Transcript of the Dev Meet and Greet on Siege Perilous Sept 9, 2019. Edited to remove the farspeaker echo, unrelated text from General Chat, and macro spell-spam as people typed. Italics are people speaking from General Chat channel because we are all squelched in the meeting room.
Instead of forming a line, there was a stone podium instructing people to double click:
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[19/09/09][18:53:44] [<8988222>Mesanna]: Meet and Greet in Serpents Hold starting in 7 minutes
[19/09/09][18:58:19] [Kyronix ]: test
[19/09/09][18:58:35] [Mesanna]: test
[19/09/09][18:59:30] [Mesanna]: shall we begin?
[19/09/09][19:00:24] [<10084971>Liam]: can you see whta i say?
[19/09/09][19:00:29] [Liam]: hello
[19/09/09][19:00:31] [Mesanna]: sorry about that
[19/09/09][19:00:31] [<16503364>Roy Batty]: I want the vvv arties
[19/09/09][19:00:34] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: no
[19/09/09][19:00:35] [Mesanna]: hi
[19/09/09][19:00:40] [Kyronix ]: Greetings!
[19/09/09][19:00:43] [Liam]: i just wanted to say that my rain problem is fixed thanks so much
[19/09/09][19:00:52] [Mesanna]: great
[19/09/09][19:01:05] [Liam]: and i asked for plates but i found out we can dye the ones we make
[19/09/09][19:01:15] [Mesanna]: yes you can
[19/09/09][19:01:17] [Liam]: so im very happy with those
[19/09/09][19:01:23] [Liam]: i didnt know that
[19/09/09][19:01:23] [Mesanna]: wonderful
[19/09/09][19:01:31] [Liam]: thanks for all you guys do
[19/09/09][19:01:34] [Mesanna]: ahh see we can learn something new everyday
[19/09/09][19:01:38] [Liam]: yes
[19/09/09][19:01:40] [Mesanna]: You are most welcome
[19/09/09][19:01:50] [Liam]: thats is all enjoy
[19/09/09][19:01:54] [Mesanna]: you also
[19/09/09][19:01:57] [Mesanna]: see the tile
[19/09/09][19:01:59] [Mesanna]: sweet
[19/09/09][19:02:08] [Mesanna]: hi
[19/09/09][19:02:19] [Tanager]: Hello!
(Deleted the rest cuz I just wanted to say thank you buuuuuut, me being me, somehow got confused, distracted, and flustered by not being able to turn on a single tile to face the dev team for a polite bow before remembering it's an option setting in EC. Let's just pretend it didn't happen.)
[19/09/09][19:04:03] [Mesanna]: Hi Max
[19/09/09][19:04:04] [Max Blackoak]: Hello everyone
[19/09/09][19:04:19] [Max Blackoak]: I'll start with a client question
[19/09/09][19:04:28] [Mesanna]: k
[19/09/09][19:04:37] [Max Blackoak]: with the recent addition to the classic client you added an auto open corpses feature
[19/09/09][19:04:49] [Max Blackoak]: could you add this feature to the enhanced client as well?
[19/09/09][19:05:02] [Bleak]: We can look into adding this to the EC
[19/09/09][19:05:12] [Max Blackoak]: nice
[19/09/09][19:05:20] [Max Blackoak]: I think people would love that
[19/09/09][19:05:29] [Max Blackoak]: ok second question
[19/09/09][19:05:44] [Max Blackoak]: the VvV gump that pops up in VvV towns during fights
[19/09/09][19:06:02] [Max Blackoak]: is rather large and blocks a way too big area on my screen in EC
[19/09/09][19:06:04] [Bleak]: It is in our backlog to add a toggle
[19/09/09][19:06:09] [Kyronix ]: *nods*
[19/09/09][19:06:17] [Max Blackoak]: could you make it scaleable or minimizeable?
[19/09/09][19:06:19] [Max Blackoak]: ok
[19/09/09][19:06:25] [Max Blackoak]: then my third question
[19/09/09][19:06:45] [Max Blackoak]: I found conflicting information on the 5 hci bonus gargoyles get
[19/09/09][19:07:03] [Max Blackoak]: some sources say youcan still get to a combined 50 hci with that
[19/09/09][19:07:24] [Max Blackoak]: others say hci is hard capped at 45 and gargoyles just have a free 5 hci to make it easier to reach 45 hci
[19/09/09][19:07:28] [Max Blackoak]: which is true?
