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Good Morning, Synbad.. there are a few places you can train them.. The first is pretty easy as they are just 1 slot pets..you get a tank pet like a 3slot cu..and have it attack first then put the beetle on ..This is of course is The crazed mage In the lower lvl of shame.. the 2nd is a favorite of my friend Tygrath.. The pirates on the open seas..you basicly use the same tactics... the 3rd is if you have friends or a 2nd account... You head down to underworld to the boss Navrey ...bare in mind if you use this method your pet must have at least 80 wrest skill and tactics for it to hit enough for the gains to be effective....You will find the 1st and 2nd lvls of the new system abit painful as they are coded to only gains .7-1.2 at max every given gain...but 3 to 4 will be super fast.. like 20-40 mins fast...and 4 to 5 is fairly steady too.. but slower then 3 to 4 as each monster will only offer 25% before ya have to either kill and respawn a new copy of that monster or move on to the another one... for the 2-5 there is always another mage in the heart of shame called the burning mage... he has a burning aura and a deadly breath attack..but offers good gains.. if you use him stay at range and heal your pet and don't forget to have taming mastery rolling... you can expect more then a few deaths in the first stages of a bugs training..but keep heart and know its fully worth the effort... when you reach 100% for the first time the only major advice I can offer is.. when you add its moves use this order or they will not all fit.. it bugs and comes up short... Exp goo(if you want the aoe build),armor ignore, Rune corruption, Poison. The poison is not required but its free damage that cost no mana and stops many low to mid lvl monsters from healing... Hope this helps mate.. there are many many other places to train them as well.. these are just the ones I enjoy... if you have anymore questions feel free to post or ask.. =^-^=
If you have high seas, pirates from the pirate ships, just have a stronger 2-4 slot pet do the tanking. This is the quickest way, imo.
Otherwise, having a stronger pet tank at the crazed mage in shame. This takes longer than pirates, it doesn't take the setup of having to find pirate ships and scuttle them. But then you also don't get the booty.
very helpful.. thanks
thank you
With my PP mare done, I'm moving on to my next project, a fire beetle.
My normal way is to skill train a pet up a bit before I start training. I'm doing that right now, but I'm wondering if I would be better off getting at least one round of training done first. And if that is the case, would it be better for me to dump the first round points into hp and str?
My plan for specials/magics is armor ignore, rune corruption and poison (maybe). I'm a little iffy on poison given the current state of poisoning on pets that don't have it naturally. So, is it worth the 100 points or not?
My normal way is to skill train a pet up a bit before I start training. I'm doing that right now, but I'm wondering if I would be better off getting at least one round of training done first. And if that is the case, would it be better for me to dump the first round points into hp and str?
My plan for specials/magics is armor ignore, rune corruption and poison (maybe). I'm a little iffy on poison given the current state of poisoning on pets that don't have it naturally. So, is it worth the 100 points or not?
As with all pets, set the resists, stam. dex and regens to make training go faster.
similar to: Choosing points for a Lesser Hiryu Slots 1 thru 4
similar to: Choosing points for a Lesser Hiryu Slots 1 thru 4
Sorry, I forgot to mention resists (that’s one of the first things I fix on every pet in the first round). I don’t mind spending more to get stam and dex to 150 (my beetle is currently 60). But with 100 hp, wouldn’t it be better to bump hp up a bit and do regens on the next round, Maybe I’m wrong but 100 hp could be dicey while training for the next few levels?
*edit* I do plan to add AI and RC. I’m wondering if poisoning is worth grabbing, thoughts?
*edit* fixed a wording error.
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If you set the resists first, you dont need to have HP while training. I use the mage for those. You will increse the HP at some point. Just dont forget the resists next time.
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You mis-understand how Armor Ignore works.
If I remember correctly, Armor Ignore makes a 90% of normal (direct) damage range attack vs. 0 resists. That the displayed damage range, modified by strength, anatomy and tactics bonuses, bonuses of Damage increase (DI, slayer, etc. for weapons), etc.
The elemental spread of the pet's normal damage (or the weapon, for AI with a weapon in the hands of a dexxer) is totally ignored in the process, going just by the listed modifiers. And, RC seems to put that 0% target resist into negatives, since an AI landing after RC seems to do more damage than either alone.
I fixed my post for a wording error. I hadn’t begun training the beetle yet
It would’ve been tough trying to keep the beetle alive last Sunday. She wasn’t bonded yet, which was odd as I tamed the previous weekend Saturday. I also only get to play on weekends.
