Our Ingot Scripter is Back...

[FarausKarzak]

I beleive those houses in flame across many shards had all the same layout.

Everyone of em were the same. stocked daily. non stop. over months. Lets say years.

Thats where some got mistaken... no it aint a LAYOUT thing.

Its the non-stop stocked low prices monopole thingy that clearly indicate some incompatibility with the LEGIT way of this game.

Yes you can have a lot of ressources. that you probably bought or that you spent hours gathering. You can even choose to sell em all out for a period of time. But you gonna RUN DRY some day!!

And if you buy and resell... those guy where you buy will get dry soon too unless they either have no live or script their supplies.

the % factor that this thing is realized without any cheating ways is quit low. but yes it is there. But come on. we all know that this is **** !

Getting in game gold without any work all day long is bad for the game mechanic on LEGIT people.

But people mostly care only about themself. so.. whatever.

 

[Lord Kynd]

I REALLY LIKE how you edited out the relevant part of my post that blows your response out of the water....

You know, the point about trying to provoke a reaction as another motive?

How about if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, etc. it's probably a duck? Or, are you being so anal you insist on genetic testing and vivisection to prove its a duck?

I can see your side - you're just taking it to such absurd extremes that you're making yourself look bad.


To follow your line of argument, if one saw a picture of a car with bullet holes, that was

• involved with a murder
• on a news report saying to keep a lookout for these suspects who are still potentially at large

- then you saw a car of the correct make, model, color and the EXACT pattern of bullet holes from the news photo,

...You'd ignore it, because it could very well be a different car, that just happened to have the same number and position of bullet holes.



It is the GM's position to judge guilt or innocence - but you seem to think that they're the only one allowed to report a potential violation for investigation. It doesn't work that way in any game OR the real world.

to use your own words.... 'I can see your side - you're just taking it to such absurd extremes that you're making yourself look bad.'

your talking about whole different sides of a spectrum of items/events..


ducks, ok, but what type of duck is it, where was it born, where are it's parents? ???

robbers gettaway car.. hmm one of a kind for the most part, fairly obvious.

what are you thinking? have the witch hunters twisted your thinking that much ?


and your last part 'It is the GM's position to judge guilt or innocence' .. arn't you and connor both passing judgment such as a GM should be the one doing ? not ya'll?

'but you seem to think that they're the only one allowed to report a potential violation for investigation. It doesn't work that way in any game OR the real world.[' report is once then and leave it alone, ya'll are

 

[Lord Kynd]

I'm not following what you're trying to insinuate here. If you're suggesting that I'm a scripter, no cigar for you.

hmm nope, but what you get nervous ?

you sure like to point fingers tho. and whats up with stalking people and there houses/vendors ?
since ya'll like to relate most things to real life.. stalking is illegal.

 

[Connor_Graham]

"hmm nope, but what you get nervous ?"

Uh, probably the fact that this is UHall? Nuf said...


"whats up with stalking people and there houses/vendors ? "

Who's stalking? He drops runes daily, and being both an ingot vendor and buyer, I check out every ingot vendor I run across. I saw something that looked like a duck so I checked it out.

Guess what?


It quacked like a duck too....

*waddle waddle*

 

[Prince Caspian]

"EA is doing everything they can to stop scripters, dupers and cheaters."

 

[Limlight]

Couple Comments.

1. When I sell things on a vendor...I name my vendors the exact same way...either:

Ingots-Gems or I would do Ingots/Gems

We dont have alot of length to do it.

2. It depends on what he has millions of.
If he has millions of colored ingots....then something might be wrong.

But if its Iron he has millions of. PALEASE.

I had over 40 million Iron Ingots for a long time.

How? When you could smelt bods for 500 iron ingots.

I bought small normal and exceptional weapon bods from people for like 100 gold per bod. Bought over 50,000 BODS (which cost me 5+ million gold)

Smelted them all for 25+ million iron ingots (which I then sold for 12 per)
Yes, that makes 300 million.

