers as they are able to sell there items higher and the resellers have a easier way of checking for bargins.
Though my traditional side is against world search as it will be bad for the rest of the playerbase as a whole in many ways than 1. And I want to see UO better of for everyone not just me.
Oddly enough I can still find very cheap deals in Luna every now and then.
How on earth do you figure it will be worse for the rest of the player base?
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UOKaiser
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Ofcourse. You just got to get to them before Me or the others do. Though I only concentrate on certain items. So it depends what items you search for.
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UOKaiser
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Simple. They will have to get used to paying extremly high prices which i beleive they should anyway most of the playerbase have enough gold to burn. There will be no more little niches that they can get deals unless they become 24x7 searchers. Of course they have to compete with the websites who do sell items for cash as well. They are always at it 24/7 buying products to sell for cash. The websites compete with people like me who resell only for gold. So that could also be a problem for us. The websites will most likely dominate the market then.
Though of course people malls and realstate in gate vender houses luna houses, zento homes, dungeon homes etc.. will plummet. As venders in those areas doesn't matter. Advertising by runes or by word will no longer matter so people will be more disconected fom each other. Vender rentals will be useless unless your real home is in another shard. Many other events that I cannot foresea that may come out of this.
I disagree with a lot of this. I think that the community at large would benefit from a universal search function, though I believe the purchase decision SHOULD occur at the vendor's actual location. I think the search function should act like a runebook, which requires you have sufficient reagents or a scroll to recall to the vendor's location.
If the consequences of a real-time economy are too scary to some (the potential of middle-man markup), maybe the universal search function could be optional. You have to decide at the moment you place your vendor whether or not to list that vendor's items on the universal search function.
But I think to say that a universal search function is a unilaterally bad idea that shouldn't be explored is probably a little conservative. I'd love to be able to find great new vendors without having to spend hours aimlessly in the woods hoping to blindly stumble across a vendor who happens to have what I want. Keep purchases local. Make the universal listing optional for those who don't want to be bought-out by markup vendors. Just make it a little easier for those of us who don't mind.
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Mehelenya
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How about the good old Way? You have a House, you place Vendors and you Gate there or Drop Runes to your Shop? We don't need a new system, cause if you could just use a Board to search for Items, what do you think would happens then? Shops would end like in WoW the Auctionhouse. Oh damn you made your Stuff 1 gold cheaper as i did ... it will end in a stupid Vendor Price War. And every normal Shop Owner will be the Looser. I don't want to sell my Kegs for 500 Gold just because the other Shops makes that to get rid of them.
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UOKaiser
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You can use the search function and search luna if you need something without traveling around now. I can find anything like that. I have many runebooks full of shops outside of luna lands and a spreadsheet on what they sell,when they stock and there usual rates for items to resell. Im just one person. Many others have much better systems than I have. My competition is still fierce. You entitled to your opinion. I only base my conclusions from what I know I will do and the others will do. The playerbase will have to deal with it or join it. So I stay neutral in this with leaning more to no search system for the continued betterment as Uo as a whole and player interaction, as well as keeping things away from being similar to simple and easy without effort.I disagree with a lot of this. I think that the community at large would benefit from a universal search function, though I believe the purchase decision SHOULD occur at the vendor's actual location. I think the search function should act like a runebook, which requires you have sufficient reagents or a scroll to recall to the vendor's location.
If the consequences of a real-time economy are too scary to some (the potential of middle-man markup), maybe the universal search function could be optional. You have to decide at the moment you place your vendor whether or not to list that vendor's items on the universal search function.
But I think to say that a universal search function is a unilaterally bad idea that shouldn't be explored is probably a little conservative. I'd love to be able to find great new vendors without having to spend hours aimlessly in the woods hoping to blindly stumble across a vendor who happens to have what I want. Keep purchases local. Make the universal listing optional for those who don't want to be bought-out by markup vendors. Just make it a little easier for those of us who don't mind.
My little shop in the boondocks gets dedicated traffic because people like deals. Enough traffic to get rid of my underpriced overstocked items for lower price and slow enough so I don't have to concetrate too much on it and I can concetrate on rented venders in popular spots
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And every Luna Shop Owner will be the Loser.
