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Support my thread on UHall about stupid trammel house rules

kelmo

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Not going to win this one I believe, Freja. This house hider PvP fix has been asked for by PvPers for a long time. I am not sure they could separate Siege from the other shards on this rule.
 

FrejaSP

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Then make it so it only happen when you attack something outside the house
 

FrejaSP

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I will win it
Don't tell me anyone on Siege like this
 
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chise2

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Yeah it sucks for Siege. But to be honest I would not be surprised if they donlt change anything :( Or we will be waiting awhile for a change.
 

Kael

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If your house is public all non friended players should be grey
You should not be able to access your house if your flagged
You should be booted from your house if you attack someone outside
You should not be booted from your house by auto defending against from an outside attack
 

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Why do you call this trammel house rules? These house rules have NOTHING to do with Trammel.
This is the best thing to happen to UO PvP in a while.

Its house fighting. Nobody likes house fighting. This makes things way more fun now since people can't hide in a house.

You want to spar/duel people, take it to the Arena or do it in a barren wasteland (middle of malas).

I see nothing wrong with this change.
 
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Rumpy

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Yeah it sucks for Siege. But to be honest I would not be surprised if they donlt change anything :( Or we will be waiting awhile for a change.
Why does it suck for Siege..?
 

FrejaSP

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Why do you call this trammel house rules? These house rules have NOTHING to do with Trammel.
This is the best thing to happen to UO PvP in a while.

Its house fighting. Nobody likes house fighting. This makes things way more fun now since people can't hide in a house.

You want to spar/duel people, take it to the Arena or do it in a barren wasteland (middle of malas).

I see nothing wrong with this change.
I think it is a poor fix, as the pain from it is very big, I hate it.
Siege is sure been a Trammy place.
In the past, we would punishe bad actions. Why not dry loot this house hiders when you get them, punishe them fot their action. Siege do not need the system to babysit us
 
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Rumpy

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I think it is a poor fix, as the pain from it is very big, I hate it.
Siege is sure been a Trammy place.
In the past, we would punishe bad actions. Why not dry loot this house hiders when you get them, punishe them fot their action. Siege do not need the system to babysit us
Can't dryloot someone who dies inside their house and doesn't lose their gear.
 

FrejaSP

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I guess I will back off, I'm starting to relax now, but I still not like this changes and find we should had had a say, before it did hit Siege
 

tangar

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I agree with Freja (wrote a few letter is the topic).

May be we have to create poll topic: how do you feel about house PvP?

To understand everyone opinion.
 

HoldenCaulfield

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It is a bit of a nuissance when just logging in to get your fighting skill gains. I can't just duel client and hit my other character for the gain anymore without getting booted from my house of which both characters are co-owners.
 

Ducky Momo

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It is a bit of a nuissance when just logging in to get your fighting skill gains. I can't just duel client and hit my other character for the gain anymore without getting booted from my house of which both characters are co-owners.
If they are in the same guild they can still do this.
 

Sprago

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i think i like it, this stops people from house fighting. Arenas work great for those that want to practice/spar. The biggest thing is if your fighting a guild member this isnt an issue.

BTW making people fight outside cant be considered trammy i mean really it makes you fight outside in the elements how is that trammel
 

tangar

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Damm just yestarday I got kicked several times. Can't train PvP, cant have sparrying in house. WTF! Its so stupid!

We have to make petition to fix it!
 
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Adrianas

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i think i like it, this stops people from house fighting. Arenas work great for those that want to practice/spar. The biggest thing is if your fighting a guild member this isnt an issue.

BTW making people fight outside cant be considered trammy i mean really it makes you fight outside in the elements how is that trammel
I heard that even if you whack a guildmate you get kicked out - if you move at all.
 

FrejaSP

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I heard that even if you whack a guildmate you get kicked out - if you move at all.
I was sparring with a guildmade yesterday, non of us was kicked. I think it's crim flaging that do it, may be possible to sparre with a red too, if the blue attack, had not tested it yet but will
 

UncleSham

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i have confirmed that guild members can spar , but alliance members get booted to the lawn .
perhaps if we asked them to include alliance members , or maybe those in a party, it would help alleviate some of the stress this is bringing . i agree we should let them have their fix , but maybe we can get them to tweak it a little.
 

Adrianas

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i have confirmed that guild members can spar , but alliance members get booted to the lawn .
perhaps if we asked them to include alliance members , or maybe those in a party, it would help alleviate some of the stress this is bringing . i agree we should let them have their fix , but maybe we can get them to tweak it a little.
I like your idea of party members being able to spar - that should be an easier "fix" than anything else, I would think!
 

FrejaSP

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i have confirmed that guild members can spar , but alliance members get booted to the lawn .
perhaps if we asked them to include alliance members , or maybe those in a party, it would help alleviate some of the stress this is bringing . i agree we should let them have their fix , but maybe we can get them to tweak it a little.
I agree, it would help to include alliance and party members but I still not like it :p
 

Celestial Knight

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This too me shouldnt be allowed if i am in my house and defend myself and a player alot more powerfull or in most case's a pker running like a pack of wolf's .<unfair fight plus no way to win.They wish to field fight that is their decision if they come looking for me and i am in the house then that is where i should stay in the house defending myself from a bully ,Guess i could call the police aka gm but then again why >it's ultima online rule if i do not like it i can just close down account's or move out of fel .meaning it's uo way or the highway...The one rule if i was outside and i am attacked and i attack back i am unable to get in my house okay this i can understand .
 

kelmo

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*nods* Party members would work. Excellent idea.
 

Adrianas

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It occurs to me that more important than this "fighting inside a house" thing goes is the fact that those outside can cast field spells and such into houses. That is just so stupid (that they can do that). Does this stop that? (I don't think it does.)
 

Sir Morder

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House fighting has been going on for ever. There's been house fighting on siege since siege was born. It got worse after luna was created. And it's been happening ever since so why now a complaint? Getting kicked out of a house when attacking someone outside is not new either. I just don't understand the complaints that's all.
 
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