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re recent dev meet & greet on siege perilous

Tanager

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Transcript of the Dev Meet and Greet on Siege Perilous Sept 9, 2019. Edited to remove the farspeaker echo, unrelated text from General Chat, and macro spell-spam as people typed. Italics are people speaking from General Chat channel because we are all squelched in the meeting room.

Instead of forming a line, there was a stone podium instructing people to double click:
[19/09/09][18:53:22] You have joined the queue. You will be teleported up to ask a question when it is your turn. You must stay in the room and online in order to ask your question.

[19/09/09][18:53:44] [<8988222>Mesanna]: Meet and Greet in Serpents Hold starting in 7 minutes
[19/09/09][18:58:19] [Kyronix ]: test
[19/09/09][18:58:35] [Mesanna]: test
[19/09/09][18:59:30] [Mesanna]: shall we begin?



[19/09/09][19:00:24] [<10084971>Liam]: can you see whta i say?
[19/09/09][19:00:29] [Liam]: hello
[19/09/09][19:00:31] [Mesanna]: sorry about that
[19/09/09][19:00:31] [<16503364>Roy Batty]: I want the vvv arties
[19/09/09][19:00:34] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: no

[19/09/09][19:00:35] [Mesanna]: hi
[19/09/09][19:00:40] [Kyronix ]: Greetings!
[19/09/09][19:00:43] [Liam]: i just wanted to say that my rain problem is fixed thanks so much
[19/09/09][19:00:52] [Mesanna]: great
[19/09/09][19:01:05] [Liam]: and i asked for plates but i found out we can dye the ones we make
[19/09/09][19:01:15] [Mesanna]: yes you can
[19/09/09][19:01:17] [Liam]: so im very happy with those
[19/09/09][19:01:23] [Liam]: i didnt know that
[19/09/09][19:01:23] [Mesanna]: wonderful
[19/09/09][19:01:31] [Liam]: thanks for all you guys do
[19/09/09][19:01:34] [Mesanna]: ahh see we can learn something new everyday
[19/09/09][19:01:38] [Liam]: yes
[19/09/09][19:01:40] [Mesanna]: You are most welcome
[19/09/09][19:01:50] [Liam]: thats is all enjoy
[19/09/09][19:01:54] [Mesanna]: you also
[19/09/09][19:01:57] [Mesanna]: see the tile
[19/09/09][19:01:59] [Mesanna]: sweet



[19/09/09][19:02:08] [Mesanna]: hi
[19/09/09][19:02:19] [Tanager]: Hello!
(Deleted the rest cuz I just wanted to say thank you buuuuuut, me being me, somehow got confused, distracted, and flustered by not being able to turn on a single tile to face the dev team for a polite bow before remembering it's an option setting in EC. Let's just pretend it didn't happen.)



[19/09/09][19:04:03] [Mesanna]: Hi Max
[19/09/09][19:04:04] [Max Blackoak]: Hello everyone
[19/09/09][19:04:19] [Max Blackoak]: I'll start with a client question
[19/09/09][19:04:28] [Mesanna]: k
[19/09/09][19:04:37] [Max Blackoak]: with the recent addition to the classic client you added an auto open corpses feature
[19/09/09][19:04:49] [Max Blackoak]: could you add this feature to the enhanced client as well?
[19/09/09][19:05:02] [Bleak]: We can look into adding this to the EC
[19/09/09][19:05:12] [Max Blackoak]: nice
[19/09/09][19:05:20] [Max Blackoak]: I think people would love that
[19/09/09][19:05:29] [Max Blackoak]: ok second question
[19/09/09][19:05:44] [Max Blackoak]: the VvV gump that pops up in VvV towns during fights
[19/09/09][19:06:02] [Max Blackoak]: is rather large and blocks a way too big area on my screen in EC
[19/09/09][19:06:04] [Bleak]: It is in our backlog to add a toggle
[19/09/09][19:06:09] [Kyronix ]: *nods*
[19/09/09][19:06:17] [Max Blackoak]: could you make it scaleable or minimizeable?
[19/09/09][19:06:19] [Max Blackoak]: ok
[19/09/09][19:06:25] [Max Blackoak]: then my third question
[19/09/09][19:06:45] [Max Blackoak]: I found conflicting information on the 5 hci bonus gargoyles get
[19/09/09][19:07:03] [Max Blackoak]: some sources say youcan still get to a combined 50 hci with that
[19/09/09][19:07:24] [Max Blackoak]: others say hci is hard capped at 45 and gargoyles just have a free 5 hci to make it easier to reach 45 hci
[19/09/09][19:07:28] [Max Blackoak]: which is true?
[19/09/09][19:07:29] [Bleak]: If you point out which sources say that we will look into it
[19/09/09][19:07:46] [Max Blackoak]: uoguide.com says 50 hci is no longer possible
[19/09/09][19:07:59] [Max Blackoak]: the player wiki on uo.com has nothing about this at all
[19/09/09][19:08:02] [Max Blackoak]: which surprised me
[19/09/09][19:08:22] [Max Blackoak]: and then people on stratics said either the one or the other
[19/09/09][19:08:23] [Max Blackoak]: so...
[19/09/09][19:08:37] [Bleak]: We will make sure to update the player wiki with the correct info
[19/09/09][19:08:55] [Max Blackoak]: could you say here which is correct?
[19/09/09][19:09:48] [Mesanna]: one sec
[19/09/09][19:09:57] [Mesanna]: looking up something
[19/09/09][19:10:03] [Max Blackoak]: * nods*
[19/09/09][19:10:23] [Bleak]: to my knowledge gargs can no longer go over cap
[19/09/09][19:10:33] [Max Blackoak]: ok thank you
[19/09/09][19:10:44] [Max Blackoak]: well that's it for me
[19/09/09][19:10:49] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19/09/09][19:10:57] [Mesanna]: have a great evening
[19/09/09][19:11:00] [Max Blackoak]: thanks a lot and please reconsider allowing VvV artifacts on Siege =)
[19/09/09][19:11:10] [Max Blackoak]: good night
[19/09/09][19:11:15] [Mesanna]: night



