Yeah and not only do you have to switch skills like someone pointed out there is also stat redistribution you may need to worry about. But yeah one char only has hurt us badly I think. Soulstones did help the problem but like I said not everyone can afford lots of soulstones. I think even if it was just one more slot we would get some more people willing to try Siege. Same thing with the house thing even if they were limited to a tiny house that they had to refresh every week or so.
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Yeah and not only do you have to switch skills like someone pointed out there is also stat redistribution you may need to worry about. But yeah one char only has hurt us badly I think. Soulstones did help the problem but like I said not everyone can afford lots of soulstones. I think even if it was just one more slot we would get some more people willing to try Siege. Same thing with the house thing even if they were limited to a tiny house that they had to refresh every week or so.
The rules about one char slot was made to stop reds from having a blue char too and to stop PvP /PvM'er from having their own crafter.
I don't think the rule is needed now. Most PvP'ers do not want to use alot time gathering resources to craft their own items, they rather buy them.
Also crafting is alot more complicated now.
Also, a few more reds would not hurt, special not the roleplaying ones, it will only give more action to the blue PvP'ers.
Before we got faction, half of the shard was red. We had alot of fun. Now I think we have 12-15 active reds max
I don't think the rule is needed now. Most PvP'ers do not want to use alot time gathering resources to craft their own items, they rather buy them.
Also crafting is alot more complicated now.
Also, a few more reds would not hurt, special not the roleplaying ones, it will only give more action to the blue PvP'ers.
Before we got faction, half of the shard was red. We had alot of fun. Now I think we have 12-15 active reds max
I think a dev told, making 2 char slots is not so easy, it would be easier to give us same count as normal shards
Something to remember about Siege when talking about allowing people to place a house there without jeopardizing their house on another shard is that Siege has no Trammel facet, so it has significantly less space for house placement than any other shard has. And for some unexplained reason (obviously a bug or several bugs that have never been fixed), there are many areas in Ter Mur, Tokuno, and Malas where gating to and from that area to certain other areas is impossible, which makes those areas significantly less desirable for placing a house.
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I dont see Siege providing any more risk. Siege just makes the game 100x more tedious.
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*smiles* Siege is not everyone's cup of tea, Goldberg. We certainly understand this. I will argue that there is more risk.
One character, one item blessed vs insurance, even the guard zones are not 100% safe. On Siege, one account can make a difference and stand out and shine brightly with some determination and a little 'work'.
You call it tedious... I see it as a challenge.
One character, one item blessed vs insurance, even the guard zones are not 100% safe. On Siege, one account can make a difference and stand out and shine brightly with some determination and a little 'work'.
You call it tedious... I see it as a challenge.
I was one of Sieges largest players, WAS but gave up the ghost.
But a few facts that bother me that other people believe:
The shard is no longer a killing 24/7 zone, large houses (besides a castle or keep) can in fact be placed almost anywhere, having more than one character is pointless with the addition of soulstones (usually sold from other players and NOT cost RL money from the online store), you can make good gold doing LOTS of things (but the real issue here is people that think they should do give-away tasks instead of WORKING or TRADING for gold, cause lets be honest if killing headless is below you then why bother trying right?)
Finally, if you cannot fathom losing one item in your pack via insurance then dont even think about trying... If it bothers you that the PK on your shard got away with regs, pots , or aids then most likely you'll be lost on siege... And if your only view of PvP is punching a precast recall spell then stop reading cause the spell doesn't work on Siege.
Siege offers the "never knowing whats going to happen next" aspect. To some this translates into excitement.
So if your truely getting bored with the shard your on, the come give Something new a try. The most youll lose is bank sitting time on your shard.
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But a few facts that bother me that other people believe:
The shard is no longer a killing 24/7 zone, large houses (besides a castle or keep) can in fact be placed almost anywhere, having more than one character is pointless with the addition of soulstones (usually sold from other players and NOT cost RL money from the online store), you can make good gold doing LOTS of things (but the real issue here is people that think they should do give-away tasks instead of WORKING or TRADING for gold, cause lets be honest if killing headless is below you then why bother trying right?)
