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The next global event/scenario

GalenKnighthawke

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I would like to suggest that the next global event/scenario should involve the following elements.

• Minax. It's been long enough; she needs to die already. In the single-player games she was dead in the 2nd game. And she was mentioned during In the Shadow of Virtue, and is mentioned during some of the Notary's Quests, so we know she's alive and active. Have King Dupre (and surely the next ruler should be Dupre or Shamino!) kill her with player assistance after a few months of related events. (And if you don't make Dupre the next ruler, have Dupre come out of retirement to kill her and die in the attempt so we can wrap up that thread.)

• The orcs. Orcs, and maybe savages to a lesser extent, are really the closest thing we have to barbarians at the gate in UO. They should be used more. They should be made tougher and have better loot, commensurate with their new toughness. An Orc Chopper or Orc Lord should be at least as tough as a troglodyte, if not a little tougher because presumably Orcs, created by Minax and Mondain as mockeries of life if memory serves, are smarter and are certainly more developed.

• The Orc Cave. This is a nice dungeon that's under-used even relative to the other Britannian dungeons. From spoilers posted from the patches, it appears as though a revamp of some of the oldest dungeons in the game is coming, which is cool. The Orc Cave isn't in the same league, is nowhere near as old, but perhaps it can be revamped easier as well, simply by adding more monsters and beeinf up existing monsters and their loot, commensurately. Less work than you are seemingly put into the oldest dungeons.

-Galen's player
 
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PitrGri

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greetings...

if uo is a reflection of the virtue vs anti virtue battle... then it makes absolute sense that minax is the next queen.

why?
uo became a lair for greedy jones... (no offense to the real jones)... so in a way... antivirtue > virtue.


a realm is the reflection of its inhabitants... so...

long live queen minax!!!
 
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Kayne

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I'm mostly lost when it comes to the game fiction these days so no idea about Minax Dupre and Shamino.

I certainly agree with your suggestions re orcs. They are generally smarter and more developed. Can even talk unlike most creatures. Just use LotR as an example they talked and were fairly smart. Be nice to see them used we have enough Orc Forts and the cave you mention to be able to make something of them
 

Martyna Zmuir

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Queen Minax? Really?

Sorry, but... Hells no. That pancake needs killed. She's played out and annoying at this point... Nobody knows how to write her either, she's about as scary as the cat lady on the Simpsons.

The evil ruler bit was played out with Casca... poorly. I think only GL's Casca storyline made ANY sense since his descent (or the public knowledge thereof) was gradual.

Dawn was our tragic ruler... Again, I think only GL got to actually see her rule the kingdom beyond mandated game-wide events.


The next leader needs to be strong-willed, procative, and RPed often (by EMs). Dupre/Shamino are good ideas. But under NO circumstances should it be a player...that would just lead to massive idiocy.
 
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Kayne

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The problem with getting EM's to do events and RP with these rulers is that half the time people dont attend (for various reasons) I know I never attend because the events are just the same old people going so they can get the event item and then sell it for millions.

There used to be a time this game had regular UO Herald updates with game fiction. Now we barely get updates of any kind let alone decent fiction
 

Martyna Zmuir

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the events are just the same old people going so they can get the event item and then sell it for millions.
You're playing the wrong shard then. GL events are well thought out and have been WEEKLY for 2.5+ years.

There used to be a time this game had regular UO Herald updates with game fiction. Now we barely get updates of any kind let alone decent fiction
That's because the Dev Team (who did the majority of the fiction) are horrid authors and didn't bother to proofread their work (Cal and Mark). Nor did they even seem to know UO/Ultima lore, which was REALLY annoying. The UO community ripped their fiction to shreds, even going so far as to post some rather creative parodies. When they brought in other people to do the fiction, things picked up (such as the Scalis fiction).
 
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Kayne

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You're playing the wrong shard then. GL events are well thought out and have been WEEKLY for 2.5+ years.



That's because the Dev Team (who did the majority of the fiction) are horrid authors and didn't bother to proofread their work (Cal and Mark). Nor did they even seem to know UO/Ultima lore, which was REALLY annoying. The UO community ripped their fiction to shreds, even going so far as to post some rather creative parodies. When they brought in other people to do the fiction, things picked up (such as the Scalis fiction).
If thats the case I may have to come visit GL with one of the chars I have there and see how the events go. Though being an american shard the times are likely to be middle of the night for me
 

Martyna Zmuir

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They are genarally at 8pm CST. There is one this Friday...

