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Suggestion

Mervyn

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The 'Brittle' tag should be added to all armour that has been imbued as they are indeed brittle.

The 'Brittle' tag should be added to all faction artifacts as they are indeed brittle.

I tell you the truth
 

weins201

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Wrong, Bad Idea, Imbued Items already not POF, factrion items however?

:thumbdown:Imbued Items are not POF once they are made and therefore will eventually die. Get over it.:mf_prop:

:party:Faction items are just one of the worst ideas ever and should just go away.:rant2:
 

PJay

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Lool I urge you to read the op!

Brittle means cannot be pof'd therefore the Brittle tag should be applied to imbued items and faction arties.
 

weins201

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you guys are both just goading for an argument but anyhow Brittle is a Property sooo

it would take up another spot and there lower imbuable properties so again


NOOOOOOOO

BAD


IDEA
 

Shamus Turlough

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Re: you guys are both just goading for an argument but anyhow Brittle is a Property s

You keep using this word brittle. I do not think you know what it means.


Brittle means it loses 3x durability per hit... Brittle != imbued.
 

PJay

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Is that true? Never heard that!

Brittle is an item property found on some items. Items with this property cannot be fortified and so can never have their durability increased.
From uoguide im aware this is not allways correct!

New Property : Brittle. These items cannot be fortified.
From Publish 67 notes
 

Ezekiel Zane

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Brittle items cannot be fortified and neither can imbued items. Adding 'brittle' to imbued items would change very little.

You PoF an item BEFORE you imbue it.

The only thing 'Brittle' would add is the item would lose durability faster.
 

PJay

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The only thing 'Brittle' would add is the item would lose durability faster.
Can you tell me where this information was aquired? never seen it in patch notes unless ive missed something and ive looked thru the notes on uo.com and not found anything to suggest this is how brittle works.

Cheers
 
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RavenWinterHawk

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Imbued items are brittle but they are POF'd before they become imbued. Except for when I have brain lag and imbue with 68 durability.


Therefore I think what you want to say is that Imbued items should start with a lower number then 255.

Be honest folks... 255 will last pretty much for ever.
 

PJay

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Not at all!

According to patch notes Brittle means an item cannot be pof'd.

If this is the case then imbued items should have the brittle tag because they can no longer be pof'd.

This is unless the claims that brittle also looses durability faster than normal items however ive found no evidence of this in any publish or patch notes so im not sure the claims are correct.
 

Mirt

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It would be a useless waste of resources. Once something is imbued it cannot be pof'ed. So why bothering using dev resources to code something this way already? If we are talking about having the durability drop more, then why? There doesn't seem to be much need for that. Lets let the devs focus on more important things.
 

PJay

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Its about making it more transparent. Once an item has been imbued it should have the Brittle tag.

Unless someone can point me to a reliable source stating brittle items loose durability at a faster rate.
 
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Smokin

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This would be just another tag on an item, because it would have to say imbued and brittle not just brittle. So why bother.
 

Mirt

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Its about making it more transparent. Once an item has been imbued it should have the Brittle tag.

Unless someone can point me to a reliable source stating brittle items loose durability at a faster rate.
So what your really saying is that you would like imbued items to not say imbued but powder of fortification cannot be added? Brittle doesn't mean anything unless you learn what it is its the same for imbuing the only thing that would add transparancy would be that.
 

PJay

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huh? you cannot pof imbued items nor brittle items?

Therefore Imbued items are Brittle.

The pof is added to a normal item as normal.
 

Mirt

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The two are different. One is a property that appears to take weight and has been linked to durability loss. Also imbued already means something cannot have power of fortification added to it by definition. There is no need to spend time on something that isn't broken.
 

Mervyn

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The brittle tag should also be added to replica weapons/armour as they are indeed brittle.

The brittle tag should replace the 'imbued' tag as the brittle tag is not a moc and holds no weight. The information on armour that the piece is 'imbued' is of no relevance.
 

Mervyn

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A lot of people ask me how come the devs take an interest in the things I say/propose and ignore their opinions.

One of the reasons may be that with suggestions like this, I demonstrate how I care about the game and its new players and unlike most, the changes that i suggest aim to simplify the game and are not for self gain.

This change is in no way pvp related and demonstrates a clear improvement to all players.
 

Xalan Dementia

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...... what is goin on here?

First off, someone show proof that "Brittle" leads to increased durability lose higher than normal. I have been wearing brittle items since they first were introduced and they all lose durability in line with any other item.

Second off, its already common knowledge that all imbued items cannot be Powdered up, so adding Brittle to the tag would just be a waste of time and would only be for the one or two new players out there that did not know it. Instead of wasting time and resources adding a pointless line of text to items, lets work on informing new players of the websites they can find Game information.

Adding it to replicas and faction junk wouldnt be a bad idea since its not as common knowledge that those are unpowderable.
 
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Smokin

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The brittle tag should also be added to replica weapons/armour as they are indeed brittle.

The brittle tag should replace the 'imbued' tag as the brittle tag is not a moc and holds no weight. The information on armour that the piece is 'imbued' is of no relevance.
If you replace the imbued tag with brittle then how would you know if its been imbued already.
 

Mervyn

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If you replace the imbued tag with brittle then how would you know if its been imbued already.
You would not, there is no need to know.

