OK... that is rather bare. Experience, knowledge and tactics... Is that all?Skill would be better phrased as "Meaningful Experience" or "Knowledge of better tactics than the other guy"
That's a weird avatar, hahaha.Its really just who is better at setting macros and hitting buttons no skill really,I use about 4 or 5 macros on my bard most PVPers i would bet 10 at least you can see it when they speak as they cast 12 spells a sentance !!
Obv. it's who can do RNG betterWhat is this skill?
The definition of PvP skills is:I just keep seeing "skill" being mentioned. What is this skill? I am genuinely interested in what PvPers and "others" have to say about this.
That's not pvp skill, that's the wanna bes who can't quite cut it against the ones that have real skill.It is something that is earned by talking about someone's mother in Gen Chat.You get bonus skill for also talking about pvp while sitting in Luna or in a GZ.
Solo PvP you pay attention to keeping yourself alive and so its easier in a sense, but its all about the individual skill and ability.I like this thread! Can any of you folks talk about PvPing as part of a group and what factors make that successful or not? (No, I'm not talking about just having a bigger group, because I somehow think that doesn't always make you successful.)
Group pvp has several other factors. As Zero said, solo pvp is about keeping an eye on yourself while taking down the other guy. Group, you have more responsibilities. You have to consider what you can do with your group, rather than just you. Recognize the templates you have in your group and utilize them correctly. Know the strengths and weaknesses of your group, but as Zero said, a group that plays well together can overcome numbers advantages from a disorganized group. In group pvp croshealing is a must, calling targets and getting people on foot is a must as well. Depending on numbers and environment, factors come into play for "choke point" fighting, casting fields and walls, etc.I like this thread! Can any of you folks talk about PvPing as part of a group and what factors make that successful or not? (No, I'm not talking about just having a bigger group, because I somehow think that doesn't always make you successful.)
This is more of a philosphy but it's more of a feeling in my opinion. A point in which 2 people converge into one movement or balance, like a dance or a breathing of life that fills your emotions within anticipation of your opponents next move. A way of leading the dance or following is where a skill comes in or a knowledge of your opponent.What is this skill?
From what I can tell, it has something to do with general chat.What is this skill?
LOL....truthfully...probably "the program that cannot be named".I'd be interested in hearing what 3rd party programs work best for those that pvp. Pinco's UI? UOA?
The 3rd party program that causes players that come to the bank and say a block of text before saying bank. "11111aaaaaaaaqqqqqqqqqzzzzzzz222222111 bank"LOL....truthfully...probably "the program that cannot be named".
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That's purely keyboard macros. The only 3rd pp that would help someone in pvp is one that makes you go faster. It's also real easy to see who those people are.The 3rd party program that causes players that come to the bank and say a block of text before saying bank. "11111aaaaaaaaqqqqqqqqqzzzzzzz222222111 bank"
On a serious note, and you'll have to forgive me for my first post I misunderstood your intentions.
Cetric summed it up in a just couple of words. To me knowledge (especially game mechanics) and experience are very important, and I'll try and give a few examples:
Knowing purge takes off protection, timing cures for right before a heal goes off, leaving poison on to prevent paras/other poisons, not blowing all your mana on specials right off the bat, situational awareness, general game knowledge of timing, etc...
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People that use that junk are typically not as good as those that do. The human mind and keyboard macros are more efficient than any 3rd party crap. theres times you are poisoned, that you don't neccesarily want to cure instantly for instance.I was thinking of 3rd party programs that help players reequip weapons and shields and also to chug pots much faster than doing it manually.
I have seen it said in old pvp threads over the years that state "May the player with the best 3rd party program,win." This is why I am completely disinterested in UO PvP.
MOTHERFERS..............Having the people you are fighting with know what you are doing without saying it (effers that break para spams)
Define 3rd party programs. UOAssist & EC are quite legit. Would a serious player turn control over to a bot?I was thinking of 3rd party programs that help players reequip weapons and shields and also to chug pots much faster than doing it manually.
I have seen it said in old pvp threads over the years that state "May the player with the best 3rd party program,win." This is why I am completely disinterested in UO PvP.
legit but still lame that they give so many advantages (though EC does have disadvantages to it too, at least, UOA doesn't really share that). Years ago UOA functions were starting to be added to the ingame macro system to phase out the need for UOA, but for some reason EA stopped after only pulling some in. Thankfully things like bandage self and bandage target you no longer need UOA for, thsoe were the major ones for me, and now that there's actually a bandage icon in game on the buff bar i wasn't using UOA at all anymore, but UOA and the EC enable things like quick chugging of pots, ability to keep 4-5 different weapons in reserve and quickly swap between them (somehow EC also allows you to do this WITHOUT disarming). CC without UOA you can only quick swap between two weapons, but even that is broken if you get disarmed.Define 3rd party programs. UOAssist & EC are quite legit. Would a serious player turn control over to a bot?
There's something I think that many who discuss the issue of cheating and illegal third part apps don't understand, or deliberately attempt to obfuscate. The problem with scripting in pvp generally isn't great big scriptzillas that will pvp for you, or control every aspect of your healing, curing and curse removal. Those bloated scripts will generally not perform as well as a skilled player, no matter how well they are written. The scripts that are the problem are small, specific scripts, that most "skilled" pvp'rs like to call "macros". Some of them are key activated, some of them run in the background and only activate when very specific conditions are met.Define 3rd party programs. UOAssist & EC are quite legit. Would a serious player turn control over to a bot?
Well, I'm used to you/yours by nowLet's leave avatars out of this for the time being. If you want wierd look at mine closely...
So OK, macros.