Stop promoter from spamming!

[Vyal]

I ignore this guy every half an hour and it still spams. Not only does he spam in caps but the site he is spamming doesn't work and half the words he is spamming are spelled wrong. It is even more annoying then the town criers. When I am on and off reading journal and it's flooded with promoter text.

 

[Omnius]

ignore him.

 

[Miri of Sonoma]

You have to ignore him more than once..I have him ignored 3 times so far *frowns*

 

[John Merchant]

Go talk to him. He spams from the inn in new haven.

 

[Vyal]

So far today on Legends I have ignored him over 10 times and he just comes right back. This guy is spamming a site that doesn't even work it says the page can't be found.

 

[Xalan Dementia]

Promoter is actually the fat guy off that south park WoW episode. He sits in his moms basement running his spammers and for some odd reason the UO Admins can't stop him.

All kidding aside, this trojan site spammer has been reported and reported, both in game and here on stratics. Yet theres nothing done about him. Does he have an endless supply of new account codes? Is our only hope to attempt to get all his new account codes banned (in about 3 years of constant reporting)
Is the report/help system broken? Cant some higher up that reads these boards just log into the game for a few minutes and see what we are talking about?


Those who say to put him on ignore obviously dont play the game or have General Chat on. You ignore him and hes on account #2 within 10 minutes. Ignore that one and on to account #3 and so on and so on. If your tired of hearing people complain about the spammer then ignore the complainers. On slow shards its not a huge problem since theres not much talking in general chat so its easier to ignore but when your on a high population shard in primetime and you want to talk to people on general chat then you better just start a new channel cuz your gonna get a screaming interruption about a site every 5-10 minutes.

 

[Theo_GL]

One more reason non paying 'trial' accounts should NOT be able to use general chat.

This is across ALL shards. Everytime it is someone named 'PROMOTER'

 

[Xalan Dementia]

One more reason non paying 'trial' accounts should NOT be able to use general chat.

This is across ALL shards. Everytime it is someone named 'PROMOTER'

and its full accounts since its in general chat, thats whats so odd. They must have a ton of the old new account codes or something so they can make a new account to spam every month or whenever one of them gets banned.

 

[sherkborg]

Theo-> Its not a trial account.


They pay EA to allow them to spam.

 

[virtualhabitat]

I have a motorcycle I'd like to sell. I wonder what sort of response I would get if I advertised in UO...

Moto Guzzi V7 Low miles everything works perfectly, all maintenance records. Nice!

phone# 867-5309

I also have some leftover guns and ammo from Y2K hording I'd like to get rid of. Will trade for game time codes, xfer tokens, and cash!

 

[Pinco]

I have a motorcycle I'd like to sell. I wonder what sort of response I would get if I advertised in UO...

Moto Guzzi V7 Low miles everything works perfectly, all maintenance records. Nice!

phone# 867-5309

I also have some leftover guns and ammo from Y2K hording I'd like to get rid of. Will trade for game time codes, xfer tokens, and cash!

ehhehehe
we will start to see a lot of funny things around that could fall into illegal business like drugs, viagra, etc... for in game gold that will be traded for real money by selling it on web through the illegal shops :O
Then the DEA will shut down UO for supporting drug dealers and we all goes to jail for conspiracy

 

[Warpig Inc]

Could start trading UO gold for fertilizer. Sure at some point Homeland Security would solve out of game trading practices.

 

[Basara]

(Brain Gremlin): "Have you had a run on the Banks there yet? We're advising all our clients to invest in canned goods and shotguns..."

 

[Barok]

(Brain Gremlin): "Have you had a run on the Banks there yet? We're advising all our clients to invest in canned goods and shotguns..."

... and ammo ... guns without ammo are just expensive clubs ...

 

[Lady Storm]

I have to admit I have seen the chat spam all the way down the account list even on the japaneese servers! It is so anoying when your trying to read what is said to you and that garbage is sent. I cant see how they can stop the person or company though. Its too bad they cant do a delay and kick the persons tail for it.