[19/09/09][19:07:29] [Bleak]: If you point out which sources say that we will look into it
[19/09/09][19:07:46] [Max Blackoak]: uoguide.com says 50 hci is no longer possible
[19/09/09][19:07:59] [Max Blackoak]: the player wiki on uo.com has nothing about this at all
[19/09/09][19:08:02] [Max Blackoak]: which surprised me
[19/09/09][19:08:22] [Max Blackoak]: and then people on stratics said either the one or the other
[19/09/09][19:08:23] [Max Blackoak]: so...
[19/09/09][19:08:37] [Bleak]: We will make sure to update the player wiki with the correct info
[19/09/09][19:08:55] [Max Blackoak]: could you say here which is correct?
[19/09/09][19:09:48] [Mesanna]: one sec
[19/09/09][19:09:57] [Mesanna]: looking up something
[19/09/09][19:10:03] [Max Blackoak]: * nods*
[19/09/09][19:10:23] [Bleak]: to my knowledge gargs can no longer go over cap
[19/09/09][19:10:33] [Max Blackoak]: ok thank you
[19/09/09][19:10:44] [Max Blackoak]: well that's it for me
[19/09/09][19:10:49] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19/09/09][19:10:57] [Mesanna]: have a great evening
[19/09/09][19:11:00] [Max Blackoak]: thanks a lot and please reconsider allowing VvV artifacts on Siege =)
[19/09/09][19:11:10] [Max Blackoak]: good night
[19/09/09][19:11:15] [Mesanna]: night
[19/09/09][19:11:26] [Mesanna]: Greetings
[19/09/09][19:11:34] [Xyience]: greatings
[19/09/09][19:11:39] [Xyience]:
[19/09/09][19:11:43] [Xyience]: 2 easy ones
[19/09/09][19:11:49] [Mesanna]: k
[19/09/09][19:12:03] [Xyience]: do you have a plan for fix tracking for the curser is correct
[19/09/09][19:12:13] [Xyience]: it is off miles
[19/09/09][19:12:17] [<15770190>Malloc]: how many times do the vvv arties have to be voted down
[19/09/09][19:12:30] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: to many
[19/09/09][19:12:31] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: however many times it takes to get them added, i suppose
[19/09/09][19:12:33] [<16503364>Roy Batty]: we want them maloc
[19/09/09][19:12:37] [<15770190>Malloc]: and I don't
[19/09/09][19:12:42] [<15770190>Malloc]: and others don
[19/09/09][19:12:42] [Mesanna]: the arrow is not accurate?
[19/09/09][19:12:46] [Xyience]: like ill deal with him in a minute
[19/09/09][19:12:47] [<15770190>Malloc]: don't
[19/09/09][19:12:53] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: no
[19/09/09][19:12:55] [<15770190>Malloc]: you lost the last time so be done with it
[19/09/09][19:12:55] [Xyience]: no its about 6-7 tiles off
[19/09/09][19:13:01] [Kyronix ]: Using the skill correct?
[19/09/09][19:13:03] [Xyience]: yes
[19/09/09][19:13:05] [Mesanna]: not ship tracking right
[19/09/09][19:13:06] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: some times is some times not
[19/09/09][19:13:10] [Xyience]: just on land
[19/09/09][19:13:11] [Mesanna]: actual tracking?
[19/09/09][19:13:12] [<14776737>Gouge]: lol, it's never been accurate
[19/09/09][19:13:12] [Xyience]: for stealthers
[19/09/09][19:13:13] [Mesanna]: kk
[19/09/09][19:13:15] [Xyience]: yes
[19/09/09][19:13:16] [Xyience]: the skill
[19/09/09][19:13:28] [Xyience]: easyly off 6-7
[19/09/09][19:13:46] [Xyience]: can u look into that
[19/09/09][19:13:48] [Xyience]: and also
[19/09/09][19:13:49] [Mesanna]: is it one directional or in general
[19/09/09][19:13:55] [Xyience]: yes above
[19/09/09][19:13:58] [Xyience]: NW
[19/09/09][19:14:17] [Xyience]: NW above\
[19/09/09][19:14:26] [Mesanna]: hrm we will check into this
[19/09/09][19:14:30] [Xyience]: please do
[19/09/09][19:14:31] [Xyience]: and also
[19/09/09][19:14:35] [Mesanna]: *nods*
[19/09/09][19:14:38] [Xyience]: while we talking about skills
[19/09/09][19:14:53] [Xyience]: when can detect hiding be fixed
[19/09/09][19:15:07] [Xyience]: the skill is almost worthless here
[19/09/09][19:15:15] [Xyience]: on a place where its needed the most
[19/09/09][19:15:30] [Mesanna]: Can I ask you how you use the skill the most?
