Teleporter purchase POLL

[Sean]

Simply...NO.

It's a reward and should be valued as just that.

 

[kokopelli]

No.

 

[Black Sun]

I entirely disagree.

Veteran rewards, to my opinion, are there also to motivate players to maintain their accounts active so that eventually, they can qualify for those appealing high end rewards.

Should they be purchaseable buying a code for real money then any player could by pass the account age limitation and not have to maintian their account as active for the time required to qualify.

This would nullify, the way I see it, one of the reasons to have Veteran Rewards : that of having to maintain an account as active to qualify.

To gain a full year, a player needs to spend about 10 dollars a month 120 dollars for the year. Selling the reward for about 10 dollars would not be a good idea, IMHO, for the game as it could, eventually, lower the revenues for the game and so the resources available for support and new content.

If players want cool high end Veteran Rewards all they need to do is play the game, maintain their account active for the time required and eventually qualify for them.

So, I disagree entirely with the idea of allowing the purchase of high end Veteran Rewards codes for real money.

Let's be realistic though. There's not many 12 year vets out there period, let alone ones who have had their account active for all 12 of those years. Technically my accounts are 10 and 12 years old, But both have periods of inactivity on them. I'm sure there are many more veteran players in my shoes. We banked everything and took a break for a little while. Now I'm not saying we should get credit for that time we were, I just want to point out a major reason there are so few accounts able to claim those high end rewards.

Now, we all know that UO is on the back nine. Is it realistic to believe that players opening up their account for the first time today are going to ever be able to achieve those rewards? Does anyone really think UO will still be running for another 12 years? As much as I'd like to think it would be I just can't believe it.

Point being, is if they had highly desirable items for sale on uogamecodes.com more people would be able to obtain these items, and extra revenue could be added to the game which will in the long run keep it going a little bit longer. I really don't see a downside to the issue. Great, reward the few vets who stuck it out for 12 years, but also realize that the majority of the playerbase is younger than that and many of them would be more than willing to pay for these items.

 

[Aboo]

If we can buy them then why make them vet rewards.

They need sep list of BUYABLE STUFF.

A reward is a reward.

You get them for putting in time. Not because you can afford to pay cash.

I really dont care if the tile set came out as vet rewards or buyable first.
But since it was given as a vet reward it should stay a vet reward.

I agree 100% with you here. Your answer should have been an option in the poll because none of the others fit my answer.

 

[Pfloyd]

If they turn these into buyable ones they should allow us to buy vet reward picks also...the older your account then obviously the better your options...

 

[popps]

Let's be realistic though. There's not many 12 year vets out there period, let alone ones who have had their account active for all 12 of those years. Technically my accounts are 10 and 12 years old, But both have periods of inactivity on them. I'm sure there are many more veteran players in my shoes. We banked everything and took a break for a little while. Now I'm not saying we should get credit for that time we were, I just want to point out a major reason there are so few accounts able to claim those high end rewards.

Now, we all know that UO is on the back nine. Is it realistic to believe that players opening up their account for the first time today are going to ever be able to achieve those rewards? Does anyone really think UO will still be running for another 12 years? As much as I'd like to think it would be I just can't believe it.

That is why they are called "Veteran" Rewards, I guess........

To gratify those players who are actual "veterans" of playing the game, the longer the better......

Now, those starting the game now ?

The key to a good Veteran Rewards plan is to have rewards that are interesting and appealing for every year so that those who may be first year now, could still be interested in making it second year to earn those particular Vet rewards.

Those who are second year now, should find interesting the third year so to be interested to keep their account active to qualify for the 3rd year Vet rewards and so forth.

The highest end ones ?

Well, the ladder should have increasing degrees and it makes all sense to me that a 12th year Vet reward might sound way more interesting than a 1st year reward.

As you said, not many players stayed loyal to the game for so long and, IMHO, those who did deserve all the love from the company who owns the game for supporting it with their subscriptions for so many years, continuously.

Point being, is if they had highly desirable items for sale on uogamecodes.com more people would be able to obtain these items, and extra revenue could be added to the game which will in the long run keep it going a little bit longer. I really don't see a downside to the issue. Great, reward the few vets who stuck it out for 12 years, but also realize that the majority of the playerbase is younger than that and many of them would be more than willing to pay for these items.

I really disagree.

Making them available to non veterans by codes purchase would make the veteran rewards much less usefull in motivating players to maintain their accounts active even at times they may think to deactivate them and, consequentially, I think they would overall generate less revenues for the game.