Finally, if you cannot fathom losing one item in your pack via insurance then dont even think about trying... If it bothers you that the PK on your shard got away with regs, pots , or aids then most likely you'll be lost on siege... And if your only view of PvP is punching a precast recall spell then stop reading cause the spell doesn't work on Siege.
Siege offers the "never knowing whats going to happen next" aspect. To some this translates into excitement.
So if your truely getting bored with the shard your on, the come give Something new a try. The most youll lose is bank sitting time on your shard.
TY for reading.
I hear ya bud. Just not my cup of tea 4 sure.
I love the pvp loot factor just not so crazy about the possibility of a zerg guild being even more powerful because of the ability to wear better gear as a protected group. I am a solo pvper so that would be a bit unbalancing imo with no real workaround other then more defnse which is not my style. Dont wanna get caught up in that everyone running ninja/hide/bombs bs
Not realy sure if I would say there are zergs on Siege anyway. I mean our own guid ARR as quite a few people and so does GIL but not really zergs in the sense that people may be thinking of .
I think I counted about 16-17 unique players. Though to be fair alot of them not active right now due to rl issues
But the past couple of days we have had 8-9 people online at times
Define zerg guild
I guess it's something about using numbers and maybe upper gear to kill.
In the past, we had a few guilds, who tryed to dominate the shard. It's not easy on Siege as the shard will band together against them.
The last years, I had only been attacked of one PK at the time. I believe guilds are more honorable on Siege and will bring the numbers needed for a fair fight.
We did have red RP guilds using the numbers in the past, but many of them was low skilled and they looted very little. The orcs would stop the attack, if you dropped gold and cider.
Siege is different in many ways.
I really like the idea of playing on Siege..but as long as the game "allows" people to use cheat programs the entire idea of PVP is broken IMO and not worth thnking about
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I for one have never used anything while playing UO. I heard UOassist and EZmacros are very useful, but again, it takes the fun out of it for me. Heck! I have never even used UOautomap. I never saw the point. I just go with what UO gives me.
I guess for me, training back when I was on Napa Valley was me on my computer hitting a few keys, and then look down and do some homework... Training on a prodo shard seems like an unending task to me. Siege Perilous was good for me because I was guaranteed to gain .1 skill after 70, and I could still focus on my homework with less key hitting. It took a while also because of skill cap, but now, oh now there is no skill cap. It seems faster and cheaper for players to GM/120 a skill.
I know the population is down on all shards, but it kind of makes me sad to see Siege trying to cater to all the whiners... I am no queen of UO by any sense, except for my fantastic outfits, but that is besides the point... Sure you can't sell stuff to npcs... I have never been able to sell anything to any npcs on any shard I have played on, because I go Dread Lady... It is not like the things you sell will make you rich...
I am not here to try to convince everyone to come to Siege, well kind of, hehe. I know it is not for everyone, but some people do not even know Siege is out there. I want to reach out and let people know that there are other options.
Here is to all my fellow Siege folks for all the support in this thread!
:mylittlepony: Thanks!
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Like I said before... If the only reason you come to Siege is to hang out with me, it is quite alright. I welcome new friendships! Just make sure you bring no insurance, no second house on the same account, and a whole lot of grit!
I guess for me, training back when I was on Napa Valley was me on my computer hitting a few keys, and then look down and do some homework... Training on a prodo shard seems like an unending task to me. Siege Perilous was good for me because I was guaranteed to gain .1 skill after 70, and I could still focus on my homework with less key hitting. It took a while also because of skill cap, but now, oh now there is no skill cap. It seems faster and cheaper for players to GM/120 a skill.
I know the population is down on all shards, but it kind of makes me sad to see Siege trying to cater to all the whiners... I am no queen of UO by any sense, except for my fantastic outfits, but that is besides the point... Sure you can't sell stuff to npcs... I have never been able to sell anything to any npcs on any shard I have played on, because I go Dread Lady... It is not like the things you sell will make you rich...