[19/09/09][19:15:39] [<15770190>Malloc]: to kill people
[19/09/09][19:15:46] [Xyience]: by targeting
[19/09/09][19:15:50] [Xyience]: with the skill
[19/09/09][19:15:55] [Xyience]: and pasivly never workls
[19/09/09][19:16:21] [Xyience]: i use the skill directly on people and still wont reveal
[19/09/09][19:16:30] [Xyience]: well
[19/09/09][19:16:39] [Mesanna]: I used to use the skill on myself in my house
[19/09/09][19:16:42] [Xyience]: only directly on it
[19/09/09][19:16:43] [Mesanna]: to detect anyone
[19/09/09][19:16:59] [Mesanna]: we will also look into this
[19/09/09][19:17:12] [Mesanna]: any other info you might have to reproduce what you are seeing please email me
[19/09/09][19:17:17] [Xyience]: teh passive detect is totally broken
[19/09/09][19:17:39] [Mesanna]: *nods*
[19/09/09][19:17:45] [Xyience]: other than that
[19/09/09][19:17:50] [Xyience]: we need VvV arties
[19/09/09][19:17:53] [Xyience]: ")
[19/09/09][19:17:56] [<16503364>Roy Batty]: yeah!
[19/09/09][19:17:56] [Xyience]: unblessable
[19/09/09][19:18:06] [Xyience]: a reason to do towns
[19/09/09][19:18:19] [<15770190>Malloc]: no we do not
[19/09/09][19:18:24] [<15770190>Malloc]: they do just fine killin
[19/09/09][19:18:29] [Xyience]: any thaughts on that still?
[19/09/09][19:18:32] [Mesanna]: you are not talking about it working on that character correct?
[19/09/09][19:18:45] [Xyience]: the detect?
[19/09/09][19:18:49] [Mesanna]: yes
[19/09/09][19:18:51] [<15770190>Malloc]: you lose the vote then every year you try to bring it back up
[19/09/09][19:18:59] [Xyience]: any chars ive spoke with with gm also
[19/09/09][19:19:05] [<13643986>Tanager]: When you stealth past a monster and get revealed passivly is what they mean. It does not work when players pass each other
[19/09/09][19:19:12] [Xyience]: but yes mine also
[19/09/09][19:19:24] [<13643986>Tanager]: only thru each other, but that is not the same
[19/09/09][19:19:27] [Mesanna]: ok we will add it to our list
[19/09/09][19:19:40] [Xyience]: sounds good
[19/09/09][19:19:41] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: they arent
[19/09/09][19:19:42] [Xyience]: ty
[19/09/09][19:19:44] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19/09/09][19:19:48] [Mesanna]: bye
[19/09/09][19:19:56] [Mesanna]: good evening
[19/09/09][19:19:58] [Gouge]: hail
[19/09/09][19:20:10] [<13643986>Tanager]: i think there is some confusion as to which kind of detect he is talking about is all...
[19/09/09][19:20:21] [Gouge]: there's poll on the uoforums Siege, have ya;ll seen it?
[19/09/09][19:20:29] [<15770190>Malloc]: 1) they want to use the skill to allow them to attack hidden people
[19/09/09][19:20:39] [Mesanna]: I have not looked in a few days
[19/09/09][19:20:41] [<15770190>Malloc]: 2) they want people to be revealed when they pass by them
[19/09/09][19:20:42] [Gouge]: various issues were polled
[19/09/09][19:20:50] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: ^
[19/09/09][19:20:54] [Gouge]: was posted origianlly 6 months ago or so
[19/09/09][19:21:05] [<13643986>Tanager]: i know but i think the Devs are confused...