If you can think of a scenario where it would be handy/useful to know, please let me know.
 

Goldberg-Chessy

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A lot of people ask me how come the devs take an interest in the things I say/propose and ignore their opinions.

One of the reasons may be that with suggestions like this, I demonstrate how I care about the game and its new players and unlike most, the changes that i suggest aim to simplify the game and are not for self gain.

This change is in no way pvp related and demonstrates a clear improvement to all players.

You quite obviously have no idea how your suggestion affects actual gameplay. current Brittle items lose insane amounts of durability very quickly. It is not just about inability to POF as you keep trying to claim. This alone invalidates your entire idea.

Even though I play Factions I wouldnt care if their items lost durability and broke daily as they are insanely easy and cheap to replace and the whole Faction system itself does nothing but promote item-based ganking.

That being said I would have huge issue with current non-Faction imbued items breaking quickly as I(like most other players im sure)disgustedly sold or tossed almost all of my insane old non-imbued armor. I had spent a few years burning high end kits and x-sharding to pay alot for great armor/weapons and almost all of it became useless overnight when imbuing came out.
Sure, I still got decent gold for the best pieces but there is no way that anyone should have to start over again without warning or justifiable cause(and I see no justifiable cause in your ideas)
I have not liked imbuing since day one as I loved to trade/collect but it is what it is. And it works well now for the most part(like everything else)

Bottom line is that IMO there is no viable reason for ruining all current imbued armor. And your idea would do exactly that.
New players that are serious about playing can get high end gear within a few months and that is as it should be.
New players that are not so serious obviously do not need high end gear so are also fine & not affected by other vet players using high end gear.

So whats your point again?
 

Mervyn

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Brittle items do not lose durability faster than non brittle items.

Regards

Mervyn
 

Lynk

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The 'Brittle' tag should be added to all faction artifacts as they are indeed brittle.
Not really dude, because....

Powder of Perseverance - 300 silver - On use, player can target a faction artifact reward to reset total durability on it. Each time the player uses a recharge on the item, the total durability will decrease (1st time 225/225, 2nd time 200/200, etc.). Faction artifacts can be recharged a maximum of 5 times.

This change that you recommend is not only inaccurate, but offers no real value in any way, shape, or form.
 

Mervyn

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Not really dude, because....

Powder of Perseverance - 300 silver - On use, player can target a faction artifact reward to reset total durability on it. Each time the player uses a recharge on the item, the total durability will decrease (1st time 225/225, 2nd time 200/200, etc.). Faction artifacts can be recharged a maximum of 5 times.

This change that you recommend is not only inaccurate, but offers no real value in any way, shape, or form.
Lynk lynk lynk, that is true about powder of perserverance, however faction artifacts can be repaired through normal means, i don't know why anyone would ever use that awful powder.

Well i say that, i think it's just repair deeds that don't work on faction equipment, you can repair anything using an actual craftsman

Here's an example where this would improve the game:

http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/258562-replica-items.html
 

PJay

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Haha yeah im Still after a few years scratching my head over Powder of Perseverance why?? *scratch* nope still why?!

300 - silver to reduce the life of my wep please! OR 1 durabilty lost and your silver safe?
 

Lynk

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Lynk lynk lynk, that is true about powder of perserverance, however faction artifacts can be repaired through normal means, i don't know why anyone would ever use that awful powder.

Well i say that, i think it's just repair deeds that don't work on faction equipment, you can repair anything using an actual craftsman
Mervyn, mervyn, mervyn, you're missing the point. You repair it through normal means until you get down to like 10/10 durability. You use the powder of perserverance and then it goes back up to 225..... Clearly that is why someone would use the 'awful powder'.

You say faction artifacts are brittle. I say they aren't, because they can be POP'd (powder of perseveranced). Brittle items can't have that happen.

Case and point, they shouldn't have the brittle tag added.
 

PJay

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*stops scratching* Finally the truth shall set you free!

thanks Lynk
 

Nyses

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Lynk lynk lynk, that is true about powder of perserverance, however faction artifacts can be repaired through normal means, i don't know why anyone would ever use that awful powder.

Well i say that, i think it's just repair deeds that don't work on faction equipment, you can repair anything using an actual craftsman

Here's an example where this would improve the game:

http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/258562-replica-items.html
Um, I feel compelled to point out that you can in fact use repair deeds on faction items, in tram and in fel.
 

Mervyn

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Not really dude, because....

Powder of Perseverance - 300 silver - On use, player can target a faction artifact reward to reset total durability on it. Each time the player uses a recharge on the item, the total durability will decrease (1st time 225/225, 2nd time 200/200, etc.). Faction artifacts can be recharged a maximum of 5 times.
Lynk,

Although it is indeed true that brittle should mean that the item can never be fortified, powder of perseverance would indeed defy the 'brittle' code, However;

Bare in mind that currently you can actually increase the durability of current brittle items by these 2 methods:

a) enhancing the item with a metal that increases durability

b) altering the item to be gargoyle, example, if you wear a brittle piece of armour down to 1/1 durability, you can alter it to gargoyle and it's durability will be returned back to 150/150 or whatever it started on.

I will accept though you raised an interesting point, however the brittle tag should indeed replace the 'imbued tag' and should be added to replicas that cannot be fortified.
 
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