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I have that one chr. on Siege that is seldom found. I do not use smoke bombs on her. She has far more than the minimums in skill points invested in hide/stealth/ninja/ etc. why should anyone find her whom does not have the equal amt of skills points invested in tracking/detect hiddens/ etc. ?
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It is impossible to invest the same amount of points in tracking/detect than one can invest in hide/stealth/ninja. 200 does not equal 320. Although I am now re-explaining the same issue again in this thread, here goes. Detect hidden is fine for initially detecting hiders. The problem with the skill is not that it doesn't work. The problem with the skill is that you can't use it fast enough to make it worthwhile. This is as a result of a timer which was added when production shards got passive detect. WE DID NOT GET PASSIVE DETECT THEREFORE THE ADDITIONAL TIME ON THE TIMER SHOULD BE REMOVED ON SIEGE. If that were done, detect might be a viable solution. Currently, it is not.
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It may be better to ask the dev. team to work to enable the actual tracking skill/detect hiddens less gumping arrow a bit more swifter for the tracking skill to owrk a bit more proficently ...with skill points increased in tracking when to equal the stealther stealthing skills, to enable them, to find us, & then they would FIND them/us etc.
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Again, the problem is not finding hidden players. I can walk through the bank in Luna and bump into half a dozen or more. The problem is in combat against multiple stealthers. Stop thinking about detect and track versus a single hider. WE DON'T HAVE SINGLE HIDERS ON SIEGE. WE HAVE A SHARD WHERE HIDING IS THE NUMBER TWO SKILL ON TEMPLATES BEHIND MAGERY. It is a plague not because Siege players are the only ones who know about hiding. It is a plague because without passive detect and in light of the loooong timer on detect, hiding, especially hide with stealth is a get out of jail free card.
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Sight this example last week 2 whom do kill blues look for blues to kill entered the WBB and wasted 3 blues they seen in the WBB. I was THERE watching hidden..not even stealthing nor moving just observing which I often do like a recon spy chr. They killed the 3 blues...2 seemed to be afk never knew what hit em...1 seemed new no clue to even try to call guards in town in the bank there..so 3 blues were corpses................ no surprise ! BUT had they even walked over 2 tiles to *bump* into an invis..they would have found one more to try to reveal to kill............they did not even THINK others were there hidden just watching them off them other 3 blues............. that too is NOT our fault some that profess to be pks pvpers murderers do not even have the time or intellect sometimes to .............deliberately LOOK to bump into hiddens to FIND them to then try to reveal em to kill em !!
Also not our fault some pvpers pks not firing on all cylinders either ! HAHA
*ahem* they coulda had another corpse many a time... some folks lookin for *targets on siege* are just in too big of a hurry, with attention spans to match.. to even bother to walk a tile or two to deliberately try to find ie bump into.....the rest of us hidden right next to em ... we just laugh at em and stealth away without even a smoke bomb used.
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How is a character in the bank supposed to reveal a hider? Area effect spells do not work. Conflags thrown by a red result in a guardwhack. Conflags thrown by a blue won't reveal hidden blues. Explodes are also a death sentence for reds and do not reveal blues. Yes, you could use detect. But, why waste 100 skills points to detect someone who will instantly rehide and be gone before the skill timer resets? Everyone knows that the hiders are there. One can hardly walk through the bank in Luna without bumping into half a dozen. It isn't laziness or stupidity that keeps everyone on the shard from revealing hidden characters, it is the lack of an effective deterrent to multiple hidden characters.
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Stealth is a survival skill on Siege too, ask the dev. team to enable tracking etc to work a bit better for those whom *use half a brain* and invest the skill points to find folks with trackin detect skills equal to that of the stealthing ones or stealthing ninjas...
but the dev. team can not help any pk or pvper that ...does not utilise the skill call thinking,
*laughs* sorry but many a time they COULD have killed my stealthing hidden non smoke bombed self standing still right beside many of them... had they even thought.......to look for /bump into a hidden right beside many of them ! They were fortunate my chr is a non aggro..but I can see how another that would attack THEM easily could when many a time I myself could have as well simply cuz they did not even bother to take the time to FIND/bump into hiddens to reveal em or track em..whom are oft.. right by their own selves. IF my chr were an aggressive..they could have become.. corpses !
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I think I've already addressed this.
I don't mean to be rude to you QZ. Please understand that an argument to bring balance to hiding on Siege runs right into the fact that 50 percent of the shard has 100 hiding on their templates. It goes back to the argument about how we know something is overpowered. We know because a disproportionate percentage of players add overpowered skills to their templates and the only resolution is an adjustment made by the developers. There is currently no way to effectively deal with multiple hidden targets. You can't detect fast enough and you can't track them all. That is why on Atlantic 1 in 7 players has hiding on their temp and on Siege it is 1 in 2.
