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Nisse/Ubbe
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I voted for a raise, but i will explain how i think. In my ide i want to be able to sacrefice chars from my account to give skill points to 1 char.
The skill above 720 (vet) can only be skills that has no inpact on damage.
Example here would be. I got 6 chars on europa. I sacrefice 5 and that erns me another 500 skillpoints.
Above my 720 i cant take skills like
magery
eval
weapond skill
tac
chiv
necro
SS
SW
focus
medi
poisening
hiding
stealth
magicresist
The skill above 720 (vet) can only be skills that has no inpact on damage.
Example here would be. I got 6 chars on europa. I sacrefice 5 and that erns me another 500 skillpoints.
Above my 720 i cant take skills like
magery
eval
weapond skill
tac
chiv
necro
SS
SW
focus
medi
poisening
hiding
stealth
magicresist
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Prince Caspian
Guest
The skill cap is a mixed blessing/curse, I've come to find out in UO.
It has made me define the path for each member in the old PC character stable. Originally I wanted to have a treasurehunter ninja thief, but those roles got split into two seperate characters.
I sure could use an additional 100 though. It would be nice to give my main Focus and my mage/necro spellweaving.
It has made me define the path for each member in the old PC character stable. Originally I wanted to have a treasurehunter ninja thief, but those roles got split into two seperate characters.
I sure could use an additional 100 though. It would be nice to give my main Focus and my mage/necro spellweaving.
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Lord GOD(GOD)
Guest
I voted no, it's fine how it is.
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Coppelia
Guest
The scale of difficulty makes 120 a norm.
Bards can't do anything with GM skills.
If going to 120 was like taking a speciality it would be ok, but no, it's a necessity.
So yes, we need more room.
Bards can't do anything with GM skills.
If going to 120 was like taking a speciality it would be ok, but no, it's a necessity.
So yes, we need more room.
Raising the skill cap will open a whole other can of worms.
The skill cap has worked fine for years, why bother fixing something that's not broke.
Personally I wish the Devs would work on fixing all the other broken aspects of UO, instead of wasting time changing systems that already work.
The skill cap has worked fine for years, why bother fixing something that's not broke.
Personally I wish the Devs would work on fixing all the other broken aspects of UO, instead of wasting time changing systems that already work.
Adding more skill points would be a massive imbalance in PvP that would require a new round of focus groups, player feedback and tons of developer time. I would have to vote no purely based on that.
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Revenant2
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This thing is very, very touchy. You can add as few as 35 skill points and have it change some templates in an extremely empoweringly way. This isn't even a thing where taking a vote from the playerbase makes sense since lots of players don't understand other people's templates.
What I'd enjoy seeing is having skills divided up into 2 categories, crafting and fighting, and have seperate skillcaps applied to each, with the crafting skills that give a bonus to the fighting skills counting toward both caps. That way, I could take my lumberjack out chopping would and get to enjoy people coming along to try to kill me, like way back when before there was any skill cap at all. My lumberjack would also be my main PVP guy, so it's like, come and get me? heh.
Or, even simpler, make the crafting skills that don't have a fighting benefit for that char's skillset simply not count toward the skillcap, if you really wanted to dumb it down. Edit: Like, a full blown combat archer template could also carry lumberjacking with no penalty, stuff like that. In either setup, you should be able to build an archer with 720 skill points, and not have unapplicable crafting skills such as lumberjacking apply to the fighting side of it.
What I'd enjoy seeing is having skills divided up into 2 categories, crafting and fighting, and have seperate skillcaps applied to each, with the crafting skills that give a bonus to the fighting skills counting toward both caps. That way, I could take my lumberjack out chopping would and get to enjoy people coming along to try to kill me, like way back when before there was any skill cap at all. My lumberjack would also be my main PVP guy, so it's like, come and get me? heh.
Or, even simpler, make the crafting skills that don't have a fighting benefit for that char's skillset simply not count toward the skillcap, if you really wanted to dumb it down. Edit: Like, a full blown combat archer template could also carry lumberjacking with no penalty, stuff like that. In either setup, you should be able to build an archer with 720 skill points, and not have unapplicable crafting skills such as lumberjacking apply to the fighting side of it.
