So Luna houses are more valuable to EA than other houses.

[Symma]

This is exactly why I felt the system in Star Wars Galaxies worked.

Regardless of how they make you go there, by rune or something, getting the person to visit the vendor to pick up the item encourages them to browse the other items.

This doesn't de value a Luna spot much, as its still easier to get to them to pick up the item, but it gives other players a chance to compete who haven't put it loads of real $$$$ or tons of gold to get a good house.

I remember looking for items in SWG, a rifle for example, and ended up looking through the shops other items, sometimes making more purchases.

And to think that people would match their prices to luna, and thus make no difference, is a bit silly. People will compete, will lower their prices and make some competition. It won't stop the regulars visiting Luna and buying from there but it gives newer players and casual players more a chance to sell.

I'm totally against the item being sent to you or available for pickup at points in major towns. Just lazy.

I say this, and I can't understand why posters complain about travelling, because most vendors will be in Trammel as this will benefit prodo shards more. I have risk here on Siege, most players on other shards don't, so its easier for you to take longer journies.

Anyway, this system was merely a suggestion as I felt it worked in SWG and could work here.

 

[Symma]

But noone is going to travel half way across sosaria for cheap bandages.

I really can't understand how people can be so lazy in this game. I would travel to the depths of the Abyss Dungeon just to get a bargain off a vendor, and I have to risk getting out alive from the PKs on my shard.

 

[Lord Chaos]

I really can't understand how people can be so lazy in this game.

This has nothing to do with laziness and have everything to do with that we have better things to do and don't want to waste our time on meaningless things.

Btw, since you're on siege, things are entirely different there and the vendor search system wouldn't be able to recall/SJ you anywhere, you'd have to walk on there.

 

[Lord Chaos]

I'm totally against the item being sent to you or available for pickup at points in major towns. Just lazy.

Noone wants that. We just want an enhanced version of what we already have. Instead of having to keep a library of vendor runes to find anything, you can recall to the vendor. This keeps it fair for everyone and allows NEW players to try out vendoring, instead of it only being old timers.

In fact, new players > Luna vendor players.

If you want to walk on siege, go ahead...but we don't want to waste our time.

 

[Connor_Graham]

Everyone should have a chance to run vendor malls, not just a select few that just happens to have a prime spot.

Everybody does. Some locations just require less effort than others. I ran a very successful vendor mall for several years out in the boondocks of Malas. It took more effort, but it worked out just fine.

 

[Symma]

Noone wants that. We just want an enhanced version of what we already have. Instead of having to keep a library of vendor runes to find anything, you can recall to the vendor. This keeps it fair for everyone and allows NEW players to try out vendoring, instead of it only being old timers.

In fact, new players > Luna vendor players.

If you want to walk on siege, go ahead...but we don't want to waste our time.

I never once said you would be forced to walk, you're just adding words to what i said to suit you. I was saying that it'd be up to you to find the best way to get there.

I just don't want to see a system that generates a load of permanent runes each time. Obivously if they can generate a button in the Bazaar system then thats not to bad i guess.

If we sit down and think a simple solution could be met, when a rune is requested it could come with a time limit like quest items in Underworld (for example).

 

[Lord Chaos]

Everybody does. Some locations just require less effort than others. I ran a very successful vendor mall for several years out in the boondocks of Malas. It took more effort, but it worked out just fine.

It takes a heck of a lot more effort...more than what most new players can put in this game or even know how to.

Its stupid to even talk about yesteryear, concentrate on the future and making the game better, not stay stuck in old systems that are only there because of limitations in 1997.

 

[Lord Chaos]

I never once said you would be forced to walk, you're just adding words to what i said to suit you. I was saying that it'd be up to you to find the best way to get there.

I was using walking figuratively speaking, to cover travelling to the place as opposed to recalling.

I just don't want to see a system that generates a load of permanent runes each time. Obivously if they can generate a button in the Bazaar system then thats not to bad i guess.

Oh yes, I agree...no permanent runes. When you click on a vendor, it gives you a minimap (like a treasure map) of its location and buttons to recall, sacred journey or gate under the house sign of the house that has the vendor.

This would of course not be like that on Siege, as the recall/sj/gate button would be disabled.

Also vendors in no-recall zones cannot be recalled to, but then you'd have the map.

The good thing about allowing the recall off the vendor search system (which should be a board in town...is that people have to go there for searches and it will create traffic and community around them.

 

[Tomas_Bryce]

Slave Girl: I am sorry but you have no idea what you are talking about. At no point was Luna mentioned. Let me enlighten you and remove your ignorance: Ultima Online is a sandbox game. You can create your own Luna anywhere in the world. It requires hard work and ingenuity, but it is possible.

Case in point: Few years ago, me and my friends had created one of the most popular malls on Atlantic - one of the most competitive shards. Where was this mall, you ask? It was on a random island in Trammel. For more than 2 years while we ran this mall, it was as popular as Luna. Not only that, when one of my partners decided to retire and sold his 18x18 it went for a whopping 400 Million Gold (originally, purchased for 55M gold). Two years down the road even after the original mall had shut down, the same house went for 350M gold. Small towers in our mall area have fetched upto 100M gold.

What does this mean? It means that we put in the hard work to create something out of nothing. Our ingenuity raised the real estate of that island exponentially. Once again, Ultima Online is a SAND BOX GAME. It gives you the tools and freedom to create your own Luna. Agreed that it is not an easy task, but it is possible. All of this would be destroyed if they came out with a WoW type of Auction market. In one stroke, you would take away one of the biggest sand box features of the game.

