Wow... are you saying a disarmed mage with no weapon skill can fight on while the dexer is going to hit him all the time? Let's see if the dexer isnt good at all and let me cast lighting and that will do hmm 15 dmg? Then I will get hit by the dexer for around 20 to 50 depending on what weapon/special he used. Dont give that 50dmg isnt possible, we have many reported 50+ dmg concussion blow and 35dmg moving shot with a prepatched quiver.
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My disarmed dexer can do damage OK. Your statement is false. I can stop mages from casting anything worth mentioning with holylight spell along even if I am disarmed. Disarmed dexer HAS to run away is false argument, it isnt true for the better dexers. You get killed in 1 mage combo I dont. You get killed by a mage with combo like exp FS FS FS I dont. Again, you cant handle on something doesnt mean it's broken, nor does it mean other, better players cant handle the same enemy.Cloak‡1283936 said:
Tactics mages are still possible but the effectiveness is reduced greatly. By playing a mage you have to time ur specials. When you attempt a special you have to completely stop your offense AND defnese bu stop casting all spells completely. And if the attempt whiffs you just lose 1 to 2 spells worth of time. Old tank mage you can toggle the special you desired and FOCUS on your casting.
OK sorry if you take it wrong. Seems like you dont have anything else constructive to mention. Sorry you dont like to come to a web forum to discuss. I wont make you reply, leave the discussion to people who cares and knows more about ingame balance.Cloak‡1283950 said:
Its got nothing to do with mages being overpowered. I played a scribe/fence mage and I have a ridiculous ability to be extremely hard to kill (e.g pull off GH in between bleed/IPY spam), so I would simply wear people down using bleed/IPY while I ran (admittedly the 2nd tier of players on Oceania are terrible pvpers). My record is 1v7, while they had dismounters - but they were horrible. I'm pretty modest too.
Well I was only pointing out that most players, well really no one, should be able to live against x number of people, what number you want to make x is a matter of opinion , I feel at about 3 or 4 it should be over for any single player. While I am aware this is not the situation, I was just simply pointing out why being able to do that would be a good example of why they wouldn't put it back on, tho also admittingly it can still be done these days, even if you can't kill any one in a 1v7 you can at least stay alive for much longer than should ever be possible in such a situation. I don't mean you personally I just mean anyone, tho you are included in "anyone".
Why? In a game where skill is dominant then a player should be able to live or kill any amount of people.
Well I was not saying you were unable to kill them, I was simply stating that generally masses > anything else. In reality the person with more people should win, granted not always the case (and hardly ever is in the game we play) but as I said it was based on realistic ideas, I have held my own against many ganks and killed the would be gankers, but I was simply stating my feeling on the matter, I have seen someone completely dominate roughly 18 people, at the Min base, my feeling on it is it should not be possible, but it does depend on the people (obviously if you can separate them and they don't rez each other I don't really count that, I mean when people work together you should have a hard time even with 2) as I said, when it gets to be about 4v1 I really believe the 1 should have close to no chance of winning. Going to stop there heh, getting tired.
Viable and realistic are really what it comes down to, its really the items needed that make things more or less viable in my opinion. 100lrc/40lmc/45hci/45dci/DI/any amount of mr/ I am sure I am forgetting some props, or right, ssi/ 3/6 casting all 70s balancing dex/str/int, Of course the real the main problem presented in this thread is that you can not toggle your special weapon moves while casting, if you can deal with that (most people can) and you can manage everything else that I stated (while I am sure I am still forgetting something, bit tired now heh) then I guess it is viable.
It is a viable template and I have one close to it. But I do not have all I needed to achieve my best preformance. Please show me a fully medable suit that has 100LRC + 40LMC + 45DCI + 45HCI + 15SDI + all 70 resists + a bow with good speed + Balance + Spell Channelling and/or Fast Cast +1 (to make it no neg).
now if u read about imbuing its only 5 total mods for anything and di counts towards that mod so u cant have godly imbued weapons your still going to have to craft example would be a mage weapon sc with no negative is already 3 mods plus add the di from craftng with armslore and ur at 4 so what is ur uber 5 mod what dci? ur still getting disarmed and dropped so dont think imbuing is going to be god of crafting and its not going to be easy to imbue up to 5 mods u still need 120 imbuing and the required ingreidents so dont put ur check book down yet
He said MAX MOD weapons, that means 5 mods at 100pct intensity. And seeing as how dexxers already pay hundreds of millions on their items I do not think the "limits" you suggested would be a big deal. Also pay attention when you post he said Dexxers, he didn't say mages. What crack addict dexxer has a mage weapon with no magery? So now you are down to 1 mod (DI) so there now add 4 other max intensity mods.
DEVs explained these mods before (mods not mod). SC-1 is a single mod and fact cast +1 is another. And according to a recent FoF all the "Hit or Miss" mods counts as 100% intensity. e.g. UBWS, SC-1, FC+1, Slayers, Balanced and so on.Cloak‡1295581 said:Btw I think SC with -1 is 50% intensity mod and SC no negative is 100% intensity mod. that means the no negative is not a mod of its own. That means you now have
-20 mage weapon/sc/15 dci/50 hla/50 hitspell <-- 5 max mods.
Sure did blow your argument out of the water
Try not to contradict yourself in every post ok?
uh, no...Runics can not have 6+ mods, in fact the most you can have is...Oh yea its 5 how could I forget that. Aside from the Recipe items Crafting is limited to the same number of mods as well, everything else. Since I have not wasted my time to craft recipe items I will take your word on them being able to have more than 5 mods.
I did not contradict myself. And apperently you have no clue how mods works. I am sorry but you really are clueless.Cloak‡1295778 said:
huh? Poorly constructed arguments will be ignored. Just because I said you contradicted yourself does not mean I said you were wrong. I told you, you can not have it both ways. You are now making an argument that does not exist, I didn't say two seperate mods are one, read what I wrote (for a third time it would seem since I stated it twice). As I said before the DI from arms lore does not count, it is not a runic made prop, if you get DI as a roll it will add 15 DI max, and you will not end up with 6 mods but only 5. Please learn how to read, and formulate arguments, and to not contradict yourself the first time around.
Good at least you admit your error. Threw out a lot of senseless opinions and false information but ok at least you see you are wrong. You are trying to make arguments on WHY you had to spit out a lot of bull**** fake/wrong info. It's ok to try to make yourself look less laughable. But yea I read your post over and over and you did say SC and FC is ONE mod and you said it twice in order to disagree with my correct info on the 2nd time for some reason. I stand faithful to everything I said in my post being 100% correct. No I "think" bullcrap. I test it and the facts then I would say something. I dont like to just spit out random stuff out of my piehole just so I can confuse others and to disagree with the facts.Cloak‡1295836 said:
Would you like him to tell you they are keeping it the same? Really there is no reason for him to post in here unless he has something meaningful to say about it, not to mention the possibility that whatever he "could" say about it, he is not allowed to say about it, basically he can not say anything about it under some conditions. But mainly my point is, no reason for him to post anything here if he has nothing meaningful to say about it. Get off your high horse. -.-