The Beginning of the End?

[Guest]

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There has been nothing new! No updates! I see people that I played with back in 2003 and I have no idea how they could have stayed playing the same game all the time. the SAME jobs, the SAME objects... same same same. For years. There were good times to be had, but OMGoodness!

Then we get the email that the game is more fun now and things are going to be happening. About 6 weeks later (which is completely unacceptable), nothing is happening yet, and people are grumpy.

[/ QUOTE ]Okay. So I suppose being able to play together in one humongous city isn't new. I suppose custom content isn't anything new. I suppose being able to perform every interaction available regardless of skills within residential lots (where you also never have to green) isn't anything new. I suppose you're right - there's been absolutely nothing new added to the game since 2003. No pets, no new clothes - and that list of things to come never actually got posted by the devs...

 

[jasminemoon]

In Reply to Snord and Mooxigirl,

I do hope that you are right..and the use of the ATMs helps to fund the game development towards movement towards a better game! As my concern is that the devs DO have the needed funds to continue to move the game along and add new updates, and interactive content. Still..I am concerned about where this may lead in the "cash out" area..I think that new game objects and updates are a main component to keep the player base-even those that use the ATMs on a regular basis.

If you guys are right, and that much money IS being sunk into the game via ATM right now, then that would mean that EA would, in turn, and it shouldn't take too very long, hire (as in add to) a larger development team, and have more equipment/needs at their disposal, and we should see many delightful changes much more quickly, as opposed to the scary silence that has folded upon us this week...

Time will most surely tell,
Jasmine

 

[imported_ChipsAhoy]

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Okay. So I suppose being able to play together in one humongous city isn't new.

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Seriously? This is a point to you? Okay we visit lots. With the same stuff on it. Oh Boy.

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I suppose custom content isn't anything new.

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How did I know you would bring this up? Most of it looks pretty darn cheesy and you cant interact with it.

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I suppose being able to perform every interaction available regardless of skills within residential lots (where you also never have to green) isn't anything new.

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Who goes to residential lots?

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I suppose you're right - there's been absolutely nothing new added to the game since 2003. No pets, no new clothes -

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I know I am, thank you.

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...and that list of things to come never actually got posted by the devs...

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Is it here? LOL

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[Guest]

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Okay. So I suppose being able to play together in one humongous city isn't new.

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Seriously? This is a point to you? Okay we visit lots. With the same stuff on it. Oh Boy.

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Actually for anyone who lived in the old cities with extremly low populations, having everyone together makes a big difference. I can now visit lots I always wanted to see but never could unless i moved a sim.

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I suppose custom content isn't anything new.

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How did I know you would bring this up? Most of it looks pretty darn cheesy and you cant interact with it.

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Sure CC has interaction, I can sit on a chair and eat at a table. It may not be much yet, but its something.

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I suppose being able to perform every interaction available regardless of skills within residential lots (where you also never have to green) isn't anything new.

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Who goes to residential lots?

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I own one and i get alot of visitors. Many of them new players.

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I suppose you're right - there's been absolutely nothing new added to the game since 2003. No pets, no new clothes -

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I know I am, thank you.

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Dont be too sure.

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...and that list of things to come never actually got posted by the devs...

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Is it here?

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There is tons of info available about the future, including posts from the devs, one linked by Polly earlier. In addition the devs spent a ton of time sharing their vision with us in TC3.

I think Luc and team will continue to fight for a future of EA Land. After all if the failure with the sims name is a blight on their record imagine now that it has EA in the name.

 

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Okay, something's just piqued my curiousity here...

I can count a good number of threads and posts here from people griping and complaining and demanding that the devs return the game to "the way it was"; and here, I'm seeing nobody likes "the way it was".

What's with the gross inconsistency here?

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The game now is the same game as it was. Skill, make money,buy stuff.

The old game used that template.

The new game: We all combined into a new city. Many are now falling into the old routine because there is nothing else to do. But theres a catch. You cant buy anything!

There needs to be new ways to skill, make money, and buy stuff.

Many games follow that template. I dont play WoW but I bet you skill, make money, buy stuff. Thats what you do in UO. Thats what you do in Diablo.

The template is proven, Millions do it in online games. The developers need to add things to EAland so we can have fun while we skill, make money, and buy stuff.

New interactive objects, new professions, new job tracts.

So, the game is the same game. We need new ways to play it. Some will like the new things, others will like the old ways.

Skill, make money, buy stuff. If that doesn't make you want to log in, TSO also introduced hosting, chatting, making friends, role playing, and general goofing off.

The template is in place. Until the players can make obects that allow skilling and making money, we are at the mercy of the developers. They did make CC for us to buy.

Why do people say they want the game like it was? They had fun with the objects in place. But the devs changed the payouts.

Why do people want a new game? They didn't like old ways of skilling, making money, and buying stuff. They want something new.

To answer your question; there is no inconsistancy, the average player in this type of online game wants to do the same things. Both groups are not happy with the results.

If you dont think people want to skill, make money, and buy stuff. Go look at the hours in the skills, money, and store categories. Then compare to the rest.

Let me repeat: Skill, make money, buy stuff. Thats where TSO and EALand are the same game.

 

[Guest]

The top TEN residentials add up to 30 hours. The top has 8 hours 10 mins.

Not exactly a hot category. I just bought one and will use this post as advertisement.

I have a photo studio, PM me in game for a photo session. Maybe you will be EALands next top model!

 

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I think I'm probably a 'typical returning player' and this is the perspective from which I post. 2002 I receive TSO as a gift and begin playing. The addiction immediately sets in and I enthusiastically play every day for the next..hmmm... 9 months or so.

At that point I'm still playing regularly but I'm no longer logging in for the 'game' so much as for the people IN the game. By October I've taken my first break from TSO and I don't return until April '04.

I renew, but of course am disappointed that I have lost all my sims, locks, land etc. I persevere and am again playing regularly, making new friends, getting into trouble and having fun. Again, I'm logging in mainly for the people. There are now casinos, crafting comes along and that's a great diversion for a while. Then just as my interest is flagging, DC comes along. Oh how exciting the anticipation of that new city was! The planning, the plotting... and it WAS fun. It'll be like it was in the old days! And it was for the first weeks.