Obviously, my above math is more of a formula. As I had over 40 million ingots...I didnt scam anyone. I didnt script. I didnt dupe. I didnt do anything illegal. Although they changed it....just like they changed beinf overloaded and handing in bods until you got sandles or PS's.

I've not paid more than 10 GP per Iron Ingot in the last 8 months - I typically buy 3k per stop, and it averages out to 9 GP per (1000 @ 8GP, 1000 @ 9GP, 1000 @10 GP).

You just have to know where to go (I bought 18k Iron last night this way)...

Some of the same sources have normal wood, starting at 3 GP per board. And, all of them are right next to a banker....

NPCS FTW!

 

[Connor_Graham]

"2. It depends on what he has millions of.
If he has millions of colored ingots....then something might be wrong."

As I'd said earlier in the thread:


He's able to restock with thousands more ingots of every ore type as fast as they sell out.

 

[Limlight]

Well, then logic comes into play.

Either he is
A. Buying all the shards ingots (which is possible) and re-selling them.

or

B. He is scripting.

Period. There is no other explanations.

No human can physically mine millions of colored ingots.

Ironically, I know the first ban got rid of the one I saw most. As one of his recall spots was by my Keep. He never comes by there anymore and his character can not be looked up on UO Search.

Bright Star of Atlantic. He was a Chiv miner. He was on 24/7.

 

[Connor_Graham]

You can scratch A. The sheer number of high colored ore he has pretty much knocks that one off the list. There also aren't enough people selling the higher ores at a price that are lower than his for him to be getting them that way.

Like I said...

Quack Quack

 

[Beefybone]

Mining in UO is a completely torturous and un-fun task. As far as I'm concerned, it's a job made for scripting.

 

[Madrid]

Mining in UO is a completely torturous and un-fun task. As far as I'm concerned, it's a job made for scripting.

Add lumberjacking to that as well and "make last item". Sitting in front of my computer clicking make last item 5000 times doesn't make for the most enthralling or enjoyable game play.

 

[Wolfie]

Let me be blunt and say yes I think this is a scriptor.

But let me clear something up. This is NOT the burning houses of Luna same scriptor.

If you all recall, there were random vendors around every shard in Luna. These vendors had the exact same set up and name as you see the OP has posted in the first post on this thread.

This person was NOT busted/banned. Those vendors all disapeared right after the Draconi house burning but the owner manually took them down. I believe he/she was sorta afraid of being " caught" and being "banned" next.

I know this for sure because he left one of those vendors standing on Sonoma. Same vendor, same attire on vendor, just removed ingots/gems and replaced with single transfer token. Why? I do not know but it is the same vendor that sold scripted items.

Last, I believe this person has decided the coast is clear again and we all are gonna see these vendors slowly but surely popping up on all shards once again around Luna. Time will tell I suppose.

 

[Limlight]

The question I ask you connor is:

Do you hate all scripters?

Do you hate the man who afk macro/scripts Blacksmithing skill to get to 120?

Or do you only hate the scripters who effect the UO economy and resources.

IE: People who make money off scripting.

Because I would be lying if I said "I never have AFK trained a skil"

 

[Basara]

PAS was right.
you are wrong.

umm what publicity? what layout? why not? oh you meen the single burning luna house on atlantic ? what is wrong with using a 'layout' that works the best? why do YOU assume everyone is cheating ?

"What Publicity?"??? SINGLE HOUSE?!?!?!!?!?

Where the hell were you before the old forums crashed?

There were several HUGE threads, with pictures and confirmations of thsoe houses existing on EVERY non-asian Shard (with possible exception of SP - can't remember) of that particular scripter.

There are THREE houses burning, at least, JUST ON LAKE AUSTIN.... Just because you don't leave Luna on Atlantic, doesn't mean there aren't more - Hell there was ALSO a thread showing most of the burning houses on the shards, and there were at least 20 different posts picturing different houses from various shards.

The people reporting stuff like this aren't going around LOOKING for these things; they just find them in everyday play.

So, you think that NO ONE should report a crime they happen on? That's rich... Last I heard, NOT reporting made you an accessory in most jurisdictions in the real world, worldwide....

 

[Basara]

The question I ask you connor is:

Do you hate all scripters?