Instead of raising the caps, why not put the skills back to what they were? For most skills, legendary is about what master used to be. The problem is that, every time someone snivles a little, some skill or another gets nerfed. As time passed, all skills spiraled down toward nothing. Just restore all the skills so that master and grand master means something again.
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Coppelia
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That's fine for me too. But then you need to give something to champ spawns.
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Iwould like to see an option not in the poll...
Have the Real Skill cap advance 5 per year from 700 (continuing past 4 years), but have a cap of 800 skill points total for real+equipment.
Have the Real Skill cap advance 5 per year from 700 (continuing past 4 years), but have a cap of 800 skill points total for real+equipment.
I think there should be a secondary skill cap with primary skill caps.... Primary skill caps being your combat skills and skills that people mainly use the most, that would be a 700 skill cap, maybe higher..
Then we have stuff like camping, item id, taste id, cooking, fishing, tracking, begging, etc.. It would mainly be skills that don't get used much anymore..
Just my two cents..
Then we have stuff like camping, item id, taste id, cooking, fishing, tracking, begging, etc.. It would mainly be skills that don't get used much anymore..
Just my two cents..
Hard cap of 720 skills and equipment
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No. No need to raise the skillcap when you can already raise it by a LOT thanks to jewelry, special event items and artifacts.
No. No need to raise the skillcap when you can already raise it by a LOT thanks to jewelry, special event items and artifacts.
I will restate this my way ....
Given that 120 is the required skill max now then the skill cap is required to be increased to facilitate that reality.
840 as a skill cap is probably suitable and please STOP adding things that push the skill cap requirements up.
The same argument can be made for Runic made items. It is pretty much required now that one either has Runic made items or Artifacts OR BOTH.
It is time to enable the Runic Tools to be on the Tinkers Menu list
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Masumatek
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Why? So we can allow for yet more overpowered templates? No.
What does need to be changed though is vet rewards. A vets advantage over newer players is their tremendous amount of experience. Why people feel they have the "right" to have 5-20 more skill points (which can really make a huge difference) just because they are "vets" I will never understand. Then again I guess it makes sense. The majority of mmo players don't want fairness. They want any advantage over their fellow players they can get. There's no reason to allow vets to have more skill points than newer players.
What does need to be changed though is vet rewards. A vets advantage over newer players is their tremendous amount of experience. Why people feel they have the "right" to have 5-20 more skill points (which can really make a huge difference) just because they are "vets" I will never understand. Then again I guess it makes sense. The majority of mmo players don't want fairness. They want any advantage over their fellow players they can get. There's no reason to allow vets to have more skill points than newer players.
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galefan2004
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The skill cap is fine as is. Its even more fine when you figure that using skill items you can normally push it to between 850-900 points at the extreme. Of course, doing this will probably destroy any chance you have of having a suit that is capable of playing in, but it can still be done.
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galefan2004
Guest
Yes because everyone should have a stealth ninja archer mage necro tamer to run around and play with. Sounds fun to me. Hell, I'd give up a character slot for that too (especially considering I don't even have my 5th or 6th slot being used yet).
The 720 cap is designed to help balance the game so we don't have samaurai necro paladin archer tamers and the like. If they raised the cap to 820 it would make a lot more powerful templates and if it was higher than that the templates would start to get insane (especially when you figure in skill items).
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galefan2004
Guest
Because we should really aim to overpower veteran accounts then look for fresh blood to get into the game? I already won't play an account that doesn't have at least 720 skill points, and that normally means I end up buying up veteran accounts. This is a good thing for sites that sell accounts, but if other people think like I do it is probably not a good thing when it comes to new accounts getting opened.
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RenaLynne
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Whats the point of this really?
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Masumatek
Guest
There's no reason anyone should be complaining about not having enough skill points. People can make some damn powerful templates. It would be very imbalanced if more skill points were added. And as others have pointed out, there are unfortunately plenty of items that boost you beyond the cap. And this is done not only directly though items like +skill, but also indirectly through item properties that replace skills, such as sr, mr, lmc, and more.
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galefan2004
Guest
I am sure you wanted to mention mage weapon...I mean how else do you get 120 free skill points?
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Masumatek
Guest
Yes that's just one of the many item properties that are bad for the game. I've been asking for that one to be completely removed for a long time.I am sure you wanted to mention mage weapon...I mean how else do you get 120 free skill points?