 

[Mirt]

(Brain Gremlin): "Have you had a run on the Banks there yet? We're advising all our clients to invest in canned goods and shotguns..."

Best line EVER! Man do I love that movie. The Rambo montage still makes me laugh.

 

[Arcus]

So far today on Legends I have ignored him over 10 times and he just comes right back. This guy is spamming a site that doesn't even work it says the page can't be found.

You may now have a virus.

 

[Vexxed]

Ok.. wait a sec. Skimmed the thread but w/ a 2 yr old trying to type not sure if I missed anything.

-Is what "Promotor" is doing a bannable offense?
-If it is HOW is this problem still continuing?

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

1- Yepp.
2- Good question. Some are saying he has so many account codes or something, that anytime they ban one account he creates another account. I kinda doubt that seeing as how I only had to put him on ignore twice and have not heard another single peep out of him since. Been almost 2 weeks Promoter free

 

[eve]

I avoid the General chat channel no matter what server I am on.

And, if the person is driving you crazy with spam, for heavens sakes don't go to the website they are spamming. That is rather like asking for a virus of some kind. Whatever they say they are selling cannot be worth the risk. No exceptions. Just don't do it!

 

[Vyal]

The problem is there is one guy that spams the .com site and there is another that spams a .net site.. The .net site flags antivirus software & no page loads up. So just beware, thats the reason I started this thread. EA needs to give that joker the freaking boot. I mean what hes doing a million times a day has been done once by others and they have got 72'd for it.

 

[Vexxed]

Ok.. Well since what's being done is bannable can someone link me to where it says that bc the GM already told me there was "no infraction being committed". So....... as per usual US (the players) need to explain to the GM's the stuff about UO they don't know lol.

 

[Warpig Inc]

Seen also last few days the book dropper is back with a vengeance. Makes runs so much books are piled in the street. Times like this the game needs active random in the trenches policing by someone with the power. Sure there is some Code Mage that has had a bad day. Release the hounds.

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

Seen also last few days the book dropper is back with a vengeance.

Yep I seen Plague several times yesterday on Pacific.

 

[Vyal]

Ok.. Well since what's being done is bannable can someone link me to where it says that bc the GM already told me there was "no infraction being committed". So....... as per usual US (the players) need to explain to the GM's the stuff about UO they don't know lol.

If its legal maybe we should just start spamming random websites in UO that give people trojans. I guess the GM thinks thats cool or something.

 

[Sevin0oo0]

Wonder if it's ok to post a screen shot of the spamming poster, complete w/ ID(s)?

edit: blocking off part of the spammed url?

 

[Pinco]

If its legal maybe we should just start spamming random websites in UO that give people trojans. I guess the GM thinks thats cool or something.

Not long ago many were banned for just saying a link like uoguide, now this guy is spamming like a hell and nothing happen :/

 

[Troop]

phone# 867-5309

OMG! Your Jenny!

 

[virtualhabitat]

OMG! Your Jenny!

I did wonder if anyone would notice that...

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

Ok.. Well since what's being done is bannable can someone link me to where it says that bc the GM already told me there was "no infraction being committed".

ORIGIN - Ultima Online - Main

5) You may not market, promote or advertise anything, or make any other form of solicitation (including pyramid schemes and chain letters) on the Ultima Online Service or through the Ultima Online Web Site.

That about wraps it up.

 

[Sevin0oo0]

Isn't that an old one? circa2008?

it doesn't include anything about 3rd party, cheats,rmt, etc.
If it wasn't, it doesn't leave exception for fan sites or places like uoguide

don't remember where i just saw this, but note exception:

8. With the exception of the sale of in-game items for in-game items or services, you may not market, promote or advertise anything, or make any other form of solicitation (including pyramid schemes and chain letters) through the Ultima Online service or Ultima Online web site.