Do you hate the man who afk macro/scripts Blacksmithing skill to get to 120?

Or do you only hate the scripters who effect the UO economy and resources.

IE: People who make money off scripting.

Because I would be lying if I said "I never have AFK trained a skil"

But if I said it, I would be telling the truth. And there are a lot of us...

Those of you taking shortcuts to speed-train skills are hurting your own enjoyment of the game, IMO.

Hell, the only time I used a golem to train (ATTENDED), made me feel dirty for months, and I rarely use the character as building its lumberjacking that way still makes it "tainted" for me.

 

[Sheridan]

C'mon folks... Same thing applies as in the other thread. No calling each other scripters and no making accusations. I see it time and time again and it's going to get threads like these locked immediately if it keeps up. Just because someone disagrees with you, that does not make them whatever it is you're out to get. And that goes equally for implying rather than outright accusing no matter how clever you think you are being in doing so.

For the last time... keep it civil.

 

[Connor_Graham]

The question I ask you connor is:

Do you hate all scripters? Yep

Do you hate the man who afk macro/scripts Blacksmithing skill to get to 120? Yep

Or do you only hate the scripters who effect the UO economy and resources. Nope, all of em.

IE: People who make money off scripting. IE....Nope.


I personally never felt the need to cheat. It's a game that I play for fun. If I cheated I'd be cheating myself.

 

[Beefybone]

I did my necromancy in 2 days with an LRC suit, a series of macros, and a penny wedged in to hold the key down. Normal skill gain in this game sucks too much for anything but a script to do it.

 

[Atlantian]

How many of you actually mine? I do and I think that someone that is scripting should be banned. It makes me mad when I go to a spot to mine and this scripter shows up and starts to mine in the same spot that I am. And it's obvious that they are doing this unattended.

 

[Atlantian]

I did my necromancy in 2 days with an LRC suit, a series of macros, and a penny wedged in to hold the key down. Normal skill gain in this game sucks too much for anything but a script to do it.

Is that considered a script though? I mean you're not using a 3rd party program. So I wouldn't think that's a script.

 

[Basara]

Technically, if he were there actually playing the character, doing other things on it while the spells kept casting (say, taking part in combat, crafting, etc.), Beefy would only get in trouble if the GMs figured out he had the penny wedged in his keyboard. It's against the rules, but how can one prove it without standing looking over his shoulder? That type of thing is considered a form of scripting (as it causes an infinite repeat situation), but is typically ignored by the GMs, if the character is also busy doing other things that aren't scripted (rightly so, as it is too much bother to try to figure out "hey, that key's being held down!").

Now, doing it UNATTENDED, that would be blatantly illegal. It's also a bit more obvious to the observer (be they EA employee or not).

 

[Surgeries]

Connor my point is that I don't care what your doing while playing UO or what some other guy is doing. Enjoy the game anyway you want.

Do you apply this same logic to Football, Checkers, Tennis, Horse Racing, and Nascar? They all have rules, and if you break the rules, most people (you excluded, of course), call it "CHEATING". Cheaters are generally scorned by most people. Why? Because they CHEAT. They gain an Unfair advantage over other players.

Let's dissect my previous examples, shall we?

If, in a game of Football, the other team moves the ball, to their advantage, between downs, and you see them do it, do you just say "Oh! No biggie! Go ahead and enjoy the game anyway you want!"? When you try it (moving the ball), the Ref jumps in and kicks you out of the game. How would you feel about CHEATING, then?

How about Checkers! You are in a heated match, when you have to go to the bathroom. Back you come, and the other player declares themselves the winner, and has cleared the board of your playing pieces. How long would you play Checkers, with a person like that? Would you tell them "I don't worry about what you do...go ahead and do what you enjoy doing, when we play Checkers!"?

Horse Racing...your prize race horse is mysteriously drugged (in a non-permanently harmful way, of course) right before a race. Your horse loses, as do almost all the other horses because they , too, are drugged, and one, in particular, wins, like they have every race, for the last 75 races. You saw the jockey give that horse drugs to enhance their performance, before the race. Would you say "Oh! You know...I really don't care that you gain an unfair advantage over my horse...I will still devote the time to training up and racing thoroughbreds against the likes of you, because I really don't care HOW you race...I just like to race!!".