By December I've had it. I've started playing another online game with quests and real progression and LOTS of people at all hours of the day or night. That was the saddest part for me about TSO... losing all my friends one by one, having a hard time finding a lot open, never mind busy, my dark bookmark list and no real goals. Trust me, I'm capable of finding and creating my own fun in a game. I ran a mini-golf course, I've lived in an alien space ship with possibly THE most creative sim I've ever met (he built a 2 story stove in which to bake my teddy bear one day), I built a zoo using every item that even remotely looked animalistic... but there came a point where it was no longer fun, so I quit for good.

March '08 comes along and a dear friend im's me to tell me my beloved BF is being merged, along with all the other cities. He sends me links to the EA-Land info and I am intrigued! I never receive the actual email invite because I no longer use that old email address. I sign in as a free player and start poking around. I read the blogs and find out about amnesty. THIS is exciting news to an old player. We have to make new sims, but the chance to play with our old locks? Sign me up baby! I renew and head over to EA-Land and rediscover my simmy self.

And it IS fun again. Like hauling out an old copy of a beloved game and reinstalling it on the desktop. The familiarity of the gameplay with the added social aspect is nostalgic.

And also a little frustrating. Because after playing for a week I'm back in the old skill/make money cycle and nothing has changed. Except that it's harder to make money, harder to buy items, harder to set up your own lot. And even if you get to that point, harder to get yourself onto the map so other people can come SEE your lot.

As a returning player with no real emotional investment in this game anymore, what I'm seeing is the same old game with a few cosmetic changes. I'm seeing the shift away from it being a game of 'work hard, build up your corner of the sandbox, invite people over to share your idea of play' and into a 'buy your money here and be bigger and better than all the rest!' concept. I feel like I'm being manipulated into spending more rl dollars in order to get the same progression I was able to get years ago. The other option is to make my own the old way but extremely slowly and THAT feels very deliberate on their part.

Anyway, the thought of new fun stuff to do in my very first online game (which will ALWAYS hold a very special spot in my heart) was enough to bring me back. What my actual experience has been... it's not enough to retain me. I will await the amnesty rewards, but after that, unless they have something more up their sleeves than payouts I know my interest will wane and I'll be gone again.

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Terra Pin, I don't normally read such long posts but as I began to read yours, I realized we had nearly the exact same game experiences and responses. You nailed it for most of us.

I am hearing the same sentiment in chat in many skill and money houses from many players who do not post on Stratics. Things like "this is worse than it was before." There are comparisons to the Dragon Cove days when that "hardcore" city was really easier than EA Land is today (unless you buy money). Botters have been replaced with the ATM machine.

There will always be those that disagree and challenge every post. I think they would debate themselves if it would be possible. Your post was clearly from the heart.

The key to the outcome of this game is your last sentence. Will we all be pleasantly surprised an a few days with "something big" to keep us here? Will the developers return with more input, conversation with players, and actual content added to the game? I hope that light at the end of the tunnel becomes available... and soon, before we all poof.

 

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Okay. So I suppose being able to play together in one humongous city isn't new.

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Seriously? This is a point to you? Okay we visit lots. With the same stuff on it. Oh Boy.

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Actually for anyone who lived in the old cities with extremly low populations, having everyone together makes a big difference. I can now visit lots I always wanted to see but never could unless i moved a sim.

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I suppose custom content isn't anything new.

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How did I know you would bring this up? Most of it looks pretty darn cheesy and you cant interact with it.

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Sure CC has interaction, I can sit on a chair and eat at a table. It may not be much yet, but its something.

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I suppose being able to perform every interaction available regardless of skills within residential lots (where you also never have to green) isn't anything new.

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Who goes to residential lots?

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I own one and i get alot of visitors. Many of them new players.

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I suppose you're right - there's been absolutely nothing new added to the game since 2003. No pets, no new clothes -

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I know I am, thank you.

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Dont be too sure.

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...and that list of things to come never actually got posted by the devs...

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Is it here?

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There is tons of info available about the future, including posts from the devs, one linked by Polly earlier. In addition the devs spent a ton of time sharing their vision with us in TC3.

I think Luc and team will continue to fight for a future of EA Land. After all if the failure with the sims name is a blight on their record imagine now that it has EA in the name.

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What is beginning to annoy me intensely is the responses to our posts from the mods here... They should be flagships for our community, yet I don't see one of them ever critisize the game, I'm beginning to wonder if they are in fact bots programmed to represent EAs interests.
If they cared about this game, they would at least aknowledge our concerns instead of rubbishing them all the time.
The game won't survive in its current state, yet according to them, (yes every single one of them) the alterations to the game are ALL wonderful.
I wonder how mods to this forum are picked? They certainly don't represent the players of this game fairly, which is sad and wrong.
Please re-evalute your position here. The game IS worth saving, try thinking from a customers veiwpoint and start fighting for real changes.
If i'm offending you at all I appologuise, but forum mods ought to be representative of the players surely. Why do you all sound like pre-recorded messages from EA?

 

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What is beginning to annoy me intensely is the responses to our posts from the mods here... They should be flagships for our community, yet I don't see one of them ever critisize the game, I'm beginning to wonder if they are in fact bots programmed to represent EAs interests.
If they cared about this game, they would at least aknowledge our concerns instead of rubbishing them all the time.
The game won't survive in its current state, yet according to them, (yes every single one of them) the alterations to the game are ALL wonderful.
I wonder how mods to this forum are picked? They certainly don't represent the players of this game fairly, which is sad and wrong.
Please re-evalute your position here. The game IS worth saving, try thinking from a customers veiwpoint and start fighting for real changes.
If i'm offending you at all I appologuise, but forum mods ought to be representative of the players surely. Why do you all sound like pre-recorded messages from EA?

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[jammybob]

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What is beginning to annoy me intensely is the responses to our posts from the mods here... They should be flagships for our community, yet I don't see one of them ever critisize the game, I'm beginning to wonder if they are in fact bots programmed to represent EAs interests.
If they cared about this game, they would at least aknowledge our concerns instead of rubbishing them all the time.
The game won't survive in its current state, yet according to them, (yes every single one of them) the alterations to the game are ALL wonderful.
I wonder how mods to this forum are picked? They certainly don't represent the players of this game fairly, which is sad and wrong.
Please re-evalute your position here. The game IS worth saving, try thinking from a customers veiwpoint and start fighting for real changes.
If i'm offending you at all I appologuise, but forum mods ought to be representative of the players surely. Why do you all sound like pre-recorded messages from EA?