It would be more money short term, but not long term.

I noticed that players tend to play a game for a few months and then move on. Allowing veteran rewards to be sold as codes would be yet another reason less for players to keep playing the game for a longer time.

Since the biggest investment for a game, IMHO, is the development phase which often goes on for years, running a game for a longer time helps recovering the investment better than in a burst of a few months or a year.

What I am trying to say, is that I think it is better to have a game with less players, but loyal ones, run for a long time, rather than have a game with a higher number of players who play it for a shorter time and then move on.

That is, my opinion is that building a steady and loyal base of customers to be carried over the years that the game exists is a good thing and Veteran Rewards, if well done (and not obtainable other than through the Veteran Rewards), can contribute to achieve that.

At least, that is my opinion of it.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

I agree with POPS

and a line to your poll.
LET VET REWARDS stay VET REWARDS.

 

[Black Sun]

Making desirable rewards for the long time players is a good idea on paper. But for someone who's been playing for 3 years and is on the fence about staying or quitting, them having to wait another 9 years to get an item they want is not exactly motivating. Now if they were able to buy a code for that item they might just stick around a bit longer.

Vet rewards were a good motivator back when they were first put in and the game was still young. Now its just another hurdle for newer players to overcome somehow. If I were to start a new game and see that I would have to play for 10+ years to get certain items that is not a good motivator for me to stick around. Yes, give the vets with 12 year accounts something. Maybe a gametime code for a free month each year, or a free advance character or transfer token. But at this stage saying "you can have this item when you have been here for 12 years" when odds are the game may not even be here for another 12 years is crazy. When the numbers drop to the point where subscriptions are not enough to cover the cost of keeping the game running they are going to close it, no matter how many loyal players they have left. And anyone who thinks that day is never going to come is crazy, as is anyone who decides they're going to sink 12 years worth of subscripton fees just to get a set of tiles to let them jump between houses.

My point is, these rewards (while nice for the accounts already at 12 years) are not enough to make people stick around just to earn them. It seems to me EA should be making the money now while they still can by placing items like this in the game code store.

 

[Pinco]

veteran rewards actually are already for sale in player shops so why EA dont do that?
For me the veteran rewards = free item, if you want it without wait just spend some real money...

EA should become smart and start to sell everything like the player shops... so they will earn more money by uogamecodes and can lower our subscription fee

 

[popps]

Making desirable rewards for the long time players is a good idea on paper. But for someone who's been playing for 3 years and is on the fence about staying or quitting, them having to wait another 9 years to get an item they want is not exactly motivating. Now if they were able to buy a code for that item they might just stick around a bit longer.

I see it a good thing that Veteran Rewards cannot be bought as codes when their purpose is to reward "veteran" players who stayed loyal and supported the game for so long. Allowing them to be sold as codes, IMHO, would basically empty the meaning of being rewards to "veteran" players.

Why should someone who is 3rd year necessarily be only interested in 12th years rewards ? As I said, if 4th year Vet rewards were also appealing, though less than the higher years, a 3rd year player would still have reasons to look forward and move on year by year along the ladder of Veteran rewards.

But at this stage saying "you can have this item when you have been here for 12 years" when odds are the game may not even be here for another 12 years is crazy.

I don't know, I wonder in 1997 how many really thought that in 2009 Ultima Online would still be running on servers across the world.........

 

[Black Sun]

I don't know, I wonder in 1997 how many really thought that in 2009 Ultima Online would still be running on servers across the world.........

12 years is astounding. 24 is damn near impossible. I'd be very surprised if UO were still around when I'm in my 40's.

 

[Harb]

I really don't mind if they sell vet reward tokens. I do mind, and mind greatly, if they now decide to sell a specific vet reward after so many of us have already used our 12 year selections for them. But if EA/ Mythic/ Dev wants more infusion into the revenue stream and wants to sell a comprehensive use token at $9.99, by all means proceed, provided the account age requirements remain intact.

 

[Aboo]

As one of those players who has remained a loyal AND continuously active player since the game began, it would annoy me beyond belief if they gave us vet rewards to reward us for our loyal time playing and then turned around and sold them to anyone who had the money.

As it is they have made it so that you can now buy an already claimed vet reward on an account not old enough to get it and can use it on that account. I have no problem with that as it was an account old enough to claim it that had to get it in the first place.

This may appear selfish on my part but I believe that I deserve being rewarded for sticking with UO through all the changes that have caused many a player to either quit or take a break.