Nascar...your car always gets flat tires in the pits...and runs terrible, during your races. You find out that an opposing team is putting tire puncturing nails on the ground in your area, and doctoring your car's fuel, so that it doesn't run well. Would you say "You just go right ahead, and CHEAT all you want...when I lose, I will know, in my heart, that I let YOU play the game the way YOU wanted to, and that I didn't mind...and that's really all I need!!".

God...I pity you, if this is your stance...but wait...there's MORE!!

I see players all the time that I think are scripting or unattending macroing and it does not bother me and I do not feel any need or desire to page a GM. Furthermore I do not feel as though they are taking away anything from me or the game or are detracting from it.

Wow...I DO pity you. Your logic is so very far from what anyone...ANYONE...in the real world would feel about people blatantly breaking established, written rules about a game that I am having a hard time going on...yikes.

A friend of mine the other day told me about how he was ignoring a player that was talking to him and suddenly a GM shows up because he was paged that "a player was unattended". Just as in real life people need to mind their own business and worry about themselves.

And the playerbase isn't dwindling because of scripters. It's dwindling because there not adding new content people get burned out doing the same things over and over.

Oh Lord...you honestly believe all this, don't you?

Tell you what...If you have any houses on any shards...I have a GREAT deal for you...you transfer the houses to me (18X 18's preferably), and I will give you back Castles, for every one!! Honest!! [/Intense Sarcasm]

Also the PvP playerbase gets burned out and fed up with the constant changes and tweaks to PvP. The game will never be the same since the disengration of the tank mage.

Live and Let Live.

Yeah, I am sure that all of the Healing and Speeding and Chugging and Spamming scripts have naught to do with how some people feel about PvP.

In fact...LOL...I am very sure that those scripts are just MYTHS...plus...even if they are real...you don't care that people use them, now, do you? I mean...if you PvPed, and didn't use these scripts, and others did, and they beat you...we all know you would say:

Live and Let Live.

Meh & Bleh...

 

[Lord Kynd]

Do you apply this same logic to Football, Checkers, Tennis, Horse Racing, and Nascar? They all have rules, and if you break the rules, most people (you excluded, of course), call it "CHEATING". Cheaters are generally scorned by most people. Why? Because they CHEAT. They gain an Unfair advantage over other players.

none of those can be related to a online game , let alone any kind of coucel game or comupter game. your talking about real life stuff , not make believe.


"Quote:Originally Posted by Madrid
Connor my point is that I don't care what your doing while playing UO or what some other guy is doing. Enjoy the game anyway you want."

exactly, if it doesn't effect me, other than pricing, but i am not a buyer anyhow, then mind your manors and your own beeswax.



"Quote:
A friend of mine the other day told me about how he was ignoring a player that was talking to him and suddenly a GM shows up because he was paged that "a player was unattended". Just as in real life people need to mind their own business and worry about themselves.

And the playerbase isn't dwindling because of scripters. It's dwindling because there not adding new content people get burned out doing the same things over and over. "


i feel the same.and have had this BS happen to me also.
hmm, maybe thats why i am so against the 'whichhunters' come to think of it.

 

[Amber Moon]

Well, I pointed this out in the last thread on a similar subject but perhaps it bears repeating.

The reason why some people don't care about 'cheaters' is that they don't view the game as competition, only as entertainment. And as long as the entertainment remains, ah, entertaining, it does not impact their play and therefore they don't care.

This does not invalidate the views of those that do feel their play is impacted,

The point being that neither side is likely to produce a logical argument capable of convincing the other side since it's not about logic but a philosophy of play.

The end result is

 

[Atlantian]

In my experience since I've been playing this game (7 years) the only people that "don't care" about whats going on in the game are the ones that are cheating or are in alliance with ones that are. True this is a game but why should we have to put up with lazy people in this game like we do in rl? If you're lazy playing this game I would hate to see what you are like in rl.