[19/09/09][19:21:10] [<13643986>Tanager]: i just shut up *sigh*
[19/09/09][19:21:11] [Gouge]: anyways, lots of issues are closele divided
[19/09/09][19:21:15] [<17169017>Xyience]: just want the skill to work correctly
[19/09/09][19:21:22] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: stealthers have it too easy on siege. if they don't want to build it for DS damage, they just get bare min for no-fail
[19/09/09][19:21:27] [Gouge]: vvv arties, 2nds houses, more blessed, etc\
[19/09/09][19:21:29] [<15770190>Malloc]: as you want it to work
[19/09/09][19:21:41] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: stealth on this server is overpowered and needs a check in some form
[19/09/09][19:21:43] [Mesanna]: you guys already have 2nd houses
[19/09/09][19:21:43] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: it's pretty obvious
[19/09/09][19:21:43] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: i can wal by with 100 detect and it doesn't work
[19/09/09][19:21:51] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: walk*
[19/09/09][19:21:53] [<15770190>Malloc]: says the player who is only here af week weeks all year
[19/09/09][19:21:55] [Gouge]: can you all just make some decisions and changes and see how things work out?
[19/09/09][19:22:04] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: ?
[19/09/09][19:22:09] [Gouge]: works great, then great, if not then revert
[19/09/09][19:22:14] [<15770190>Malloc]: you don't play here all the time... you come and go like the wind
[19/09/09][19:22:18] [Mesanna]: lol no reverts
[19/09/09][19:22:23] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: so
[19/09/09][19:22:26] [Mesanna]: that is not a good practice
[19/09/09][19:22:29] [Mesanna]: and refuse to do that
[19/09/09][19:22:33] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: i invest a lot of time here you don't know about
[19/09/09][19:22:34] [Gouge]: i mean there' s never gonna be a 100% consensus on most issues
[19/09/09][19:22:35] [<13643986>Tanager]: reverts never work out well
[19/09/09][19:22:45] [<15770190>Malloc]: welcome to siege then
[19/09/09][19:22:49] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: I play here full time and I hate to admit that stealth is absolutely overpowerd here without passive detect
[19/09/09][19:23:00] [Kyronix ]: Just as a note, its helpful if you tag us with an @ on the forums so we get a note to see something
[19/09/09][19:23:01] [Mesanna]: I know this but we are not going to make odd changes
[19/09/09][19:23:03] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: and I use it myself....
[19/09/09][19:23:04] [Mesanna]: that everyone hates
[19/09/09][19:23:07] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: diddo
[19/09/09][19:23:07] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: leapin at 100%s when they ain't even got 50% hehe
[19/09/09][19:23:16] [Gouge]: what i mean by 2nd houses is Siege is a trailer park of empty plots
[19/09/09][19:23:32] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: people have been complaining about passive detect for as long as i've played here.
[19/09/09][19:23:46] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: its always been a problem
[19/09/09][19:23:50] [Gouge]: well i guess my ? is are there changes in store for Siege?
[19/09/09][19:23:50] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: thanks
[19/09/09][19:23:58] [<15770190>Malloc]: or working as it was supposed too
[19/09/09][19:24:16] [Mesanna]: none that are specific to siege at this time
[19/09/09][19:24:16] [Gouge]: it's been a while since Siege had some dev love
[19/09/09][19:24:21] [<13643986>Tanager]: you guys seem to find me pretty well despite stealth lol
[19/09/09][19:24:29] [Gouge]: okie dokie
[19/09/09][19:24:33] [Gouge]: thx
[19/09/09][19:24:37] [Mesanna]: please understand this
[19/09/09][19:24:40] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: tracking and spellweaving (tstorm) is a good way to reveal
[19/09/09][19:24:44] [Mesanna]: except for the artist this is the UO team
[19/09/09][19:24:51] [<17169017>Xyience]: im sending max over to "pay the rent" at mesanna's house and convince her... dont fail us Max
[19/09/09][19:24:52] [Gouge]: i know
[19/09/09][19:24:56] [Mesanna]: we have to pick and choose carefully
[19/09/09][19:25:08] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: but the tracking arrow is way off on this shard
[19/09/09][19:25:12] [Mesanna]: when we do something we like it to effect all shards
[19/09/09][19:25:21] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: so its still sorta handicapped
[19/09/09][19:25:21] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: hang on
[19/09/09][19:25:23] [<15770190>Malloc]: tracking arrow being off is defeinately a bug
[19/09/09][19:25:24] [<16503364>Roy Batty]: ugh
[19/09/09][19:25:24] [<17169017>Xyience]: has been along time
[19/09/09][19:25:24] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: actually that was fixed some time ago Crunch
[19/09/09][19:25:25] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: then why make this shard an exception at all?
[19/09/09][19:25:26] [<13643986>Tanager]: is it way off in a consistant manner?
[19/09/09][19:25:28] [Gouge]: ok, well thx. Very nice Talisman BTw.
