The new quest

[Lord Chaos]

So anyone care to explain how to get these things you need to gather?

The Dark Wisp Orb is easy enough to find (though not easy to obtain, even with lots of players around)

The others I take it is from the new lands, though no idea how and where to get them, its fairly obtuse to say the least.

Between questing, training skills, reworking houses/gear, doing old content, its really getting hard to cram down time to do so much research.

 

[omgmir]

Are you serious?

It's not like there's 10 other posts about this exact same thing on the first page let alone a Herald post. No wonder you have 8,000 posts in under 2 years.

Funny i'm a 1 week old newbie again and had no problems being one of the first if not the first person on my server to do all available parts of the quest last night but you a 'vet' want your hand held.

 

[Lord Chaos]

Funny i'm a 1 week old newbie again and had no problems being one of the first if not the first person on my server to do all available parts of the quest last night but you a 'vet' want your hand held.

Join date 2006?

1 week old newbie? And within a week you already had gear, developed character and knowledge enough to complete this in record time? uhm, ROFL.

And yes, exactly a vet needs hands held, I have no idea about SA or any of the newer content, was not around for it.

 

[Shanny]

Really please read the other threads on the new quest. We all have to take the time to read the info that is readily available to all of us. No sense in clogging up the boards with 10 threads on the same thing. Before you know it we will think you are related to popps!

 

[Trevelyan]

The serpents egg I got from the abyss, left side - theres a bunch of snake holes and you can double click them to have a chance to get an egg (or get frozen temporarily and ganked by snakes).

The seed, from a tree at the top. Just dont "use" it.

 

[Lord Chaos]

Really please read the other threads on the new quest. We all have to take the time to read the info that is readily available to all of us. No sense in clogging up the boards with 10 threads on the same thing. Before you know it we will think you are related to popps!

There aren't 10 threads to this particular topic at all.

Its not readily available when its buried deep somewhere in posts in perhaps the massive thread or somewhere else (where people don't answer questions anyway)

 

[Trebr Drab]

The serpents egg I got from the abyss, left side - theres a bunch of snake holes and you can double click them to have a chance to get an egg (or get frozen temporarily and ganked by snakes).

The seed, from a tree at the top. Just dont "use" it.

Don't you have to be a thief or something to get those eggs from the snake nests?

 

[Lord Chaos]

The serpents egg I got from the abyss, left side - theres a bunch of snake holes and you can double click them to have a chance to get an egg (or get frozen temporarily and ganked by snakes).

The seed, from a tree at the top. Just dont "use" it.

I have no idea how to even get to the Abyss...went to fire isle, but the area is inaccessible.

 

[Picus at the office]

Don't feed the troll.

 

[Flutter]

You're really not even trying to get the info on your own LC, that's why people are give you the answers you are getting.
There is even a whole SA forum.
Here's a few faq links http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=154339

 

[Lord Chaos]

You're really not even trying to get the info on your own LC

Because I'd rather actually play the game, then spending most of the time researching information buried all over the place.

But thanks to the few people who tried to be helpful instead of smart-asses.

 

[Shanny]

Because I'd rather actually play the game, then spending most of the time researching information buried all over the place.

But thanks to the few people who tried to be helpful instead of smart-asses.

So you want others to take their time away from playing to answer your questions that are already answered in other threads so you miss as little as possible play time. How thoughtful.

 

[phantus]

Because I'd rather actually play the game, then spending most of the time researching information buried all over the place.

But thanks to the few people who tried to be helpful instead of smart-asses.

Actually, you are the ass. The information to do this quest is easily attainable. The first few posters could have linked you to the info but you could have looked for them yourself as everyone else has already said.

 

[Lord Chaos]

So you want others to take their time away from playing to answer your questions that are already answered in other threads so you miss as little as possible play time. How thoughtful.

I don't see it answered in other threads. Either way, that tiny amount of time spent type in a reply when they're already on the forum is insignificant compared to the massive amount of time needed to research all of these things.

And really, I don't give a .... about your opinion on it, go troll another thread.