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

*shurgs*

I don't know honestly. Just searched for Ultima Online Rules of Conduct and saw that was on UOHerald. With the problems the Herald has it could easily be from 2008 tho. I have never ran across that exception tho. Ain't saying it does not exist, just that I have never seen it. I also remember reading an official UO thing that stated specificallt no websties being allowed to be advertised in game.

 

[DevilsOwn]

Ok.. Well since what's being done is bannable can someone link me to where it says that bc the GM already told me there was "no infraction being committed".

ORIGIN - Ultima Online - Main

5) You may not market, promote or advertise anything, or make any other form of solicitation (including pyramid schemes and chain letters) on the Ultima Online Service or through the Ultima Online Web Site.

That about wraps it up.

so, one day (after the 8th time this guy filled my screen with caps) I thought perhaps I'd do the paging thing..... this would fall under harrassment? well, read all about that and I discover that unless I had removed myself (leave general chat in this case) and put him (in all his incarnations) on ignore, I'm pretty much SOL... he's got the upper hand here 'cause I'm restricted as to how and what I can make a complaint about

and yeah, when the rule first came down about advertising a web site url ingame a good friend got that ban for speaking the name of the guild address...... you know, in their own guild house, at their meeting, to let folks know where to go to keep up on guild activities and get help with game mechanics and such... yah, a ban, and this guy just keeps chuggin' along

 

[Sevin0oo0]

Kylie, I think mine's old also (ROC), sorry. I know the date on that page is there only by script.

If promoter is non-rmt, non-commercial, non 3rd party, non cheats, (all that) and doesn't use copyrighted stuff,could it not be listed here, in someone's sig?

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

If promoter is non-rmt, non-commercial, non 3rd party, non cheats, (all that) and doesn't use copyrighted stuff,could it not be listed here, in someone's sig?

Hmmm, good question. Would be better answered "officially" by someone at a higher pay scale than I.. errr ummm wait we don't get paid lol. I would tend to think so, as I have seen a couple of those around. But, I am not sure if there are official channels to go thru and get an OK from the higher ups.

I was putting no stock in the date on the page tho, I kinda figued it was an automatic deal too. I have been looking for the link someone posted a while back that had the official entire TOS in it that was like 5 pages long, but have been unable to locate it yet. If I happen to run across it before I give up or get bored I will throw it out here tho.

 

[Sevin0oo0]

is this current?
simply put:
- Promote, encourage or take part in any activity involving <snip>/or distribution of <snip> virtual currency/items.

there's so much crap out there, it's hard to tell. + i get confused easily - i better go kill mongbats or something.

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

is this current?
simply put:
- Promote, encourage or take part in any activity involving <snip>/or distribution of <snip> virtual currency/items.

there's so much crap out there, it's hard to tell. + i get confused easily - i better go kill mongbats or something.

In all honesty.... damifikno

Already bored tho. Time to fill up a few more runbooks with decay places.

 

[pgib]

I wonder... would it be so hard for them to write in the herald "hey guys, we are aware of the problem" or "we know there's an issue, we're on it". Nothing more, just that.

Because the spam goes on, they don't say a word = it looks like they don't care.

And the same goes for any annoying issue of this game.

I know they do care and obviously things are not so easy to fix as we may imagine but if noone says a word about it you can't help but feel that the game goes on just because someone forgot to shutdown the servers.

Say something Mythic, we need to know you're still alive.

 

[goldenpower]

it takes about 5 seconds to put him on ignore after he makes a new name. yes, GMs should do something about it but the best thing to do is just ignore him and don't let it bother you so much.

if you really want to spend an extra few seconds being bothered by it you can also report him to a GM. do verbal harassment say he is advertising and spamming and type in his chat ID.

 

[Vyal]

The guy is spamming a website that has nothing on it but when you go to it virus scans flag it.
How is this not against the UO rules?!
& thats just one of the two promoters out there the others ones site works but between the two of them its constant spam in CAPS & the one guy says...
Go to this NON-COMMERIAL site... Is that how they are getting around the rules by mispelling commercial?