[/ QUOTE ]<font face="courier new">I'm sorry, but I could not understand your statement. Please input your statement again. For questions, please press 1 now. For praise, please press 2 now. For concerns, please press 3 now. For complaints, please press 4 now. For hate-spewing vitriol, please hang up the line and try your call again later. Para instrucciones en español, presione 8 por favor.</font type=fixed>

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Can I press 3 &amp; 4 at the same time?

 

[imported_debslee]

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What is beginning to annoy me intensely is the responses to our posts from the mods here... They should be flagships for our community, yet I don't see one of them ever critisize the game, I'm beginning to wonder if they are in fact bots programmed to represent EAs interests.
If they cared about this game, they would at least aknowledge our concerns instead of rubbishing them all the time.
The game won't survive in its current state, yet according to them, (yes every single one of them) the alterations to the game are ALL wonderful.
I wonder how mods to this forum are picked? They certainly don't represent the players of this game fairly, which is sad and wrong.
Please re-evalute your position here. The game IS worth saving, try thinking from a customers veiwpoint and start fighting for real changes.
If i'm offending you at all I appologuise, but forum mods ought to be representative of the players surely. Why do you all sound like pre-recorded messages from EA?

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What is beginning to annoy me intensely is the responses to our posts from the mods here... They should be flagships for our community, yet I don't see one of them ever critisize the game, I'm beginning to wonder if they are in fact bots programmed to represent EAs interests.
If they cared about this game, they would at least aknowledge our concerns instead of rubbishing them all the time.
The game won't survive in its current state, yet according to them, (yes every single one of them) the alterations to the game are ALL wonderful.
I wonder how mods to this forum are picked? They certainly don't represent the players of this game fairly, which is sad and wrong.
Please re-evalute your position here. The game IS worth saving, try thinking from a customers veiwpoint and start fighting for real changes.
If i'm offending you at all I appologuise, but forum mods ought to be representative of the players surely. Why do you all sound like pre-recorded messages from EA?


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Mods have their own opinions just as everyone else does - and we do not work for EA so it IS *our* opinions we post. You are free to disagree as much as you like... but just because you disagree doesn't mean other players do also. You are clearly more than able to post your own opinion which is the point of the boards, like everyone else. Oh, and "every single one" of us does not fit the description you just posted, so I would appreciate it if you didn't try to speak for me as a mod or as a player or as a person.

As far as the game is concerned my stand point is wait and see. Personally I do not see the point in stressing over, debating over, or speculating over something that may or may not happen. I don't agree with or like all of the changes made to the game nor would I like to see it end.

 

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Ill have to disagree with you on this point. I have even seen mods express concerns lately. firefox has a great web browser with a good spell check in it. It might help you escape the wrath of those who tend to attack posts with typos or misspellings in them. I am not attacking your post, i know how easy it is to misspell or typo when your ranting a bit. Just trying to save you a headache on these forums

 

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Please re-evalute your position here. The game IS worth saving, try thinking from a customers veiwpoint and start fighting for real changes.

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I dont think you know me very well if you think I havent fought tooth and nail for real changes in this game. You can look on the wiki and see that I have written many designs. I have spent countless hours with the devs, not only promoting designs on the wiki (not only mine, any I think have potential), but discussing player concerns in depth and learning about the visions for the future.

Not only that, but I spend countless hours helping players with tech issues, in game and on YIM. I help new players on a daily basis. This all has absolutely nothing to do with my position on stratics. I do these things because I love this game. I do not get anything for it expect the satisfaction of being a helpful member of the community.

Oh and in case your wondering I am a customer, I have 3 accts. I have had up to 6 accts for the last 5 years.

So you may want to rethink your methods when it comes to fighting for real change.

 

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Please re-evalute your position here. The game IS worth saving, try thinking from a customers veiwpoint and start fighting for real changes.

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I dont think you know me very well if you think I havent fought tooth and nail for real changes in this game. You can look on the wiki and see that I have written many designs. I have spent countless hours with the devs, not only promoting designs on the wiki (not only mine, any I think have potential), but discussing player concerns in depth and learning about the visions for the future.

Not only that, but I spend countless hours helping players with tech issues, in game and on YIM. I help new players on a daily basis. This all has absolutely nothing to do with my position on stratics. I do these things because I love this game. I do not get anything for it expect the satisfaction of being a helpful member of the community.

Oh and in case your wondering I am a customer, I have 3 accts. I have had up to 6 accts for the last 5 years.

So you may want to rethink your methods when it comes to fighting for real change.

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If you spend countless hours with the devs, then perhaps you could direct them to the concerns of a lot of players who have posted here? I agree, that would be more effevtive than posting concerns that apparently they no longer read anyway

 

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I think before people take the time to cause alot of useless drama with drivel threads like these, they need to think about EA Land from a simple business standpoint.

Would EA puts its name, its time, and some of its veteran employees on a project they are willing to drop on a whim? You don't know EA very well do you. The company takes very little risk without guaranteed reward, they are not known to be fly by night or to start projects they don't intend to give a good run at. The old TSO was Maxis' fault for the majority, and now EA is trying to turn the engine it has into a profitable venture to compete with games like Second Life.

You people need to calm down. If the Devs don't take the time to hold your hand for a few days, they're working. There's alot more to coding and design than giving you a new object or making sure Pizza pays a fortune. Someone is sitting there approving our CC during the week, someone is monitering the servers, SOMEONE is making sure the game runs.

I personaly could care less if the crabby people who play this game cancel their accounts. I've encountered too many complainers not worth their salt to bother caring about them anymore. New players or potential players, if you'r reading this, contact me and I'll tell you why the game is worth it, how i have fun with it, and what the benefits are.