[19/09/09][19:11:26] [Mesanna]: Greetings
[19/09/09][19:11:34] [Xyience]: greatings
[19/09/09][19:11:39] [Xyience]: :)
[19/09/09][19:11:43] [Xyience]: 2 easy ones
[19/09/09][19:11:49] [Mesanna]: k
[19/09/09][19:12:03] [Xyience]: do you have a plan for fix tracking for the curser is correct
[19/09/09][19:12:13] [Xyience]: it is off miles
[19/09/09][19:12:17] [<15770190>Malloc]: how many times do the vvv arties have to be voted down
[19/09/09][19:12:30] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: to many
[19/09/09][19:12:31] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: however many times it takes to get them added, i suppose
[19/09/09][19:12:33] [<16503364>Roy Batty]: we want them maloc
[19/09/09][19:12:37] [<15770190>Malloc]: and I don't
[19/09/09][19:12:42] [<15770190>Malloc]: and others don

[19/09/09][19:12:42] [Mesanna]: the arrow is not accurate?
[19/09/09][19:12:46] [Xyience]: like ill deal with him in a minute
[19/09/09][19:12:47] [<15770190>Malloc]: don't
[19/09/09][19:12:53] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: no
[19/09/09][19:12:55] [<15770190>Malloc]: you lost the last time so be done with it

[19/09/09][19:12:55] [Xyience]: no its about 6-7 tiles off
[19/09/09][19:13:01] [Kyronix ]: Using the skill correct?
[19/09/09][19:13:03] [Xyience]: yes
[19/09/09][19:13:05] [Mesanna]: not ship tracking right
[19/09/09][19:13:06] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: some times is some times not
[19/09/09][19:13:10] [Xyience]: just on land
[19/09/09][19:13:11] [Mesanna]: actual tracking?
[19/09/09][19:13:12] [<14776737>Gouge]: lol, it's never been accurate
[19/09/09][19:13:12] [Xyience]: for stealthers
[19/09/09][19:13:13] [Mesanna]: kk
[19/09/09][19:13:15] [Xyience]: yes
[19/09/09][19:13:16] [Xyience]: the skill
[19/09/09][19:13:28] [Xyience]: easyly off 6-7
[19/09/09][19:13:46] [Xyience]: can u look into that
[19/09/09][19:13:48] [Xyience]: and also
[19/09/09][19:13:49] [Mesanna]: is it one directional or in general
[19/09/09][19:13:55] [Xyience]: yes above
[19/09/09][19:13:58] [Xyience]: NW
[19/09/09][19:14:17] [Xyience]: NW above\
[19/09/09][19:14:26] [Mesanna]: hrm we will check into this
[19/09/09][19:14:30] [Xyience]: please do
[19/09/09][19:14:31] [Xyience]: and also
[19/09/09][19:14:35] [Mesanna]: *nods*
[19/09/09][19:14:38] [Xyience]: while we talking about skills
[19/09/09][19:14:53] [Xyience]: when can detect hiding be fixed
[19/09/09][19:15:07] [Xyience]: the skill is almost worthless here
[19/09/09][19:15:15] [Xyience]: on a place where its needed the most
[19/09/09][19:15:30] [Mesanna]: Can I ask you how you use the skill the most?
[19/09/09][19:15:39] [<15770190>Malloc]: to kill people
[19/09/09][19:15:46] [Xyience]: by targeting
[19/09/09][19:15:50] [Xyience]: with the skill
[19/09/09][19:15:55] [Xyience]: and pasivly never workls
[19/09/09][19:16:21] [Xyience]: i use the skill directly on people and still wont reveal
[19/09/09][19:16:30] [Xyience]: well
[19/09/09][19:16:39] [Mesanna]: I used to use the skill on myself in my house
[19/09/09][19:16:42] [Xyience]: only directly on it
[19/09/09][19:16:43] [Mesanna]: to detect anyone
[19/09/09][19:16:59] [Mesanna]: we will also look into this
[19/09/09][19:17:12] [Mesanna]: any other info you might have to reproduce what you are seeing please email me
[19/09/09][19:17:17] [Xyience]: teh passive detect is totally broken
[19/09/09][19:17:39] [Mesanna]: *nods*
[19/09/09][19:17:45] [Xyience]: other than that
[19/09/09][19:17:50] [Xyience]: we need VvV arties
[19/09/09][19:17:53] [Xyience]: ")
[19/09/09][19:17:56] [<16503364>Roy Batty]: yeah!
[19/09/09][19:17:56] [Xyience]: unblessable
[19/09/09][19:18:06] [Xyience]: a reason to do towns
[19/09/09][19:18:19] [<15770190>Malloc]: no we do not
[19/09/09][19:18:24] [<15770190>Malloc]: they do just fine killin

