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What good is the "candy" unless you are resubbing? Honest question. Why would anyone want this stuff unless they might consider actually playing again if they enjoy it enough? I honestly am indifferent towards the RTB program. To me if the team working on UO wants to get people back into the game they have to do it though creating buzz. Making chatter on gaming sites about something exciting happening in the game etc... But I digress this is completely OT.
No matter how bitchy the OP might have sounded to you (not saying he sounded that way to me), to me he's got a point. I realize there's quite a few people who are all "Yay I can open my 4065277665 accounts and get a whole big ole pile of gifts" but I checked and you don't get turn in points for them. They're so common they don't have great value. So it's not like someones going to open an account make a hundred bucks off of anny gifts then close their accounts. At least I don't see it.
So to me I say "who cares" if RTB gets gifts.. I sure don't. Let 'em! Let them fill up their lil bank boxes to the brim with sacks that say 15th anniversary on them. Harpsichords out the ying yang. If we even get a handfull of people to say "hey this stuff is cool maybe I'll play for a while again" it's worth it.
I agree with you

I dont see why it'd be a problem for RTB accounts to recieve gifts.

And the original post didnt seem a whine to me, he is just saying he doesn't like the "new way of doing this"
 

Petra Fyde

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I don't think, actually, that there was a deliberate decision not to allow these gifts, I think it's a side effect of classing them as 'trial accounts', which I am guessing was the simplest, least labour intensive, and surest way of solving the problem of house placing.

If anyone really wants these items I will happily gift them on any shard I have a character on.
 

Ron Silverbeard

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Most of my time i spend on stratics i now read complains about the Dev's and Mythic and EA and how pissed most of the people are now or since years..
Why do you still play their games if all you have is complains about how this and that sucks, or all sucks?
And btw, there is a huge difference HOW you criticise anything or anyone and beeing treated back..if you know what i mean ;)
 

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I am a paying player. I do not have an issue with them stopping RtB accounts from placing houses, receiving gifts, etc. To me, these issues are tied into each other and, I am GLAD that something has been done.
Sums up how I feel pretty much.


Most of my time i spend on stratics i now read complains about the Dev's and Mythic and EA and how pissed most of the people are now or since years..
Why do you still play their games if all you have is complains about how this and that sucks, or all sucks?
And this.
 
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Ron Silverbeard

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Pls dont come up with "be glad i still pay all of my gazillion accounts or this game would be dead yet, and i have the right to use crtics to EVERYTHING i want because i am a paying customer" cause this is so 90's and is no real contra-argument
*Bam*
 

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surely there is a section on stratics about it for 14 years they sharded gifts to celebrate RTB, this year ,no notification of the change, this does not seem strange to you at all?

thats the problem Petra, another negative change
AND, also this "free" month, is a great opportunity to log n chars on other shards, contact friends on icq and swap the gifts with them, wonderful experience to share with others, spend time with others, have them show you around chat and have a great time, then show them your home shard, i spent most of the RTB time on other shards meeting new people, wonderful, then when all gifts are swapped for home, help others with collections, the Europa museum id stuffed full because of this

THIS IS WHY ITS A PROBLEM. stopping this is a very bad idea, the first time it has happened

understand now?
Why do you care so much for a community (swapping gifts) if you do not play the game? Besides, you dont think us paying folks swap gifts too? Just RTB can do it? The house fixing was the most important part of this and I agree its about time it was fixed.
 

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So i like many have been away from UO for a while, 15 years is a long time and sometimes you just need a break.
I took advantage of the RtB to pop back in and yes, to collect my 15 anniversary gifts.
The gift's may even have 'seduced' me to return once more again...
I was hoping it was an oversight that only paying accounts got them but i now see that isnt the case any longer.
This is the 1st time in 15 years this has happened and i was so angry and dissapointed.

Anyway, long story short.. I deleted my account, i wont be associated with the 'new' way of doing things.
To many friends over a 15 year UO history that may still be around lurking on these boards that remember the glory days of Europa and the Britannia Guard and the Duchy of Trinsic i say....
...So long and thanks for all the fish.

Hey I remember you...
Give it some thought.. maybe you'll reconsider.. there's still some of us around from the old days.
 
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Joey Porter

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I don't think, actually, that there was a deliberate decision not to allow these gifts, I think it's a side effect of classing them as 'trial accounts', which I am guessing was the simplest, least labour intensive, and surest way of solving the problem of house placing.

If anyone really wants these items I will happily gift them on any shard I have a character on.
If the gifts are the make or break point for anyone decided to re-subscribe or not then I have 4 sets of gifts I will gladly give to you on Atlantic.
 

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As the number of posters that are paid by EA posting regularly on these forums becomes a larger and larger majority you get more and more OTT flaming of anyone that ciriticises EA. :(
 
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Lady Silverbrook

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Gifts should not make or break someones enjoyment to the point they are all right with leaving or not returning. I would think that there are deeper reasons than that... or I would hope.

Nonetheless, to the OP, good luck on whatever your future holds, game wise. There are a lot of fun, exciting games out at the moment (many which are free!) which I have no doubt will hold your interest.
 

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As the number of posters that are paid by EA posting regularly on these forums becomes a larger and larger majority you get more and more OTT flaming of anyone that ciriticises EA. :(
Knock it off with that BS HD. Believe it or not there are actually people who like UO and will disagree with you on many issues, difference in opinion is part of human nature. Flinging wild accusations like that only show your incapability to debate your position.

But yes, good luck to the OP and thanks for the clarification. Everyone will someday move on from UO, hope your next stop will be just as good as UO was when you first started.
 