I am not here to try to convince everyone to come to Siege, well kind of, hehe. I know it is not for everyone, but some people do not even know Siege is out there. I want to reach out and let people know that there are other options.
Here is to all my fellow Siege folks for all the support in this thread! :mylittlepony: Thanks!
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Like I said before... If the only reason you come to Siege is to hang out with me, it is quite alright.
I welcome new friendships! Just make sure you bring no insurance, no second house on the same account, and a whole lot of grit!
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Raja your colors anyone using defalt UOClassic themes can't read it. Try switch themes and see the problem
About cheat programs, I don't think they are used on Siege, you can do well just from getting the right skills and items.
anyone using defalt UOClassic themes can't read it. Try switch themes and see the problem About cheat programs, I don't think they are used on Siege, you can do well just from getting the right skills and items.
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I took a nice long break from UO and only recently returned primarily to see what old friends have been up to and what has changed in the development of the game.
Almost a month later, I'm still playing much to my own amazement. And, I renounced my new player status immediately and started on Siege as I had abandoned my old accounts a long time ago.
For me, it was a no brainer. I get very bored with a game where the biggest risk is an AI. If I returned to UO, even on a brand new character, it would only be on Siege.
Almost a month later, I'm still playing much to my own amazement. And, I renounced my new player status immediately and started on Siege as I had abandoned my old accounts a long time ago.
For me, it was a no brainer. I get very bored with a game where the biggest risk is an AI. If I returned to UO, even on a brand new character, it would only be on Siege.
I wouldn;t say they aren;t used period but you donlt see a lot of blatant cheating in pvp. In the past it was a bit of a problem but not so much now.Raja your colors
About cheat programs, I don't think they are used on Siege, you can do well just from getting the right skills and items.
Yep come give us a try!Ok back to topic, come join us on Siege.
We need all playstyles, momster killers, crafters, resource gartheres, roleplayers, PvP'ers and even thieves and PK's
Those who come here and stick around seem to really enjoy the shard from what I have seen 
No thanks, been there done that.
My main problem with that shard is that everyone there has hiding/stealth, either out of neccesity to avoid being the gankie or because they are the ganker. The people there remind me of old roadside bandits. They all have hiding/stealth and they wait for someone they think they can kill to come along, then gank them, dry loot and then crawl back under whatever rock they were hiding. If they don't think they can take you, well you either never see them or they wait until you're low on life from killing a monster or whatever then gank you.
It's pretty lame to be honest and after 4 solid years there I got sick of playing with a bunch of ganking chicken turds so I dropped my 18x18 house and left 3 fully developed chars to rot.
My main problem with that shard is that everyone there has hiding/stealth, either out of neccesity to avoid being the gankie or because they are the ganker. The people there remind me of old roadside bandits. They all have hiding/stealth and they wait for someone they think they can kill to come along, then gank them, dry loot and then crawl back under whatever rock they were hiding. If they don't think they can take you, well you either never see them or they wait until you're low on life from killing a monster or whatever then gank you.
It's pretty lame to be honest and after 4 solid years there I got sick of playing with a bunch of ganking chicken turds so I dropped my 18x18 house and left 3 fully developed chars to rot.
Well I wonlt deny alot of people have hiding and stealth. However nowadays there really isn;t much ganking. I go out looking for people to kill and most of the time I am solo or maybe have a few guildies with me and most of us do not run stealth/hiding. But for anyone who reads this guys post this is NOT what the shard is now most of the time if you run into a pk it will be solo. And there are very few pks as it is. So if people are worried about getting ganked everytime they go out hunting or whatever don;t it almost never happens. Not to mention most people don;t dryloot though you can expect to lose some stuff but some people will offer buybacks. But yes folks this persons post is not representative of what Siege is now.
But it's what it will become, once there are some easier targets than experienced PvPers for Gankers and PKers to get their jollies from. At least until the PKers ruin their own fun by driving the new players back to the regular production shards. Then of course the PKers will leave.
People pay to play a game to have fun themselves folks, not to be fun for others.