[19/09/09][19:18:29] [Xyience]: any thaughts on that still?
[19/09/09][19:18:32] [Mesanna]: you are not talking about it working on that character correct?
[19/09/09][19:18:45] [Xyience]: the detect?
[19/09/09][19:18:49] [Mesanna]: yes
[19/09/09][19:18:51] [<15770190>Malloc]: you lose the vote then every year you try to bring it back up
[19/09/09][19:18:59] [Xyience]: any chars ive spoke with with gm also
[19/09/09][19:19:05] [<13643986>Tanager]: When you stealth past a monster and get revealed passivly is what they mean. It does not work when players pass each other
[19/09/09][19:19:12] [Xyience]: but yes mine also
[19/09/09][19:19:24] [<13643986>Tanager]: only thru each other, but that is not the same
[19/09/09][19:19:27] [Mesanna]: ok we will add it to our list
[19/09/09][19:19:40] [Xyience]: sounds good
[19/09/09][19:19:41] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: they arent
[19/09/09][19:19:42] [Xyience]: ty
[19/09/09][19:19:44] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19/09/09][19:19:48] [Mesanna]: bye



[19/09/09][19:19:56] [Mesanna]: good evening
[19/09/09][19:19:58] [Gouge]: hail
[19/09/09][19:20:10] [<13643986>Tanager]: i think there is some confusion as to which kind of detect he is talking about is all...
[19/09/09][19:20:21] [Gouge]: there's poll on the uoforums Siege, have ya;ll seen it?
[19/09/09][19:20:29] [<15770190>Malloc]: 1) they want to use the skill to allow them to attack hidden people
[19/09/09][19:20:39] [Mesanna]: I have not looked in a few days
[19/09/09][19:20:41] [<15770190>Malloc]: 2) they want people to be revealed when they pass by them
[19/09/09][19:20:42] [Gouge]: various issues were polled
[19/09/09][19:20:50] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: ^
[19/09/09][19:20:54] [Gouge]: was posted origianlly 6 months ago or so
[19/09/09][19:21:05] [<13643986>Tanager]: i know but i think the Devs are confused...
[19/09/09][19:21:10] [<13643986>Tanager]: i just shut up *sigh*

[19/09/09][19:21:11] [Gouge]: anyways, lots of issues are closele divided
[19/09/09][19:21:15] [<17169017>Xyience]: just want the skill to work correctly
[19/09/09][19:21:22] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: stealthers have it too easy on siege. if they don't want to build it for DS damage, they just get bare min for no-fail

[19/09/09][19:21:27] [Gouge]: vvv arties, 2nds houses, more blessed, etc\
[19/09/09][19:21:29] [<15770190>Malloc]: as you want it to work
[19/09/09][19:21:41] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: stealth on this server is overpowered and needs a check in some form

[19/09/09][19:21:43] [Mesanna]: you guys already have 2nd houses
[19/09/09][19:21:43] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: it's pretty obvious
[19/09/09][19:21:43] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: i can wal by with 100 detect and it doesn't work
[19/09/09][19:21:51] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: walk*
[19/09/09][19:21:53] [<15770190>Malloc]: says the player who is only here af week weeks all year

