I would say especially the moongates. Guards in the towns makes more sense to me but removing them from moongates would be excellent.
I guess this would be a different issue entirely on Siege.
100% agree
Where are blues ganked? I never see blues ganked in felucca. I do know that most pvpers consider non faction blue characters to be in felucca purely to abuse guard zones and attempt to engage in grief play.
There is. It's called Trammel.
No offense, but guard zones only really comes into play if you are working a gank or attempting to heal a red. As far as I am concerned...the guard zones give players who 1vs1 an opportunity to avoid ganks and pick their fights.
He was probably referring to 'non PVP' blues who still use Feluccan towns for whatever reason. You don't see them getting ganked because they are in town, in the guardzone...the same one you want to remove. Is your aim to push people to Trammel?
This would at least help, even though it's not as good as getting rid of guards period.
Well, I think there are still some good reasons for guard zones in Fel, though perhaps not as many as there were a few years ago now that most of the real pvp in Fel takes place under the rubric of factions.
That's actually part of the reason people are asking for the guard zones to be removed. They are interfering with the ability to heal red faction mates, and allowing blues to interfere with factions battles involving red combatants.
Well, you make at least one good point. It's just a really hard system to "fix" without doing something completely draconian, such as if you are in factions making you only able to attack or be attacked by faction enemies - not a solution I would like at all.
Bud, I've been around since back in the day. Since well before the bs that was stat loss for reds. I also know that addition is considered by most true veterans to be one of the 2 worst changes ever. I do everything in fel. My crafters regularly beat the pants off of regular pvpers. My pvm chars could wipe the floor with most factioners. My characters are mostly red. I play many shards, I have many reds.
I don't know what that is. My crafters are all in factions, my farmers are in factions. Frankly, I believe you should have to declare allegiance to a faction to even enter felucca at this point. one of the 4 factions or non-alligned and thus gray to all.
Ummmm. I've been in factions since they came out. I was blue for a total of like 20 minutes in factions.
Like most false veterans, you've made a classic mistake. The reprieve lasted a short while for the initial addition of factions. After that short period, the reprieve was ended.
so UO should just favor dexers and mages are all evil. Got it. /end sarcasm
They fight and attempt to control and dominate everything? That's pretty much what factions are supposed to be about bud.
Yep. In UO, the system is as such. Enemies outside your faction are high priority enemies. Enemies outside your guild but in your faction are merely rivals attempting to sieze control of your faction. I question your grasp of in game politics or whether you even play.
Interesting assertion. What makes you think I am a false veteran?
It was designed to dominate towns, and set the economy of towns. Factions arrived like one year before the stupid pub16.
You very nicely ignored the part where I said that most faction players are in faction just for super arties... In game politics... funny. A player with 10 accounts would probably seize any faction on my shard with going once in his life to felucca...
Oddly enough, the introduction of skill loss is when UO started to consistantly gain players. So what do you call "true veteran". UO has never been a shoot them up. If you want to kill people on sight, you can play Quake. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. All your troubles will be solved the day you are back to blue.
Actually it comes into play if a blue attacked a red then the blue runs back to a guard zone and get cross heals from another blue which the red can't attack. He's protected by guards and can't be targeted by the red which he's technically preforming a negative action against, and the red can't do anything about it :/.
When the guard zones were last turned off I went to Felucca to buy jewels for imbuing and a red appeared IN the jewelry store with my all but naked, untrained character and PK'd him. He must have been hidden in there for some reason but, for crying out loud... I was in Britain right beside WBB!
So, what you are telling me is that you want no one that isn't into PVP in Felucca whatsoever? I go to Felucca to buy stuff, mine, chop wood etc because of the double resources. That is why the resources were doubled there, remember? Because people griped about Felucca being a ghost town. If you want it to be a total ghost town, take out the guard zones.
Things are doubled because it's dangerous and there is risk of death remember?
Once again, you exhibit your propensity to jump to conclusions.
Might have a big problem getting people to agree with this when Felucca has double resources.
I can understand why some people see this as a problem. But its not a game mechanic problem its a problem of their own by going red. Simple solutions, play faction as blue.
Because part of the issue is harassing blues spend all their time trying to disrupt fights and then hide in the relative safety of guards.
Your solution is make more pvp characters? I'm not sure you're aware but most pvpers already need at least 2 characters on a shard to effectively compete there.
Your opinion is very biased. In the first hand, it's reds that grief play blues. If you were not red, then no blue would be able to disrupt your fights with impunity. So go blue, and noone will disrupt your fights.
A blue attacks me, and he's gray. His 342587324 friends heal him and they refuse to leave guard zones. If my friend heals me, my friend gets guard whacked. But just for fun, I also can't use my fields, summons or AoEs to fight him.
Well it seems to me you want 100% for the game for you... Either share your champs to unwelcome people or have people interrupt your fights... It s a mmo so you have to socialize, which means accepting the fact that there are people "hostile" to you...
If you attack a player, you are in combat (grey for that player), and can no longer use guards to defend yourself (vs that player)...