 

[omgmir]

Join date 2006?

1 week old newbie? And within a week you already had gear, developed character and knowledge enough to complete this in record time? uhm, ROFL.

And yes, exactly a vet needs hands held, I have no idea about SA or any of the newer content, was not around for it.

Yes. Within a week I have gear, and a developed character to complete this quest. The knowledge is on these forums and uoguide for people who actually put more than 5 seconds of time into something before making a thread about it.

You know why I was able to do this? Because it's not hard. Read quest, type in words at uoguide or stratics forum search, read a couple sentences, profit.

Yes join date 2006, notice my post count. Feel free to look through my post dates you will see there weren't any between last week and 2006.

 

[Lord Chaos]

Actually, you are the ass. The information to do this quest is easily attainable.

Its not easily attainable for someone who hasn't been around for SA or even been in any of the areas or have any knowledge of any such content.

Instead of wasting their time trolling, they could have done like a few nice community members have done and actually answer the freaking questions.

 

[Lord Chaos]

Yes. Within a week I have gear, and a developed character to complete this quest.

Hello mr. scripter/buyer.

So full of it.

 

[Stupid Miner]

Because I'd rather actually play the game, then spending most of the time researching information buried all over the place.

But thanks to the few people who tried to be helpful instead of smart-asses.

You know you end up spending a lot more time asking on the boards, responding to replies, etc. etc. than it takes to research most stuff
... just saying.

 

[frostbolt]

there is an astounding amount of trolling going on in this thread

in fact a bunch of trolls in this thread were from the other thread that trolled your complaint about how events like this arnt announced until the day after they start
(which is a legitimate complaint)

i dont know what youve posted in your 5000 posts but im just guessing people just dont like you very much.

 

[the 4th man]

The one other post on Uhall about this quest is pretty jumbled up, I don't blame him for asking. Don't like it?. oh well.

By the way, there's more posts about baskets so far. Also, to the original poster, unless you're looking to get a house in the abyss, (whooopeeee)

It's a lame quest, because the current reward at the end of pt 2 is a joke.

later

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

For those readers who may not realize why this post is getting the hostility it's getting, click on the following links.

Here, this poster trashes the quest, expressing an alarming bitterness, and appears to assume things about the quest that aren't true and that he could have discovered aren't true upon the most minimal readings of the thread he posted in. (He seemed to think it was a "gather 5,000 of such and such an item" kind of quest, which it clearly wasn't, and if he'd actually read the thread he'd have known that.) He also expressed his horror that *gasp* there are rewards for doing the quest!!

Here, he describes the event as being "thrown . . . right in my face after they already started," neglecting to note that there's plenty of other things to do if he doesn't feel like working the event.

Here, he calls the rewards for the quest "stupid," bizarrely stating that the items are available "for a very short period of time to a few" (despite the fact that the quest can be done by any character capable of doing the quest, multiple times a day, and if your character isn't up to snuff enough to do the quest, it's best that that character stay out of the Abyss let alone try to get a house there), and says "there's little to no warning for people [about the event], especially those who are not on Stratics or don't sit checking every day." He appears to not check the UO main site either, because the quest was announced there and has been hinted at, there and on Stratics, many times before.

And, after all that, he turns around and asks for special help on a quest he's expressed an active disinterest in. (And think about how much energy it takes for him to express an active disinterest in something, when disinterest is usually by definition passive.) The post smacked of trolling.

Hence, the negative reaction.

And hence my not offering information despite the fact that normally I'm all over such requests.

To paraphrase, and add to, Stupid Miner's comments, he's spent way more time trolling than it would have taken to read the other threads and learn the information he's making special requests for.

-Galen's player

 

[omgmir]

It's a lame quest, because the current reward at the end of pt 2 is a joke.

http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=189844

...right.

 

[Lord Chaos]

You know you end up spending a lot more time asking on the boards, responding to replies, etc. etc. than it takes to research most stuff
... just saying.

