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So how "rare" are Daemon Claw drops?

startle

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I killed 8 and got tired of it, zero claws... How "rare" are these to drop?

thx :rant2:
 

Farsight

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I typically get one or two per mini-spawn (those with fire demons).
 

Bobar

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Aint the RNG weird - I have only ever done one and yet I got a claw. Didnt even know they were considered 'rare' at all, are they?.
 

Restroom Cowboy

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Drop rate on these is pretty poor...but then again the need for them is not very high...at least compared to many of the other mats.
 
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Fink

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Not so bad, I think on the last spawn I did I got 3 which seemed average.
 
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Dolphoenix

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or you could just do the quest -
10 bamboo flutes + 1 elven fletching = 1 daemon claw
 

Tina Small

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True, but elven fletching is rarer, though easier to obtain.
A character with 90 Bowcraft/Fletching skill can make one Elven Fletching by using a fletching tool along with 1 Faery Dust and 20 feathers. Faery Dust comes from Fairy Dragons, Pixies and Wisps in the Abyss.
 
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georgemarvin2001

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I get about 1 claw per 10 daemon in the area next to Ter Mur. I've just gotten 1 from several spawns in the area below the renowned pixie. I think the two spawns have different loot tables, with the percent chance of getting a daemon claw much higher in the area close to Ter Mur.

The problem with making elven fletchings is that the fairy dust is extremely hard to get. You can only get them from the wisps and fairies. Unfortunately, the renowned fairy is always spawned, and is almost impossible to kill, and you have to kill it to re-start the wisp spawn. You can take a mage with 200 mana and 20+ MR, and spam EVs continuously for 30 minutes, and it will still be at 75% life. Likewise, it kills daemon and rotting corpses in seconds. I don't know about tamers, but the fact that I haven't seen any tackling it would indicate that either it isn't worth their time, or it eats dragons for lunch, too.

Likewise, I hunted the discarded for a long time, and only got 3 fletchings.

It's easier to just directly hunt the daemon for the claws, rather than make them.
 
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Evlar

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I too found the percentages of getting the claws, from the volcano area to the north-west of Ter Mur Royal City, quite a bit higher than any of the mini-spawns in the Abyss.

As such, if I need to collect them, that's where I usually tend to go.
 

aoLOLita

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or you could just do the quest -
10 bamboo flutes + 1 elven fletching = 1 daemon claw
Where is this Trader again? EF ingred - lower requirements - is such a worthless mod, that I have about 2 dozen gathering dust from my frequent Cavern forays. Daemon Claws always useable because it takes 10 of them to make a Demon Slayer.

Do the flutes haveto be exceptional?
 

Tina Small

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The problem with making elven fletchings is that the fairy dust is extremely hard to get. You can only get them from the wisps and fairies. Unfortunately, the renowned fairy is always spawned, and is almost impossible to kill, and you have to kill it to re-start the wisp spawn. You can take a mage with 200 mana and 20+ MR, and spam EVs continuously for 30 minutes, and it will still be at 75% life. Likewise, it kills daemon and rotting corpses in seconds. I don't know about tamers, but the fact that I haven't seen any tackling it would indicate that either it isn't worth their time, or it eats dragons for lunch, too.
A tamer shouldn't have any trouble with the renowned pixie. All it takes is patience, bandages and/or mana. However, since you can't buy "patience" with UO gold, it seems to be in very short supply these days.
 
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Stupid Miner

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Excellent collection of data, SM... Thanks !
BTW, how would I have ever found that thread if you hadn't posted it? What section is it under?
It's not, it's just a page to throw a bunch of raw data on to be used as needed later
 
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Stupid Miner

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A character with 90 Bowcraft/Fletching skill can make one Elven Fletching by using a fletching tool along with 1 Faery Dust and 20 feathers. Faery Dust comes from Fairy Dragons, Pixies and Wisps in the Abyss.
True, but Pixie Dust sells for more than Demon Claws
 

Tina Small

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True, but Pixie Dust sells for more than Demon Claws
I've never tried selling (or buying) imbuing ingredients, so I guess I'm unfamiliar with how they're being priced. It just seems as if the faery dust should be a little more abundant than daemon claws since more types of monsters drop it. I just did the pixie/wisp spawn on Formosa with a very sub-par greater dragon. We were there for 65 minutes and killed two renowned pixies (one when we arrived and one right before leaving) and all the spawn that showed up in between (other than two dark wisps that spawned underground). My tamer walked out with 10 faery dust, 9 essence of feeling, 6 ancient pottery fragments, and just over 17k in gold. Did not stop to loot the single gems because it's too time consuming in the legacy client. And we were killing stuff slowly and carefully because of the high ping and because the tamer's suit won't stand up to much abuse from the dark wisps and withering mobs.

So is it typical to be able to gather 10 faery dust in about an hour? Do folks gather that many or more daemon claws in an hour?
 
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Yen Sid

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So is it typical to be able to gather 10 faery dust in about an hour? Do folks gather that many or more daemon claws in an hour?
Idk about the dust but Daemon Claws, if thats all your after, just go NW of Ter Mur to the volcano/lava area and a fire daemon is always up there and he spawns pretty much right away after killing him. I get one like every other time I kill him. It a lot easier than trying to work up a whole spawn.

*Edit* I should have read every post, this has already been mentioned, sorry all.
 

Flutter

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They are only rare when they are specifically what you are looking for.
 