Sorry if this was harsh, but a little common sense and intelligence goes an AWFUL long way sometimes people. Stop making yourselves look foolish.


edit: Alright, now i'm starting to giggle a bit thinking about this. The last EA Land blog posts were the 15th and the 16th....its the 20th people!!! The Devs are gone because its been 4 days, one of them a WEEKEND DAY? hahahahaha My CC was aapproved on Friday too, now that I think about it. Wow, I probably only needed to post that instead of the post above. Gloom and Doom over 3 business days, one of which we had a blog post on, with CC still being approved every day. WOW

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While I agree with your post to a great degree and find it very sane..

- I would say; from the same standpoint - wasn't there a 'deadline' to see if the game would be lucrative again? Isn't this 'beta'? Not trying to be negative; I would love to see the game succeed - I have personally wanted a 'sims on line' for all the time I've played the regular sims - I just couldn't find it. Did so simply by accident during a google search for some sims 2 objects. So they must have done a good job keeping it hidden for a good number of years.

So - what I am saying is, as a business venture - which this is - if it does not prove to start generating some money - will they keep it going?

 

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So - what I am saying is, as a business venture - which this is - if it does not prove to start generating some money - will they keep it going?

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We have been told that if they do not meet the criteria set down within the time frame they (the Devs) were given, that the game would be closed and no other version would replace it.

It is my sincere hope that they are working on a big push for the game, and not in EA corporate offices defending this project against closure.

 

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Okay. So I suppose being able to play together in one humongous city isn't new.

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Seriously? This is a point to you? Okay we visit lots. With the same stuff on it. Oh Boy.

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What amazes me is that you're completely ignoring one huge detail of the "city merge". Either that or you're unaware of it. But given the confidence you seem to have in making your statements, I'll assume you are aware of it and just choosing to ignore it.

Many people celebrated the idea of combining the maps into one big city and being able to move from city map to city map without having to select a different sim. But then the community <u>demanded</u> that sims move with their house and items. Even though it added much time and effort to the schedule, the Dev Team gave in and delivered what the community wanted.

Oh Boy.

 

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You have to realize that this game was never given a lot of hype. During beta you would see ads on the back of The Sims expansion packs but nothing really in magazines, or tv, nothing like that. But you see commercials, tons of magazine ads, things like that for all other online games. This game became popular based on word of mouth basically! And for that I think the numbers are very good!

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Yes. I've never seen any advertising for this game.
I heard of it from someone and tried.

After the beta I'm sure they'll advertise it a lot and it will become more popular.

We should really keep this forum a little "happier". We are the players, we want the game to live on.
This forum is what new players check out when they are considering if they should start playing or not.

 

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What is beginning to annoy me intensely is the responses to our posts from the mods here... They should be flagships for our community, yet I don't see one of them ever critisize the game, I'm beginning to wonder if they are in fact bots programmed to represent EAs interests.
If they cared about this game, they would at least aknowledge our concerns instead of rubbishing them all the time.
The game won't survive in its current state, yet according to them, (yes every single one of them) the alterations to the game are ALL wonderful.
I wonder how mods to this forum are picked? They certainly don't represent the players of this game fairly, which is sad and wrong.
Please re-evalute your position here. The game IS worth saving, try thinking from a customers veiwpoint and start fighting for real changes.
If i'm offending you at all I appologuise, but forum mods ought to be representative of the players surely. Why do you all sound like pre-recorded messages from EA?

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I bolded the key question. All of your assumptions are based on you not knowing how mods are picked.
This is a start: Stratics Network Help Wanted Ad

 

[Peppie]

I wonder why Parizad stoped talking to us as well .. She could just tell us if everything was ok ...

we are left out in the dark once again ..

 

[Guest]

Those of us who believe in the game should stay out of this thread completely, because we know that when the devs post the next update on the blog, something gets updated in the game or they run another test, this thread will be a moot point. Honestly, people are just starting stuff to start it, masking their excuse to flame as legitimate opinion.

 

[Sideliner]

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I hate all this negativity.
I hope next week there is a sick ass update to shock you all.
The negativity rate here is really hitting low.
My attitude is to stay positive and hopeful.
That's all we can do to support the game we love.

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LMAO, I hate it too and I really have to wonder where these people have been playing this past year?

Good lord!!! Even if we don't have a huge update tomorrow, we've already had a huge update this year. I would call the addition of custom content a HUGE update!

Amnesty? I thought accounts needed to be activated by the end of April to be eligible for the amnesty? I sure would have enjoyed Amnesty in March but wasn't really looking for it then.

I haven't really been on the game a lot recently for personal reasons, but if I could, I'd be playing 24/7. When I do log in, no matter what time of the day or night. There seems to be a healthy choice of places to land, unlike before the big merges.

I think I'll just keep hanging in there because I'm curious and excited about what could be just around the corner for us.

I keep hearing people saying 'where is the fun'? Well, this game is only what the players make of it. If it isn't fun, don't look at EA for it. Look at our fellow players.

The game is only what WE make of it.

Devs are not communicating with us? Hot Dog!! Would you want to come here and be subjected to the abusive treatment that some posters think they are 'entitled' to? And there is no reasoning with some people here. Some posters are just using this forum as their 'soap box' to blame the world for everything wrong.

Some of the most wonderful players and active Stratics members have been driven away specifically because of the way they have been talked to at THIS site.

 

[Guest]

The fact of it is all is, despite the changes which have come, the game play is exactly the same.

EA could easily re-invigorate interest in this game if they:

1.) Added new jobs
2.) Added mini games (laser tag, guns, dodgeball, soccer, etc)
3.) Re vamped skilling
4.) Unique ways to make money
5.) Scripting

The only one they even have talked about working towards is #5. I think the first step to making some of these ideas real is by overhauling the graphics. Then implementing some of these ideas.

In the mean time, visit Second Life.

 

[Guest]

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What is beginning to annoy me intensely is the responses to our posts from the mods here... They should be flagships for our community, yet I don't see one of them ever critisize the game, I'm beginning to wonder if they are in fact bots programmed to represent EAs interests.
If they cared about this game, they would at least aknowledge our concerns instead of rubbishing them all the time.
The game won't survive in its current state, yet according to them, (yes every single one of them) the alterations to the game are ALL wonderful.
I wonder how mods to this forum are picked? They certainly don't represent the players of this game fairly, which is sad and wrong.
Please re-evalute your position here. The game IS worth saving, try thinking from a customers veiwpoint and start fighting for real changes.
If i'm offending you at all I appologuise, but forum mods ought to be representative of the players surely. Why do you all sound like pre-recorded messages from EA?


