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The buckler named "Moiety", UO plot

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Trebr Drab

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If we don't care about the life that’s on the shards, then why haven't we combined them already - or rather, why hasn't Lord British? (other than the fact that would end UO)
I presume because the means to that end has not been discovered yet.

Yes, they are not going to allow the shards to be reunited because that would end UO. Unless they plan to merge shards into a new form of the game with a new map. That would be a cool way to turn UO into a new, fully 3D game. :thumbup1:

But as far as storyline goes, these speculations are fun.

I was thinking though, we're talking about these shards as a physical thing. Maybe we should be talking about them as planes of existence?

One other possibility. Mondain was defeated by the Stranger in his "Fortress outside of Time". That could be a loophole in the whole "realm of possibility" debate.

Another thing. A way that the shards could be reunited. If you understand quantum physics, you know that one (electron?), if changed, causes an opposite reaction to the other, no matter how far they are separated in distance.
Now, this is a wild stretch, but it makes sense in a way. Suppose that someone were to gather all the shards on their shard, take them all and go back in time to Mondain's Fortress outside of Time, to the moment before the shattering happened. This would take them back to the prime world, since there was only the prime world before the shattering. What you'd have is 2 instances of the Gem of Immortality. One whole and one shattered into shards. As the Stranger attacks and shatters Mondain's Gem, as it shatters, it might cause the shards brought there to have the opposite reaction, and reunify into one.
*Poof*, the original Gem shattered, time passed in the worlds of the shattered shards in another time frame/existence, but now they are unified into 1 gem again. But this one in possession of the good guys while Mondain's Gem was shattered. Forming sort of a time loop that lasted on the prime world but an instant, but lasted for as long as it did on the worlds of the shards (in their own dimensions).

I know, that's a wild thought. But hey, this is fantasy.
 

Martyna Zmuir

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I presume because the means to that end has not been discovered yet.

We haven't discovered it, but logic dictates that Lord British knows how to do it since he eventually merged with his other selves. It could be something simple like touching, but then one would think the gathered shards would have already merged through their proximity. Who knows.

Yes, they are not going to allow the shards to be reunited because that would end UO. Unless they plan to merge shards into a new form of the game with a new map. That would be a cool way to turn UO into a new, fully 3D game.

Unless Mythic has grown a pair, this will never happen. Remember how many people whine about the EC, 90% of which haven't even bothered to give it a chance. We might want it to happen, but sadly, they can barely support the game as it is.


I was thinking though, we're talking about these shards as a physical thing. Maybe we should be talking about them as planes of existence?

This is what the multiverse is. It’s like a book - each page is a different reality. Physicists call them branes.

One other possibility. Mondain was defeated by the Stranger in his "Fortress outside of Time". That could be a loophole in the whole "realm of possibility" debate.

Which would make our involvement moot, since we don't have access to that.

Another thing. A way that the shards could be reunited. If you understand quantum physics, you know that one (electron?), if changed, causes an opposite reaction to the other, no matter how far they are separated in distance.

Quantum entanglement? That’s between particles, notsomuch larger structures.

Two entangled particles allow 'communication' through each other over any distance. While this is about to be a boon to the communications and intelligence communities here on Earth, I doubt that anyone native to Sosaria could comprehend it.

However, one could argue that magic is the mental manipulation of quantum fields etc. So... Who knows.


Now, this is a wild stretch, but it makes sense in a way. Suppose that someone were to gather all the shards on their shard, take them all and go back in time to Mondain's Fortress outside of Time, to the moment before the shattering happened. This would take them back to the prime world, since there was only the prime world before the shattering. What you'd have is 2 instances of the Gem of Immortality. One whole and one shattered into shards. As the Stranger attacks and shatters Mondain's Gem, as it shatters, it might cause the shards brought there to have the opposite reaction, and reunify into one.
*Poof*, the original Gem shattered, time passed in the worlds of the shattered shards in another time frame/existence, but now they are unified into 1 gem again. But this one in possession of the good guys while Mondain's Gem was shattered. Forming sort of a time loop that lasted on the prime world but an instant, but lasted for as long as it did on the worlds of the shards (in their own dimensions).