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It might it might not it all depends on the quality and type of people we get. So far most of the new people we get seem to be the pvm/crafter type. With only a few with a strong interest interest in pvp much less pking. And really most of the people that play here NOW are not experienced pvpers. Most are pvmers/crafter types. And most pkers here are decent to new players. So why I can;t deny that what you say MAY happen. It is a bit much to say it WILL happen. Because I have yet to see the shard going in that direction...
Attitudes, especially the virtue of Humility, tends to change a player after they've worked their character up the skill level from scratch and accumulated some sufficient resources. Those "jollies" you speak of convert to in game and forum apologies very quickly once one finds themselves unable to buy supplies from the player run vendors due to their "jolly" reputation.
Yep that is another good thing about Siege. You can;t just hide in the crowd you make a name for yourself good or bad.Attitudes, especially the virtue of Humility, tends to change a player after they've worked their character up the skill level from scratch and accumulated some sufficient resources. Those "jollies" you speak of convert to in game and forum apologies very quickly once one finds themselves unable to buy supplies from the player run vendors due to their "jolly" reputation.
And how exactly do you stop someone from buying something from your vendor?Those "jollies" you speak of convert to in game and forum apologies very quickly once one finds themselves unable to buy supplies from the player run vendors due to their "jolly" reputation.
I understand you can banish someone from your house, but I believe you have to actually target them, which is pretty hard when 90% of the shard runs around hidden.
Maybe not, but I really doubt it. If it's changed it's only because there are way less people and the addition of more land mass made the very small playerbase even more spread out. I'm sure however that if I logged on there right now that within an hour I could find a hot spot and be attacked by some char who I'd be willing to bet my entire UO fortune that they'd have hiding and stealth on their template.
You can be banned from the vendor house which prevents you from buying from any of the vendors. But the issue just isn;t buying from vendors but those that get a bad reputation might find that no one will sell them anything if they ask for something in general chat or they may end up having to pay alot more then others would.
Yes I know that, but since it requires you to target the player you wish to ban, the odds of that person standing there, unhidden is pretty darn slim.
As for the second part, that may be true, but given the fact that most serious Siege players have multiple accounts, that becomes a moot point.
As for the second part, that may be true, but given the fact that most serious Siege players have multiple accounts, that becomes a moot point.
Yeah but it usually gets out pretty quick about whose alts are whose. So yeah you might be able to hide behind an alt char for a time but unless you turn over a new leaf or whatever sooner or later people will figure out it is you. Now of course it does help that the population is low in that regard lol easier to keep track of people.
Maybe maybe not depends on what pk finds you if I found you I donlt have hidding or stealth neither does most of the other pk types in my guild lol. So actually there is a very good chance that IF a pk ran into you that no they would not have hiding or stealth. But really I would encourage people to actually try out Siege. I am not discounting your opinion after all you did play Siege. But you are not playing Siege NOW. So I think if someone really wants to see what Siege is now they need to log on and see for themselves you know?
Well it is one of the reasons. I do really wish the devs would allow a small house to be placed there but require it to be refreshed often. But I doubt it will ever happen. Then the question is ifthey allow it on Siege do they allow it on all shards? And what refresh timer is fair? I mean too long and a house will sit there empty for quite some time before it decays. Too short and if someone has some rl issues and can;t log on then they could end up losing everything. But still I do think a refresh of some sort would be necessary to keep houses from sitting there for monthes or even years empty lol.
Oh I'm certainly not against anyone trying it out and seeing if they like it. Simply telling my Siege experiences and also offering another side of the impression that the OP put out there which is that Siege is full of unicorns and pixie dust when in reality it's not. It's an open PvP shard and IMO worse than Fel on production shards due to the fact that 99% of the time the Devs don't take Seige into consideration when making changes/additions to the game. And in case you're wondering my time on Siege was during the hayday of the stealth tamer who could summon and command their pets without revealing. Good times those were!!
Also another reason for my posting is to say that alot of us have given Siege a serious try, but for reasons previously listed by myself and others it was not to our liking. So the assumption that we're unaware that there's a shard called Seige or how it differs from production shards is completely incorrect.
