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Step-by-Step Goza Stair Building-WARNING picture intensive

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majorwoo

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Yup, that was my problem - I was using goza mats but hadn't made myslf high enough (you need to be outside the area where the roof is or you can't go high enough)
 
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Frosgat

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Hello Everyone, Great tutorial... I just finished the stairs in my Keep. I must say the hardest part was getting the "goza inside the wall" to jump to the next level. Once I figured that out, it was no problem.

Here's some pics. My goal was to have as little of the stairs showing as possible. I also was able to position everything so that no doors are blocked.

The West Side before adding flooring:



The West Side after adding flooring:



The East Side before adding flooring:



The East Side after adding flooring:



Cheers and thanks Crackhead Bob, et. al. for a great tutorial!!!!
 

Larisa

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Very nice!!! I really like it!

They are so versatile and you can do so much with them I love it! Glad everyone is enjoying this!

And again, the majority of the reward goes to Crackhead for figuring it out!
I just posted pics.....lol.
 
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BajaNative

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I am utilizing just as you say to, and getting "contruction aborted. Gaza mat.. table.. 2 messy book piles.. double click gaza in pack... click to pile of books....

Contruction aborted.

As well as if/when I get this figured out. IS there a suggestion on how to over come the West and North Walls? Not within a door way??

Also, raising 9 times, only allows me to place table on top, attempting to put books on top the table only trows them back into my back pack.

Thanks so much
 
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Ok lets see.

2 damaged book piles, target the top center one with a square goza. Make sure you aren't using regular gozas as they are rectangular and won't work.

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As well as if/when I get this figured out. IS there a suggestion on how to over come the West and North Walls? Not within a door way??

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It's a bit tricky. But it's tied into your other question:

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Also, raising 9 times, only allows me to place table on top, attempting to put books on top the table only trows them back into my back pack.

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You can only place objects so high, compared to where you are standing. So if you put down three tables and then a couple book stacks on top of that, you can't place anything else because it is too far away from you. To get around this, you can create a little mini elevator. Place 2 goza mats next to the tile you are working on. Raise one goza up by 2 and the other one up by 4. Then stand on the one that is raised up by 4 and raise the level 2 goza up four times. You can do this indefinitely, making a mini elevator. Eventually you can use book piles to make it go higher if needed.

So, say you need a goza that sits on the north wall of the center part of a keep. You would place a goza mat on the tile of the floor below that one and raise it up as far as possible, then do a mini elevator up a few times and place a table on the goza. It should pop on top of the half walls that sit on the top. You might have to lower the goza mat once or twice to get it so the table can do this, I can't remember whether or not that is necessary.

If you're still having trouble placing gozas on top of damaged book piles, I'll meet up with you ingame and see if I can help with that.
 
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BajaNative

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well basically my dear, the "only so far above me" I figured out before I checked back here.

I sickenly got the nack of this now, aside from the transversing the north and western walls. Just having way to much fun.. *not*

Thank you very much.

As much time as I am spending doing this... (please take as the joke it's meant to be) not sure if the thank you is sincere or sarcastic... *smiles*

But I really do thank you, you did a wonderful job here with tutorial, as well as helping folks and offering to come in person. Thank you so much for bringing good things and honor to UO. Nice to still see it around
 
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Minsk

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How many "floors" have you built? Do you have any screenshots of higher levels?
 

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I tested it on one of my towers and was able to get up 14 floors...no screenies though but I can do it again...it's alot easier with the new ladders as I don't have to build a complete goza walkway to get up now..I just use the ladder
 

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Now that we have ladders..the goza stairs have become obsolete...BUT don't fret! There are MANY more uses for Goza's then first meet the eye....the stairs was just the beginning!

Just one of many examples of how goza's can help aid in your decorating endevours....with the help of ladders...I was able to build this fantabulous Christmas tree!



This is how it looked during the building phase...



And if that doesn't convince you....I was able to make my reindeer fly with the help of these wonderful goza's...



So don't give up on those goza's! Stairs were just the beginning! Think outside the box and let your creative juices flow! LONG LIVE THE GOZA!
 