 

[nightstalker22]

This may appear selfish on my part but I believe that I deserve being rewarded for sticking with UO through all the changes that have caused many a player to either quit or take a break.

Nobody plays the game for the yearly rewards, they are just perks and not even necessary. Were there never rewards introduced into the game, would you still be playing? Of course you would. Dont fault the devs for giving bonuses, dont treat the rewards as if they are required, they are gifts.

If someone were to give you a gift, would you be upset if your neighbor bought the same thing? Why should you? You got yours for free!

 

[nightstalker22]

I really don't mind if they sell vet reward tokens. I do mind, and mind greatly, if they now decide to sell a specific vet reward after so many of us have already used our 12 year selections for them. But if EA/ Mythic/ Dev wants more infusion into the revenue stream and wants to sell a comprehensive use token at $9.99, by all means proceed, provided the account age requirements remain intact.

The value of the yearly reward selection is the same, you can spend your point on a 1st year reward, second, third, etc... you decided to spend your point on a 12th year reward, so what? next year you'll get another point to spend.

 

[nightstalker22]

Making desirable rewards for the long time players is a good idea on paper. But for someone who's been playing for 3 years and is on the fence about staying or quitting, them having to wait another 9 years to get an item they want is not exactly motivating. Now if they were able to buy a code for that item they might just stick around a bit longer.

Vet rewards were a good motivator back when they were first put in and the game was still young. Now its just another hurdle for newer players to overcome somehow. If I were to start a new game and see that I would have to play for 10+ years to get certain items that is not a good motivator for me to stick around. Yes, give the vets with 12 year accounts something. Maybe a gametime code for a free month each year, or a free advance character or transfer token. But at this stage saying "you can have this item when you have been here for 12 years" when odds are the game may not even be here for another 12 years is crazy. When the numbers drop to the point where subscriptions are not enough to cover the cost of keeping the game running they are going to close it, no matter how many loyal players they have left. And anyone who thinks that day is never going to come is crazy, as is anyone who decides they're going to sink 12 years worth of subscripton fees just to get a set of tiles to let them jump between houses.

My point is, these rewards (while nice for the accounts already at 12 years) are not enough to make people stick around just to earn them. It seems to me EA should be making the money now while they still can by placing items like this in the game code store.

I completely agree. This is a well thought out post.

 

[Harb]

...This may appear selfish on my part...

Not selfish at all, a valid opinion in every way. Where I differ, is IMO, if EA wants to sell them for continued revenue, I have no heartburn with that. Player vendors sell them. Aftermarket sites sell them. I can't recall if it was Chrissay or Sakkarah, but one of our dev folks posted in a vet rewards thread and mentioned they never use their own vet reward selections, they simply shop around for what they want. Players should feel comfortable using their selections, not hesitant because you never know what the future may hold.

I suppose one could argue I'm being selfish as well, while I have no beef with game codes store sells (assuming they fix the site so everyine can actually "shop" there), I do want to see account age continue to matter. Also just an opinion, but I think it's that part of the equation that holds relevence, and I'd like to see it "protected."

 

[Aboo]

Nobody plays the game for the yearly rewards, they are just perks and not even necessary. Were there never rewards introduced into the game, would you still be playing? Of course you would. Dont fault the devs for giving bonuses, dont treat the rewards as if they are required, they are gifts.

If someone were to give you a gift, would you be upset if your neighbor bought the same thing? Why should you? You got yours for free!

I will try to put this in terms maybe you can understand.

I love UO, I would be playing no matter what. AND I don't treat the rewards as if they are required. They are rewards. Rewards are given for a reason are they not? In this case the reward is for my loyalty and longevity in playing UO. However, all the little "perks" they give us do give me incentive to NOT ever make my account inactive.

When I started there were no vet rewards. Then they gave them to us, I believe, as an incentive to do just what I have done - continue playing/paying without quitting, taking a break, etc.

Have you heard the saying that you can promote someone but you cannot demote him at least and have the expectation of them staying with you/the company? That's what giving us 12 year veterans vet rewards for our loyalty over those years and then making them available to anyone who wants to buy them. Naturally it would irritate a great many of us.

You are entitled to your opinion just as I am. As a 12-year loyal, continuously playing player, I have just given you my opinion.

 

[DHMagicMan_1]

I don't see how getting something for FREE when others can buy them, is a slam to "Vets".

Also I don't see why every year needs to add to the "timeline" of vet items... I'd rather see everything distributed between 1-10 (save for maybe colored clothing) and once you are past 10 you get extra picks instead of items more restricted.