 

[Tina Small]

I have been looking for the link someone posted a while back that had the official entire TOS in it that was like 5 pages long, but have been unable to locate it yet. If I happen to run across it before I give up or get bored I will throw it out here tho.

There's a link to the Terms of Service at the bottom of the Account Management page.

 

[Xalan Dementia]

it takes about 5 seconds to put him on ignore after he makes a new name. yes, GMs should do something about it but the best thing to do is just ignore him and don't let it bother you so much.

if you really want to spend an extra few seconds being bothered by it you can also report him to a GM. do verbal harassment say he is advertising and spamming and type in his chat ID.

haveta wait till publish hits for us to use his chat id when reporting. the system as it stands is broke and could be the reason they cant pinpoint the guy. Of course as was said they could have a GM spend 10 minutes actually IN GAME and catch him when he hits Gen chat.

 

[goldenpower]

The guy is spamming a website that has nothing on it but when you go to it virus scans flag it.
How is this not against the UO rules?!
& thats just one of the two promoters out there the others ones site works but between the two of them its constant spam in CAPS & the one guy says...
Go to this NON-COMMERIAL site... Is that how they are getting around the rules by mispelling commercial?

they don't have to "get around the rules" if EA wants to terminate an account they can do it without giving a reason.

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

haveta wait till publish hits for us to use his chat id when reporting. the system as it stands is broke and could be the reason they cant pinpoint the guy. Of course as was said they could have a GM spend 10 minutes actually IN GAME and catch him when he hits Gen chat.

Nah, I put him on ignore twice and have not hear a peep out of him for a couple of weeks now.

 

[Sevin0oo0]

bc the GM already told me there was "no infraction being committed".

any chance for a screenie of that?

 

[Lady Michelle]

being new accounts the first 30 free days should be where the only chat channel being used is the help channel. Once the 30 days is up, and the accounts paid for monthly then they get access to all the channels. that is probley the only way to stop him.

 

[Xalan Dementia]

Nah, I put him on ignore twice and have not hear a peep out of him for a couple of weeks now.

i meant the paging system, ive never had it accept any chat id ive ever entered. supposedly fixed with publish so hopefully we can report him with chat id and have something done.

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

Ohhhh that. Got ya, apologies

 

[Sir_Bolo]

I don't know honestly. Just searched for Ultima Online Rules of Conduct and saw that was on UOHerald. With the problems the Herald has it could easily be from 2008 tho.

That page is outdated. The current UO ROC is found on EA Help:

https://help.ea.com/article/ultima-online-service-rules-of-conduct

This is the current rule against advertising:

8. With the exception of the sale of in-game items for in-game items or services, you may not market, promote or advertise anything, or make any other form of solicitation (including pyramid schemes and chain letters) through the Ultima Online service or Ultima Online web site.

So it seems that advertising in-game vendors is, indeed, legal... Annoying, looks like we'll have to put the guy on the ignore list.

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

8. With the exception of the sale of in-game items for in-game items or services, you may not market, promote or advertise anything, or make any other form of solicitation (including pyramid schemes and chain letters) through the Ultima Online service or Ultima Online web site.

So it seems that advertising in-game vendors is, indeed, legal... Annoying, looks like we'll have to put the guy on the ignore list.

Ok, thanks. That to me reads differently than you seem to read it. Promoter is not marketing, or promoting and in game item. He is marketing and promiting a website. Which is obvoiusly not in game. While it may have in game items on it, I think it is FAR removed from what the exception listed as being above. What the exception above is speaking too is marketing, spamming about an item you have in game. Either in chat, wile bank sitting etc.

Just because a website has IN game items on it, does not make it an in game item. Therefore, not subject to the only exception on the topic and therefore BANNABLE. IF there was a GM who showed up and said this promoter was not doing anything wrong then the GM was 100% dead wrong and needs to go get retrained on the TOS he is supposed to enforce.