Third Party Cheat Detection - Two Strikes

[Lord Chaos]

So, you say it's an unfair advantage, to which someone takes that as you saying it's a cheat.
You deny that you called it a cheat and restate "unfair advantage", to which someone pulls out a definition of "cheat" including "unfair advantage".
So, then you say it's a cheat, which is exactly what you said you weren't saying.

Keeping up with your cyclic arguments makes my head spin.

I don't consider an unfair advantage cheating on its own. I never said it was cheating, it was others that said it was cheating.

But thanks then for proving that the EC is cheating, as it gives an unfair advantage over the CC, lol. I don't even consider it cheating, only that it legalized features in the past and CC considered cheating.

 

[Lord Chaos]

" I am not fine with people threatening my lazy, selfish, self centered play style."

Not the one with self centered game destroying play styles, thats you guys.

I hope your the first to go when it goes live, so I can hear all your excuses. Its Ok we know your skerrd!

I can garantee you that unless it messes up (which lol, all things considering isn't unlikely), then I am not going anywhere. Though I will be tempted to simply go back to idly maintaining accounts for the houses sake, as many events on my shard will go away, many legit people will end up quitting as well, all along with the non-legit ones, so almost no one left to play with and the player communities I frequent will disintegrate.

 

[Lord Chaos]

A person that's handicapped would figure out a way to play without using a cheat program. If they had to cheat in order to do something, most wouldn't do it, as most handicapped people are used to fighting adversity, and have a very strong will to succeed at having a high degree of normalcy in their lives.

You don't know jack about handicapped people. Leave them out of your examples as your statements are a gross insult.

You know even less about them and are just flinging out blanket statements. A person with a handicap will use whatever they feel like they can use that will elevate them to a normal game play level.

What you're saying is a joke, because then a handicapped person wouldn't use an N52 for instance, as they'd prefer "fighting adversity".

Take as an example a mentally handicapped person who can't focus on more than a few single things without getting confused and disoriented, how exactly is he supposed to get normal game play on the level of the rest of us? Right, he fights the problem and solves it by using a script to take care of the multitasking while he takes care of the immediate game play like moving and fighting.

Funny that they're allowed to use tools, as long as YOU approve of them.

 

[Connor_Graham]

You know even less about them and are just flinging out blanket statements. A person with a handicap will use whatever they feel like they can use that will elevate them to a normal game play level.

Your ignorance is astounding. I'm one of them, so don't even presume to tell me what I would or would not do, as someone that isn't handicapped themselves has no ****ing clue what it's like or what someone that's handicapped has to go through just to get through each day.

What you're saying is a joke, because then a handicapped person wouldn't use an N52 for instance, as they'd prefer "fighting adversity".

The only people laughing are the ones laughing at you and your continued ignorance.

Take as an example a mentally handicapped person who can't focus on more than a few single things without getting confused and disoriented, how exactly is he supposed to get normal game play on the level of the rest of us? Right, he fights the problem and solves it by using a script to take care of the multitasking while he takes care of the immediate game play like moving and fighting.

And yet more examples of ignorance....

Funny that they're allowed to use tools, as long as YOU approve of them.

No, what's funny is that I'm speaking from experience, while you're speaking from your ass.

 

[Lord Chaos]

Your ignorance is astounding. I'm one of them, so don't even presume to tell me what I would or would not do, as someone that isn't handicapped themselves has no ****ing clue what it's like or what someone that's handicapped has to go through just to get through each day.

YOU do not speak for all other handicapped, even if you are one. Secondly, you have no idea what I am or am not, what I have been through or what I have not.

And yet more examples of ignorance....

It was a real example of a real UO player. So I guess if you can speak for all handicapped, then so can he.

No, what's funny is that I'm speaking from experience, while you're speaking from your ass.

You're speaking of your OWN experience, you are ONE person, you do not speak for every other physical and mentally handicapped person in the world.

 

[Connor_Graham]

YOU do not speak for all other handicapped, even if you are one. Secondly, you have no idea what I am or am not, what I have been through or what I have not.