[19/09/09][19:25:31] [Mesanna]: as much as we would love to have the time and manpower we just don't
[19/09/09][19:25:36] [Mesanna]: lol thanks
[19/09/09][19:25:40] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: I noticed it big time in luna
[19/09/09][19:25:46] [Mesanna]: helps with setting up events for testing the mob
[19/09/09][19:25:48] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: it was legitimately 6 tiles NW of the person I had tracked
[19/09/09][19:25:58] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: hmm has been working fine for me ever since the fix...
[19/09/09][19:25:59] [Mesanna]: my little one hit wonder =P
[19/09/09][19:26:03] [Gouge]: so
[19/09/09][19:26:07] [Gouge]: if i may ask one more
[19/09/09][19:26:08] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: ah when was that fixed?
[19/09/09][19:26:11] [Gouge]: from the poll
[19/09/09][19:26:16] [Gouge]: siege blessings
[19/09/09][19:26:26] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: this char is elf so I haven't been able to play with it much
[19/09/09][19:26:28] [Gouge]: any poossiblilty of it being increased to more than 1
[19/09/09][19:26:45] [Mesanna]: doesn't that go against the Siege ruleset
[19/09/09][19:26:47] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: devs didn't seem to be aware that there was a fix when Xyience was talking about it
[19/09/09][19:26:48] [Mesanna]: for the most part
[19/09/09][19:26:55] [Mesanna]: Siege is the wild west
[19/09/09][19:26:59] [Gouge]: Seige ruleset is 20 yrs old
[19/09/09][19:27:04] [Mesanna]: yes it is
[19/09/09][19:27:12] [Gouge]: from before all the item based stuff we have now
[19/09/09][19:27:14] [<9395548>Godo Liadon]: "siege is the wildwest" "WE CAN'T HANDLE WILD WEST VVV ARTIES BLAAAAGGGHHH"
[19/09/09][19:27:24] [<16503364>Roy Batty]: laughs
[19/09/09][19:27:27] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: yeah I am now doubting myself...I clearly remember it being an issue...maybe it's a CC issue and I thought it was fixed but me going EC fixed it?
[19/09/09][19:27:33] [Gouge]: well that's all i hve
[19/09/09][19:27:35] [Gouge]: thangs again
[19/09/09][19:27:39] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19/09/09][19:27:43] [Mesanna]: have a good evening
[19/09/09][19:27:47] [Gouge]: yeu yah 2
[19/09/09][19:27:52] [Sara Dale]: hello
[19/09/09][19:27:54] [Mesanna]: Greetings
[19/09/09][19:27:56] [Sara Dale]: *Smiles*
[19/09/09][19:28:02] [Sara Dale]: 2 things
[19/09/09][19:28:05] [Mesanna]: kk
[19/09/09][19:28:16] [Sara Dale]: if a person from vvv happens to whack me
[19/09/09][19:28:20] [Sara Dale]: I turn orange
[19/09/09][19:28:27] [Sara Dale]: but I cant tell if I am orange
[19/09/09][19:28:34] [Sara Dale]: any way to fix tha
[19/09/09][19:28:37] [Sara Dale]: that
[19/09/09][19:28:46] [<13154234>Carrick McGee]: great point thanks sara dale
[19/09/09][19:28:52] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: 1st time I ever heard about that honestly...