 

[Gheed]

If they would have swaped reward teleporter tiles and real money xtra char slots/storage increase I bet they would have made a mint. Oh well.

I'd like to see linking tele tiles offered in the house deco tool. Place it in each house and bind them through an extra menu in the deco tool or something along those lines. So the 12 year reward still has value as you can place it in classic homes, castles & Keeps. Set the custom tool tile prices at 5-10 mil. So a set would still cost 10-20 mil and you could always delete them to get your money back.

One more sort of OT suggestion for the IDOCers. Have the falling houses drop a placement tool somewhere randomly in the space the falling house occupied. Selling the tool to an npc would deposit a check for the value of the fallen home in your bank.

 

[nightstalker22]

I don't see how getting something for FREE when others can buy them, is a slam to "Vets".

Also I don't see why every year needs to add to the "timeline" of vet items... I'd rather see everything distributed between 1-10 (save for maybe colored clothing) and once you are past 10 you get extra picks instead of items more restricted.

Thats a good idea.

Give the players over ten years 6 picks per year instead of 1, and move all the items into the 1 to 5 year range ( except colored robes that would distinguish vets from younger at a glance ).

 

[nightstalker22]

One more sort of OT suggestion for the IDOCers. Have the falling houses drop a placement tool somewhere randomly in the space the falling house occupied. Selling the tool to an npc would deposit a check for the value of the fallen home in your bank.

A collapsed house has no value.

"you want a check for this debris?"

 

[ingsmsico]

I'd pay 5 bucks to be able to go from 1 of my houses to another house via teleporter. For 10 or more I can continue to recall.

 

[popps]

Nobody plays the game for the yearly rewards, they are just perks and not even necessary. Were there never rewards introduced into the game, would you still be playing? Of course you would. Dont fault the devs for giving bonuses, dont treat the rewards as if they are required, they are gifts.

Not necessarily "only" for the vet rewards perhaps, but it can help knowing that if one stays with the game and maintains the account as active THEN one can qualify for some nice and usefull veteran reward thanking to that................

 

[popps]

I don't see how getting something for FREE when others can buy them, is a slam to "Vets".

It sure is a slam, to my opinion, when one player has to play the game 12 years to "earn" it while another can simply buy it with a code the very first day they start playing the game the first time........

It simply throws out of the window the entire reason to have "veteran" rewards in the game, IMHO.

Why should things be purchaseable, always ?

Can't there be items, yes, even desireable items in the game that only time, account time, can earn, not real money ??

Personally, I think that if the rewards need to reward "veteran" players for playing the game for long and maintain their accounts as active for all of this time well then I say yes, by all means the rewards should ONLY be obtainable through account age earning, and not buying a code.

There is already plenty of codes purchaseable, I think it is perfectly ok that some items, yes, even desireable items, are NOT purchaseable as codes but only through account age.

That's what gives to a "veteran" player that nice feeling of meaning something to have sticked with a game for so long, supporting it no matter what.

Also I don't see why every year needs to add to the "timeline" of vet items... I'd rather see everything distributed between 1-10 (save for maybe colored clothing) and once you are past 10 you get extra picks instead of items more restricted.

The restriction is the whole reason to have "veteran" rewards.

Unless some rewards only pertain to "that" given year than it would make low years the same as high end years which would make the whole concept of "veteran" rewards pointless.

 

[Xenobia]

Forgive me if this has already been brought up because I am tired and do not want to take the time to read EVERY post but has anyone thought of those individuals who go out and purchase a 12+ year account and automatically get the vet rewards? Not really a vet reward or a loyal UO fan if you ask me. I have been very loyal to UO and have never NOT had an account open since day one, but I also have accounts that used to belong to others who left to play WoW or whatever. I did not play those accounts all those years but I still reap the rewards. Just tossing that in the mix. I posted earlier that I did not think they should be sold on gamecodes but the more I think about it, the more I feel like EA is missing out on a huge money making opportunity. The tiles can be used by anyone and you can already purchase the SS...why not make these available? *braces for the flames*

 

[Aislin*SP]

I voted yes ($19.99) in the poll - I'd spend money on it.

I'm at 142 months - almost there. And I still think that this item should be available to more than just the oldest vets.

Two of our other most popular rewards can be purchased - soul stones and charger of the fallen - because they're so incredibly useful (and EA can make good money selling them!) I would really love to see this item available in the store as well.

