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RESISTANCE....Yes or No...

Norman Bates

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Hello, I am considering making a PVM Swordsman/Mage...the question is, should I include Resist Spells for any reason? I mean, overall is it a useful skill? Thanks in advance for any insight:]
 

Captn Norrington

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It's main purpose is to reduce the amount of time you are paralyzed when something paralyzes you. Paralyze can be broken by a trap box anyway, so personally I don't think there's much of a reason to use it. The extra damage it would have prevented can be healed quickly with magery.
 

Uvtha

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Hello, I am considering making a PVM Swordsman/Mage...the question is, should I include Resist Spells for any reason? I mean, overall is it a useful skill? Thanks in advance for any insight:]
Depends on what you fight. If theres a lot ofcasters especially necro, then you'll probably want some. It's pretty common to swap out resist for anat and vice versa dependin on the situation.

In general id say its up to you. I ran without for ages and was mostly fine but had to avoid certain scenarios cause I'd get clobbered.

If you have a damage shield like pets or summons it's less important.
 

TimberWolf

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like most sampires...mine is strictly PVM... 120 resist spells makes my character way more survivable.
120 resist spells is used on most of my higher end...pvm and all pvp templates..trapped boxes are useless against mana dumps and mana vamps
 

drcossack

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Depends on what you fight. If theres a lot ofcasters especially necro, then you'll probably want some. It's pretty common to swap out resist for anat and vice versa dependin on the situation.

In general id say its up to you. I ran without for ages and was mostly fine but had to avoid certain scenarios cause I'd get clobbered.

If you have a damage shield like pets or summons it's less important.
This, pretty much. The only char I don't have with Resist is my tamer, but he's strictly PvM - if he does have to pvp (say, at an Oaks), I get maybe one "All kill" off, die in like 3 seconds, then log to save my pet. My sampires are only GM resist so Blood Oath doesn't annihilate me, and my pvp chars are all 120 resist.
 

Nyses

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Hello, I am considering making a PVM Swordsman/Mage...the question is, should I include Resist Spells for any reason? I mean, overall is it a useful skill? Thanks in advance for any insight:]
It boils down to a personal choice.

My opinion in this case would be to go with resist, it is not just about Para. Mana Vamp will be the death of you in certain situations. And, even if you do have a trapped box, a competent PvPer (that may happen upon you, on occasion) or a lucky mob can chain para you, and make you kill yourself popping the box repeatedly, assuming healing gets interrupted.

So, comes down to - opinion, use of char, and comfort level using/timing items instead of the skill.
 

drcossack

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It boils down to a personal choice.

My opinion in this case would be to go with resist, it is not just about Para. Mana Vamp will be the death of you in certain situations. And, even if you do have a trapped box, a competent PvPer (that may happen upon you, on occasion) or a lucky mob can chain para you, and make you kill yourself popping the box repeatedly, assuming healing gets interrupted.

So, comes down to - opinion, use of char, and comfort level using/timing items instead of the skill.
Mana Vamp, at least in PvM, won't hurt you too much, since you'll likely have a mana leech weap.

For PvP: Yup. I've run into guys without boxes and I have an absolute field day with them. If they're sampires, it's simple to get them away from spawn, paralyze (against GM resist, it last long enough that I can do whatever I want, plus I have Necro to increase the length of it), explosion, para, repeat. It's also why I love Pain Spike - if they have no resist, the damage it does will reflect that (ran into a guy @ Brit during vvv, he ran from me twice. In the second encounter, I noticed how much Pain Spike did & said he won't get away again. When I saw him the 3rd time, he died.)

What I hate more is the guys that have trapped box scripts, and it's easy to notice. Yeah, chain para is a thing, but you need multiple people to do it. 1v1, para spam doesn't work when they have the box script running, because they'll keep moving between casts.
 

hirikawa

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On warior board i asked about this in past. I was using 100 and droped resists to 80, it worked for my char (pure warior). Tried 60 and it seems it's to low, i am paralyzed a lot. But still thinking about droping it all to 0 so i could add 120 to each other stat out there.

Got a newbie question how do i use trapboxes to remove para? Like stoneboots or sth?
 

Smoot

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i would go with resist on this character. 100 is ok for pvm. especially if your using magery for heals a mana vamp or para would be death otherwise. Looks like a fun character, its not really very effective compared to other pvm templates. that magery/eval just takes up too much skill points (remember you need 300 combat skill points for max weapon specail mana use reduction), your casting will be terrible unless you have high end hci/dci 3/1 jewels, SC eats up 2 mods on weapon. If you run protection, thats lowering your resist spells skill already, so would either have to overcap it on jewels or have casting. Like i said, fun, but not very effective overall.
 

drcossack

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On warior board i asked about this in past. I was using 100 and droped resists to 80, it worked for my char (pure warior). Tried 60 and it seems it's to low, i am paralyzed a lot. But still thinking about droping it all to 0 so i could add 120 to each other stat out there.

Got a newbie question how do i use trapboxes to remove para? Like stoneboots or sth?
Get a tinker to booby trap a crate. When you dblclick it, it'll damage you & break the paralysis. If you have UOA, I believe you can make a macro for it.
 

Victim of Siege

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you want it to be made by a human using joat carpentry and about 32.5 tinker(i think this is the right level)
Get a tinker to booby trap a crate. When you dblclick it, it'll damage you & break the paralysis. If you have UOA, I believe you can make a macro for it.
you want it to be made by a human using joat carpentry and about 32.5 tinker(i think this is the right level)
 

Peekay

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Resisting spells affects Paralyze (which can be negated with a trapped box or by taking damage). And it's the main thing people consider, however places that resisting spells really shines is against Stygian Abyss bosses when they cast Fear, which is a paralyze that is not broken by damage and scales longer vs no resist. That and mana drain from any monster that casts magery spells. Also vs pretty much any boss in game that casts magery or necro spells, weaken/feeblemind/clumsiness/curse, mind rot/strangle/pain spike/corpse skin/blood oath.
 
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