 

[Connor_Graham]

"exactly, if it doesn't effect me"

This sounds akin to most New Yorkers attitudes towards muggers when they see them plying their trade on a hapless innocent and walk on by insted of stopping to help.

"As long as it's not me getting mugged it's none of my business"

Yeah...right.


Script mining does affect me, and every other player that mines legitimately, so yeah, we're gonna throw a fit when we see an obvious scripter once again killing the market for the honest miner.

 

[Limlight]

I am personally torn.

I dont like scripting for profit.

Like mass scripting for ingots, wood, etc..

But I dont care if someone afk macros a skill to GM it or Legendary it.

Example: I have run by tons of people AFK training on a Golem. I dont page on them. I kill them if they are in Fel in front of their house. (happened a couple times)

But I dont page. As they arent really hurting the UO economy or really anything. Now, if they afk resources or afk kill Trgolodytes or Dread Spiders like they used too...that I care about.

I guess it might not make any sense. But I see them in two different lights.

 

[Amber Moon]

I am not suggesting you shouldn't speak out about things in the game you don't like.

I am suggesting that when someone expresses an opinion different from your own on the subject, it may be best to just let that opinion stand on it own merit (or lack of it) instead of throwing personal innuendo at them for expressing it. It the invective that is counterproductive, not the original point of view.

 

[Atlantian]

Script mining, lumberjacking,etc. is wrong. Someone that is macroing away from the key board is not the same. Training a skill is one thing but when you do it for profit is another. These people turn on their computer and set the 3rd party program and walk away. Jamming a penny into your keyboard is a way to save your fingers and knuckles. 3rd party is a cheat flat out because they are unattended.

 

[Hanna]

I had over 40 million Iron Ingots for a long time.

How? When you could smelt bods for 500 iron ingots.

I bought small normal and exceptional weapon bods from people for like 100 gold per bod. Bought over 50,000 BODS (which cost me 5+ million gold)

Smelted them all for 25+ million iron ingots (which I then sold for 12 per)
Yes, that makes 300 million.

Obviously, my above math is more of a formula. As I had over 40 million ingots...I didnt scam anyone. I didnt script. I didnt dupe. I didnt do anything illegal. Although they changed it....just like they changed beinf overloaded and handing in bods until you got sandles or PS's.

They changed it because it's was an exploit of bugged game mechanics. And yes exploiting game mechanics like that is illegal. They should have deleted all your ingots got the way, and they probably would have had they had a way to tell the difference between legally gotten ones and the illegal smelt the bod ones. But I think they could have safely assumed that anything over 1 million was illegal and just delete any amount over that.

 

[Landicine]

Is the penny in the keyboard really against the rules? Unless the key was connected to some questionable program, I don't think the penny repetition is illegal. It isn't a third party program; it is just mashing a macro in game. They have mentioned that attended macroing is fine haven't they?

I have no problem with attended macroing. I've done it for skills I've needed to raise for a second time on a different character. I do think that doing it for a skill you don't know will likely mean you don't learn as much about the skill to begin with, but that's not really any of my business. I have seen people complain about UOAssist, and if they don't like it, they shouldn't use it. I barely use it myself, but I do find certain features of it and the KR client useful for certain tasks.

Unattended macroing and scripting are actually cheating in my opinion. I would love to be making gold, ingots, runics, whatever with my UO account right now, but I'm at work. I also think that when a person isn't playing, he shouldn't be making a profit in game.

 

[Nine Dark Moons]

my understanding is that weighting down a key with a penny or whatever is ok AS LONG AS you're sitting there watching your char, aka attended-macroing. i don't see any difference with weighting down a key and using a UOA macro - they both save your fingers and hands from cramping up. it's when you leave your computer with something weighting down a macro key that it's against the rules of the game. that's what i've understood anyway. attended macroing = ok (as long as you're not using a 3rd party program other than UOA). unattended macroing = never ok.

 

[ColterDC]

your talking about real life stuff , not make believe.

Doesn't matter whether its a game or real life. All the other chars you see running around in UO are real life people, which means your actions are effecting other real life, breathing, feeling human beings.

