Uhm, yea....how many critters cast oath again?
Anything that uses necromancy, namely dark fathers, lady mel, skeletal dragons, almost anything in an undead champ spawn, Neira herself, maddening horrors... To name a few. There are doubtless many others I can't think of off the top of my head.
Also I gave my opinion not stating a fact, you said to try it and it is fun, I came back that those who post have tried it, most likely they all use it, does not make it fun and does not change their opinion on the situation.
To each his own, I would say. I thing that we are all fully aware that when someone says something is fun, they mean that in their experience, it is enjoyable, and they should not be made to place a qualifying "It is my opinon that..." before everything they say. I express the opinion that a sampire is fun, and you offer a differing one that it is not.
Also I never claimed playing a tamer in pvm was fun.....
I know, I never said you did. I was merely pointing out that tamers can solo things too, hence if things shouldn't be solo'd, they would be on the chopping block too.
I would prefer to have to run away from time to time vs falling asleep just watching my stamina (ya know, case it actually falls below max swing speed...but generally any hit landed will result in full stamina again).
If you are falling asleep with your sampire, you aren't challenging yourself enough. Go find a para greater dragon and try it, or run into the center of the 4th level of a cold blood spawn, and aggro a mess of dragons and ophidians, or go try to take a mess of lesser hiryus and revenant lions in the Tokuno spawn.
I tend to either use a mage or a melee character that generally requires another player with you to accomplish much, but again I believe in the beginning part of the genre of game we are playing, "MM" Massively Multiplayer.
The best thing about it is that the sampire does not have to be played alone, and is complimentary in a group. It keeps the casters out of melee range, where he belongs, and pretty much keeps the boss's attention while everyone else gets to wail away at it. The simple fact that the sampire can do it without help is not the issue in a group setting.
It's basically a fighter without bandaids. All the rest is Bushido and Chivalry which are on many templates. The stamina leech and mana leech is on the weapon, and should be on any PVM fighter template's weapon. A fast swing is pretty helpful for any dexer's template, which is why they call them dexers. If the problem for people's perception is the life leech, you can put some of that on any weapon too, its just not quite as effective.
....doesn't matter what return you have, since I do not care about others experiences when I give my own opinion...
I really don't know what to say about that... I always take into consideration everyone else's opion when I offer a differing one.
This part is not directed at you, cloak.
I do think that many who play the game want to make their characters as capable as they can be, and there are certain combinations of skills that make for more survivability than others, and I think that this is as it should be. There is not much of a chance that a char that has all GM skills in herding, begging, item ID, taste ID, camping, forensics, and tracking should be as good at killing monsters as one of the mage templates, or fighter templates, or others. There are certain combinations that make for a good class. It's a sandbox game in order to ensure that the players can select these skills for themselves, and they will usually fall into certain existing templates. Whether that be a pure mage, Paladin, mystic dexer, tamer, sampire, or what have you, some are going to be good combinations, and some will be more effective at certain things than others. So as to whether a sampire being able to solo bosses while a mage/tamer/whatever would have a harder time at it, its part of the game. To my knowledge, a sampire can't solo Mel, blackrock golems, Corgul, Scalis, Slasher of Veils and others. Other templates can. Sampires also don't do well on boats...
Why should people rage that sampires are too good, too common, too whatever? People will use what works for what they want to achieve.