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Oh, fer cryin' out loud.
This is one of the big problems with this board - broad generalizations from outer space that have no association with reality.

 

[Guest]

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What is beginning to annoy me intensely is the responses to our posts from the mods here... They should be flagships for our community, yet I don't see one of them ever critisize the game, I'm beginning to wonder if they are in fact bots programmed to represent EAs interests.
If they cared about this game, they would at least aknowledge our concerns instead of rubbishing them all the time.
The game won't survive in its current state, yet according to them, (yes every single one of them) the alterations to the game are ALL wonderful.
I wonder how mods to this forum are picked? They certainly don't represent the players of this game fairly, which is sad and wrong.
Please re-evalute your position here. The game IS worth saving, try thinking from a customers veiwpoint and start fighting for real changes.
If i'm offending you at all I appologuise, but forum mods ought to be representative of the players surely. Why do you all sound like pre-recorded messages from EA?


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Oh, fer cryin' out loud.
This is one of the big problems with this board - broad generalizations from outer space that have no association with reality.

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I agree Donovan.

now just TTL. I see complaints about how little has been done to the game in the past year.

I'd just like to state that if the Dev team didn't listen to the players outcries we would have a much more developed game than we do now.

So if they just opened up EA-Land and ditched all the original cities and sims like I believe was the original intent, all that time that was spent on merging and planning and merging would have been put to other uses.

Go figure, we are screwed b/c they listened to us with our sentimentalities.

You can't please all of the people all of the time.

Sometimes you can never please some of the people... so why bother.

Custom Content has come a long way even though you can't interact with it, and its basically a stepping stone. Things just don't happen over night.

But w/e. Some people come to this forum with the sole purpose to freak out.

You don't like things that have happened to the game? Understandable... but I've said this before. When the loud lady in my office goes ranting and screaming I tune her out.

I have a feeling the same thing happens to many of the people who do not know how to conduct themselves in a calm and civil manner when posting.

&lt;--- O look my title is gone, does that mean I'm allowed to express my own opinion again?!?!?! B/c goshdarnit I was so tired of holding back.

 

[rieley]

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Sure CC has interaction, I can sit on a chair and eat at a table. It may not be much yet, but its something.

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Greetings all. Some things just make me jump in there.

This is my favorite thus far. (it will change when animation is introduced) We had a riot laughing when we goofed and uploaded a large cauldron as a counter and our EA family started using it. LOL, so we all began discussin what we could upload to use as chairs!!! Now they use the cauldron as a table and we have logs for chairs!! It's cute, you all just try it, and we think of ways to theme decorate. Think of what we can use as chairs, rofl...piggy chairs, etc. Tables, list is endless. Oh, hope I'm on topic, beginning of the end? I hope not.

( Sorry mods if I went off topic, respect your job...I used to moderate on ao...) Sending hugs. Try moderating when posters are animal rights and hunters.

 

[Sideliner]

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The fact of it is all is, despite the changes which have come, the game play is exactly the same.

EA could easily re-invigorate interest in this game if they:

1.) Added new jobs
2.) Added mini games (laser tag, guns, dodgeball, soccer, etc)
3.) Re vamped skilling
4.) Unique ways to make money
5.) Scripting

The only one they even have talked about working towards is #5. I think the first step to making some of these ideas real is by overhauling the graphics. Then implementing some of these ideas.

In the mean time, visit Second Life.

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Well, this is what I mean. Obviously you have not availed yourself of the informational items that the dev team has set up like the Wiki and maybe even some of the old archived discussions here.

All those things and more have been discuss and many are in the works. Rome wasn't built in a day. While the devs are busy doing their 'dev' work, why not stop by the wiki and check it out?

If your idea isn't on the wiki, write it up and post it for the devs to read.

As for 2nd life? I've been there, done that. I'm not at all impressed with 2nd Life.

And as for their 'technical' assistance? It pretty much sucks. Everytime I've had a problem, I've never been able to get 2nd life to respond with anything at all that was helpful.

Example: Did you know that the EA devs responded to and took care of Vista related problems about 2 weeks quicker than 2nd life devs did? (may have been longer actually. I just know that 2nd life still didn't have a Vista patch 2 weeks after the time I originally tried to get one.)

2nd Life can also be very expensive to play depending on if you want to purchase property or creations by other players.

Don't compare TSO's devs to anyone else's because I don't think that any other game can boast the kind of consideration and one-on-one assistance we've gotten here at EA-Land.

As for Stratics Moderators, I wouldn't blame them if they just quit and let everyone just bash themselves to death. They have 'had' to listen to it all and yet they are still here. Mods are real people and they are also players and they can and should be able to have their own opinions on things. Nuff said about the moderators, but they really do deserve better than what was said in this thread about them.

 

[DGLita]

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After the beta I'm sure they'll advertise it a lot and it will become more popular.


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The Devs have already stated there is no advertising budget. They are relying on Facbook to get the word round

 

[jasminemoon]

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&lt;snip&gt;...
As for Stratics Moderators, I wouldn't blame them if they just quit and let everyone just bash themselves to death. They have 'had' to listen to it all and yet they are still here. Mods are real people and they are also players and they can and should be able to have their own opinions on things. Nuff said about the moderators, but they really do deserve better than what was said in this thread about them.

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YAY! PILLOW FIGHT!

*starts handing out pillows*

Hmm, acually that would be a fun interaction!

 

[DGLita]

Just hitting reply
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Im not sure where this went wrong, but if you read my original post you will see that I have done some research into the game, come up with some facts and then asked 2 questions.

Out of all the replies it seems that only one person understood this.

 

[imported_herk1287]

Could it be a "Dont Ask Dont Tell"policy now, rumor is it that most of the devs were reassigned or let go, I hope thats not the case

, if they tel us whats actually happenin they be fired on the spot

 

[Guest]

my fear is that the developers were told to move on to something else, if that is the case, and I hope it isn't, we're left with some huge problems.
Someone is STILL approving custom content, so that is a sign for hope.
EA is a big company, it wouldn't be unheard of for developers to receive orders to move on to other things, and this sudden silence is only helping to spread rumors. So would someone from EA please speak!