It was a real example of a real UO player. So I guess if you can speak for all handicapped, then so can he.



You're speaking of your OWN experience, you are ONE person, you do not speak for every other physical and mentally handicapped person in the world.

No, actually I'm speaking of the experiences that every person with a physical handicap has to go through. If you were one, you'd know that, instead of spouting off more ignorance. If you happen to know one person that cheats, that's certainly not indicative of what the majority of us are doing. Claiming to have total knowledge of what people will and will not do as a whole, while not being part of that group of people, is ignorance at its most obvious. I happen to know a LOT of handicapped players, and without exception, none of them cheat, so you keep going with your 1 measly little weak person that has to cheat. The rest of us know what the real deal is.

 

[Lord Chaos]

No, actually I'm speaking of the experiences that every person with a physical handicap has to go through.

Each person handles it differently. If you were one, then you'd know that, instead of sprouting off more ignorance.

If you happen to know one person that cheats, that's certainly not indicative of what the majority of us are doing.

Actually I know many and know of even more.

Claiming to have total knowledge of what people will and will not do as a whole, while not being part of that group of people, is ignorance at its most obvious.

Oh, so a psychiatrist can't say what a mentally ill person will do, only mentally ill people can? ROFLMAO!

I happen to know a LOT of handicapped players, and without exception, none of them cheat

So you sit and watch all of them constantly while they play? You have no way of knowing if they cheat or not.

so you keep going with your 1 measly little weak person that has to cheat.

Overcoming an obstacle is not weak, its the only way he can play, just like others cannot play without their tools they need.

If they make wheelchairs illegal (as it actually is in one african country), would you then call all wheelchair users for weaklings for using a wheelchair anyway?

The rest of us know what the real deal is.

No, you are apparently clueless.

 

[ingsmsico]

wow this thread went to complete ****

 

[Connor_Graham]

Blah, blah, blah. Yes, I am apparently clueless.

Yeah......

Let me know when you actually know what you're talking about. Until then, you're nothing but a waste of time.


popps jr.......

 

[ingsmsico]

bottom line, people who are handicapped have to play under the same rules as everyone else, so let's get back to the original topic

I'm going to pull something I posted in the other thread (which was never properly discussed) over to here

there are probably 50k or less active accounts, that is a high estimate. I think there's about 20 shards. so 2500 accounts per shard. a lot of people have 1 account, a lot have 2 accounts, some have more than 2. i put the average at 2. so 2500/2 = 1250. I would say not everyone is active. I will put player activity at 66 percent (2/3). that is 825 per shard (average)

I said 50% probably have used a script in the past year. that's about 400 per shard. 8000 people.

the only hard numbers we do have is the 30 thousand registered users on the site where the program/scripts are offered. you have to be registered to download the program. (it is free registration) so if about 1/4th of registered users downloaded it at some point over the past year, my numbers could be correct.

 

[Connor_Graham]

bottom line, people who are handicapped have to play under the same rules as everyone else, so let's get back to the original topic

I'm going to pull something I posted in the other thread (which was never properly discussed) over to here

there are probably 50k or less active accounts, that is a high estimate. I think there's about 20 shards. so 2500 accounts per shard. a lot of people have 1 account, a lot have 2 accounts, some have more than 2. i put the average at 2. so 2500/2 = 1250. I would say not everyone is active. I will put player activity at 66 percent (2/3). that is 825 per shard (average)

I said 50% probably have used a script in the past year. that's about 400 per shard. 8000 people.

the only hard numbers we do have is the 30 thousand registered users on the site where the program/scripts are offered. you have to be registered to download the program. (it is free registration) so if about 1/4th of registered users downloaded it at some point over the past year, my numbers could be correct.

According to Cal, our subs are more than double what you seem to think it is. Now, as every number above is nothing more than your opinion, which is not backed up by any actual facts but instead by nothing more than your uneducated guesses, would you care to repost with something that actually has some truth to it?

 

[Petra Fyde]

wow this thread went to complete ****

I agree