 

[nightstalker22]

Forgive me if this has already been brought up because I am tired and do not want to take the time to read EVERY post but has anyone thought of those individuals who go out and purchase a 12+ year account and automatically get the vet rewards? Not really a vet reward or a loyal UO fan if you ask me. I have been very loyal to UO and have never NOT had an account open since day one, but I also have accounts that used to belong to others who left to play WoW or whatever. I did not play those accounts all those years but I still reap the rewards. Just tossing that in the mix. I posted earlier that I did not think they should be sold on gamecodes but the more I think about it, the more I feel like EA is missing out on a huge money making opportunity. The tiles can be used by anyone and you can already purchase the SS...why not make these available? *braces for the flames*

The vets want justification for the $1,200.00+ they spent over the years, as if the enjoyment of the game wasn't enough.

They are elitists with entitlement issues, they don't see the rewards as privilege, but rather their right.

They behave as if they need advantages over the newer players, because they haven't learned how to have all the advantages in 12 years time?

If they don't share their toys and allow EA to make as much money as possible from this, there wont be anyone to play in their sandbox with them... there wont be a sandbox.

 

[mjolnir131]

You can't recall into a house, The teleporter tiles are just making UO easier. If everyone had one.. It really would be a lazy game. Next people would want a bank in their house and they won't need to leave their homes at all...

remeber when we use to lure bankers to our house and lock them in a closet?

 

[jfkeach]

Isn't Soulstones a vet reward? Yes, I think it is. So, now you got the SSF's as a anniversary item. You can craft them. You can buy them from EA. And they do sell in game for about 15 mil for the token.

So, I say, why not. Sell them. I am not year year old account, and would like. But what makes them special to 12 year vets? You didnt have to pay for them out of pocket. I have two 11 year accounts, one 3 year and one 2 year. Even if i could buy the vet rewards ones in game, I am not old enough to actually place.

Allow the vet ones to be dyed. The bought ones or even crafted ones not. Woohoo.. Aint that special?

 

[popps]

...... has anyone thought of those individuals who go out and purchase a 12+ year account and automatically get the vet rewards? Not really a vet reward or a loyal UO fan if you ask me. I have been very loyal to UO and have never NOT had an account open since day one,

I can understand that, and there could, possibly, be a way to make sure that the Veteran Reward might go to the actual Veterans who have stayed with the game for that long.

How ? Well, for example one possibility could be that to claim them one should provide the original registration code, the one that was on the CD jewel case.
Those who may have lost it, could contact a customer service representative and, upon providing correct information on, for example, the credit card originally used to register the account, they could receive a code in replacement for the lost one.

Just an idea as others could come up but all I am trying to say is that if the idea is that actual veteran players should receive the vet rewards and not players who are using the old account but did not stay with the game for that long, perhaps ways could be found to achieve that.

Or, one could think that it is the account that earns the reward and so, regardless the player, it is fine that the account might earn the reward if it has been maintained active all the time.

Bottom line is, IMHO, that regardless whether it is the long time player or the account that might deserve the veteran reward I am of the opinion that in no case such reward should be purchaseable as a code to players.

Not if the veteran rewards want to actually reward "veteran" players or accounts that they may be.

 

[popps]

The vets want justification for the $1,200.00+ they spent over the years, as if the enjoyment of the game wasn't enough.

They are elitists with entitlement issues, they don't see the rewards as privilege, but rather their right.

They behave as if they need advantages over the newer players, because they haven't learned how to have all the advantages in 12 years time?

If they don't share their toys and allow EA to make as much money as possible from this, there wont be anyone to play in their sandbox with them... there wont be a sandbox.

I do not understand the point.

I mean, there are hundreds, perhaps thousands of items in the game, available to all players and I do not see the point of discussing about a few items designed as a reward to loyal Veteran Players/active accounts.

I mean, we have been playing the game for many years without teleporter tiles and ethereal tools, for example, so I would imagine that it is possible to keep playing the game without them until one's own account has the age to qualify to pick them.

Why all of a sudden the need to make them a purchaseable code for those players whose account is not old enough to get these veteran rewards ?

I find it difficult to understand that all of a sudden the game might have become less playable for those who do not have a teleporter tile set or an ethereal tool, for example...........

I do not understand.

 

[nightstalker22]

I do not understand the point.

I mean, there are hundreds, perhaps thousands of items in the game, available to all players and I do not see the point of discussing about a few items designed as a reward to loyal Veteran Players/active accounts.

I mean, we have been playing the game for many years without teleporter tiles and ethereal tools, for example, so I would imagine that it is possible to keep playing the game without them until one's own account has the age to qualify to pick them.