Actually I was anticipating just that reply. The time I spent researching (and got to the limited state I am now) still exceeds the time spent on this thread by a factor of nearly 10. (and thats literally and measured)

But as others have noted, there's a lot of trolling going on here, too bad the Stratics mods have joined in on it instead of either staying quiet or helping.

 

[Lord Chaos]

For those readers who may not realize why this post is getting the hostility it's getting, click on the following links.

For those readers who may not realize it, a lot of people on Stratics have an axe to grind.

Here, this poster trashes the quest, expressing an alarming bitterness, and appears to assume things about the quest that aren't true and that he could have discovered aren't true upon the most minimal readings of the thread he posted in. (He seemed to think it was a "gather 5,000 of such and such an item" kind of quest, which it clearly wasn't, and if he'd actually read the thread he'd have known that.) He also expressed his horror that *gasp* there are rewards for doing the quest!!

I said nothing about it being a gathering quest and my complaints about the events were (as others have noted) legitimate.

Here, he describes the event as being "thrown . . . right in my face after they already started," neglecting to note that there's plenty of other things to do if he doesn't feel like working the event.

So it wasn't announced the day after it had actually started? It seems like I am not the one having problems reading.

[uote]Here, he calls the rewards for the quest "stupid," bizarrely stating that the items are available "for a very short period of time to a few" (despite the fact that the quest can be done by any character capable of doing the quest, multiple times a day, and if your character isn't up to snuff enough to do the quest, it's best that that character stay out of the Abyss let alone try to get a house there), and says "there's little to no warning for people [about the event], especially those who are not on Stratics or don't sit checking every day." He appears to not check the UO main site either, because the quest was announced there and has been hinted at, there and on Stratics, many times before.[/quote]

Yes, the rewards are stupid, just more trying to overdo whats already there, creating a cycle of endlessly needing more powerful challenges, which fewer and fewer can participate in.

The quest was fully announced on the 6th...and checking the UO site daily is pretty damn stupid too, a totally lame dev decision.

And nothing else you say negate anything I say...you're simply grinding your axe because you have a grudge.

And, after all that, he turns around and asks for special help on a quest he's expressed an active disinterest in. (And think about how much energy it takes for him to express an active disinterest in something, when disinterest is usually by definition passive.) The post smacked of trolling.

1. I didn't express disinterest, I said it was not a good way it was handled.
2. being disinterested in something doesn't mean you can't be active in criticizing it.
3. There was no trolling, these were real questions.

Hence, the negative reaction.

And hence my not offering information despite the fact that normally I'm all over such requests.

The reason why several express negative reactions is because they have something personally against me...like you for instance.

[qoute]To paraphrase, and add to, Stupid Miner's comments, he's spent way more time trolling than it would have taken to read the other threads and learn the information he's making special requests for.[/QUOTE]

As already stated, thats blatant BS.

 

[frostbolt]

it sounds more like he's angry that a limited time event started and only a few people knew about it till the day after. from those quotes

it kind of sounds more like a complaint about em events in general, similarly to people who complain about people who spend their time rezing not getting rewarded for doing so, or that em events shouldnt reward items and that people should be going for "fun" not loot

rather than trashing the event and then asking for help

well at least that is my opinion anyway,

im getting out of this thread before i get stuck in a troll war in which i will not benefit from.

 

[Aristillus]

Actually I was anticipating just that reply. The time I spent researching (and got to the limited state I am now) still exceeds the time spent on this thread by a factor of nearly 10. (and thats literally and measured)

How long does it take to search Dark Wisp, Medusa Eggs, and Silver Sapling (I am just assuming you can find a lantern?)

I mean these quest are easy without sites like Stratics and UOguide.

And the funny thing is some of the people you say are trolling are some very helpful contributors to some of these guides.

 

[Airhaun]

Just stopped in on MY way to researching the quest and trying to add to the data I've already acquired.

Please rename this thread or close it and save everybody a lot of time they waste posting here.

On to more research. Thanks Bye!

 

[Surgeries]

Because I'd rather actually play the game, then spending most of the time researching information buried all over the place.

But thanks to the few people who tried to be helpful instead of smart-asses.