[19/09/09][19:21:55] [Gouge]: can you all just make some decisions and changes and see how things work out?
[19/09/09][19:22:04] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: ?
[19/09/09][19:22:09] [Gouge]: works great, then great, if not then revert
[19/09/09][19:22:14] [<15770190>Malloc]: you don't play here all the time... you come and go like the wind
[19/09/09][19:22:18] [Mesanna]: lol no reverts
[19/09/09][19:22:23] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: so
[19/09/09][19:22:26] [Mesanna]: that is not a good practice
[19/09/09][19:22:29] [Mesanna]: and refuse to do that
[19/09/09][19:22:33] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: i invest a lot of time here you don't know about
[19/09/09][19:22:34] [Gouge]: i mean there' s never gonna be a 100% consensus on most issues
[19/09/09][19:22:35] [<13643986>Tanager]: reverts never work out well
[19/09/09][19:22:45] [<15770190>Malloc]: welcome to siege then
[19/09/09][19:22:49] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: I play here full time and I hate to admit that stealth is absolutely overpowerd here without passive detect

[19/09/09][19:23:00] [Kyronix ]: Just as a note, its helpful if you tag us with an @ on the forums so we get a note to see something
[19/09/09][19:23:01] [Mesanna]: I know this but we are not going to make odd changes
[19/09/09][19:23:03] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: and I use it myself....
[19/09/09][19:23:04] [Mesanna]: that everyone hates
[19/09/09][19:23:07] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: diddo
[19/09/09][19:23:07] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: leapin at 100%s when they ain't even got 50% hehe

[19/09/09][19:23:16] [Gouge]: what i mean by 2nd houses is Siege is a trailer park of empty plots
[19/09/09][19:23:32] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: people have been complaining about passive detect for as long as i've played here.
[19/09/09][19:23:46] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: its always been a problem

[19/09/09][19:23:50] [Gouge]: well i guess my ? is are there changes in store for Siege?
[19/09/09][19:23:50] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: thanks
[19/09/09][19:23:58] [<15770190>Malloc]: or working as it was supposed too

[19/09/09][19:24:16] [Mesanna]: none that are specific to siege at this time
[19/09/09][19:24:16] [Gouge]: it's been a while since Siege had some dev love
[19/09/09][19:24:21] [<13643986>Tanager]: you guys seem to find me pretty well despite stealth lol
[19/09/09][19:24:29] [Gouge]: okie dokie
[19/09/09][19:24:33] [Gouge]: thx
[19/09/09][19:24:37] [Mesanna]: please understand this
[19/09/09][19:24:40] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: tracking and spellweaving (tstorm) is a good way to reveal
[19/09/09][19:24:44] [Mesanna]: except for the artist this is the UO team
[19/09/09][19:24:51] [<17169017>Xyience]: im sending max over to "pay the rent" at mesanna's house and convince her... dont fail us Max
[19/09/09][19:24:52] [Gouge]: i know
[19/09/09][19:24:56] [Mesanna]: we have to pick and choose carefully
[19/09/09][19:25:08] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: but the tracking arrow is way off on this shard
[19/09/09][19:25:12] [Mesanna]: when we do something we like it to effect all shards
[19/09/09][19:25:21] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: so its still sorta handicapped
[19/09/09][19:25:21] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: hang on
[19/09/09][19:25:23] [<15770190>Malloc]: tracking arrow being off is defeinately a bug
[19/09/09][19:25:24] [<16503364>Roy Batty]: ugh
[19/09/09][19:25:24] [<17169017>Xyience]: has been along time
[19/09/09][19:25:24] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: actually that was fixed some time ago Crunch
[19/09/09][19:25:25] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: then why make this shard an exception at all?
[19/09/09][19:25:26] [<13643986>Tanager]: is it way off in a consistant manner?

[19/09/09][19:25:28] [Gouge]: ok, well thx. Very nice Talisman BTw.
[19/09/09][19:25:31] [Mesanna]: as much as we would love to have the time and manpower we just don't
[19/09/09][19:25:36] [Mesanna]: lol thanks
[19/09/09][19:25:40] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: I noticed it big time in luna
[19/09/09][19:25:46] [Mesanna]: helps with setting up events for testing the mob
[19/09/09][19:25:48] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: it was legitimately 6 tiles NW of the person I had tracked
[19/09/09][19:25:58] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: hmm has been working fine for me ever since the fix...

[19/09/09][19:25:59] [Mesanna]: my little one hit wonder =P
[19/09/09][19:26:03] [Gouge]: so
[19/09/09][19:26:07] [Gouge]: if i may ask one more
[19/09/09][19:26:08] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: ah when was that fixed?
[19/09/09][19:26:11] [Gouge]: from the poll
[19/09/09][19:26:16] [Gouge]: siege blessings
[19/09/09][19:26:26] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: this char is elf so I haven't been able to play with it much
[19/09/09][19:26:28] [Gouge]: any poossiblilty of it being increased to more than 1
[19/09/09][19:26:45] [Mesanna]: doesn't that go against the Siege ruleset
[19/09/09][19:26:47] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: devs didn't seem to be aware that there was a fix when Xyience was talking about it
[19/09/09][19:26:48] [Mesanna]: for the most part
[19/09/09][19:26:55] [Mesanna]: Siege is the wild west
[19/09/09][19:26:59] [Gouge]: Seige ruleset is 20 yrs old
[19/09/09][19:27:04] [Mesanna]: yes it is
[19/09/09][19:27:12] [Gouge]: from before all the item based stuff we have now
[19/09/09][19:27:14] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: "siege is the wildwest" "WE CAN'T HANDLE WILD WEST VVV ARTIES BLAAAAGGGHHH"
[19/09/09][19:27:24] [<16503364>Roy Batty]: laughs
[19/09/09][19:27:27] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: yeah I am now doubting myself...I clearly remember it being an issue...maybe it's a CC issue and I thought it was fixed but me going EC fixed it?