 

[DGLita]

yes of course, because we would all cancel our subscriptions and go free play.

 

[Guest]

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The fact of it is all is, despite the changes which have come, the game play is exactly the same.

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Isn't that like saying despite the sun coming up, it is completely dark outside?

 

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TC3 IS less busy than EALand, but probably has a higher percentage of free players. I havnt counted but lets say there are 500 people playing TC3 right now, so a total of around 1300. Considering that other online games have memberships running into hundreds of thousands, does this sound like a successful online game to you?

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One thing to keep in mind is that I know you are from the UK so the figures you have are probably from your peak playing time and not the peak playing time in the US.


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I know very well about the time difference, so I stayed up till 4am here to do my count, which was approx 8pm US time, as you can see from the time stated on my post

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No, I read your post when it came through, it was approximately 10pm CST I believe which would make it 11pm EST. I thought you're only 6-7 hours ahead? How could that post have been written at 4am your time?

 

[imported_Qute Pi]

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this sudden silence is only helping to spread rumors.

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I agree they handle all situations poorly. If they do communicate they don't stick around to clarify. And when they don't bother to communicate that makes things even worse. I see it from in game and on these boards. I am not sure why they show so little concern...

I keep thinking to myself maybe they are working on the next big change to the game, preferably fun...

We'll see....I guess lol

 

[Guest]

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You have to realize that this game was never given a lot of hype. During beta you would see ads on the back of The Sims expansion packs but nothing really in magazines, or tv, nothing like that. But you see commercials, tons of magazine ads, things like that for all other online games. This game became popular based on word of mouth basically! And for that I think the numbers are very good!

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Yes. I've never seen any advertising for this game.
I heard of it from someone and tried.

After the beta I'm sure they'll advertise it a lot and it will become more popular.



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Actually, there were TV ads during the Christmas launch, in Prime time. As well as emails to Sims newletter subscribers. It was actually pretty heavily advertised, which is one of the reasons that the first year numbers were such a disappointment, and I suspect, the reason they would not give it the same treatment this time around.

Chris Klein commercial.
This commercial is using Sims2 graphics to advertise TSO
Selma Blair commercial.

 

[Guest]

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The fact of it is all is, despite the changes which have come, the game play is exactly the same.

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Isn't that like saying despite the sun coming up, it is completely dark outside?

[/ QUOTE ]

False parallel much?

It's much more like the year to year changes in cars. One year the hubcaps look a little different. The next, they might slightly change the bodystyle. Does the car still drive the same? Yes. Until they modify some of the core parts (ie:engine) the car will continue to drive the same.

Funny in all of this, I am a huge supporter of this game. Always have been supportive of the developers. I think the game needs more overhaul, and quickly. Activity in EAL has slowly declined since its opening. I am not criticizing the moves that have been made.

 

[jammybob]

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No, I read your post when it came through, it was approximately 10pm CST I believe which would make it 11pm EST. I thought you're only 6-7 hours ahead? How could that post have been written at 4am your time?

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4am GMT IS 11pm EST.... 5 hours difference

 

[jasminemoon]

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Just hitting reply
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Im not sure where this went wrong, but if you read my original post you will see that I have done some research into the game, come up with some facts and then asked 2 questions.

Out of all the replies it seems that only one person understood this.

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You asked:
Does this level of player activity justify 30 Devs?

If YOU were an EA Exec what would you do?


I think the reason that you are not getting the answers that you are looking for is because it is all speculation at this point.

Does it justify 30 Devs? Well that depends on one's viewpoint, not a fact. Many of the posters here are hardcore fans of this game and they may just tell you that it justifies 1000 devs regardless of EA's cost because "we" REALLY believe that this game has a HUGE potential if driven in the right direction..then again, a player that is passing through, that thinks completely in numbers and not potential..might tell you that 30 devs are too many...See? It's a "WAIT AND SEE" OPINION. No one can give you a REAL factual answer because the game is still in Beta (ie. development stage)...COMPARISON:

When the guy that made the movie Titanic sunk like 30 million or some other obnoxious amount into the movie..there were VERY, VERY many "naysayers" about how much money he was going to lose..look who is laughing now.

If you were an EA Exec what would you do?

I dunno, I'm NOT an EA Exec..I have no idea what the budget is, what is proposed, how serious they are about the game..the list goes on and on and on...again..SPECULATION, OPINION.

We understood your question, there just isn't a factual or real answer available.

Jasmine

 

[Guest]

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Yes but why do you feel you have to alert everyone of this drastic event? Why can't you just enjoy the time you have on the game and not worry about when it might end? Now EA will probably be swamped with e-mails of frantic players wanting to know if they should possibly:

A. Even bother becoming a paying member if the game will shut down.
B. If they can get refunded for a game that wont continue to be around.
C. Complaints about why they were never informed of a possible game termination why someone on a forum had to announce it.


You have to think about others too. And the age groups that play this game are getting younger and will take this in a more dramatic sense. Please just, stop freaking out over something not happening now, go play the game, enjoy it, have fun with it, meet new people make new friends go work something! Stop bringing this up when right now there is no need for it. Let others enjoy this game as it is, not as something we have to grip onto just incase tomorrow its ripped away.

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See, that's just the sort of attitude i was referring to

Lets all put our heads in the sand and wait for the game to die....
If you say you love the game, then you would fight for something to change so that it would survive in the long term.
Your peception that theres no need for posts like this now is soooooo wrong in my opinion. People are closing their accounts everyday and it doesnt seem to bother you.
If you read the forums, you will see peoples concerns about the game. You may not agree with them, you might think the game is perfect as it is, but you are not I assure you in the majority.
The more poeple are ignoring the complaints that customers bring up, the quicker the game will go.
Please don't aid its disapearance by trying to stop the voices of the players being heard.

[/ QUOTE ]

But the point is this. No matter what anybody does, somebody is gonna be unhappy. There is NO way to make every single person in this game happy. What Hecate is saying is exactly one of the points I've been trying to make....we need to make the best of what we have *now* -while- we try to make things better...it is possible to do both. People are so focused on making things better and negating what we have now that they can't even be partially satisfied while we wait to see what is in store. This game is nowhere near finished, and yes the devs want our feedback on what we don't like, but I think instead of saying that negative posts don't need to happen at all, I think I'd just like to see a bit more diplomacy without all the histrionics and drama that we've seen injected with the facts. That is what isn't needed and that's what gets people so upset.

