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Kaladin
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Still number 10 in the help queue for the GM.
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Woodsman
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I think they are done on Catskills. I've went the reverse circuit twice and nothing, and nothing at SE-1.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO BUY PLOTS USING TRIAL ACCOUNTS ???
The key issue is all there.
I have been asking this same question for weeks now without having a response.
If the developers made the mistake to allow for trial accounts to purchase magincia plots tickets then the ALL lottery is messed up. Particularly those 12 plots which can only be pirchased 1 per account.
The official notes said that they designed a FAIR lottery drawing system but if trial accounts were allowed to buy tickets then I do not see how on earth this will be fair AT ALL !
Anyone knows ??
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Kaladin
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Yeah, I think they guy has taken a break here on Pacific too. I can actually use the sleep.
we know, and I just tested it. If they didn't figure out a trial workaround, then how do they have 50+ (so far we know for sure) active accounts with young characters? That's almost $650 in account costs per month to buy tickets... I highly doubt they did that.
Great Lakes is quiet as well.
This would be easily found out by a Game Master. Just tag the acccound and see the IP address. Then check for same IP address if it matches other UO accounts and tag them all for further investigation.
That is if a Game Master actually showed up to investigate the issue......
europa and LS plots C-2 holding the same tickets. Seems they stopped there too for now.
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Woodsman
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Now we maybe seeing the same accounts on all shards. They could easily be logging out at SE-1, and even though it has a timer when they log out that way, they could be logging into another shard with that same account.
I've seen at least two active at once. They might just have half a dozen or a dozen accounts and are rotating through.
That would be a shame if it was locked, because we've obviously found somebody trying to game the Magincia lottery somehow.
I really don't get the 44 tickets thing. They could just take one account and buy X amount of tickets for those. The northern plots I could see having multiple accounts to get a ticket at each. Probably they gave the same amount of money to each char now that I think about it.
And Catskills is empty, I'm moving to another.
I would love for EA to do something. I've got some video and screenshots, including video of the 44 tickets thing.
I don't think there are any at this time of night.
Nonetheless, I think the developers should actually LOOK into details of what accounts got tickets and if they find out that there are accounts that are not paid for (i.e. without an active subscription paid for....) still holding tickets, ban them from the lottery outright and perhaps even ban the player (whatever other UO accounts they may have...) from UO.
I know one account for multi-shards BUT. They have been buying multi northen plot tickets every 5 minutes (when they were active).
p.s. I'm stuck at 15ith in que still. I'm willing to bet there are no GMs right now.
I would expect an online game like Ultima online, serving customers across the planet (i.e. at any and all time zones...), having an in-game customer support that is up and running 24/7...
Of course with shifts, of course with reduced personnel during off hours but still, I would expect at least "someone" to be there at all times....
one thing we know for sure is that they are running a script. IF they can find this person I say ban them, their CC info (on their main) and their IP address. Clearly this is the exact type of person that is runing this game that we all hate. Could you imagine this many accounts macro mining, lumberjacking, 'bottle selling' ect ect.
Hell, that's probably where they got all the gold for this lotto. I bet they have a few main accounts standing somewhere feeding all the young players gold for tickets.
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Woodsman
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Chessy and Cats are currently empty, I've done two circuits against their circuit and nothing.
They seem to hit the shards pretty randomly.
They seem to hit the shards pretty randomly.
i've got nothing to report. I bet they stopped because they saw us following them lol.
but I sent Mesanna an email with a link to this thread, I hope she checks into it. I don't think it would be hard to get some account info from the tickets bought at the times we listed them... I hope
but I sent Mesanna an email with a link to this thread, I hope she checks into it. I don't think it would be hard to get some account info from the tickets bought at the times we listed them... I hope
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Woodsman
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Chessy, Cats, and Drach, and LS are done. I'm going to hit Lake Austin and the Japanese shards. Hopefully I won't get pked again on the way to a gate (bless you Chessy 
), I keep forgetting most of my throw-away chars are logged out in Fel/Brit.
), I keep forgetting most of my throw-away chars are logged out in Fel/Brit.
haha, would have been funny to make a HUGE maze that just leads them in circles for an hour!
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Woodsman
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One of you guys join me at C-1 on Baja, I think I found them, but they've changed up their attire. Still clearly a new account, same horse, same behavior.
They logged out and then logged back in...I would like to get a complete circuit from start to finish..
They logged out and then logged back in...I would like to get a complete circuit from start to finish..
on my way sir
wow
just wow if they can. amazing screw up by devs.
all of us got screwed by the scripters when luna opened now we gonna get it here too.
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Woodsman
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Welp, he/she responded to us.
But she said she saw one of those characters on Baja, so I think it's safe to say most shards were hit tonight. I'm heading to Japan.
But she said she saw one of those characters on Baja, so I think it's safe to say most shards were hit tonight. I'm heading to Japan.
I'm really laggy there, but I'm doing the same. lol I loved it "what did I do wrong?" haha, she was nice about it though
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Turn this into a 'let's bash the devs' thread and I lock it.