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Ok yeah I understand some have good reasons for not liking Siege. I donlt think she was assuming though that everyone just hasn;t tried Siege because they were not aware of it. But being that brand new players to the game would not see Siege on the shard list yeah there are probably people who donlt know. I donlt think the OP was trying to make it sound all sunshine and rainbows either but maybe thats just me lol. Yeah I remember those days I actualy quit myself for awhile partially because of that stealth tamer crap. There is still alot of tamers now and yes some of them have stealth lol. They aren;t so bad now though, I think they fixed the issue with them being able to us petballs in animal form which was the most annoying part imo. So to be honest if your heyday was then yeah I donlt blame you for quitting that wasn;t a good time for Siege.
Kinda killed pvp for alot I think.
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Wow... When did I ever say Siege was full of Unicorns and Pixie Dusts? Did you just "skim" through my post? I think I did say something like "Why play it so safe with all that insurance jazz? Come take a little adventure and dare to lose an item or two, maybe even all..."
*reads back* I did!
I am sorry you have a sour spot for Siege. It was not my intention to come here and start any board/shard fights. I just want to see some more people on my home shard. I like to talk... I like to interact with people... And is it so bad of me to promote a little in Uhall?
I know Siege is not for everyone... Heck! I did not even think I would like it when I first gave it a shot. But after playing a few times here, and of course getting killed a few times, I enjoyed the dangerous side of it all. Don't get me wrong, I do not like losing my stuff, but it is just stuff... If people want to play it safe and have all that insurance jazz, and all that running over the NPCs, by all means go ahead... I just want to give Siege a little love across the boards.
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*reads back* I did!
I am sorry you have a sour spot for Siege. It was not my intention to come here and start any board/shard fights. I just want to see some more people on my home shard. I like to talk... I like to interact with people... And is it so bad of me to promote a little in Uhall?
I know Siege is not for everyone... Heck! I did not even think I would like it when I first gave it a shot. But after playing a few times here, and of course getting killed a few times, I enjoyed the dangerous side of it all. Don't get me wrong, I do not like losing my stuff, but it is just stuff... If people want to play it safe and have all that insurance jazz, and all that running over the NPCs, by all means go ahead... I just want to give Siege a little love across the boards.
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You may believe that, but it's not what Siege is or was. Most PK's don't go for crafters and weak chars unless they are very hungry.
Also keep in mind, the avg age on Siege is 30+, maybe even 40+
Right now, we don't have any PK's attacking young players protecter of the [NEW2] tag
Even when the shard did have alot PK's, most did leave NEW alone to give new players time to get stronger
To make a shard like Siege be a success we need.
Crafters to make Suits, weapon and other combad stuff for the PvM'ers and the PvP'ers. There is also demand for Deco stuff.
Resource harvesters to collect and sell crafting/imbuing resources and deco stuff
- Lumbers and Miners
- Monster and animal killers
- Tresure hunters
Blue PvP'ers to protect the farmers and crafters and to fight the PK's
PK's to make the crafters, resource hunters and the blue PvP'ers busy
May be true on other shards but on Siege, most agree to share the fun.
Give it a try and forget this old hate to reds, reds are just players playing an evil char, they do have a heart.
Yes, you may find a place to be attacked but if you show your ghost, the PK will rez you or tell you to res and if your char is new on Siege, he/she will tell you about Newborn on Siege2, [NEW2] and bring you to me or one of my leaders in NEW2, he/she may also hand you some stuff ho help you get started.
All you need to do is to tell you are new and be polite
Give it a try
There is so much land on Siege now, and the few PK's we have can't be everywhere. UO had changed alot and the changes the last years had been good for Siege.
Siege is alot better than normal shards Felucca as we have a community on Siege who care and help each others and our reds are a part of the community.
Yes it's open PvP but Siege is so much more.
Siege is not for all, if you don't enjoy the risk don't play Siege. However we do have alot non PvP'ers who like running shops on Siege as they have customers here
One thing more, the last month, I had done all my crafting in my castle.
It's Public
Doors are anyone secure
There are public teleporter from our New Macincia NEW2 house.