Perhaps there needs to be a section for these types of posts that only registered members can read. Lurkers who haven't registered can read any post on here right now, so we have no idea who is reading what we say or how it might affect them. Maybe if there was a section that only registered readers could read, there wouldn't be the same worry because that reader would have to consciously register and go there to read the negativity, so ostencibly they would prepare themselves for it before they went in. I don't know if anything like that is possible, and I guess this paragraph is really more suited for Stratics Discussion but it's just something I thought of while reading these posts so I thought I'd interject it with this post. I dunno what else we could do to keep the negativity and venom from putting people off of the game....if anybody else has ideas I'd love to hear them. Not having them would be the simplest thing, but people have proven that they're not gonna refrain from posting stuff like that, so there has to be another way that we can protect potential new players from it, or it very well could keep them from becoming new players or have them cancel their subscription after only one billing cycle because of all the negativity, since the atmosphere in game is a totally different world. Some of the negativity is mixed in, but overall the atmosphere is happy and hopeful, to the point that I hesitate every time before giving anybody the address here since this is where you find alot of the 'how-to' stuff. It'd be nice if that could be separated out into a different site so I wouldn't even have to point new players here at all.

 

[Guest]

OoO... I didn't even read the whole post for the questions.

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Does this level of player activity justify 30 Devs?

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first, there are only 19 people currently working on EA Land.
Not all of them hold a "game developer" job title and each seems to have a specific talent for a specific area of the game that they are responsible for. At least thats how I took it.

But to answer the question, I do not think that the level of player activity justifies having 19 people working on it. Of course I have no solid numbers and no data to back that up... its just my opinion. .. Luckily.

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If YOU were an EA Exec what would you do?

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Well I'd take out my pie charts and what not, I'd see what the potential profit on a fully developed EA Land was and I'd weigh that against all of the 19 salaries that are being paid to work on the game and determine whether or not it was viable to continue development of this game.

Since "I" don't have the pie chart, the list of employees salaries, the costs of maintaining servers...and so on and so forth... I'd have to say at this time I am not able to truly answer this question.

 

[DGLita]

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TC3 IS less busy than EALand, but probably has a higher percentage of free players. I havnt counted but lets say there are 500 people playing TC3 right now, so a total of around 1300. Considering that other online games have memberships running into hundreds of thousands, does this sound like a successful online game to you?

[/ QUOTE ]

One thing to keep in mind is that I know you are from the UK so the figures you have are probably from your peak playing time and not the peak playing time in the US.


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I know very well about the time difference, so I stayed up till 4am here to do my count, which was approx 8pm US time, as you can see from the time stated on my post

[/ QUOTE ]

No, I read your post when it came through, it was approximately 10pm CST I believe which would make it 11pm EST. I thought you're only 6-7 hours ahead? How could that post have been written at 4am your time?

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Carrie, look at the time stamp on my original post. Thats not UK time

 

[jammybob]

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Yes but why do you feel you have to alert everyone of this drastic event? Why can't you just enjoy the time you have on the game and not worry about when it might end? Now EA will probably be swamped with e-mails of frantic players wanting to know if they should possibly:

A. Even bother becoming a paying member if the game will shut down.
B. If they can get refunded for a game that wont continue to be around.
C. Complaints about why they were never informed of a possible game termination why someone on a forum had to announce it.


You have to think about others too. And the age groups that play this game are getting younger and will take this in a more dramatic sense. Please just, stop freaking out over something not happening now, go play the game, enjoy it, have fun with it, meet new people make new friends go work something! Stop bringing this up when right now there is no need for it. Let others enjoy this game as it is, not as something we have to grip onto just incase tomorrow its ripped away.

[/ QUOTE ]

See, that's just the sort of attitude i was referring to

Lets all put our heads in the sand and wait for the game to die....
If you say you love the game, then you would fight for something to change so that it would survive in the long term.
Your peception that theres no need for posts like this now is soooooo wrong in my opinion. People are closing their accounts everyday and it doesnt seem to bother you.
If you read the forums, you will see peoples concerns about the game. You may not agree with them, you might think the game is perfect as it is, but you are not I assure you in the majority.
The more poeple are ignoring the complaints that customers bring up, the quicker the game will go.
Please don't aid its disapearance by trying to stop the voices of the players being heard.

[/ QUOTE ]

But the point is this. No matter what anybody does, somebody is gonna be unhappy. There is NO way to make every single person in this game happy. What Hecate is saying is exactly one of the points I've been trying to make....we need to make the best of what we have *now* -while- we try to make things better...it is possible to do both. People are so focused on making things better and negating what we have now that they can't even be partially satisfied while we wait to see what is in store. This game is nowhere near finished, and yes the devs want our feedback on what we don't like, but I think instead of saying that negative posts don't need to happen at all, I think I'd just like to see a bit more diplomacy without all the histrionics and drama that we've seen injected with the facts. That is what isn't needed and that's what gets people so upset.

Perhaps there needs to be a section for these types of posts that only registered members can read. Lurkers who haven't registered can read any post on here right now, so we have no idea who is reading what we say or how it might affect them. Maybe if there was a section that only registered readers could read, there wouldn't be the same worry because that reader would have to consciously register and go there to read the negativity, so ostencibly they would prepare themselves for it before they went in. I don't know if anything like that is possible, and I guess this paragraph is really more suited for Stratics Discussion but it's just something I thought of while reading these posts so I thought I'd interject it with this post. I dunno what else we could do to keep the negativity and venom from putting people off of the game....if anybody else has ideas I'd love to hear them. Not having them would be the simplest thing, but people have proven that they're not gonna refrain from posting stuff like that, so there has to be another way that we can protect potential new players from it, or it very well could keep them from becoming new players or have them cancel their subscription after only one billing cycle because of all the negativity, since the atmosphere in game is a totally different world. Some of the negativity is mixed in, but overall the atmosphere is happy and hopeful, to the point that I hesitate every time before giving anybody the address here since this is where you find alot of the 'how-to' stuff. It'd be nice if that could be separated out into a different site so I wouldn't even have to point new players here at all.

