Stratics HoC Chat, (With my questions unanswered, glitched goes the weasel)

[Mitzlplik_SP]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

To bad no one got any Siege questions answered. I don`t really care for part of this question :

" *Tazar* The Siege shard hates having blessed event spellbooks, bonded pets, a lack of visibility on the new player shard listing.. is any attention being paid to us? "

"The Siege shard" is a pretty broad statement on the no bonded pets thing.

Long as its something thats related to and only to pvp situations, I could care less but boning everyone with pets that don`t bond would be just plain stupid and I`m sure a deal breaker for alot of peaple. I don`t even have a tamer here and ain`t planning on having one but screwing peaple out of bonded pets for making money on the pve side is not the answer.

Just my thoughts. I liked the rest of the questions,just wish at least one of them would have gotten some attention.

 

[Kiwillian]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

Is that the whole thing?

I thought they were going to talk about factions and stuff etc too.

 

[Sweeney]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

That's the entire log.. even with my newbie questions as to who I ask questions to.

 

[Sweeney]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

I'm still convinced Nhbdy is an EA stool pigeon. It seems like all of his questions were answered.

 

[Tazar]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

I'm still convinced Nhbdy is an EA stool pigeon. It seems like all of his questions were answered.

Sweeney is telling fibs to you all - plain and simple. The questions in bold were NEVER asked to me - or by me. These are his additions to the chat log - after the fact.

Nhbdy is an Atlantic News Reporter that took many questions from friends to ask. He asked a lot!!! so of course, there is a much better chance of more of them being answered.

 

[Tazar]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

Is that the whole thing?

I thought they were going to talk about factions and stuff etc too.

Factions were a topic open to discussion - but I never saw a question on it...

If you don't ask - there is no chance of it being answered.

 

[Sweeney]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

Sweeney is telling fibs to you all - plain and simple. The questions in bold were NEVER asked to me - or by me. These are his additions to the chat log - after the fact.

Nhbdy is an Atlantic News Reporter that took many questions from friends to ask. He asked a lot!!! so of course, there is a much better chance of more of them being answered.

Umm I don't lie..

/msg Tazar (Question) is how they were asked.

Accusing me of lying is pretty sick.

Why would I edit such a lengthy log with date/time stamps with lies? I even did it semi real-time using the general chat.

 

[Tazar]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

Umm I don't lie..

/msg Tazar (Question) is how they were asked.

Accusing me of lying is pretty sick.

Why would I edit such a lengthy log with date/time stamps with lies? I even did it semi real-time using the general chat.

It's obviously edited - even the format of the parts you added do not match up. There is no place in the IRC Chat that any person's name lists as *Name* Nice try though. We all know your posting style and why you do what you do.

 

[Sweeney]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

It's obviously edited - even the format of the parts you added do not match up. There is no place in the IRC Chat that any person's name lists as *Name* Nice try though. We all know your posting style and why you do what you do.

Umm wow. You've obviously never used mIRC chat logs before.

 

[Sweeney]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

Try it once before you accuse people of things, buddy boy.

 

[Taylor]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

Try it once before you accuse people of things, buddy boy.

Tazar's word versus yours? Hmm . . . that's a toughy.

/sarcasm

 

[Sweeney]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

Tazar's word versus yours? Hmm . . . that's a toughy.

/sarcasm

You really are a kiss-ass aren't you? Just wait a few minutes.

 

[Taylor]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

Tazar's word versus yours? Hmm . . . that's a toughy.

/sarcasm

You really are a kiss-ass aren't you? Just wait a few minutes.

You can't even mount a defense without resorting to name-calling. Tazar, on the other hand, pulls enough weight to get the entire dev team to stay behind after work.

Your respective reputations are more than enough evidence to determine who I'm likely to believe. Moreover, it is clear to me which of you actually has the community's interest at heart.

 

[Sweeney]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

You can't even mount a defense without resorting to name-calling. Tazar, on the other hand, pulls enough weight to get the entire dev team to stay behind after work.

Your respective reputations are more than enough evidence to determine who I'm likely to believe. Moreover, it is clear to me which of you actually has the community's interest at heart.

My word is my reputation.. just wait, puppy dog. Your treat will come at the end.

 

[Tazar]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

OK.... for all the rubberneckers watching this train-wreck...

It seems that the method Sweeney was using to Submit the questions was one that would get it out there, but not in the normal method - so we never saw them. I can't really say it is his fault - and I am going to look into the instructions to make sure that they are clear in the future. If the questions do not come in by PM, they will sadly be lost amongst the 10 or more channels we are trying to manage during the chat.

So... To sum it up. Sweeney asked questions that were never heard due to a technical issue. They were not intentionally ignored. At the next HoC, I will go out of my way to make certain that we get that communications right.

So... now that that issue is cleared up - I do hope everyone enjoyed the chat - and if anyone else has questions, concerns, issues, or needs IRC instructions classes, please send me a PM. The first 3 I will help with - the last one I will attend with...

Can we get back on topic now? ummm.... well... not sure there is a topic to this one anymore...

 

[Sweeney]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

My reputation is saved again despite overwhelming odds!

I hope everyone knows my word means something by now. If not, oh well.