[19/09/09][19:27:33] [Gouge]: well that's all i hve
[19/09/09][19:27:35] [Gouge]: thangs again
[19/09/09][19:27:39] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19/09/09][19:27:43] [Mesanna]: have a good evening
[19/09/09][19:27:47] [Gouge]: yeu yah 2



[19/09/09][19:27:52] [Sara Dale]: hello
[19/09/09][19:27:54] [Mesanna]: Greetings
[19/09/09][19:27:56] [Sara Dale]: *Smiles*
[19/09/09][19:28:02] [Sara Dale]: 2 things
[19/09/09][19:28:05] [Mesanna]: kk
[19/09/09][19:28:16] [Sara Dale]: if a person from vvv happens to whack me
[19/09/09][19:28:20] [Sara Dale]: I turn orange
[19/09/09][19:28:27] [Sara Dale]: but I cant tell if I am orange
[19/09/09][19:28:34] [Sara Dale]: any way to fix tha
[19/09/09][19:28:37] [Sara Dale]: that
[19/09/09][19:28:46] [<13154234>Carrick McGee]: great point thanks sara dale
[19/09/09][19:28:52] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: 1st time I ever heard about that honestly...
[19/09/09][19:28:57] [<14776737>Gouge]: that's happedn to me several times

[19/09/09][19:28:58] [Mesanna]: totally makes sense
[19/09/09][19:29:03] [Sara Dale]: it does
[19/09/09][19:29:06] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: I only see people turn orange when they attack me
[19/09/09][19:29:09] [Sara Dale]: I am running around orange
[19/09/09][19:29:13] [Sara Dale]: and dont know
[19/09/09][19:29:25] [<13154234>Carrick McGee]: 100% true
[19/09/09][19:29:25] [<14776737>Gouge]: she's correct, you can't tell
[19/09/09][19:29:34] [<17169017>Xyience]: Your Orange cuz you made urself that way
[19/09/09][19:29:35] [<15770190>Malloc]: add a little color spot on the paper doll red, blue, orange
[19/09/09][19:29:47] [<11719731>Desdemona Lyre]: It happened to me. I was lucky someone warned me about it before I just got killed for nothing

[19/09/09][19:29:51] [Mesanna]: it should work except if it is a murderer
[19/09/09][19:29:58] [Sara Dale]: it would be
[19/09/09][19:29:59] [Mesanna]: then red trumps orange
[19/09/09][19:30:05] [Mesanna]: thats why then
[19/09/09][19:30:08] [Sara Dale]: but I cant tell
[19/09/09][19:30:17] [Sara Dale]: I dont turn red when murdered
[19/09/09][19:30:28] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: well I'm not debating that people don'T realize they're orange because they simply don't see it but I never heard that you get flagged orange when you're blue and a VvV player attacks you
[19/09/09][19:30:32] [Sara Dale]: but if a vvv person kills me I would be orange
[19/09/09][19:30:34] [Sara Dale]: but cant tell
[19/09/09][19:30:37] [<14776737>Gouge]: her point is that we can't tell for ourselves that we've turned orange
[19/09/09][19:30:39] [Mesanna]: we can look into maybe a buff icon so you know
[19/09/09][19:30:40] [<17169017>Xyience]: correct
[19/09/09][19:30:47] [Sara Dale]: great
[19/09/09][19:30:51] [Sara Dale]: 2nd thing
[19/09/09][19:30:52] [<16589292>Half-Life]: aye she brings up a great point
[19/09/09][19:30:54] [<13154234>Carrick McGee]: that would be fantastic...thanks Mesanna

[19/09/09][19:30:56] [Mesanna]: good point
[19/09/09][19:31:00] [Sara Dale]: I know its a wee bit early
[19/09/09][19:31:09] [<16589292>Half-Life]: i've gone stat and had no idea i was orange
[19/09/09][19:31:18] [<17169017>Xyience]: might as well put it in with he VvV arties as as package deal