Kirthag

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I'm on Napa and I sell the materials on my NON-Luna vendors... and I sell out frequently.
I dunno if luck has anything to do with the frequency - I like to think it does swing the RNG in my favor tho.... I regularly hunt with minimum 500 luck in the Abyss, maximum luck over 1k when I want to unravel items

Demon Claw areas:
--- Just past the Underworld entrance - about 1 in every 5 drops
--- Just past the TotK entrance - about 1 in every 15
--- Below Pixieland - about 1 in every 20

Fairy Dust locations (much rarer drop than Demon Claw)
--- Pixie land - I've only gotten them off the first round pixies, nothing else, and that is about 1 in the entire spawn. I reserve my fairy dust for exclusive customers rather than let the Luna people buy me out.
--- Fairy Dragons (toward the Stygian Dragon lair) - about 1 in every 30 fairy dragons, if the servants and wyverns don't get them first as they decay before looting rights are released.

In my hunting, I have a much _easier_ time getting the claws than the fairy dust.
 

Clog|Mordain

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They are only rare when they are specifically what you are looking for.
QTF. I spent 5 hours the other day trying to get 20 essense of singularity... Any other day and I can get 10 in 20 minutes... It was only because I needed them to finish off a jewelery set :gee:
 

Tina Small

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I'm on Napa and I sell the materials on my NON-Luna vendors... and I sell out frequently.
I dunno if luck has anything to do with the frequency - I like to think it does swing the RNG in my favor tho.... I regularly hunt with minimum 500 luck in the Abyss, maximum luck over 1k when I want to unravel items

Demon Claw areas:
--- Just past the Underworld entrance - about 1 in every 5 drops
--- Just past the TotK entrance - about 1 in every 15
--- Below Pixieland - about 1 in every 20

Fairy Dust locations (much rarer drop than Demon Claw)
--- Pixie land - I've only gotten them off the first round pixies, nothing else, and that is about 1 in the entire spawn. I reserve my fairy dust for exclusive customers rather than let the Luna people buy me out.
--- Fairy Dragons (toward the Stygian Dragon lair) - about 1 in every 30 fairy dragons, if the servants and wyverns don't get them first as they decay before looting rights are released.

In my hunting, I have a much _easier_ time getting the claws than the fairy dust.
I spent a few more hours doing the pixie/wisp spawn on Formosa with a really crummy (but now almost fully trained) GD and wearing a 286 luck suit. Here are the totals from all six rounds of killing all the spawn (except for any dark wisps stuck underground):

Round one: 10 faery dust and 9 essence of feeling.
Round two: 8 faery dust and 8 essence of feeling.
Round three: 17 faery dust and 9 essence of feeling.
Round four: 20 faery dust and 6 essence of feeling.
Round five: 7 faery dust and 3 essence of feeling.
Round six: 15 faery dust and 9 essence of feeling.

Totals: 77 faery dust and 44 essence of feeling.

Not one of the six Renowned pixies dropped faery dust, essence of feeling, or an artifact--just the usual approximately 1400 gold and lousy loot.

The last two the GD killed went down the fastest. The round before that...I thought the stupid thing would never die. We had to leave for more bandages. Must have wasted a good 45 minutes trying to kill it, leaving, walking back in and finishing the job.

I don't think the dark wisp that was stuck underground was healing the Renowned pixie and I'm 99% certain it wasn't hitting the GD with an area effect. However, I think it's a good idea to try to stay as far away from those stuck wisps as possible when you're killing the Renowned pixie. My gut feeling is that somehow the pixie is syphoning mana or something off the stuck dark wisp, even if it normally kills them. Or maybe the GD just got better at killing them. Who knows.
 

Farsight

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That's interesting. I just now finished killing just wisps and dark wisps (pixies were nonexistent when we arrived) and got 8 faery dust and 8 essence of feeling. My tamer has a whopping 286 luck on her suit and had not used the luck statue.

Edited to add: Killed the Renowned pixie and then all the pixies, wisps and dark wisps that spawned after that, except for one dark wisp that is stuck underground. Now up to 25 faery dust and 17 essence of feeling. Still at just 286 luck.

One more edit to report round four totals: 20 faery dust and 6 essence of feeling. Still at just 286 luck. So that's a total of 63 faery dust and 40 essence of feeling today from four rounds of killing pixies, wisps, and dark wisps. The renowned pixies are definitely not worth the time and bandages but at least they are staying put and my GD's getting some superb training.

Oh what the heck, one more round: 7 faery dust and 3 essence of feeling.

Very interesting.
Your lucky day.

I can't comment on fairy dust (I get mine from fairy dragons), but with regards to demon claws. I once had a streak of three spawns at the underworld entrance where I never got less than 15 essence of passion as well as more than 8 elemental crusts and 5 demon claws. I didn't want to leave that spawn that day, especially since demon claws aren't the easiest thing to come by.

But I find those streaks more the exception than the rule.
 
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jfkeach

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I get about 1 claw per 10 daemon in the area next to Ter Mur. I've just gotten 1 from several spawns in the area below the renowned pixie. I think the two spawns have different loot tables, with the percent chance of getting a daemon claw much higher in the area close to Ter Mur.

The problem with making elven fletchings is that the fairy dust is extremely hard to get. You can only get them from the wisps and fairies. Unfortunately, the renowned fairy is always spawned, and is almost impossible to kill, and you have to kill it to re-start the wisp spawn. You can take a mage with 200 mana and 20+ MR, and spam EVs continuously for 30 minutes, and it will still be at 75% life. Likewise, it kills daemon and rotting corpses in seconds. I don't know about tamers, but the fact that I haven't seen any tackling it would indicate that either it isn't worth their time, or it eats dragons for lunch, too.

Likewise, I hunted the discarded for a long time, and only got 3 fletchings.

It's easier to just directly hunt the daemon for the claws, rather than make them.
My dragon takes the Reknowned Pixie, just needs healing and patience. It ate my Sampire like it was a snack. But it's doable. And I get fletching from Rat Spawn too. I did demons for 6 hours yesterday and got 4 claws.
 
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