He is totaly right. He is playing being a crafter or crafter-merchant you are playing being something else maybe pvp or role player. Unless you constantly use up 90% of your game time with bods, making armor-weapons, resource gathering, selling youre products to other players having your name known for your items and feeling accomplishment of your hard work and this is the enjoyment you get from playing UO.
That isn't hope. That is one of the saddest things I've read and just goes to show what a joke this whole thing is.
That lone statement just goes to show how clueless you truely are.
Taking in most of what you claim here. Why doesn't anyone that can't earn (using the mouse) anything in game just go and play on TC. There is no excuse for using a script but being pure lazy and some need to be better then the Jones's. Or the need to take other lazy players real money or gold off vendor sales. So it boils down to moral character and somes parents needing a hard punch to the head. Dropping your soap in a prison shower because everyone else does, doesn't mean your a cheater, excuse works unless it makes you feel fuzzy and complete
how many of these 30k usrs play freeshards where attended scripts are legal?Well there's up to 30,000 wrong people playing this game then and that's just one site...
Anyone recall that poll last month "Will you quit if EA doesn't do anything about cheating!?".
A few people cried yea I'll quit...
"Well EA hasn't done anything for 10 years so why haven't you quit yet?"
Scripting effects and harms no one.
I don't care if some guy wants to tame bulls in Jhelom Pit. Let him do so and I'll go on my merry way doing the things I want to in the game.
Live and Let Live.
Your all way too up tight.
It gives those who script a very large advantage over those who don't, in every aspect of the game, from harvesting and skill training, to crafting, to pvp. If it didn't, no one would do it. The people who don't script are new players who don't know how to do it, and the truly honest players, who take the TOS we all agree to seriously.Fine, if the devs can't win the battle against scripters, and can't enforce their own TOS, they need to make a clear, unequivocal statement that scripting in all its forms is now legal, so that everyone is playing the same game. Right now, and throughout the history of UO, the cheaters have been playing one game, while the honest players have been playing a much more difficult game, one in which they cannot compete with the cheaters.I don't care if some guy wants to tame bulls in Jhelom Pit. Let him do so and I'll go on my merry way doing the things I want to in the game.
Live and Let Live.
Your all way too up tight.
I reject 100% that EA cant win if they want to. FACT - issue a major patch every 3 days and that scripting program is out of action.
What's the point? With the exception of combat scripts most scripts are designed expressly to allow the character to play the game unattended. My guess is that is the way 99.9% of those scripts are used. If they can't enforce the TOS with regard to attended scripting, they certainly can't do it with regard to unattended scripting.
A minor code change every server up will knock out THAT program
They have known this for years but will not implement it due to the fact that they do not know what the reaction will be from the scripting populace. I suspect that Cal is these new scripting heuristics to see what is what.
Lots of things give advantage over those who don't do it...time, spouse that plays, EC over CC, RL abilities, money (RMT is still legal), etc.
Can you make up your mind, either they inflate the prices or they keep the prices low. You know what inflates prices? The ease of getting gold for normal players through trading and monster killing...you can make millions in the troglodyte caves, who on earth would want to mine for resources with RANDOMIZED resources when the money is in such abundance.
So are you saying that Surgeries is a cheater for instance? Because he has said he has no problem getting what he needs and making both money and items in the game. So which is it? If he's an honest player, how can he play the game? By your word, he's supposed to be screwed completely.
Here I thought people were whining about UO being too easy and there's not enough of a challenge...really...make up your mind.
And see...this is why you guys are either endlessly naive or deliberately obfuscating. Sure it might stop that ONE program, but it won't stop any of the others, which are far worse.
1. You can legally BUY everything you want and need in the game, RMT is legal in UO. So to say that you need a script or you need to cheat to compete is completely in error.
You have a good point there! So let's drive out even more of the playerbase to freeshards,that's really going to help make UO viable. You people are calling for a witchhunt that will have no positive effects whatsoever.
If BS was snow I'd be in a blizzard right now. UO is not a competition! Where are you getting this from? Neither is real life for that matter." Life is a journey not a destination."
The honest players are the ones who can't get a fair price for the resources they harvest and the items they craft, and even the items they legitimately gain in pvm. The honest players paradoxically also can't afford all of the ridiculously priced items whose prices are inflated due to the effects of scripting.
In short the honest players get screwed every way by scripting and cheating, and eventually most of them will leave. Which is the situation we are in now in UO.
Fine, if the devs can't win the battle against scripters, and can't enforce their own TOS, they need to make a clear, unequivocal statement that scripting in all its forms is now legal, so that everyone is playing the same game. Right now, and throughout the history of UO, the cheaters have been playing one game, while the honest players have been playing a much more difficult game, one in which they cannot compete with the cheaters.
But they can't do this, because they made a deal with the devil when they inaugurated the "UO Pro" program. Anything that would knock out ****** would also know out UOA, because UOA hacks the datastream and data stored in ram in exactly the same way. And without UOA, or something that provides the same kind of functionality, the classic client is pretty much unplayable.
I can assure you that the advantages that cheaters have over me personally in game, specifically because I don't cheat, are not in my head. I do well enough to keep me happy, and I can compete, but everything I do in game takes longer, and requires more effort in comparison to those who cheat.
Not sure I agree with your perspective on scripting, but I definitely agree with the statement quoted above.
There are plenty of scripts that don't allow you to do anything you couldn't normally do, but are still patently unfair, because they do it faster than a human player could normally do them, or more consistently, and because they don't make mistakes. In high level pvp it is often the player that makes the most mistakes that loses, a well crafted script doesn't make mistakes.
And this is the proof that you're either lying, delusional, just ignorant or flat out obfuscating the issue.
We've already had this discussion a number of times. You are wrong. I know you are wrong. The hundreds, if not thousands, of pvp'rs using scripts in pvp know you are wrong. The devs know you are wrong. My guess is even you know you are wrong.
The people who know me in game, the ones I have had a great deal of contact with, know I'm not a liar. They know I will tell the truth even if it makes me, or someone I am allied with, look bad. Can you say the same about the people that know you well? My guess is you could, but my guess is it would also be a load of horse manure...