[19/09/09][19:31:19] [Sara Dale]: are there plans in the working for a 25th ann meet and greet?
[19/09/09][19:31:36] [<15770190>Malloc]: negative
[19/09/09][19:31:38] [Mesanna]: lol not yet but we totally should have one
[19/09/09][19:31:45] [Sara Dale]: we should
[19/09/09][19:31:49] [Mesanna]: I have a few under my belt now they are getting easier to do
[19/09/09][19:31:55] [Sara Dale]: Same place would be nice
[19/09/09][19:31:57] [Sara Dale]: good
[19/09/09][19:32:07] [Sara Dale]: that is all I have
[19/09/09][19:32:08] [<14776737>Gouge]: I vote for RENO
[19/09/09][19:32:08] [<17169017>Xyience]: your times comming when detect is fixed

[19/09/09][19:32:11] [Sara Dale]: you have a good night
[19/09/09][19:32:12] [<13643986>Tanager]: they are nice events ;)
[19/09/09][19:32:13] [Sara Dale]: *Waves*
[19/09/09][19:32:14] [Sara Dale]: *Waves*
[19/09/09][19:32:15] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19/09/09][19:32:21] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: so outside o' artists this is all the UO paid staff left?



[19/09/09][19:32:28] [Kikyo-]: hi
[19/09/09][19:32:30] [<14776737>Gouge]: yep
[19/09/09][19:32:34] [<15770190>Malloc]: lol i have died enought without it being fixed ;-) your team seems to over come the deficiency

[19/09/09][19:32:36] [Mesanna]: hi
[19/09/09][19:32:47] [Kikyo-]: I think it would be fun to activate treasures of tokuno for 1 month a year or something
[19/09/09][19:32:56] [Kikyo-]: it's amazing content that's already written, and was SUPER FUN on siege way back then due to the danger
[19/09/09][19:33:00] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: here here
[19/09/09][19:33:02] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: hahahaha

[19/09/09][19:33:09] [Kikyo-]: Plus, it would get more loot in the rotation
[19/09/09][19:33:12] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: activate tok arties hahahaha
[19/09/09][19:33:26] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: he's not wrong...
[19/09/09][19:33:28] [<15770190>Malloc]: that seems to be asked every year

[19/09/09][19:33:28] [Kikyo-]: everything else i wanted to talk about was touched on already
[19/09/09][19:33:29] [Kikyo-]: but
[19/09/09][19:33:30] [Kikyo-]: i mean
[19/09/09][19:33:34] [<13154234>Carrick McGee]: lots of us have enough arties stashed away
[19/09/09][19:33:39] [Kikyo-]: IF you consider treasures of tokuno
[19/09/09][19:33:40] [<17169017>Xyience]: what is everyone so afraid of, all you do is stealth around
[19/09/09][19:33:43] [<13643986>Tanager]: i would love to see all the Treasures of rotated out once a year...
[19/09/09][19:33:44] [<15770190>Malloc]: i did it on chessy it was fun... siege would be... interesting :)

[19/09/09][19:33:44] [Mesanna]: yes but now everything is out of date
[19/09/09][19:33:47] [Kikyo-]: I think doing it in a limited, scheduled manner is nice
[19/09/09][19:33:48] [Kikyo-]: ahhh
[19/09/09][19:33:50] [Kikyo-]: i disagree
[19/09/09][19:33:52] [Kikyo-]: i'd use an RBC
[19/09/09][19:33:53] [Kikyo-]: or the dyes
[19/09/09][19:33:57] [Kikyo-]: or the swords of prosp
[19/09/09][19:34:07] [Mesanna]: we can look into this
[19/09/09][19:34:07] [Kikyo-]: maybe even consider reactivating with new content
[19/09/09][19:34:11] [Kikyo-]: in the future
[19/09/09][19:34:15] [Kikyo-]: with upgradable arties
[19/09/09][19:34:15] [<14776737>Gouge]: Swords of Pros are great
[19/09/09][19:34:20] [Mesanna]: we do use that system alot
[19/09/09][19:34:22] [Kikyo-]: like you've done with doom
[19/09/09][19:34:26] [Kikyo-]: but anyways
[19/09/09][19:34:29] [Mesanna]: because you guys really like it so much
[19/09/09][19:34:29] [Kikyo-]: i loved samurai empire
[19/09/09][19:34:33] [Kikyo-]: and on siege
[19/09/09][19:34:35] [Kikyo-]: ... oh man
[19/09/09][19:34:36] [Kikyo-]: on SIEGE
[19/09/09][19:34:37] [Kikyo-]: ITS SO GOOD
[19/09/09][19:34:38] [<15770190>Malloc]: people love dyes
[19/09/09][19:34:39] [Mesanna]: you get to do it in your own time
[19/09/09][19:34:40] [Kikyo-]: k im done
[19/09/09][19:34:41] [Mesanna]: we get it
[19/09/09][19:34:42] [Kikyo-]: thanks :)
[19/09/09][19:34:48] [Mesanna]: welcome
[19/09/09][19:34:52] [Kikyo-]: kk
[19/09/09][19:34:54] [Kikyo-]: thats all
[19/09/09][19:34:54] [Kikyo-]: ttyl
[19/09/09][19:34:57] [<14776737>Gouge]: he's on crack
[19/09/09][19:35:00] [Mesanna]: have a great evening'
[19/09/09][19:35:02] [<13643986>Tanager]: i think they sell the dyes in the store tho... kinda shoot themselves in the foot if they dropped into ppls packs