That is exactly what the developer in question was referring to when he made that comment. Luna might need to be nerfed, but not the ability to influence the world as players.

 

[Lord Chaos]

The poster didn't say we should have a WoW style auction house.

 

[HD2300]

Yes to SWG style vendor search.

People will still always browse and impulse buy in Luna and vendor malls, but getting more people involved and selling things in game is a very beneficial thing not a bad thing.

 

[NewThunder]

Wow, I must have watched a different town hall. They were in favor of a vendor search; What they want to do is keep the need to have a home, the intrisic value of home ownership, not the UO Gold Value. This means that location will still influence UO Gold price.

 

[Siteswap]

Wow, I must have watched a different town hall. They were in favor of a vendor search; What they want to do is keep the need to have a home, the intrisic value of home ownership, not the UO Gold Value. This means that location will still influence UO Gold price.

Correct.

The OP has totally gotten the wrong end of the stick and misconstrued everything that was said by the devs on this subject.

 

[kaio]

What is wrong with you people ?
Always searching for the easy way out.

Why don't we just send an e-mail to the GM's with our shopping lists, so they can buy the stuff we need, while we're at work, and withdraw the gold from our account. And store the bought items in our mail boxes.

My oppinion on this matter is very clear.
- Ban those scripters that run those sites i won't name here.
- No ingame searchengine, none what so ever.
- Bring back the challange of finding a good bargain.

 

[Brytt]

I'd like them to follow the system used earlier on in Star Wars Galaxies. You'd be able to search the Bazaar and find an item sold by a player. You were then given a waypoint to the house. You still had to travel there to pick up the item.

This. FTW.

 

[AesSedai]

- If they are going to legally turn up the 'easy' dial on player vending,
then I do hope they make us travel to the destination rather than recall us there or pop our purchases into our backpacks. Ya' never know what kind of adventure you might run into along the way.

 

[Green Mouser]

I think they just have wildly misinterpreted what people were asking for.

We ask: Can we have a legal vendor search database, kinda like the ones that use scripted bots to gather data that we can't talk about in-game or on Stratics, except this one could be game-wide, and legal?

They heard: Can we have a vendor system that mirrors those in other games, where you'd no longer have to physically travel to the house to buy the item?

Now, there may be some here who think the latter is a good idea. But the team shouldn't have confused the two issues. They are related but separate.

Hopefully this'll be like the "grave markers." Remember that? How they fouled up royally about interpreting what we wanted, but once they realized what we were really asking for (basically a way to engrave gravestones), we got it right quick?

Hopefully this issue will be like that; that the real source of not getting it is a misunderstanding of the request.

A home in Luna or around Zento would retain much of its value with such a system, because you'd still have to travel to the house and homes around Zento or Luna would be the easiest to get to.

-Galen's player

TY Sir,

I was beginning to think I went to a different event.

 

[Green Mouser]

- If they are going to legally turn up the 'easy' dial on player vending,
then I do hope they make us travel to the destination rather than recall us there or pop our purchases into our backpacks. Ya' never know what kind of adventure you might run into along the way.

That seemed to be Cal's Point. He wanted the players to still have some sort of experience.

 

[Zodia]

Maybe we could solve this with the next "booster" pack, due by July, 2011.

UO:Bazaar

 

[Viper09]

Seeing as how Luna vendor houses sell for thousands of dollars cash money.

Now I know the OP here completely misinterpreted what was said, but thousands of dollars cash for a luna vendor house?? Now I don't go around and check what sells for RLC but somehow I find this a bit ridiculous.

 

[UOKaiser]

Now I know the OP here completely misinterpreted what was said, but thousands of dollars cash for a luna vendor house?? Now I don't go around and check what sells for RLC but somehow I find this a bit ridiculous.

Yea that was the earlie days of luna. They go for like $150-$300 that equals to around 350mil=700mil gold. 18x18 demand the most. Not up in realestate lately but that was around last count I saw. But they usually only accept cash.

 

[Lord Chaos]

- If they are going to legally turn up the 'easy' dial on player vending,
then I do hope they make us travel to the destination rather than recall us there or pop our purchases into our backpacks. Ya' never know what kind of adventure you might run into along the way.

That seemed to be Cal's Point. He wanted the players to still have some sort of experience.

How is running all over the place an experience? If I want to explore, I'll explore on my own time, not be forced to do it.

Makes me definitely recent the game when being forced to do things.

 

[Lady Michelle]

I think its depends on what a person wants in the game. Houses are worthless to me if they are not in trammel or felucca. that is only because you cant place keeps or castles in the other faucets.

 

[Lord Chaos]

I don't see why anyone would want keeps or castles...those things are so ugly its not even funny. Wouldn't want a castle even for free (other than to demolish it and place custom plots)

 

[Viper09]

I don't see why anyone would want keeps or castles...those things are so ugly its not even funny. Wouldn't want a castle even for free (other than to demolish it and place custom plots)

Differs for different people.

 

[Taylor]

Now I know the OP here completely misinterpreted what was said, but thousands of dollars cash for a luna vendor house?? Now I don't go around and check what sells for RLC but somehow I find this a bit ridiculous.

Yea that was the earlie days of luna. They go for like $150-$300 that equals to around 350mil=700mil gold. 18x18 demand the most. Not up in realestate lately but that was around last count I saw. But they usually only accept cash.

Yeah, that's about right. The last I saw selling on Atlantic--where they are most expensive--was 700 mil. Certainly not thousands of dollars.