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Chaos of Origin

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Hi, I recently picked up a castle. I went on a crusade to get the best ideas to jump start my brain on some ideas for mine. I came across the threads here and another location regarding the floating garden on Sonoma. And since I had no idea about creating deco from scratch instead of just buying / crafting it, I was impressed with what you could do with goza mats. I have some beautiful ideas to put into motion, but when I discoverd the Sonoma castle, I was entranced. I was only slightly chagrined to later learn I was duped into believing that the castle's "4th" level was totally real. But even the illusion is worth doing, and if I am going to do it (I am), I want to do it right, but I am having the same problems that others had, and while I have been able to assimilate the information and move forward, the north and west wall dillema is baffling me. I didn't find the continued explanation hinted at in the end of this particular post from Larisa. I also cannot figure out how to raise the gozas inside the north and west walls of the towers since raising them never gets them out of the "wall" so you can't put anything on them to crank up the height. I also question the instructions I thought I had figured out since the process on the tower and bastille roofs raise it high enough to walk under, but not to get on and off of (i.e. going from the 2nd floor walkway to the roof of the towers or bastille). I could take the instructions to the next step and raise the "ceiling " a couple more spaces to accomodate getting on and off the roof using the castle ladders, or just making ladders extend from the walkways to the "ceiling" by making goza landings. But I realize that this thread is ancient, and might not even be monitored anymore. I would love to learn more about this, but I haven't had any luck being able to locate more threads concerning it, and with the crash of stratics a while back, a lot of threads and photos were irretrievibly lost. I hope that I can get the questions answered or at least given a direction to look into. I appreeciate your time. Thanks
 

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Hi, I don't think I've ever done this with a castle but I've done it with a keep where I had to get a goza up above a turret in a tricky spot (the north side of a wall).

What I did was to raise the goza from the floor up as far as possible (15 turns), then make a goza mat elevator to raise myself up all the way. The goza elevator is two goza mats next to the square you are working on, you raise one of them two times and stand on it, then raise the second goza mat 4 times and stand on it, then raise the first one 4 times, etc, till you are as high as you can be.

Once you are standing up next to your raised goza mat in the wall try to place a small wooden table on it (the little brown kind you can place things on top of) and it should "pop" on top of the castle turret above. Now you can place your damaged book piles on it and your goza mat and raise or lower it or whatever.
 
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Shantia

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Sorry to resurrect a slightly old thread but i really want to do this for my keep. I saw a functional goza walk way between the keeps towers at a vendor house recently and i'm entranced. I am thrilled to find out how to do it here on the boards, now i dont have the stalk the owner of the house LOL. The only problem is i dont have any large damaged books nor can find any for sale in the popular vendor spots in baja. Is there any other item that can be used for this trick? Or any baja players willing to sell me enough books to do this?
 

Sarsmi

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Sorry to resurrect a slightly old thread but i really want to do this for my keep. I saw a functional goza walk way between the keeps towers at a vendor house recently and i'm entranced. I am thrilled to find out how to do it here on the boards, now i dont have the stalk the owner of the house LOL. The only problem is i dont have any large damaged books nor can find any for sale in the popular vendor spots in baja. Is there any other item that can be used for this trick? Or any baja players willing to sell me enough books to do this?
That may have been my vendor house, I have spare large damaged book piles so I can set aside a couple for you. PM me if you want to meet up and do that! =)
 
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rockkandy

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help!!! I just found out about all of this crazyness!! LOL and I've been trying my hand at it. I have the east side of my keep done and am trying to link the center roof to the western towers now. And I can't seem to be able to get ONE tile to work. This is the tile just north west of the main stair case (inside the wall) I can't seem to set anything on it. And it doesn't have an equivalent tile on the roof. Any help with this would be wonderful
 

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There are tough spots on the corners where you have to get tricky for things to work. If you think you are on one of those corners, go down to the floor below (the keep second floor) where the corner is next to the tower, then place a square goza in that corner. Raise it up all the way it can go, stand on a ladder next to it (or if you don't have a ladder then make a goza elevator or a small goza stair case) so you can stand higher, then use circle trans to see the corner goza and drop a small table on it. If you are standing high enough to reach the goza to do this but not too high (you can't do it from the roof) then it will pop the table on top of the short wall on the roof. Now you can drop two damaged book piles on the table and place a goza and go on from there. :)
 
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