[19/09/09][19:35:09] [Mesanna]: hi
[19/09/09][19:35:12] [<15770190>Malloc]: actually he's comment was decent
[19/09/09][19:35:19] [<15770190>Malloc]: his
[19/09/09][19:35:24] [Carrick McGee]: hello
[19/09/09][19:35:31] [Carrick McGee]: One quick question
[19/09/09][19:35:36] [Mesanna]: ok
[19/09/09][19:35:42] [Carrick McGee]: What are your ideas for the idoc changes?
[19/09/09][19:35:48] [Mesanna]: oh oh oh
[19/09/09][19:35:52] [Mesanna]: so many
[19/09/09][19:35:56] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: oh yeah, leave Siege idocs alone!!!
[19/09/09][19:36:00] [Carrick McGee]: "listening"
[19/09/09][19:36:02] [Mesanna]: I will be making a post very soon on the boards
[19/09/09][19:36:04] [<15770190>Malloc]: no more 15 hours
[19/09/09][19:36:09] [Mesanna]: with several ideas
[19/09/09][19:36:16] [<15770190>Malloc]: and vary the time some
[19/09/09][19:36:16] [Carrick McGee]: fantastic...thanks so much
[19/09/09][19:36:18] [<10084971>Liam]: cant wait
[19/09/09][19:36:19] [Mesanna]: that we well open for dicussion
[19/09/09][19:36:24] [Mesanna]: so please check it out
[19/09/09][19:36:32] [Mesanna]: and yes we do know that something needs to be done
[19/09/09][19:36:39] [Mesanna]: but we only want to make one more change
[19/09/09][19:36:42] [Mesanna]: a good one!!



[19/09/09][19:36:50] [Mesanna]: Greetings
[19/09/09][19:36:59] [Half-Life]: hello
[19/09/09][19:37:13] [Half-Life]: a request from my gm
[19/09/09][19:37:26] [Half-Life]: with the upcoming closure of blackthorn dungeon
[19/09/09][19:37:44] [Half-Life]: would it be possible to move the gold elemental to another area
[19/09/09][19:37:53] [Half-Life]: we use him for our fall festival
[19/09/09][19:37:55] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: hehe
[19/09/09][19:38:09] [<13643986>Tanager]: mmmm iiiingots
[19/09/09][19:38:15] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: think that's the winter festival
[19/09/09][19:38:24] [<13643986>Tanager]: yes, for artisan festival
[19/09/09][19:38:24] [<15770190>Malloc]: make bo dress in all gold and try to get thim to drop his loot... problem solved
[19/09/09][19:38:28] [<13643986>Tanager]: bods bods an more bods
[19/09/09][19:38:35] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: hahahahhahaha
[19/09/09][19:38:48] [<15770190>Malloc]: he's probably enjoy the attention
[19/09/09][19:38:52] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: odg @ Malloc

[19/09/09][19:39:00] [Mesanna]: we can try to fix them in a good spot
[19/09/09][19:39:08] [Half-Life]: great thanks
[19/09/09][19:39:10] [<13643986>Tanager]: i second idea to have elementals!
[19/09/09][19:39:13] [Mesanna]: welcome
[19/09/09][19:39:23] [Half-Life]: i have been enjoying the castle contests
[19/09/09][19:39:31] [Mesanna]: good =)
[19/09/09][19:39:43] [Half-Life]: i used to be a faction player and advocate once upon a time
[19/09/09][19:39:47] [<14776737>Gouge]: ask if they can pick more than one each this time?
[19/09/09][19:39:59] [Half-Life]: when you work on your next revamp for vvv
[19/09/09][19:40:23] [Half-Life]: would you consider using your new castle designs for player buildable and attackable bases
[19/09/09][19:40:31] [Half-Life]: much like faction bases of old
[19/09/09][19:40:54] [Half-Life]: more of a long term with list for me :)
[19/09/09][19:40:55] [Mesanna]: you mean with attackabe walls?
[19/09/09][19:40:58] [Half-Life]: aye
[19/09/09][19:41:05] [Mesanna]: *hrm*
[19/09/09][19:41:09] [Mesanna]: interesting idea
[19/09/09][19:41:13] [Half-Life]: you added the turrets which i thought was great
[19/09/09][19:41:14] [<14776737>Gouge]: ew, UO meets SrongHold
[19/09/09][19:41:15] [<14776737>Gouge]: hehe

