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Scrolls of Valiant Commendation...

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Popps do you actually PvP or do you just comment about it? AoS was a very long time ago and 98% of us players have moved on. Items do have some impact on the game but 5 extra stats don't compared to the suit in general. On a suit I rolled some people I found spawning last night the scroll and it's 5 points make a 1.18% difference to my total overall point total(450 vs 455 after buffing). This is a suit that everyone can build and if I wanted to use either reforging or shame items it could be much better but it's a older faction suit that I can't be bothered with updating.

Get out, fight for a month straight and then report before you say that there should be nothing worth putting in effort for.
 

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I was only reasoning -with my thinking about how I envision PvP in UO-, why I am convinced that a steady drop rate for the Scrolls of Valiant Commendation and their cheap availability to all players, is a good thing for PvP in UO which is the topic of this thread. This, because some posters were instead lamenting them to be too much available and too cheap for selling (I do not see a price tag as 7 or 8 millions as "cheap", but that is another story....). My point is that items meant for PvP (or meant to make a difference in PvP), should be easily obtainable by any and all players in the game for the reasons I tried to explain.

That's it.
They have already added that capability to the game...just not to every shard.

Just go to TC, and use the proper "Get" commands...then you can have whatever you want. But that is NOT what makes UO great, IMHO, and it should NEVER be that way ("EVERYTHING Cheap and Available to Anyone" or whatever you are asking for) on any other shard but TC.

On the Prodo shards, and I have played this game since Beta...the "Fun" for some people (like me and a ton of other folks) is doing precisely what a poster in this thread stated: Farm & Sell Items in Demand for PvP Suits in Trammel. This is BIG business. I scrolled and outfitted 19 characters on three accounts in this fashion. I also purchased a Luna Vendor house over 5 years ago with gold I made from my vendors in the wild. I do not care for non-con PvP, so I don't do it. I farm places that don't allow it, and then sell items that are in demand for PvP to players willing to pay the price. I then use that gold to buy scrolls and/or equipment.

I know that you will come back with a big ole post utilizing many "IMHO"s and "That's the way I see it"...which is just fine, Popps.

But remember, many...in fact, I am betting...most... will never agree with you on this point. There are already games you can go play that only allow combat between similarly outfitted and skilled opponents...but UO is not one of those games. It is UO.

"Cheap" is relative, indeed. 8 Mill is a lot for a new player...but my guild had every member get Crimmys back in the day...in fact...some got lucky and got several Crimmys. But we did it as it was intended...we grouped up, cooperated, and were rewarded for our efforts.

I do not want these items to be readily available to every player without having to pay the proper price for them (and "Price" can also vary player to player, for sure)...and honestly, few if any posters here agree with your point of view on the subject.

But...that's the way I see it. :thumbup:
 

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That´s why I say it´s perfect the way it is: The scroll can be obtained with some effort - but it is not the hardest thing to get. It is not the most valuable piece in this game and yet, it has a certain price (which will in future be between 5-15 mio, I think). And - most importantly - it is totally unnecessary for most people... So, only certain people have to fight for it or to pay. In a nutshell: Its quite nice the way it works...

:gee:

Talked to a very very experienced PVM-person today, he agreed that 250 stats is more than enough for most PVM-chars (especially spellcasters). And we all know, that there are much more PVM- than PVP-players out there today...
 

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I have added the scroll to most of my main PvP guys and I have also added it to my main PvM guy(who can and will PvP). If you can get the scroll for a char whom you use on the field then I say use it but if it's a crafter/tamer/bank sitter/secondary bard I would go with your other guys first.
 

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Well, I have never been a fan of the Age of Shadows release and, in general, of the game shifting the focus from skills to items as in regards determining PvP combat outcomes......
I prefer the early UO, were skills were more significant than items when it came to say who won what fight.......
Skill is the most important. There is a reason top tier pvpers exist that stand out above the rest. A lot of them certainly don't have the best gear. In fact I've noticed the opposite, a lot of bad players have some amazing reforged pieces ect and still are horrible and get killed by players in lesser suits.

Skill > gear, always has been that way, always will be.

Example:
 
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