 

[Sweeney]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

I was accused of lying again.. go figure.

My reputation sucks if this is the fallback position and I have to fight to be right (or to a stalemate).

 

[Wulf2k]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

[22:30] -> *Wulf2k* Why did you click on this thread?
[22:30] <Wulf2k> Why did you click on this thread?
[22:31] -> *Wulf2k* I don't know self. I just don't know.
[22:31] <Wulf2k> I don't know self. I just don't know.

 

[Tiberius]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

To bad no one got any Siege questions answered. I don`t really care for part of this question :

" *Tazar* The Siege shard hates having blessed event spellbooks, bonded pets, a lack of visibility on the new player shard listing.. is any attention being paid to us? "

"The Siege shard" is a pretty broad statement on the no bonded pets thing.

Long as its something thats related to and only to pvp situations, I could care less but boning everyone with pets that don`t bond would be just plain stupid and I`m sure a deal breaker for alot of peaple. I don`t even have a tamer here and ain`t planning on having one but screwing peaple out of bonded pets for making money on the pve side is not the answer.

Just my thoughts. I liked the rest of the questions,just wish at least one of them would have gotten some attention.

It's abroad statement in regards to the spellbooks too. It's my opinion that it is a very vocal minority that dislike them. Some of your stronger mage temps cannot be run with that book in hand. removing the book only hurts the poor players as those of us rich enough to afford other options do not use the books often.

 

[Petra Fyde]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

Umm I don't lie..

/msg Tazar (Question) is how they were asked.

Accusing me of lying is pretty sick.

Why would I edit such a lengthy log with date/time stamps with lies? I even did it semi real-time using the general chat.

And here is where the problem lies.

It is absolutely no use doing /msg Tazar when you need to reach the person with the nick [QT]Tazar.

 

[Shh!]

Wow, isn't it funny how two non-Siegers RUSH over here to impugn ("telling fibs" and "it's obviously edited") someone's character but when the original slanderer finally fesses up to his mistake, his cheerleader is conspicuously absent with his apologies? Odd. At least Sweeney now knows how to post question in HoC Chat now

 

[Petra Fyde]

Apologies work both ways.

Tazar did not lie. Sweeney's questions were never asked to him. Tazar did not ignore his questions as he was accused of doing.

Sweeney didn't lie either, however he was messaging to the wrong user name. He should, in fact, have been seeing a 'no such nick or channel' message.

The opening statement of the HoC, which Sweeney did not include in his 'edited' version states:
Zephenia Welcome everyone to the Ultima Online chat on Stratics! Please post your questions to [QT]Tazar and [QT]Kiminality only. The chat will be starting momentarily!

The full, true, transcript is here:

http://uo.stratics.com/php-bin/show_content.php?content=31194

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

Apologies work both ways.

Except that Tazer didn't apologize. It's odd how a moderator is allowed to call a poster here a liar and not get directed by an admin to apologize in the same thread...la

 

[Petra Fyde]

Neither has Sweeney.
Both has called the other a liar, both were mistaken.

The initial mistake was Sweeney's in assuming Tazar was ignoring him rather than wondering if there were some reason that his questions were not getting through.

Let's leave it at that shall we?

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

Neither has Sweeney.
Both has called the other a liar, both were mistaken.

The initial mistake was Sweeney's in assuming Tazar was ignoring him rather than wondering if there were some reason that his questions were not getting through.

Let's leave it at that shall we?

And Sweeney shouldn't. Tazer is the one who came right out and called Sweeney a liar.

just sayin...la

 

[Lorddog]

Re: Stratics HoC Chat, With my Questions Unanswered

I was accused of lying again.. go figure.

its because your a thief - and seige hates thieves!

 

[Shh!]

Neither has Sweeney.
Both has called the other a liar, both were mistaken.

The initial mistake was Sweeney's in assuming Tazar was ignoring him rather than wondering if there were some reason that his questions were not getting through.

Let's leave it at that shall we?

Careful, your bias is showing. Nowhere did Sweeney call Tazar a liar. He merely posted the log and said that Nhbdy was a stool pigeon. Tazar came in here guns a blazin' :gun: questioning Sweeney's truthfulness. When the truth came out, both Tazar and his cheerleader slunk back into the shadows with nothing close to an apology. Just funny how some folk are allowed to operate, that's all.

Now, back to circling the wagons.

 

[Petra Fyde]

ah what it is to see both sides of a question. And to have read both threads on the subject.

 

[Shh!]

ah what it is to see both sides of a question. And to have read both threads on the subject.

As you well know, perception is reality to people. I do not read UHall. I read Siege. This thread has all the facts that I know and in this thread, a certain group of people appear to have egg on their collective faces.

 

[Petra Fyde]

yup, up to, and including Sweeney. Lets forget it hmm? The whole thing was a comedy of errors.

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

yup, up to, and including Sweeney.

Please try again...la

 

[Wulf2k]

This entire thread is devoted to Sweeney sending messages into the void and expecting a response.

Please try again...

 

[Petra Fyde]

I just realised what else Sweeney had done in this thread. As a consequence I've removed his post. The thread now makes no sense but I'm hoping he will understand my actions.

I will explain to him in pm, since this totally throws out the thread I'm locking it.