[19/09/09][19:28:57] [<14776737>Gouge]: that's happedn to me several times
[19/09/09][19:28:58] [Mesanna]: totally makes sense
[19/09/09][19:29:03] [Sara Dale]: it does
[19/09/09][19:29:06] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: I only see people turn orange when they attack me
[19/09/09][19:29:09] [Sara Dale]: I am running around orange
[19/09/09][19:29:13] [Sara Dale]: and dont know
[19/09/09][19:29:25] [<13154234>Carrick McGee]: 100% true
[19/09/09][19:29:25] [<14776737>Gouge]: she's correct, you can't tell
[19/09/09][19:29:34] [<17169017>Xyience]: Your Orange cuz you made urself that way
[19/09/09][19:29:35] [<15770190>Malloc]: add a little color spot on the paper doll red, blue, orange
[19/09/09][19:29:47] [<11719731>Desdemona Lyre]: It happened to me. I was lucky someone warned me about it before I just got killed for nothing
[19/09/09][19:29:51] [Mesanna]: it should work except if it is a murderer
[19/09/09][19:29:58] [Sara Dale]: it would be
[19/09/09][19:29:59] [Mesanna]: then red trumps orange
[19/09/09][19:30:05] [Mesanna]: thats why then
[19/09/09][19:30:08] [Sara Dale]: but I cant tell
[19/09/09][19:30:17] [Sara Dale]: I dont turn red when murdered
[19/09/09][19:30:28] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: well I'm not debating that people don'T realize they're orange because they simply don't see it but I never heard that you get flagged orange when you're blue and a VvV player attacks you
[19/09/09][19:30:32] [Sara Dale]: but if a vvv person kills me I would be orange
[19/09/09][19:30:34] [Sara Dale]: but cant tell
[19/09/09][19:30:37] [<14776737>Gouge]: her point is that we can't tell for ourselves that we've turned orange
[19/09/09][19:30:39] [Mesanna]: we can look into maybe a buff icon so you know
[19/09/09][19:30:40] [<17169017>Xyience]: correct
[19/09/09][19:30:47] [Sara Dale]: great
[19/09/09][19:30:51] [Sara Dale]: 2nd thing
[19/09/09][19:30:52] [<16589292>Half-Life]: aye she brings up a great point
[19/09/09][19:30:54] [<13154234>Carrick McGee]: that would be fantastic...thanks Mesanna
[19/09/09][19:30:56] [Mesanna]: good point
[19/09/09][19:31:00] [Sara Dale]: I know its a wee bit early
[19/09/09][19:31:09] [<16589292>Half-Life]: i've gone stat and had no idea i was orange
[19/09/09][19:31:18] [<17169017>Xyience]: might as well put it in with he VvV arties as as package deal
[19/09/09][19:31:19] [Sara Dale]: are there plans in the working for a 25th ann meet and greet?
[19/09/09][19:31:36] [<15770190>Malloc]: negative
[19/09/09][19:31:38] [Mesanna]: lol not yet but we totally should have one
[19/09/09][19:31:45] [Sara Dale]: we should
[19/09/09][19:31:49] [Mesanna]: I have a few under my belt now they are getting easier to do
[19/09/09][19:31:55] [Sara Dale]: Same place would be nice
[19/09/09][19:31:57] [Sara Dale]: good
[19/09/09][19:32:07] [Sara Dale]: that is all I have
[19/09/09][19:32:08] [<14776737>Gouge]: I vote for RENO
[19/09/09][19:32:08] [<17169017>Xyience]: your times comming when detect is fixed
[19/09/09][19:32:11] [Sara Dale]: you have a good night
[19/09/09][19:32:12] [<13643986>Tanager]: they are nice events
[19/09/09][19:32:13] [Sara Dale]: *Waves*
[19/09/09][19:32:14] [Sara Dale]: *Waves*
[19/09/09][19:32:15] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19/09/09][19:32:21] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: so outside o' artists this is all the UO paid staff left?
[19/09/09][19:32:28] [Kikyo-]: hi
[19/09/09][19:32:30] [<14776737>Gouge]: yep
[19/09/09][19:32:34] [<15770190>Malloc]: lol i have died enought without it being fixed ;-) your team seems to over come the deficiency
[19/09/09][19:32:36] [Mesanna]: hi
[19/09/09][19:32:47] [Kikyo-]: I think it would be fun to activate treasures of tokuno for 1 month a year or something
[19/09/09][19:32:56] [Kikyo-]: it's amazing content that's already written, and was SUPER FUN on siege way back then due to the danger
[19/09/09][19:33:00] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: here here
[19/09/09][19:33:02] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: hahahaha
[19/09/09][19:33:09] [Kikyo-]: Plus, it would get more loot in the rotation
[19/09/09][19:33:12] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: activate tok arties hahahaha
[19/09/09][19:33:26] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: he's not wrong...
[19/09/09][19:33:28] [<15770190>Malloc]: that seems to be asked every year
[19/09/09][19:33:28] [Kikyo-]: everything else i wanted to talk about was touched on already
[19/09/09][19:33:29] [Kikyo-]: but
[19/09/09][19:33:30] [Kikyo-]: i mean
[19/09/09][19:33:34] [<13154234>Carrick McGee]: lots of us have enough arties stashed away
[19/09/09][19:33:39] [Kikyo-]: IF you consider treasures of tokuno
[19/09/09][19:33:40] [<17169017>Xyience]: what is everyone so afraid of, all you do is stealth around
[19/09/09][19:33:43] [<13643986>Tanager]: i would love to see all the Treasures of rotated out once a year...