[/ QUOTE ]

What you are advocating, is hiding the problems the game has from potential new players thinking of joining. Honestly, dont you think that's a little wrong?
It's akin to EA sending out those emails stating that the game has been updated and is now much more fun.

 

[Guest]

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Yes but why do you feel you have to alert everyone of this drastic event? Why can't you just enjoy the time you have on the game and not worry about when it might end? Now EA will probably be swamped with e-mails of frantic players wanting to know if they should possibly:

A. Even bother becoming a paying member if the game will shut down.
B. If they can get refunded for a game that wont continue to be around.
C. Complaints about why they were never informed of a possible game termination why someone on a forum had to announce it.


You have to think about others too. And the age groups that play this game are getting younger and will take this in a more dramatic sense. Please just, stop freaking out over something not happening now, go play the game, enjoy it, have fun with it, meet new people make new friends go work something! Stop bringing this up when right now there is no need for it. Let others enjoy this game as it is, not as something we have to grip onto just incase tomorrow its ripped away.

[/ QUOTE ]

See, that's just the sort of attitude i was referring to

Lets all put our heads in the sand and wait for the game to die....
If you say you love the game, then you would fight for something to change so that it would survive in the long term.
Your peception that theres no need for posts like this now is soooooo wrong in my opinion. People are closing their accounts everyday and it doesnt seem to bother you.
If you read the forums, you will see peoples concerns about the game. You may not agree with them, you might think the game is perfect as it is, but you are not I assure you in the majority.
The more poeple are ignoring the complaints that customers bring up, the quicker the game will go.
Please don't aid its disapearance by trying to stop the voices of the players being heard.

[/ QUOTE ]

But the point is this. No matter what anybody does, somebody is gonna be unhappy. There is NO way to make every single person in this game happy. What Hecate is saying is exactly one of the points I've been trying to make....we need to make the best of what we have *now* -while- we try to make things better...it is possible to do both. People are so focused on making things better and negating what we have now that they can't even be partially satisfied while we wait to see what is in store. This game is nowhere near finished, and yes the devs want our feedback on what we don't like, but I think instead of saying that negative posts don't need to happen at all, I think I'd just like to see a bit more diplomacy without all the histrionics and drama that we've seen injected with the facts. That is what isn't needed and that's what gets people so upset.

Perhaps there needs to be a section for these types of posts that only registered members can read. Lurkers who haven't registered can read any post on here right now, so we have no idea who is reading what we say or how it might affect them. Maybe if there was a section that only registered readers could read, there wouldn't be the same worry because that reader would have to consciously register and go there to read the negativity, so ostencibly they would prepare themselves for it before they went in. I don't know if anything like that is possible, and I guess this paragraph is really more suited for Stratics Discussion but it's just something I thought of while reading these posts so I thought I'd interject it with this post. I dunno what else we could do to keep the negativity and venom from putting people off of the game....if anybody else has ideas I'd love to hear them. Not having them would be the simplest thing, but people have proven that they're not gonna refrain from posting stuff like that, so there has to be another way that we can protect potential new players from it, or it very well could keep them from becoming new players or have them cancel their subscription after only one billing cycle because of all the negativity, since the atmosphere in game is a totally different world. Some of the negativity is mixed in, but overall the atmosphere is happy and hopeful, to the point that I hesitate every time before giving anybody the address here since this is where you find alot of the 'how-to' stuff. It'd be nice if that could be separated out into a different site so I wouldn't even have to point new players here at all.

[/ QUOTE ]

What you are advocating, is hiding the problems the game has from potential new players thinking of joining. Honestly, dont you think that's a little wrong?
It's akin to EA sending out those emails stating that the game has been updated and is now much more fun.

[/ QUOTE ]

What is fun is a matter of opinion.
The game being updated is a fact. As shown by other people in other posts... whether you find those updates to be fun... well thats where the opinion part comes into play.

I know people who have returned to the game who never thought they would return and they claim to be having fun...

Then again, they could just be lying to piss people off... eye dee kay.

 

[Guest]

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The fact of it is all is, despite the changes which have come, the game play is exactly the same.

EA could easily re-invigorate interest in this game if they:

1.) Added new jobs
2.) Added mini games (laser tag, guns, dodgeball, soccer, etc)
3.) Re vamped skilling
4.) Unique ways to make money
5.) Scripting

The only one they even have talked about working towards is #5. I think the first step to making some of these ideas real is by overhauling the graphics. Then implementing some of these ideas.

In the mean time, visit Second Life.

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Any of the items on your list could take a year or more of development. Would you like to wait that long for any new content?

 

[Guest]

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The fact of it is all is, despite the changes which have come, the game play is exactly the same.

EA could easily re-invigorate interest in this game if they:

1.) Added new jobs
2.) Added mini games (laser tag, guns, dodgeball, soccer, etc)
3.) Re vamped skilling
4.) Unique ways to make money
5.) Scripting

The only one they even have talked about working towards is #5. I think the first step to making some of these ideas real is by overhauling the graphics. Then implementing some of these ideas.

In the mean time, visit Second Life.

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Any of the items on your list could take a year or more of development. Would you like to wait that long for any new content?

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Its funny because once long ago, MaxisKyle said something similar about custom content.

So many people were all "Omg yes I'd wait"

Its funny what we say we would do and what we actually do when presented with the situation...

My post has no point, it just made me cqtm

 

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Any of the items on your list could take a year or more of development. Would you like to wait that long for any new content?

[/ QUOTE ]Well we waited nearly 5 years after it was due for the custom content facility, which should have been working before the game was even shipped.

I won't even bother to talk about the landscaping, worldwide boxed release, unfair pricing for non-US players and any of the myriad other issues that have been failed to be delivered over that time.

 

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Any of the items on your list could take a year or more of development. Would you like to wait that long for any new content?

[/ QUOTE ]Well we waited nearly 5 years after it was due for the custom content facility, which should have been working before the game was even shipped.

I won't even bother to talk about the landscaping, worldwide boxed release, unfair pricing for non-US players and any of the myriad other issues that have been failed to be delivered over that time.

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LMAO You crack me up every single time!!!!