OT: need help with stereo and hdmi

[Lorddog]

I just switched out my tv to have HDMI input and I have a stereo reciever (Onkyo RX-SR505) that has 2 hdmi inputs and 1 out. I hooked it up like this
hdmi input 1 = dvd
hdmi input 2 = cable hd box
hdmi output = tv

now I turned on the receiver and there is no sound output on the hdmi contents but there is on normal radio. I looked in my manual and it says

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Step 1: Connect your HDMI-compatible TV to the AV receiver’s HDMI OUT jack.
Step 2: Connect your HDMI-compatible player to the AV receiver’s HDMI IN 1 or 2 jack.
Step 3: Connect your HDMI-compatible player to an analog and/or digital audio input on the AV
receiver.
✽ Audio and video signals received via the HDMI IN 1 and 2 jacks are output by the HDMI OUT jack as they
are (HDMI pass-through), so even if you only make the connections in steps 1 and 2, your TV will output
sound. However, if you want to listen through the speakers connected to the AV receiver, in addition to an
HDMI connection, you’ll also need to make a separate analog or digital audio connection.
Step 4: Assign the HDMI IN.
Turn on the AV receiver, and then assign the HDMI IN (see page 38)

Audio and video signals received via the HDMI IN jacks are output only by the HDMI OUT.
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so I see with this receiver I have to run the audio for cable tv and dvd in seperate lines to hear them with my receiver speakers.

I have 2 questions
1) could I just run the audio out from the tv back to the stereo? at least that way I am only running 1 audio input into the stereo, and would this way cause the audio to be less as it is running threw the tv?

2) Is this a common problem or can I find another receiver that will allow speaker output while running hdmi (without the extra audio connection)

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side note. reason I got this tv is so I can get a playstation 3 blu ray to hook up and have it in full 1080 and also so my dvd upscaler will work (it wont upscale copy protected dvd's without using hdmi)

Lorddog

 

[Vortex]

Your receiver is a pass-thru HDMI audio receiver. For best performance you want a receiver with true HDMI surround sound audio. Pioneer has one.

That said, the audio is passively being sent to your TV. You will probably be able to send the audio from the TV back into the receiver. However, just because the receiver gets the audio does not mean you will hear it. Remember that the receiver has several inputs and outputs and if the HDMI inputs are active, it may not process the sound coming from the TV that is going into another input. There is no harm in trying, so go for it.

There might be a slight loss because you are likely going from digital audio (HDMI) to the TV (analog audio) then back into the receiver (depending on the type of output you have on TV and input on the receiver). You would be much better off running audio from the cable and from the dvd (using sp/dif if available).

 

[Lorddog]

what pioneer receiver? Do I have to search the manuals of every receiver to know whether it supports this?

pass through hdmi, now that I think about it, just doesnt make sense. why would I connect it to my receiver when I should just connect it straight to my tv??

thx for the answer.

Lorddog

 

[Skylark SP]

You might want to look at this article for general info on what to look for in a receiver. This part seems to be more specifically related to your receiver product and situation:

The first generation of HDMI-equipped receivers, such as the Onkyo TX-NR1000 and the Yamaha RX-V4600, kept the all-digital HDMI signals and the analog A/V signals (composite, S-Video, and even high-definition component) separate, so you'd be forced to run multiple cables to your HDTV and switch back and forth between inputs. Most newer HDMI-capable receivers include the ability to convert analog video input to digital, so everything is conveniently output through a single HDMI cable. But you'd be well advised to step up to a receiver that can handle...

I need to check my Yamaha receiver, as I am not sure what it supports. It was a big enough pain getting all the devices to work on the old specifications, I really don't want to bother with the high def stuff.

-Skylark

P.S. the article is 2 years old so there should be many more choices of receiver now.

 

[Skylark SP]

I could find no references to RX-SR505 but the specs for TX-SR505 state:

The Onkyo TX-SR505 is the entry model of their 2007 lineup of 7.1 channel A/V receivers with 75 Watts per channel that includes HDMI, and component video switching. There are 2 HDMI 1.3a pass-trough inputs supporting 1080p. There are also 3 component video inputs with 50 MHz bandwidth able to display 1080i and 720p video signals. This model does not support upconversion of video sources to either HDMI or component video outputs, and also requires a separate hookup for the audio portion of HDMI sources.

-Skylark