[19/09/09][19:33:44] [<15770190>Malloc]: i did it on chessy it was fun... siege would be... interesting
[19/09/09][19:33:44] [Mesanna]: yes but now everything is out of date
[19/09/09][19:33:47] [Kikyo-]: I think doing it in a limited, scheduled manner is nice
[19/09/09][19:33:48] [Kikyo-]: ahhh
[19/09/09][19:33:50] [Kikyo-]: i disagree
[19/09/09][19:33:52] [Kikyo-]: i'd use an RBC
[19/09/09][19:33:53] [Kikyo-]: or the dyes
[19/09/09][19:33:57] [Kikyo-]: or the swords of prosp
[19/09/09][19:34:07] [Mesanna]: we can look into this
[19/09/09][19:34:07] [Kikyo-]: maybe even consider reactivating with new content
[19/09/09][19:34:11] [Kikyo-]: in the future
[19/09/09][19:34:15] [Kikyo-]: with upgradable arties
[19/09/09][19:34:15] [<14776737>Gouge]: Swords of Pros are great
[19/09/09][19:34:20] [Mesanna]: we do use that system alot
[19/09/09][19:34:22] [Kikyo-]: like you've done with doom
[19/09/09][19:34:26] [Kikyo-]: but anyways
[19/09/09][19:34:29] [Mesanna]: because you guys really like it so much
[19/09/09][19:34:29] [Kikyo-]: i loved samurai empire
[19/09/09][19:34:33] [Kikyo-]: and on siege
[19/09/09][19:34:35] [Kikyo-]: ... oh man
[19/09/09][19:34:36] [Kikyo-]: on SIEGE
[19/09/09][19:34:37] [Kikyo-]: ITS SO GOOD
[19/09/09][19:34:38] [<15770190>Malloc]: people love dyes
[19/09/09][19:34:39] [Mesanna]: you get to do it in your own time
[19/09/09][19:34:40] [Kikyo-]: k im done
[19/09/09][19:34:41] [Mesanna]: we get it
[19/09/09][19:34:42] [Kikyo-]: thanks
[19/09/09][19:34:48] [Mesanna]: welcome
[19/09/09][19:34:52] [Kikyo-]: kk
[19/09/09][19:34:54] [Kikyo-]: thats all
[19/09/09][19:34:54] [Kikyo-]: ttyl
[19/09/09][19:34:57] [<14776737>Gouge]: he's on crack
[19/09/09][19:35:00] [Mesanna]: have a great evening'
[19/09/09][19:35:02] [<13643986>Tanager]: i think they sell the dyes in the store tho... kinda shoot themselves in the foot if they dropped into ppls packs
[19/09/09][19:35:09] [Mesanna]: hi
[19/09/09][19:35:12] [<15770190>Malloc]: actually he's comment was decent
[19/09/09][19:35:19] [<15770190>Malloc]: his
[19/09/09][19:35:24] [Carrick McGee]: hello
[19/09/09][19:35:31] [Carrick McGee]: One quick question
[19/09/09][19:35:36] [Mesanna]: ok
[19/09/09][19:35:42] [Carrick McGee]: What are your ideas for the idoc changes?
[19/09/09][19:35:48] [Mesanna]: oh oh oh
[19/09/09][19:35:52] [Mesanna]: so many
[19/09/09][19:35:56] [<2930198>Max Blackoak]: oh yeah, leave Siege idocs alone!!!
[19/09/09][19:36:00] [Carrick McGee]: "listening"
[19/09/09][19:36:02] [Mesanna]: I will be making a post very soon on the boards
[19/09/09][19:36:04] [<15770190>Malloc]: no more 15 hours
[19/09/09][19:36:09] [Mesanna]: with several ideas
[19/09/09][19:36:16] [<15770190>Malloc]: and vary the time some
[19/09/09][19:36:16] [Carrick McGee]: fantastic...thanks so much
[19/09/09][19:36:18] [<10084971>Liam]: cant wait
[19/09/09][19:36:19] [Mesanna]: that we well open for dicussion
[19/09/09][19:36:24] [Mesanna]: so please check it out
[19/09/09][19:36:32] [Mesanna]: and yes we do know that something needs to be done
[19/09/09][19:36:39] [Mesanna]: but we only want to make one more change
[19/09/09][19:36:42] [Mesanna]: a good one!!