Actually, you are the ass. The information to do this quest is easily attainable. The first few posters could have linked you to the info but you could have looked for them yourself as everyone else has already said.

Friggin




/Signed.

 

[GarthGrey]

For those readers who may not realize why this post is getting the hostility it's getting, click on the following links.

Here, this poster trashes the quest, expressing an alarming bitterness, and appears to assume things about the quest that aren't true and that he could have discovered aren't true upon the most minimal readings of the thread he posted in. (He seemed to think it was a "gather 5,000 of such and such an item" kind of quest, which it clearly wasn't, and if he'd actually read the thread he'd have known that.) He also expressed his horror that *gasp* there are rewards for doing the quest!!

Here, he describes the event as being "thrown . . . right in my face after they already started," neglecting to note that there's plenty of other things to do if he doesn't feel like working the event.

Here, he calls the rewards for the quest "stupid," bizarrely stating that the items are available "for a very short period of time to a few" (despite the fact that the quest can be done by any character capable of doing the quest, multiple times a day, and if your character isn't up to snuff enough to do the quest, it's best that that character stay out of the Abyss let alone try to get a house there), and says "there's little to no warning for people [about the event], especially those who are not on Stratics or don't sit checking every day." He appears to not check the UO main site either, because the quest was announced there and has been hinted at, there and on Stratics, many times before.

And, after all that, he turns around and asks for special help on a quest he's expressed an active disinterest in. (And think about how much energy it takes for him to express an active disinterest in something, when disinterest is usually by definition passive.) The post smacked of trolling.

Hence, the negative reaction.

And hence my not offering information despite the fact that normally I'm all over such requests.

To paraphrase, and add to, Stupid Miner's comments, he's spent way more time trolling than it would have taken to read the other threads and learn the information he's making special requests for.

-Galen's player

Galen, you're on these boards practically 24/7, but it doesn't make your opinions valuable.

 

[pacific cruiser]

WOW i cant believe i just wasted all this time rereading this...:loser:

 

[xStrikerx]

Hmm, my first time going to the Abyss was today for this quest. I found the entrance to the underworld, gained access to the abyss, completed the quest for the lantern, searched the abyss with the lantern and planted the crystal, and got my reward (trash) in about 2 hours (with the help of uoguide and a map). Not really hard. I even had to search for some things (uoguide says to go to Medusa...uh...where is that?).

 

[Kiminality]

For those readers who may not realize it, a lot of people on Stratics have an axe to grind.

Pots and kettles, and all that stuff.

Let's summarise:
1.) You're obnoxious a lot of the time.
2.) You refuse to do the legwork yourself, expecting other people to hold your hand whenever you have a question.
3.) You show very little appreciation when people answer your questions.

Predictably, people have grown tired of your style.
The problem does not lie with them.

 

[Uvtha]

Not to keep this going but, the information is Not hard to find. You could, as I did, do a google search, for the items (egg: in the abyss near Medusa, bring a snake charming flute if you can find one, sapling seed: also in the abyss, click the sapling) and all except for the wisp orb come up as the first hit. As for that, a search of statics (or simply clicking the "ranger of the abyss" thread) will give you that info.

The info for getting into the abyss and maps for these location in the dungeon also about 2 links down from the top on a google search.

Most of this info is from www.uoguide.com, I would suggest book marking it to avoid future incidents.

All in all the gathering of the info I didnt have (the sapling seed was all i knew how to get for sure) it took a grand total of like 5 minutes to google/uo guide/stratics surf the answers, and about 30 minutes to gather them all. My experience time wise seems to be pretty common as well.

As for your complaints about the quest, its difficulty and the rewards... First of all, you cannot punish and criticize that you don't have much time to play. The devs are designing for people who play the game. And anyways, this quest is GREAT for people who don't have much time to play, it spans a long time day wise, is repeatable, and available at all hours. You should be happy rather than angry.

Also it wasnt "sprung" on us, I knew about it before hand, I check stratics (with my other daily site checks) every morning over breakfast, takes like 3 or less minutes become abreast of any new info or events.