[19/09/09][19:41:31] [Mesanna]: King of the Castle
[19/09/09][19:41:41] [Half-Life]: :)
[19/09/09][19:41:57] [Mesanna]: its a good idea
[19/09/09][19:41:58] [Half-Life]: thanks for your consideration that was all i had :)
[19/09/09][19:42:03] [Mesanna]: would make for fun adventures
[19/09/09][19:42:09] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19/09/09][19:42:16] [Half-Life]: yes it would and i think bring some life back to the system :)
[19/09/09][19:42:23] [Half-Life]: thanks for all you do
[19/09/09][19:42:29] [Mesanna]: thank you



[19/09/09][19:42:38] [Mesanna]: thats everyone
[19/09/09][19:42:47] [Mesanna]: thank you for having us Siege
[19/09/09][19:42:48] [Kyronix ]: Thanks for attending and such great questions!
[19/09/09][19:42:50] [Bleak]: Thanks for coming out everyone
[19/09/09][19:42:52] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: thank you for popping up here
[19/09/09][19:43:01] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: kk make wit the pressies gods
[19/09/09][19:43:06] [<10084971>Liam]: thanks for letting us ask questions,
[19/09/09][19:43:10] [Mesanna]: Keep an eye on the forums for some upcoming ideas
[19/09/09][19:43:12] [<11719731>Desdemona Lyre]: Thank you Messana'
[19/09/09][19:43:14] [<13643986>Tanager]: ty Devs! Keep on UOing!
[19/09/09][19:43:15] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: special thanks from mail spelled backwards
[19/09/09][19:43:17] [Mesanna]: feedback is always welcome
[19/09/09][19:43:20] [Mesanna]: Night all
 

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Can I get the Cliffs notes version. To much going on in the chat.
 

Tanager

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Sorry, but it took me over 2 hours to fish the text out of my chatlog and clean it up into something remotely readable. However, I only left in GC chatter that more or less pertained to the meeting in some way... though not always at the time it was being said.
 

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Malloc, you're such a walnut.

Go back to your senior living quarters. You're time has passed
 

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Thank you, Tanager.
 

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[19/09/09][19:04:37] [Max Blackoak]: with the recent addition to the classic client you added an auto open corpses feature
[19/09/09][19:04:49] [Max Blackoak]: could you add this feature to the enhanced client as well?
[19/09/09][19:05:02] [Bleak]: We can look into adding this to the EC
[19/09/09][19:05:12] [Max Blackoak]: nice
[19/09/09][19:05:20] [Max Blackoak]: I think people would love that
Wasn't that in a newsletter like a year ago already? Who could have thought that it would just be some lip service :rolleyes: Still curious for which "friend" they did this feature that works only CC and only melee.
 

Blargety

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I see a whole lot of crying about a system that has literally zero impact on the players crying about it. They were also the ones who used dozens of alt accounts to push votes into their own favor. Of course, those same players are wishing and hoping for stealth to stay broken so they can continue to farm like a bunch of trammelites. When the PKs who rock stealth are saying that stealth needs another look, there's a good chance that it needs another look. Also the VvV arties have zero impact on anything that certain players do, if they didn't run around in simple LRC suits, they wouldn't die so easily every single time they see another player, but alas, loot on Siege Perilous is only good for decorating the floor of certain individual's castle floor. It is to be looked at like pixelated crack, not as a resource that can be used to help further obtain more and better equipment.
 

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lol how do people not understand how tracking arrows work yet??? The arrow is spot on according to where your character is in relation to the person your tracking. The arrow itself doesn't have to be directly on the person your tracking, its there to point your character to the exact tile they are on. Try testing something before complaining about it. Good lord, stop wasting the devs times which needs to be on more important things.
 

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I don't know about tracking people, but when tracking ships, the CC is spot on.
It may lead you to a player ship, but it does its job.
On Tuesday I tried to track ships in EC & they were pointing away and I couldn't find a single ship...
It was very wacky
 

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lol how do people not understand how tracking arrows work yet??? The arrow is spot on according to where your character is in relation to the person your tracking. The arrow itself doesn't have to be directly on the person your tracking, its there to point your character to the exact tile they are on. ….
QFT! Been arguing with people about this for years. Tracking arrow works fine.
 

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Funny how it is always one guild that is opposed to anything that would improve the quality of PvP and make Siege more challenging. I am not a PvP by any measure but believe VvV arties need to be on Siege and Stealth without the Counter stealth skill working is just lame. A Cow can reveal me passively but a gm detect hidden player can't..... Yeah that makes stealth way over powered on Siege. Most of ones in that guild I see out and about wear junk that is worse than the garbage I wear....... so even if they do manage to get whacked, it is not like they are going to lose anything because I wouldn't even bother picking their junk up.
 
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