[19/09/09][19:36:50] [Mesanna]: Greetings
[19/09/09][19:36:59] [Half-Life]: hello
[19/09/09][19:37:13] [Half-Life]: a request from my gm
[19/09/09][19:37:26] [Half-Life]: with the upcoming closure of blackthorn dungeon
[19/09/09][19:37:44] [Half-Life]: would it be possible to move the gold elemental to another area
[19/09/09][19:37:53] [Half-Life]: we use him for our fall festival
[19/09/09][19:37:55] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: hehe
[19/09/09][19:38:09] [<13643986>Tanager]: mmmm iiiingots
[19/09/09][19:38:15] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: think that's the winter festival
[19/09/09][19:38:24] [<13643986>Tanager]: yes, for artisan festival
[19/09/09][19:38:24] [<15770190>Malloc]: make bo dress in all gold and try to get thim to drop his loot... problem solved
[19/09/09][19:38:28] [<13643986>Tanager]: bods bods an more bods
[19/09/09][19:38:35] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: hahahahhahaha
[19/09/09][19:38:48] [<15770190>Malloc]: he's probably enjoy the attention
[19/09/09][19:38:52] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: odg @ Malloc
[19/09/09][19:39:00] [Mesanna]: we can try to fix them in a good spot
[19/09/09][19:39:08] [Half-Life]: great thanks
[19/09/09][19:39:10] [<13643986>Tanager]: i second idea to have elementals!
[19/09/09][19:39:13] [Mesanna]: welcome
[19/09/09][19:39:23] [Half-Life]: i have been enjoying the castle contests
[19/09/09][19:39:31] [Mesanna]: good =)
[19/09/09][19:39:43] [Half-Life]: i used to be a faction player and advocate once upon a time
[19/09/09][19:39:47] [<14776737>Gouge]: ask if they can pick more than one each this time?
[19/09/09][19:39:59] [Half-Life]: when you work on your next revamp for vvv
[19/09/09][19:40:23] [Half-Life]: would you consider using your new castle designs for player buildable and attackable bases
[19/09/09][19:40:31] [Half-Life]: much like faction bases of old
[19/09/09][19:40:54] [Half-Life]: more of a long term with list for me
[19/09/09][19:40:55] [Mesanna]: you mean with attackabe walls?
[19/09/09][19:40:58] [Half-Life]: aye
[19/09/09][19:41:05] [Mesanna]: *hrm*
[19/09/09][19:41:09] [Mesanna]: interesting idea
[19/09/09][19:41:13] [Half-Life]: you added the turrets which i thought was great
[19/09/09][19:41:14] [<14776737>Gouge]: ew, UO meets SrongHold
[19/09/09][19:41:15] [<14776737>Gouge]: hehe
[19/09/09][19:41:31] [Mesanna]: King of the Castle
[19/09/09][19:41:41] [Half-Life]:
[19/09/09][19:41:57] [Mesanna]: its a good idea
[19/09/09][19:41:58] [Half-Life]: thanks for your consideration that was all i had
[19/09/09][19:42:03] [Mesanna]: would make for fun adventures
[19/09/09][19:42:09] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19/09/09][19:42:16] [Half-Life]: yes it would and i think bring some life back to the system
[19/09/09][19:42:23] [Half-Life]: thanks for all you do
[19/09/09][19:42:29] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19/09/09][19:42:38] [Mesanna]: thats everyone
[19/09/09][19:42:47] [Mesanna]: thank you for having us Siege
[19/09/09][19:42:48] [Kyronix ]: Thanks for attending and such great questions!
[19/09/09][19:42:50] [Bleak]: Thanks for coming out everyone
[19/09/09][19:42:52] [<14192125>Sara Dale]: thank you for popping up here
[19/09/09][19:43:01] [<19209210>Ol'Rac Nnod]: kk make wit the pressies gods
[19/09/09][19:43:06] [<10084971>Liam]: thanks for letting us ask questions,
[19/09/09][19:43:10] [Mesanna]: Keep an eye on the forums for some upcoming ideas
[19/09/09][19:43:12] [<11719731>Desdemona Lyre]: Thank you Messana'
[19/09/09][19:43:14] [<13643986>Tanager]: ty Devs! Keep on UOing!
[19/09/09][19:43:15] [<16544822>Kikyo-]: special thanks from mail spelled backwards
[19/09/09][19:43:17] [Mesanna]: feedback is always welcome
[19/09/09][19:43:20] [Mesanna]: Night all