Smoke bombs and hiding need nerf?

[imported_onthefifty]

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He's invested Ninjitsu, hiding, and stealth to be able to do this to you. What have you invested into your template to stop him?

-Steal his smokebombs.
-Get ninjitsu yourself and deathstrike him - now he cant run
-Paralyze/nerve/riding swipe, now he cant move
-Summon a revenant on him, now he cant hide
-Drain his mana, now he cant do that at all
-Strangle him, now he dies a screen or 2 away

etc. etc

Theyve set their template up as 'hit and run'.. that's exactly what they'l do. If your template is setup as pure tank, he should be running from you every time. Unless he has better equipment. Then you're screwed regardless. Spend more on your gear. Expensive gear ftw.

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this was a great quote. you should write a guide. there are 6 defense/counter moves there, awesome. In my limited time playing it seems most things have a counter to them.

 

[imported_onthefifty]

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He's invested Ninjitsu, hiding, and stealth to be able to do this to you. What have you invested into your template to stop him?

-Steal his smokebombs.
-Get ninjitsu yourself and deathstrike him - now he cant run
-Paralyze/nerve/riding swipe, now he cant move
-Summon a revenant on him, now he cant hide
-Drain his mana, now he cant do that at all
-Strangle him, now he dies a screen or 2 away

etc. etc

Theyve set their template up as 'hit and run'.. that's exactly what they'l do. If your template is setup as pure tank, he should be running from you every time. Unless he has better equipment. Then you're screwed regardless. Spend more on your gear. Expensive gear ftw.

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this was a great quote. you should write a guide. there are 6 defense/counter moves there, awesome. In my limited time playing it seems most things have a counter to them.

 

[Guest]

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<blockquote><hr>

He's invested Ninjitsu, hiding, and stealth to be able to do this to you. What have you invested into your template to stop him?

-Steal his smokebombs.
-Get ninjitsu yourself and deathstrike him - now he cant run
-Paralyze/nerve/riding swipe, now he cant move
-Summon a revenant on him, now he cant hide
-Drain his mana, now he cant do that at all
-Strangle him, now he dies a screen or 2 away

etc. etc

Theyve set their template up as 'hit and run'.. that's exactly what they'l do. If your template is setup as pure tank, he should be running from you every time. Unless he has better equipment. Then you're screwed regardless. Spend more on your gear. Expensive gear ftw.

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this was a great quote. you should write a guide. there are 6 defense/counter moves there, awesome. In my limited time playing it seems most things have a counter to them.

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Please tell, me, if you are engaged with another foe in PvP, or in PvM, how exactly are you supposed to either cast on, hit, or even target said stealther before they are smokebomed and gone??????? If I saw my attackie, casting a rev, bam smoke bomb (before the spell is complete) and gone.

 

[Guest]

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<blockquote><hr>

He's invested Ninjitsu, hiding, and stealth to be able to do this to you. What have you invested into your template to stop him?

-Steal his smokebombs.
-Get ninjitsu yourself and deathstrike him - now he cant run
-Paralyze/nerve/riding swipe, now he cant move
-Summon a revenant on him, now he cant hide
-Drain his mana, now he cant do that at all
-Strangle him, now he dies a screen or 2 away

etc. etc

Theyve set their template up as 'hit and run'.. that's exactly what they'l do. If your template is setup as pure tank, he should be running from you every time. Unless he has better equipment. Then you're screwed regardless. Spend more on your gear. Expensive gear ftw.

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this was a great quote. you should write a guide. there are 6 defense/counter moves there, awesome. In my limited time playing it seems most things have a counter to them.

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Please tell, me, if you are engaged with another foe in PvP, or in PvM, how exactly are you supposed to either cast on, hit, or even target said stealther before they are smokebomed and gone??????? If I saw my attackie, casting a rev, bam smoke bomb (before the spell is complete) and gone.

 

[Guest]

Well Para don't work, they just use trapped boxes. Poison won't work they just use petals. Sure you can use Rev on them but they can smokebomb before you finished spell.

Also is kinda lame i need to be necro to fight them.

I play a parry mage btw, So not getting killed often by dexxers alone.

 

[Guest]

Well Para don't work, they just use trapped boxes. Poison won't work they just use petals. Sure you can use Rev on them but they can smokebomb before you finished spell.

Also is kinda lame i need to be necro to fight them.

I play a parry mage btw, So not getting killed often by dexxers alone.

 

[Guest]

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He's invested Ninjitsu, hiding, and stealth to be able to do this to you. What have you invested into your template to stop him?