The weekly events are on Tuesdays.
 
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Trebr Drab

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I don't go to GL's events. Not because of any particular problem, just that I'm not too excited about the way UO is going on this score. But from what I've seen that I just ran across, they really do a fantastic job.

One of my main grievances with events as they are run now, is that they don't feel like they are very strongly tied to the game. They feel separate somehow, like a private (but open to the public) party thing.

I wish UO would make a stronger effort to tie the current system into the game, make it more meaningful. And if I may, I wouldn't mind if the GL EMs were at the lead in this. I miss the days of the Trinsic Invasions, when the plot felt like an important part of the world of Sosaria.

And I'm tired of a few players complaining and causing these things to be quarantined off from the world of Sosaria.
 

Mirt

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I love the idea about using orcs and savages more. Killing off Minax would be great.
 
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Woodsman

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The problem with getting EM's to do events and RP with these rulers is that half the time people dont attend (for various reasons) I know I never attend because the events are just the same old people going so they can get the event item and then sell it for millions.

There used to be a time this game had regular UO Herald updates with game fiction. Now we barely get updates of any kind let alone decent fiction
Going by the Herald, there are no EM events.

But there appear to be a lot in Japan when you look at their website.

They even post screenshots of their events, such as a story from today about an EM event
 
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Kayne

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I know that is the case woodsman. Except the events are always posted on Europa's forum by our news manager. So i do know they happen. But I agree entirely that our herald is terrible and pretty pointless compared with japans
 

GalenKnighthawke

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Queen Minax would be a bad idea for the reasons Martyna's player's pointed out. We've had our evil ruler: Casca.

For one of the maps to fall to evil somehow, become incredibly dangerous, and be at open war with Britannia I guess wouldn't be such a bad thing, save for the inevitable fact that some players' wanting to join the evil side would cause problems at EM events and give a means for RP griefing! But similar things can, and do, happen now, so I reckon it's not much different.

But the main map has had its evil ruler, and its tragic ruler.

I shouldn't have raised the issue of the new ruler at all, I guess, it just kind hit me "wouldn't it be neat of we had King Dupre and his first major act was killing Minax?" So I tossed it into a post that could easily have not mentioned that issue.

-Galen's player
 
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PitrGri

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Well... being an immortal she-devil... she could simply control a small number of trammel nobles and go for power... creating a small number of concerned citizens that represent their towns... and then take over power... quietly pushing aside the commander of the royal britannian guard.

(this is my view of the current catskills em plot... great one too!)
 

Promathia

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Wasn't the latest lore suggesting Minax was trapped in some other realm?
 

Martyna Zmuir

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Minax was trapped in Felucca by Nystul as part of the creation of Trammel. However, she was able to astral project for a while using one of the shards of the Gem of Immortality. The shard was taken from her in Tram and she lost the ability to affect the facet.

That shard was retconned into the Crystal of Duplicity for every event from the Treasures of Ricardo to the kicking of Virtuebane off the shards. It is actually one of the major plot holes of that arc.
 

Promathia

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Minax was trapped in Felucca by Nystul as part of the creation of Trammel. However, she was able to astral project for a while using one of the shards of the Gem of Immortality. The shard was taken from her in Tram and she lost the ability to affect the facet.

That shard was retconned into the Crystal of Duplicity for every event from the Treasures of Ricardo to the kicking of Virtuebane off the shards. It is actually one of the major plot holes of that arc.
No I know this, but during that whole Shackled Demon global event arc, it was suggested she was after some kind of artifact in a different realm and was stuck there (Or something along those lines)
 

GalenKnighthawke

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No I know this, but during that whole Shackled Demon global event arc, it was suggested she was after some kind of artifact in a different realm and was stuck there (Or something along those lines)
All I remember is the Unshackled ["unshacked" on some shards] Demon saying something like that Minax had left the world.

I frankly always thought the Unshackled Demon was wrong or lying.

At any rate the most recent information we have has her as alive and active.

• She was involved in the Treasures of Ricardo thing. (Where, among other things, we found out she's something of a makeup *****.)

• She's mentioned in various things related to the Notary's Quests in Britain and the related Travesty Peerless.

-Galen's player
 
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Trebr Drab

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What was it about an artifact, a sword I think, that the Unshackled Demon was involved with gaining for Minax?
 
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