Saying it's ok to cheat just because it's an online game doesn't make any sense to me. Now if you want to cheat at an offline console game, go for it since the only person you're effecting is yourself.

 

[Limlight]

They changed it because it's was an exploit of bugged game mechanics. And yes exploiting game mechanics like that is illegal. They should have deleted all your ingots got the way, and they probably would have had they had a way to tell the difference between legally gotten ones and the illegal smelt the bod ones. But I think they could have safely assumed that anything over 1 million was illegal and just delete any amount over that.

Ahh, but what would then happen to all the BODS I used?

Bottom line, I dont do anything UO says I shouldnt.

I am one of the people who reported it. But they took forever to fix it. If its not on their priority list to fix. I dont see why I should have to cater to it.

By your logic...someone shouldnt have over-weighted themselves to be guaranteed sandles or a powerscroll from BOD rewards. It was technically using the mechanics they laid out.

The bottom line is...if they are too lazy to not check something simple like that in their coding...and if they dont care after many of us report it.

Who is to say it was wrong?

I actually paged a GM...showed him the ingots
(at the time is was like 70,000)
....he did nothing accept say that "he didnt think it was supposed to do that, but that he would pass it along" and some gibberish about "keeping in mind that if they deem it an exploit...my ingots could be deleted"

Here I am, years later...no one I know of got their ingots deleted and many did it.

So, what does that tell me?

 

[PASmountaindew]

But if I said it, I would be telling the truth. And there are a lot of us...

Those of you taking shortcuts to speed-train skills are hurting your own enjoyment of the game, IMO.

Hell, the only time I used a golem to train (ATTENDED), made me feel dirty for months, and I rarely use the character as building its lumberjacking that way still makes it "tainted" for me.

Wow Basara not everyone can be hollier than thou. I admit that in the past there were times that I was guilty of running a macro while not watching the screen. But only had that happen a couple of times in the last 5 years I have ben playing. I would be running a UO assist macro and watching TV and get interrested in the tv show and forget my character was macroing till durring a commercial I will notice my character. I am sorry we all can not be perfect like you Basara but then again some of us are actually honest about our game play and admit to doing things wrong a few times in the past.

 

[Demonous]

It is because of people like this they distroyed mining for regular players. Now everyone has to either script, or buy their ingots from scripters, or pretty much spend every waking hour they can mining.

Ingots used to only cost me the time to mine them, now it requires way way too much time. I can't afford to spend that much time on anything that doesnt pay real money.

i dunno why people even start these threads, i wouldn't mine to save my life, its extremely boring and i don't have the time do to it, i prefer to pay gold for the ingots i need and the people that script doing this provide a service that i have no problem with. If someone is trying to mine the legit way to compete with scripters in selling ingots, just give up and make gold elsewhere

 

[Connor_Graham]

"i dunno why people even start these threads"

Simple. We can't stand cheaters, especially ones that directly affect our gameplay, not to mention the economy.


"i wouldn't mine to save my life, its extremely boring and i don't have the time do to it"

That's your opinion and your preference. There are a lot of people that enjoy mining.


"If someone is trying to mine the legit way to compete with scripters in selling ingots, just give up and make gold elsewhere"

So people that enjoy mining should give up a part of the game that they WANT to do because others want to cheat?

Uh...yeah.......how about we just get rid of the cheaters so all of the people that like to mine but quit the game in frustration can come back to UO and play the playstyle they happen to enjoy? Or even those few that stuck around can go back to their preferred playstyle? That sounds a hell of a lot better than letting a bunch of cheaters take over the game.

 

[Basara]

And SOME of us are ACTUALLY HONEST, PAS.

I'm DEAD SERIOUS. I am NOT "Holier than Thou". I'm not "perfect" either. If I was, I'd have never demeaned myself by rushing to train lumberjack using a golem, in the week before the release of ML.

I actually Play BY THE RULES.

My longest UO Assist macro runs 20-30 seconds, depending on lag, and that's not long enough to get out of my seat to get to the restroom across the hall, and do anything. One keystroke every 30 seconds is hardly a carpal tunnel issue. If one feels they have to have a 5 minute long macro for something, there's something wrong, somewhere....