-Steal his smokebombs.
-Get ninjitsu yourself and deathstrike him - now he cant run
-Paralyze/nerve/riding swipe, now he cant move
-Summon a revenant on him, now he cant hide
-Drain his mana, now he cant do that at all
-Strangle him, now he dies a screen or 2 away

etc. etc

Theyve set their template up as 'hit and run'.. that's exactly what they'l do. If your template is setup as pure tank, he should be running from you every time. Unless he has better equipment. Then you're screwed regardless. Spend more on your gear. Expensive gear ftw.

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this was a great quote. you should write a guide. there are 6 defense/counter moves there, awesome. In my limited time playing it seems most things have a counter to them.

[/ QUOTE ]

Please tell, me, if you are engaged with another foe in PvP, or in PvM, how exactly are you supposed to either cast on, hit, or even target said stealther before they are smokebomed and gone??????? If I saw my attackie, casting a rev, bam smoke bomb (before the spell is complete) and gone.

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Well if you're fighting someone else already, then it's immediately 2 on 1 so the odds are against you anyway. No reason why you shouldn't be in trouble in those circumstances, that's the beauty of a field fight.

 

[Guest]

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<blockquote><hr>

He's invested Ninjitsu, hiding, and stealth to be able to do this to you. What have you invested into your template to stop him?

-Steal his smokebombs.
-Get ninjitsu yourself and deathstrike him - now he cant run
-Paralyze/nerve/riding swipe, now he cant move
-Summon a revenant on him, now he cant hide
-Drain his mana, now he cant do that at all
-Strangle him, now he dies a screen or 2 away

etc. etc

Theyve set their template up as 'hit and run'.. that's exactly what they'l do. If your template is setup as pure tank, he should be running from you every time. Unless he has better equipment. Then you're screwed regardless. Spend more on your gear. Expensive gear ftw.

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this was a great quote. you should write a guide. there are 6 defense/counter moves there, awesome. In my limited time playing it seems most things have a counter to them.

[/ QUOTE ]

Please tell, me, if you are engaged with another foe in PvP, or in PvM, how exactly are you supposed to either cast on, hit, or even target said stealther before they are smokebomed and gone??????? If I saw my attackie, casting a rev, bam smoke bomb (before the spell is complete) and gone.

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Well if you're fighting someone else already, then it's immediately 2 on 1 so the odds are against you anyway. No reason why you shouldn't be in trouble in those circumstances, that's the beauty of a field fight.

 

[Issy]

We have a guild of Ninja’s on the shard that I play. In the guild the ninja’s are required to have Hiding, Stealth and Ninjitsu. If anyone has ever tried to create a template like this you know that Ninja’s are already very limited in what they can do with there template. To keep nerfing them over and over is going to kill what the ninja was intended for. Being able to use the smoke bombs is one of the benefits of being a ninja and it should stay in the game. You can use other means of trying to kill the little bugger. Pvp is supposed to be challenging…. Before you ask to nerf something on a ninja I would suggest going out there and trying to create one with those three skills and see how it is to pvp with them. Don’t keep taking things away, it’s just make the game worse. I wish a long time ago Development would have considered that any changes they ever made to the ninja was based of how much the accumulation of those three skills that the character had instead of just taking it away right off the top…..

 

[Issy]

We have a guild of Ninja’s on the shard that I play. In the guild the ninja’s are required to have Hiding, Stealth and Ninjitsu. If anyone has ever tried to create a template like this you know that Ninja’s are already very limited in what they can do with there template. To keep nerfing them over and over is going to kill what the ninja was intended for. Being able to use the smoke bombs is one of the benefits of being a ninja and it should stay in the game. You can use other means of trying to kill the little bugger. Pvp is supposed to be challenging…. Before you ask to nerf something on a ninja I would suggest going out there and trying to create one with those three skills and see how it is to pvp with them. Don’t keep taking things away, it’s just make the game worse. I wish a long time ago Development would have considered that any changes they ever made to the ninja was based of how much the accumulation of those three skills that the character had instead of just taking it away right off the top…..

 

[GuitarStrings129]

complaining about killing a stealth archer? Hahahah
this game really IS getting more trammel-based

Be gimp like them.

they might be able to hide etc and run away
but if you play like them youll never die to them.

always paralyze them if your a mage. if they have a trap box. work around it. parablow etc.

 

[GuitarStrings129]

complaining about killing a stealth archer? Hahahah
this game really IS getting more trammel-based

Be gimp like them.

they might be able to hide etc and run away
but if you play like them youll never die to them.

always paralyze them if your a mage. if they have a trap box. work around it. parablow etc.