Why all of a sudden the need to make them a purchaseable code for those players whose account is not old enough to get these veteran rewards ?

I find it difficult to understand that all of a sudden the game might have become less playable for those who do not have a teleporter tile set or an ethereal tool, for example...........

I do not understand.

You are correct, there isn't a NEED, it is simply a WANT by the paying player base. Companies that appease their customers excell.

 

[Connor_Graham]

it is simply a WANT

Want in one hand and **** in the other. See which one fills up first.

 

[Black Sun]

You are correct, there isn't a NEED, it is simply a WANT by the paying player base. Companies that appease their customers excell.

I had to quote this again, because its the important part of this discussion. If they were to offer them for sale a lot of people would buy them. Which means more money being put into EA's coffers to keep the game running longer.

 

[Aboo]

I had to quote this again, because its the important part of this discussion. If they were to offer them for sale a lot of people would buy them. Which means more money being put into EA's coffers to keep the game running longer.

You are probably right in regards to this. However, it might actually anger those players who have stuck with them through thick and thin too. It would not, for me personally, cause me to quit. However, it might entice me to whittle down the accounts that I currently pay monthly for.

Maybe my trust is misplaced, but I just can't see EA giving the longest playing vets rewards and then allowing the exact same reward to be bought by any person who has the money to buy them irregardless of the amount of time they have been playing.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

I had to quote this again, because its the important part of this discussion. If they were to offer them for sale a lot of people would buy them. Which means more money being put into EA's coffers to keep the game running longer.

How much more money?

Because its a reward it should stay a reward.
It may not help the 5 year vet stay but might keep the 10 year vet around.

Its all relative.

I dont even want one. I just recall to my front steps. Its kind of silly.


BUT identifying what to sell to help EA I agree with.

Id rather have a 12th year basement attached to my house.
Or be able to buy a basement.
Or have basements as gold sinks.

 

[Mession]

I agree with POPS

and a line to your poll.
LET VET REWARDS stay VET REWARDS.

+1

Mession

 

[Black Sun]

How much more money?

as much as they can get.

Because its a reward it should stay a reward.
It may not help the 5 year vet stay but might keep the 10 year vet around.

Just because it's for sale doesn't mean it can't still be a reward. Price it at $29.99. The vets can save 30 bucks if they claim a set. The rest of us have to pay for them. Sounds fair to me.

 

[popps]

I had to quote this again, because its the important part of this discussion. If they were to offer them for sale a lot of people would buy them. Which means more money being put into EA's coffers to keep the game running longer.

I think it as wrong.

It would be perhaps more money "short" term but the good money is the long term one, not the short term, IMHO.

It takes years upon years of development before being able to get a game running public and have it play in a burst with players moving onto some other games because they got timely what they wanted, does not look to me as a good thing.

Much better having a game that has LOYAL customers sticking with it over the years, for long. It cost more to create a game than to maintain it as running, as I see it.
And in one year, an account on average brings to the game about 120 bucks...

So, I think that Veteran Rewards that motivate players to stick being loyal to the game and support it over time maintaining their accounts as active in the end, long term, plays a better role than making some fast money but having players burn their game experience fast and move onto some other games after a short while thus no longer supporting the game for their accounts getting deactivated.

At least, that's my opinion about it.

 

[Rocklin]

How much more money?

BUT identifying what to sell to help EA I agree with.

Id rather have a 12th year basement attached to my house.
Or be able to buy a basement.
Or have basements as gold sinks.

Which to be honest is why I took jacks post where he pitched the idea and made a poll. To maybe show Mythic that good ideas will spark more revenues.

 

[Black Sun]

I think it as wrong.

It would be perhaps more money "short" term but the good money is the long term one, not the short term, IMHO.

It takes years upon years of development before being able to get a game running public and have it play in a burst with players moving onto some other games because they got timely what they wanted, does not look to me as a good thing.

Much better having a game that has LOYAL customers sticking with it over the years, for long. It cost more to create a game than to maintain it as running, as I see it.
And in one year, an account on average brings to the game about 120 bucks...

So, I think that Veteran Rewards that motivate players to stick being loyal to the game and support it over time maintaining their accounts as active in the end, long term, plays a better role than making some fast money but having players burn their game experience fast and move onto some other games after a short while thus no longer supporting the game for their accounts getting deactivated.

At least, that's my opinion about it.

Pixels will not keep someone from quitting if they want to quit. Having desirable items for 12 year vets is not going to make people stay. It's a reward for those who did. Vet rewards are rewards, not incentives.