That house is public too
All can visit me in my castle, I have yet to get killed while doing my crafting.
Noone is banned from the house
I'm not hiding.
Yes I do get visitors blue as well as reds.
It's Public
Doors are anyone secure
There are public teleporter from our New Macincia NEW2 house.
That house is public too
All can visit me in my castle, I have yet to get killed while doing my crafting.
Noone is banned from the house
I'm not hiding.
Yes I do get visitors blue as well as reds.
Clearly you didn't play Fel on Chesapeake from fall of 2000 until around 2003. PKs hunt easy targets and then gloat over how l33t they are for killing unarmed Miners.
Talking like you are, I'd say it's a safe bet you play a PKer.
I don't know how it is on normal shards Felucca, I don't play there.
I had been on Siege from the day it was born and yes we did have alot more PK's in the past, sometimes a little to many. PK's are good customers. I was running a shop, back where you could not lock your door in a public house, I was standing outside my villa, crafting and stocking vendors.
Did I get killed, yes that did happen.
Did I lose alot, not really as most did love my vendors and respected me for my job running them. Same reason, I don't get ganked in my castle, reputations.
Some players will die and get drylooted alot on Siege but most sure asked for it
Yes and no.Talking like you are, I'd say it's a safe bet you play a PKer.
I did have a PK char but I did RP the char and did not loot my victims. I would protect their stuff to they was back alive. I would rez them too
Belive it or not, but my victims loved me and did rarely count me so I ended up blue
I was born on Atlantic dec 1997, I loved the interact with the reds and there was many. I first went red after we got stat loss on normal shards and most reds become blue or quit the game.
I got bored so I started to RP
Want to read all my stories from my UO life, login Siege, go to New Magincia, find Young Travelers Inn. There you will find books telling about Freja's life in UO.
I got bored so I started to RP
Want to read all my stories from my UO life, login Siege, go to New Magincia, find Young Travelers Inn. There you will find books telling about Freja's life in UO.
90% eh? Interesting statistic. If 90% of the PKs had those skills on all of their templates they'd would be sacrificing at least two other skills that would make their killing machine templates that you perceive them to be.
None the less. People have been banned from buying from certain vendors in the past on many occasions on Siege. But more important is something somebody recently stated.. Reputation on siege can be your greatest asset or your biggest handicap.
You seem convinced that you'll be miserable no matter what. And that's fine. Your misconceptions or short experiences on siege are not representative of the true every day going ons on the shard.. Now and in the past.
It's not more than a few weeks ago, a PK was begging in the chat, to be unbanned from a vendor shop, he did not know, being banned from the house would stop him from bying from the vendors.
We do have a few stealth PK's, with poison weapon but the ones I had meet run alone.
With new shame loot, you can put together a powerful suit and be able to fight back. Most stealthers are not that powerful.
Most stealthers are blue, traveling to visite vendors or traveling in places with heavy monster spawn.
We do have a few stealth PK's, with poison weapon but the ones I had meet run alone.
With new shame loot, you can put together a powerful suit and be able to fight back. Most stealthers are not that powerful.
Most stealthers are blue, traveling to visite vendors or traveling in places with heavy monster spawn.
I don't know how it is on normal shards Felucca, I don't play there.
I had been on Siege from the day it was born and yes we did have alot more PK's in the past, sometimes a little to many. PK's are good customers. I was running a shop, back where you could not lock your door in a public house, I was standing outside my villa, crafting and stocking vendors.
Did I get killed, yes that did happen.
Did I lose alot, not really as most did love my vendors and respected me for my job running them. Same reason, I don't get ganked in my castle, reputations.
Some players will die and get drylooted alot on Siege but most sure asked for it
Yes and no.
I did have a PK char but I did RP the char and did not loot my victims. I would protect their stuff to they was back alive. I would rez them too
Belive it or not, but my victims loved me and did rarely count me so I ended up blue
Yeah while no doubt in the past there have been some really mean and nasty pks on Siege it really isn;t true that most are the kind that kill and dryloot every crafter they see.