There, fixed it for you.
And every Luna Shop Owner will be the Loser.
There, fixed it for you.
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Zodia
Guest
Re: UO Auction House (as in World of Warcraft)
Make it a secondary choice to Luna. That would be sweet.
YES Please.
Make it a secondary choice to Luna. That would be sweet.
Shop owners will be the winner and it won't be such a pricewar.
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Prices will be fluid, they just won't be as DICTATED by Luna shops as they are now.
And sure someone COULD possibly try and play the "buy up everything below a certain price level and resell" but that's part of the game as well.
Having an easily searchable vendor system would create MUCH MORE dynamic to the market than what it is right now. As it is now everyone prices everything based on "what it costs in Luna"... instead the new system would allow it to be "what it costs around the shard".
It'd be a win for ALL buyers and sellers really as buyers would get better prices for items overall and sellers (especially those outside Luna) would be able to sell more items and have more reason to put up a vendor and draw people out from the Luna Lap.
Prices will be fluid, they just won't be as DICTATED by Luna shops as they are now.
And sure someone COULD possibly try and play the "buy up everything below a certain price level and resell" but that's part of the game as well.
Having an easily searchable vendor system would create MUCH MORE dynamic to the market than what it is right now. As it is now everyone prices everything based on "what it costs in Luna"... instead the new system would allow it to be "what it costs around the shard".
It'd be a win for ALL buyers and sellers really as buyers would get better prices for items overall and sellers (especially those outside Luna) would be able to sell more items and have more reason to put up a vendor and draw people out from the Luna Lap.
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UOKaiser
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It will happen. I compete with others buying out luna almost everyday to resell in luna. This will make it much easier for us to buy out all low priced venders in sosaria that we may of not known about within minutes recall buy recall buy etc... Thats a big plus for me. Still think the others that don't do this will be in trouble if they don't like making gold. Everyone will price higher once everything is bought out in the UO lands and Place them on there venders for the higher price to keep up with everyone else. Good thing also prices are just too low for the amount of wealth in UO. Luna still be the focal point though zento will also get more popular. Not many places you can go and you have that many venders in one area so it's natural for those places to get the most traffic.
Add to this we don't have a million players per shard everything is easily controlable.
Erhm, hello? Its a win-win-win situation
Those with vendors far out win because they get everything sold.
Those who resell win because they get a profit margin.
Those who buy win because they have everything available in large quantities, though can still make good deals by checking the "board" more frequently.
Everyone wins.
Those with vendors far out win because they get everything sold.
Those who resell win because they get a profit margin.
Those who buy win because they have everything available in large quantities, though can still make good deals by checking the "board" more frequently.
Everyone wins.
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UOKaiser
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Which is a sign of the people born in the last generation. Everything from games to food is easily available without work. I succumbd to this as well these past few years just a sign of the times.
Or maybe its just because in these times we all have so many things to do that we really don't like to do tedious stupid things like we had time for once.
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AND3R
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Keep in mind that the buy low sell high merchants would surely use this as another tool to boost the prices of stock even higher making those everday items even more expensive...what do we really wish to accomplish here?
Is it really THAT hard to find what we need? The more you ask from the game the more you lose from it.
I find it rather disturbing that the player(s) are requesting yet another avenue to line their pockets. We should be asking the devs to spend their time and efforts in repairing the known bad mechanics of UO, building a NEW fan/player base and encouraging our veteran players to pass on the knowledge within their ranks to promote a more vibrant UO.
*hits the Piers Morgan X buzzer*
Thats a "No" from me.
Is it really THAT hard to find what we need? The more you ask from the game the more you lose from it.
I find it rather disturbing that the player(s) are requesting yet another avenue to line their pockets. We should be asking the devs to spend their time and efforts in repairing the known bad mechanics of UO, building a NEW fan/player base and encouraging our veteran players to pass on the knowledge within their ranks to promote a more vibrant UO.
*hits the Piers Morgan X buzzer*
Thats a "No" from me.