Once I get started, and get through the first round, I’m sure it’ll go fairly fast
Once I get started, and get through the first round, I’m sure it’ll go fairly fast
RC will halve resists, so it cannot take them into the negative. You may be thinking of Discord, which can take resists into the negative.
However, Armor Ignore will not hit harder on a mob with negative resists, since the Armor Ignore attack is based on 90% damage against 0 resist always. The damage difference you were seeing may be due to the natural damage spread of the pet, or they may have been non-armor ignore hits.
This can be testing right now on TC1. @Khaelor got Bleak to spawn a drone there for damage testing. When discorded, the drone has -28 resists and you can see the difference on normal hits; however when an armor ignore hits, there is no damage bonus from the negative resists:
Armor Ignore Hit:
Normal Hit:
The real nice thing about this drone is it shows the pre-resist and actual damage, so you can see how resist are affecting your damage.
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I'm really not sure what it is, other than I see ranges around 120 +/- 10 on roof when one thing is active (AI), then suddenly get a spike about 160, which would seem to be more than just AI affecting it. and both are well after the discord went on, or on a VB which can't be discoed.
I've recently returned and have started training all types of pets. For the low HP pets (1 or 2 slots) I always bring a well trained 3 or 4 slot pet to tank. I train them all on the crazed mage. I usually start training immediately after taming and rarely wait for them to bond.
To get to 100% on the first round can take a couple of days, but it goes quicker after each round. I always set resists to where I want and put the rest into HP then STR then Mana. I didn't put AI on my fire beetle until the 2nd round and put both Rune Corrupt and Poisoning on in the last round.
To get to 100% on the first round can take a couple of days, but it goes quicker after each round. I always set resists to where I want and put the rest into HP then STR then Mana. I didn't put AI on my fire beetle until the 2nd round and put both Rune Corrupt and Poisoning on in the last round.
For those who don't want to bring a tank, since gains for training % seem to come quicker on the pet receiving the hits, we prefer to train our low level pets against either the Renowned Ratmen Bosses in the Cavern of the Discarded, or on a Wrong Cave Troll. Each of those give greatly gains (during power hour), and do caress more than hit, so good to get that first level done. Although Vitavi has some damage spikes with Spell Plague which can get tricky, and another thing to be careful with is others luring a horde of Courtiers that make your healing challenging. Rakktavi seems to spawn those nasty scorpions, so also not ideal when training a 1 slot pet. Needing a cure at the wrong time can be deadly.
Have an easier way, you can tank crazed with a firebettle 1 slot, just have a high MR and make a macro
Cast poison field 'enemy' (mage)
Cast Greater heal 'pet'(firebeetle)
have like 1% chance of get pet poisoned then you quick cure pet and return to macro.
you can train a pet from lv1-5 on crazed mage in less then 2 hours doing this (have an archer and a 5 slot pet to kill the mage when stop gains from the mob)
my best time lv1-5 was 1:30 i dont even left crazed mage area to train pet, i was with 2 accounts (1 tammer and 1 mystic warrior (with healing)) so when i got 100% with the pet i just mount in it and let the warrior destroy the mob, when 35% hp i wod the mob with my tammer and start over.
You can do even faster if you have friends to help you killing the crazed when needed, and if you are 3slot allready when the crazed is on cd get some % on the unbound vortex until the crazed respawn
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The original way I listed up there was a rather lazy way, didnt require anything from the player.
We use the poison method at crazed mages for other low resist pets, not beetles. Beetles we have an even quicker method that trains 3 in the time it takes to train 1, hint it has to do with Allosaurus.
The same trick we use to train chiv on allosaurus, but ye.
Not the same thing.
Ty i will research about
As for skill training a Beetle, the first thing i usually do after they bond, is i get them up to GM Resist with Spectral Spellbinders at New Haven. Once they GM Resist, let the Spectral Spellbinders continue to cast on it, and the Beetle will quickly gain up to 125 STR/DEX. The 125 DEX helps them gain the melee skills faster. I then take the Beetle to Gregorio, disarm him, then have the Beetle attack Gregorio. Once the Beetle is in the 50s Wrest/Tact, i then Discord the Beetle, and he'll gain all the way up into the 70s/80s in Wrest/Tact. Then i take him to the Shadow Ore Ele in Yomotsu Mines, have another pet tank the Ele, then get the Beetle up to GM Wrest/Tact on the Ele. After then, is when i level their slots.
2 slot Najasaurus tanking, 3 Beetles, running "As One".
Close. Same premise, but we don't use a Naja.