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LordDrago

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As the number of posters that are paid by EA posting regularly on these forums becomes a larger and larger majority you get more and more OTT flaming of anyone that ciriticises EA. :(
yeah, that's probably it. :lame:
 
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As the number of posters that are paid by EA posting regularly on these forums becomes a larger and larger majority you get more and more OTT flaming of anyone that ciriticises EA. :(

EA cares nothing about your criticisms. The only people that are affected by the negativity on this board are the people who actually work on this game that do care about it and who I truly believe work hard at trying to make the players happy.

If you want to get at EA, your only option is to let your money do the talking and leave the game. If you want to give input to improve the game, then I suggest being polite, because you are not speaking to the enemy.
 

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Wait a minute... can I really get PAID for saying I like to play UO?

Somebody send me a link, I been doing it for free all these years.. sheesh.
You do that... I will sell foil hats. We will both win.
 

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As the number of posters that are paid by EA posting regularly on these forums becomes a larger and larger majority you get more and more OTT flaming of anyone that ciriticises EA. :(
That was the funniest thing I've seen on this board in a while..

Seeing as how a lot of people here have several accounts they pay EA to have..
And a lot of us even help support this fansite..
 
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I don't think, actually, that there was a deliberate decision not to allow these gifts, I think it's a side effect of classing them as 'trial accounts', which I am guessing was the simplest, least labour intensive, and surest way of solving the problem of house placing.

If anyone really wants these items I will happily gift them on any shard I have a character on.
Sometimes the "easy way" isn't always the best way.
I understand how it came to be, it just should have had more thought put into it.
Heck, if it were me there would have been something special in the bags of the people taking advantage of the RTB. (Lordy what chaos that would've caused. You want to see crybabies let's give out something special to the RTB people.) Perhaps two different bags for active accounts vs RTB accounts. Something cool. But that's just me.

You can't blame a guy for feeling disappointed though. He hears everyone in game talking about gifts he didn't get.

There had to have been a way in the code to make RTB houses decay after 30 days if not renewed, or something similar instead of limiting gameplay.

I mean I do get the other side, people don't want someone to get something for free that they are paying for. But it's not like they are going to be able to keep it unless they do play, so really the point is kinda moot.
 

Viper09

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Wait a minute... can I really get PAID for saying I like to play UO?

Somebody send me a link, I been doing it for free all these years.. sheesh.
I wonder if we can get back-pay too...
 

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He could have played a month for free on a familiar and hopefully well equipped character. He chose to 'delete his account' instead. Perhaps we have all learned a lesson here. Next time you give some one a cookie... give them a glass of milk too.
 

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You could take it a step further and ask why we all didn't get a free month?
Regardless, I think you guys are over-reacting to someone posting some disappointment.
People are allowed to be disappointed in things, even if you don't think they should be.
They should also be allowed to express that disappointment without being picked apart for it.
 

Ludes

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Actually I apologize to the OP... I kinda got sidetracked on HD2300's post.
 

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you get to log in for free if you are not paying... Win.
 

LordDrago

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You could take it a step further and ask why we all didn't get a free month?
Because a 10% UO revenue reduction might be just enough for EA to pull the plug?

I don't think anyone is upset with someone posting disappointment, but with the perceived attitude presented in the OP. Just the other day, my Burger King ran out of the Large frypods with the game tickets...disappointed as I was, I did not throw my meal out.


mmmmmm....fries.
 

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you get to log in for free if you are not paying... Win.
Pay for your month of play...get a free gift pack
Don't pay for your month of play...get a free month of play.

TBH, given the choice, how many people would have taken the free month of play?
 

Ron Silverbeard

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Pay for your month of play...get a free gift pack
Don't pay for your month of play...get a free month of play.

TBH, given the choice, how many people would have taken the free month of play?
It is even better Drago, you reopen an account and get to discover your old chars on all shards you might have created and developed back in the days...
Than you figure out, hey, its a free month of gametime, i allready heard you get gifts if you at least subscribe for one month for a few bucks.
= 2 Month Gametime for 1 month subscrition + Gifts on all my old chars, house placement possibilities, discover all the new content (you need 2 months anyway for it if you came back after years) etc...

And btw, i didnt see anyone with no RTB accounts cry out here they didnt get a month of free gametime - is it because they got their gifts? Or is it they dont care?
Thats realy funny because the majority of players might not participate at RTB and are still not upset they didnt get a month of free gametime - i guess its because they understand what RTB is all about and stands for: Return to Britain: Come back for free for a limited time and check out the new Ultima Online - if you like it, subscribe and enjoy the full game.

All we do with our harsh and overemotional critisism is to piss off the volunteers who support "our" game the best they can because they love it and sometimes i even think live for it, but, as someone else said on this thread, this is the wrong group to load of all the ****z of anger about something not working - and even worse, if they expain the situation, or try to, they get even more attacked and flamed - even accused to get PAYED for ther opinion and "defending" EA/Mythic.

Critics are fine, if they dont come together with emotions - which is very difficult - it leads to overreactions that, if you overthink them and read them again if you calmed down, let you regret what you did 99% of the time the next day...and most of the time you discover, it was for nothing realy important ;)
 

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That was the funniest thing I've seen on this board in a while..
Fact 1. The are around 30 EMs
Fact 2. They are paid by EA
Fact 3. They post here
Fact 4. When they post here, they dont disclose that they are paid by EA
 

Petra Fyde

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fact 1. possibly true, I haven't counted
Fact 2. agreed
fact 3. Actually, to the best of my knowledge, most of them don't, except in an official capacity on their EM boards. Of course you may have more insight into their regular ids than I do. I'd be delighted if you would pm me and share that knowledge.
Fact 4. That's because they're not allowed to.
 
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