I've sat, doing nothing, many a time (and often being away so long I time out), rather than run unattended macros, while doing things such as, well, replying to things on ICQ or Stratics, running to the throne, etc. If I have a macro running and have to do something NOW, well, that's what CTRL-END is for....

 

[Atlantian]

i dunno why people even start these threads, i wouldn't mine to save my life, its extremely boring and i don't have the time do to it, i prefer to pay gold for the ingots i need and the people that script doing this provide a service that i have no problem with. If someone is trying to mine the legit way to compete with scripters in selling ingots, just give up and make gold elsewhere

I personally do not mine for gold purposes. And if you prefer to buy ingots that is your choice. I think fighting peerless is boring but thats me. And those people that are scripting are NOT providing a service. They are cheating and thats the bottom line. You may not have a problem with it but many of us that play legit do. If you want to cheat go back to playing xbox or playstation.

 

[Kazar]

I have a miner on atlantic and I don't like the mule scripters because they are in my way!

 

[Connor_Graham]

I just dropped by the vendor, and they've now changed the shop name of the vendor to "UHall Famous Vendor".

Nice to know they feel comfortable enough to thumb their noses at EA/Mythic...

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

I just dropped by the vendor, and they've now changed the shop name of the vendor to "UHall Famous Vendor".

Nice to know they feel comfortable enough to thumb their noses at EA/Mythic...

Actually, I think they are thumbing their nose at you.

Here is one more reason to play Siege. There are no safe facets for scripters to hide on...la

 

[Connor_Graham]

"Here is one more reason to play Siege."

You can come up with a million reasons to play Siege, but I only need 1 reason to play production shards.

1. Tram

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

I only need 1 reason to play production shards.

1. Tram

ROFLCOPTERS...la

 

[Limlight]

Hell, the only time I used a golem to train (ATTENDED), made me feel dirty for months, and I rarely use the character as building its lumberjacking that way still makes it "tainted" for me.

Did you ever use Power Hour to train or did you go to the Bone Knight room?

Those are basically the same thing...if those didnt make you feel dirty...dont know why Golems would...

just dropped by the vendor, and they've now changed the shop name of the vendor to "UHall Famous Vendor".

Nice to know they feel comfortable enough to thumb their noses at EA/Mythic...

Actually it could mean several things.

1. They are ripping you for making this thread...
2. They are praising you for doing what you basically did....advertised for them. I bet their traffic went up after your thread some people probably bought from them too.
3. Or they saw this thread and maybe posted in it even.

Either way, there is no way to tell if they cheated or not.

Unless you catch him Connor. Dont be placing blame.
I have an idea for you Connor.

If you really want to see if they script.
Do this.

Recall in one day with alot of regular wood tables.

Set them down in front of their doors and all around front yard.

If its a script. It wont pick up the tables and it will just stand there. lol

Or you could find where it recalls in...and place a table there everyday....

Or my favorite....herd a crap load of animals to its house...

 

[Beerman72]

Please Lock This ****** Strong Thread Already! I See More People Talking Of Breaking The Rules Than I See Anyone Actually Being Proved To Be Scripting!


Burn Them!!! Burn Them!!! Witches Each And Everyone!!!

 

[Connor_Graham]

"Unless you catch him Connor. Dont be placing blame."

You don't have to catch someone mining unattended to know that's what they're doing.

As has been said many times, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's most likely a duck.

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

Yes you do. To be honest, you've broken the RoC here by posting the image of that vendor and suggesting he is doing something against the rules...la

 

[Omnius]

Prior to the advent of scripting, I had roughly 3million iron ingots. It's really not an outrageous thing to have. Years of pking miners, hunting IDOCs, mining, and smelting armor from bone knights resulted in such a massive amount.

I never made any concerted effort to collect ingots beyond casual mining. I find it hard to believe that people don't think iron ingots would naturally cost 8-9gp when prior to scripters valorite sold for 40gp.

 

[Jay]

Is he on LS? i need some iron ingots....