Turn this into a 'let's bash the devs' thread and I lock it.
WoW, Yamato is popular, around 800 tics per northern stone.
236k on c-1
no noob necros in sight here, but ill hang around for a few minutes and see.
236k on c-1
no noob necros in sight here, but ill hang around for a few minutes and see.
point Taken, however keep in mind we used a big "If" in those statements! but as I at least saw, you can't readily do it on a trial account, unless they found a bug/workaround.
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Woodsman
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Hey Petra, could you ask around Siege and see if anybody did it there. I doubt it, but I'm curious.
This is probably going to be a one time thing since they were buying very specific numbers of tickets. I doubt they'll repeat it tomorrow night (assuming the plots aren't handed out in a few hours at server up).
I'm also sure this thread would freak them out.
This is probably going to be a one time thing since they were buying very specific numbers of tickets. I doubt they'll repeat it tomorrow night (assuming the plots aren't handed out in a few hours at server up).
I'm also sure this thread would freak them out.
Europa is still going on, and their server down time was a few hours ago. So I'd have to assume it will be going on tomorrow at least.
p.s. nothing on Yamato for now. Seems they might be done for now... but I have nothing better to do, so I'll keep checking till server down
EDIT: so it seems I have a lot of practice weapons to sell on most shards heh, fun logging into ancient characters.
hmm, I don't have an awful lot of time right now. It's cleaning day, I'm just checking boards between chores. I doubt anyone would bother with Siege, no way to transfer your ill gotten loot off, but I'll try to have a look.
I haven't even been to Magincia in months, I have no interest in a house there.
I haven't even been to Magincia in months, I have no interest in a house there.
I went to go check, but I'm naked and at serps hold... seems I shall not be leaving this island... ever haha
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Woodsman
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Me too. Lots of personal bless deeds, practice weapons, and old holiday stuff.
And I can authoritavely report that Ocean's pkers are out in and about near the Brit moongate and they aren't very good
But I made my way to New Magincia and rezzed, and nothing other than somebody told me they saw a one-named young character in blue and on a horse moving around New Magincia about two hours ago or so, but they didn't bother looking at the paperdoll. I think that is probably our guy, but nothing now. I will head to Japan and work from the lower shards (alphabetically).Besides the 44 ticket thing, I wonder why they'd be so blatant as to have every character dressed identically and with a similar naming scheme. That's just begging to be noticed.
I don't think Balhae has been hit, because some of the southern plots have incredibly low numbers. Too low for somebody with multiple accounts buying up 44 tickets every time to have hit it. Like low 200s.
Me too. Lots of personal bless deeds, practice weapons, and old holiday stuff.
And I can authoritavely report that Ocean's pkers are out in and about near the Brit moongate and they aren't very good
Besides the 44 ticket thing, I wonder why they'd be so blatant as to have every character dressed identically and with a similar naming scheme. That's just begging to be noticed.
I hit up a few, stood around Drachenfels for a bit and europa, didn't see any. Asked someone on GL and they didn't see them either.
they seem to be gone for now, going to get outtie. I'll be checking randomly tomorrow.
was fun hunting with you woodsman!
was fun hunting with you woodsman!
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I'm going to call it a night, the Japanese shards I checked had some southern plots with numbers down close to 200, and I saw enough accounts on LS earlier to have bought at least 220 going by the 44 ticket thing. Given the situation in Japan, I doubt they would be able to profit much anyways. They probably picked shards they could make a profit on. I didn't check Fel, but they had young characters buying tickets and youngs can't go to Fel. Plus in Fel, the NPCs and animals could throw off the scripts by fatiguing the characters.
I hope you all can get a GM.
We should have completely surrounded one of the bots with chests/bagballs and seen what happened, but we know they are scripting anyways.
I hope you all can get a GM.
We should have completely surrounded one of the bots with chests/bagballs and seen what happened, but we know they are scripting anyways.
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Woodsman
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Was fun hunting with you as well.
And thanks to Kaladin for picking up on the scripting.
If you go back and read the other thread, I was pretty oblivious to how organized it was until Kaladin put it together. I thought they were just monitoring the tickets or something, but Kaladin figured out they were buying them, and in weird amounts.
About three and a half hours ago I posted this
And thanks to Kaladin for picking up on the scripting.
If you go back and read the other thread, I was pretty oblivious to how organized it was until Kaladin put it together. I thought they were just monitoring the tickets or something, but Kaladin figured out they were buying them, and in weird amounts.
About three and a half hours ago I posted this
You playing EC?
What? They will get is a 72 hour ban. Still be able to log in before the 30 day window for winning lotto deeds.
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Woodsman
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Yeah, and I thought it was an EC bug at first because I remember that, but after thinking about it, it was only chars at SE-1 that were doing the popping on and off thing, and they would do it even when I was already there - I thought it was me coming from off screen, which could have been the bug, but nope. If I caught them at another plot, even stopped, they weren't popping on and off. If it was a problem with EC, I should have seen the popping on and off when I came up on them at other plots, but it was only at SE-1. Also the way they positioned themselves at SE-1 made me think that because they were so close to the tombstone, it would be easy for them to accidentally double-click themselves. Then again, a script should be accurate. They were consistently positioning themselves at a very specific orientation and closeness to the tombstones, even after being temporarily blocked.