Rewards wise, if everyone got the rare rewards, they wouldn't be special, and rewards from events are nothing new. As the reward give outs at events go, you have to do very little to get a chance to win one in this quest. Its not like Halloween where you had to kill an uber uber monster for a chance.

All in all it seems like you are simply not putting forth the very minimal effort that everyone else in game and on the boards apparently have zero issue or difficulty putting up.

So, maybe its not the devs and all of us that are the ones being silly...

 

[Lord Chaos]

1.) You're obnoxious a lot of the time.

True, I don't bow down to the "me...me...me" crowd, so predictably it gets pissy and thinks me obnoxious.

2.) You refuse to do the legwork yourself, expecting other people to hold your hand whenever you have a question.

With very little, confusing or obtuse information out there, especially for someone not in the know of the context, legwork on some areas takes ages or doesn't even answer the question. Hence when I am stuck, I ask people here.

As in turn I actually help people here with information that others don't have. (like that you can get multiple items for the quest, residue trick, etc.)

3.) You show very little appreciation when people answer your questions.

lol? I actually show great appreciation for those who actually do help. As I've appreciated the people in this thread who helped me and got me going again with the quest.

The problem does not lie with them.

Yes, it does.

 

[Lord Chaos]

Not to keep this going but, the information is Not hard to find. You could, as I did, do a google search, for the items (egg: in the abyss near Medusa, bring a snake charming flute if you can find one, sapling seed: also in the abyss, click the sapling) and all except for the wisp orb come up as the first hit. As for that, a search of statics (or simply clicking the "ranger of the abyss" thread) will give you that info.

Google search does *NOT* give that info, it is possible that this is due to difference in different national googles or god knows what. They certainly does not come up as first hit, I get some weird german sites and russian sites.

Ranger of the Abyss thread did not give that info.

The info for getting into the abyss and maps for these location in the dungeon also about 2 links down from the top on a google search.

No, they're not.

Most of this info is from www.uoguide.com, I would suggest book marking it to avoid future incidents.

I already use uoguides, its downside is that its wiki style, they're not so easy to search unless you're very specific and as such didn't expect it to have such current information to be on there, its sometimes a bit behind, but thanks to the link above from an actual helping player, it turned out they did after all. Learn something new.

All in all the gathering of the info I didnt have (the sapling seed was all i knew how to get for sure) it took a grand total of like 5 minutes to google/uo guide/stratics surf the answers, and about 30 minutes to gather them all. My experience time wise seems to be pretty common as well.

You already knew much of it already. And well, fast too, took me 30 minutes just to get the Orb in the dungeon.

Oh and ingame there were tons of the same questions I had from players in global chat.

As for your complaints about the quest, its difficulty and the rewards... First of all, you cannot punish and criticize that you don't have much time to play. The devs are designing for people who play the game. And anyways, this quest is GREAT for people who don't have much time to play, it spans a long time day wise, is repeatable, and available at all hours. You should be happy rather than angry.

I didn't complain about its difficoulty. Though again, for the devs to make yet another event with rare needed loot and exclude a sizable portion of the playerbase.

Also it wasnt "sprung" on us, I knew about it before hand, I check stratics (with my other daily site checks) every morning over breakfast, takes like 3 or less minutes become abreast of any new info or events.

I checked the stratics forum mostly daily and didn't see anything specific about it, certainly not the date it started...again the official announcement was the day after the event had started and there were TWO threads on stratics about some mystery quest, which means many players did NOT know.

Rewards wise, if everyone got the rare rewards, they wouldn't be special, and rewards from events are nothing new. As the reward give outs at events go, you have to do very little to get a chance to win one in this quest. Its not like Halloween where you had to kill an uber uber monster for a chance.

The wisp dungeon is quite hard, especially for someone not decked up in great gear.

And UO should move away from this rare needed reward event type way of doing thing, catering to the "me...me...me" crowd.

All in all it seems like you are simply not putting forth the very minimal effort that everyone else in game and on the boards apparently have zero issue or difficulty putting up.

Lots of people in game were asking the same question, so you're full of it.