I know, that's a wild thought. But hey, this is fantasy.


That. Make. Brain. Hurt.

Let’s not get into too many wild temporal paradoxes here, fun as they may be. Even if that did happen, you would still be left with shards from the gem that did shatter...not really getting us anywhere.
 
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Trebr Drab

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I presume because the means to that end has not been discovered yet.

We haven't discovered it, but logic dictates that Lord British knows how to do it since he eventually merged with his other selves. It could be something simple like touching, but then one would think the gathered shards would have already merged through their proximity. Who knows.

Yes, they are not going to allow the shards to be reunited because that would end UO. Unless they plan to merge shards into a new form of the game with a new map. That would be a cool way to turn UO into a new, fully 3D game.

Unless Mythic has grown a pair, this will never happen. Remember how many people whine about the EC, 90% of which haven't even bothered to give it a chance. We might want it to happen, but sadly, they can barely support the game as it is.


I was thinking though, we're talking about these shards as a physical thing. Maybe we should be talking about them as planes of existence?

This is what the multiverse is. It’s like a book - each page is a different reality. Physicists call them branes.

One other possibility. Mondain was defeated by the Stranger in his "Fortress outside of Time". That could be a loophole in the whole "realm of possibility" debate.

Which would make our involvement moot, since we don't have access to that.

Another thing. A way that the shards could be reunited. If you understand quantum physics, you know that one (electron?), if changed, causes an opposite reaction to the other, no matter how far they are separated in distance.

Quantum entanglement? That’s between particles, notsomuch larger structures.

Two entangled particles allow 'communication' through each other over any distance. While this is about to be a boon to the communications and intelligence communities here on Earth, I doubt that anyone native to Sosaria could comprehend it.

However, one could argue that magic is the mental manipulation of quantum fields etc. So... Who knows.


Now, this is a wild stretch, but it makes sense in a way. Suppose that someone were to gather all the shards on their shard, take them all and go back in time to Mondain's Fortress outside of Time, to the moment before the shattering happened. This would take them back to the prime world, since there was only the prime world before the shattering. What you'd have is 2 instances of the Gem of Immortality. One whole and one shattered into shards. As the Stranger attacks and shatters Mondain's Gem, as it shatters, it might cause the shards brought there to have the opposite reaction, and reunify into one.
*Poof*, the original Gem shattered, time passed in the worlds of the shattered shards in another time frame/existence, but now they are unified into 1 gem again. But this one in possession of the good guys while Mondain's Gem was shattered. Forming sort of a time loop that lasted on the prime world but an instant, but lasted for as long as it did on the worlds of the shards (in their own dimensions).

I know, that's a wild thought. But hey, this is fantasy.


That. Make. Brain. Hurt.

Let’s not get into too many wild temporal paradoxes here, fun as they may be. Even if that did happen, you would still be left with shards from the gem that did shatter...not really getting us anywhere.
Nae, Martyna. It would change everything. Once the quantum physics caused the shards to become one whole Gem at the moment that Mondain's Gem shattered, it would also hold the world of Sosaria, and all the powers of the Gem of Immortaility. It was become the Gem of Immortality, while Mondain's would become just broken shards, empty since the world of Sosaria is now in the newly unified Gem. And the planar time loop that our shards have been in would end.

Unfortunately, so too would end all the lives that live within those planes, not just of this set of shards, but all sets of shards from all shard worlds. Because the newly unified Gem would be THE Gem of immortality.

Quantum physics=Moiety.
Felucca/Trammel.
The different aspects of Lord British (Feluccan and Trammelized).
The means to unify the shards and end the loop in time, the breakage of the Universe into the Multiverse.
Moiety.

Now if only we can collect all the shards, including those the Trammelized Lord British took to the Void.
Oh, and there's a small matter of finding a time machine.

This is gonna be easy. :gee:
 
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