However, I think they were also logging in and out multiple times at SE-1 on the same char which could explain the dismounting thing, because I remember their name flashing on screen like they had lost connection and then logged back in, which could have been a bug in their script or them checking tickets sold. I know for certain they were all logging off at the exact same spot, SE-1. We watched them log out there. They weren't traveling back to some central location which makes me think "throwaway accounts" as well.
Which makes me wonder, could a GM tell who is logged out at a particular location?
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I made a trial account just to check this, Trail Accounts can not purchase into the Magincia plots, while under the 15 day restriction. Now if the dude opened a ton of accounts, with old 30 day codes a couple weeks back.... then there's probably not much we can do about it.
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Kaladin
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I'm feeling a little sad today. I was dreaming about winning a plot in Magincia last night. And, when I wake up my odds of winning the plot (or any other plot I had bid on) were dramatically decreased.
It's hard to know how much of that was from one guy who was running the 50 accounts or if it was from "legitimate" competition.
I actually got one of my WoW friends to come back to the game last night. He reactivated his account on Great Lakes I believe. Now, I have to tell him that there are still massive cheats going on in the game and how disapointed I was over the whole event.
When I "came back" (I've always had an active account. I mean "came back" as in actually playing the game) to this game, I should have realized it's an old game and the ways to beat the system are many and hard for anyone to control.
Well, it's been about 2 weeks since I rejoined the game and I'm still waiting for my 2nd interview to join a guild.
I have to admit that I'm not quitting the game but I do feel kinda sad now.
It's hard to know how much of that was from one guy who was running the 50 accounts or if it was from "legitimate" competition.
I actually got one of my WoW friends to come back to the game last night. He reactivated his account on Great Lakes I believe. Now, I have to tell him that there are still massive cheats going on in the game and how disapointed I was over the whole event.
When I "came back" (I've always had an active account. I mean "came back" as in actually playing the game) to this game, I should have realized it's an old game and the ways to beat the system are many and hard for anyone to control.
Well, it's been about 2 weeks since I rejoined the game and I'm still waiting for my 2nd interview to join a guild.
I have to admit that I'm not quitting the game but I do feel kinda sad now.
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Woodsman
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So no trial accounts.
It was a lot of accounts and it seems like it would be expensive to re-open a bunch of accounts just to place on the northern plots in New Magincia, given they won't be as valuable as the southern plots. The money that would be spent on 30 day codes for all of those accounts to buy chances at northern plots would have been better spent buying in-game gold and then just using one or two accounts to buy a whole lot of tickets on the southern plots.
Then again, it was a scripter who probably already had a ton of in-game gold, which begs the question...why only 44 tickets per southern plot on every shard we caught them on. Altogether I saw a dozen plus of those characters on LS, and there seemed to be a lot more, but that's still not a lot of tickets per plot, and that's a lot of real-life money that could have better been spent buying gold to buy chances on southern plots.
Out of all of the things to script, why the New Magincia lottery, when the most valuable plots don't need to be scripted since you can buy as many tickets as you want for those.
It was a lot of accounts and it seems like it would be expensive to re-open a bunch of accounts just to place on the northern plots in New Magincia, given they won't be as valuable as the southern plots. The money that would be spent on 30 day codes for all of those accounts to buy chances at northern plots would have been better spent buying in-game gold and then just using one or two accounts to buy a whole lot of tickets on the southern plots.
Then again, it was a scripter who probably already had a ton of in-game gold, which begs the question...why only 44 tickets per southern plot on every shard we caught them on. Altogether I saw a dozen plus of those characters on LS, and there seemed to be a lot more, but that's still not a lot of tickets per plot, and that's a lot of real-life money that could have better been spent buying gold to buy chances on southern plots.
Out of all of the things to script, why the New Magincia lottery, when the most valuable plots don't need to be scripted since you can buy as many tickets as you want for those.
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It wouldn't be expensive if you had a bunch of the old 30 day codes like what you received with the 9th Anny boxes, or other box sets in the past. Heck I can order SE boxes for $.50 on amazon and acquire (50) 30 day time trials for $25.
What I'm thinking considering the activity, is one of the RMT folks is doing this, they are popping up new accounts that were started over 2 weeks ago to get by the 15 day placing restriction, buying tickets with intentions of selling the plots.
That's exactly who it is.
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That's easy...
12 plots @ 10k each = 120k
10 plots @ 2k each * 44 tickets = 880k
total = 1m
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Well I can't think of anyone else that would have the codes laying around. I mean I know I bought like 20+ 9th anny boxes, but I gave most the codes I had to friends and family trying to get them into the game.
No average player would go through all the trouble of trying to win plots on every shard. It makes sense that someone would be doing it try to rake in profit off their website. Check any of the big 3rd party websites tomorrow and I guarantee they will be advertising Magincia plots for sale.