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OT: Call In Gay Today 12/10/2008

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Tycolby

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Did anyone have any employees or co workers call in today?

Would a Bi-sexual only call in half day today?

Do you all believe this was a valid statement to make given the state of the economy this month? With Businesses barely making now and a reduction in staffing might forces too many to close their doors and lose income to pay employees.

If America's gay community wanted to make a statement today maybe they should have all dressed in a certian fashion to proclaim their lifestyle on a national level.

But now its too late and mabye next time a little better leadership will promote their cause a little better than what happened today.
 

Duskofdead

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Did anyone have any employees or co workers call in today?

Would a Bi-sexual only call in half day today?

Do you all believe this was a valid statement to make given the state of the economy this month? With Businesses barely making now and a reduction in staffing might forces too many to close their doors and lose income to pay employees.

If America's gay community wanted to make a statement today maybe they should have all dressed in a certian fashion to proclaim their lifestyle on a national level.

But now its too late and mabye next time a little better leadership will promote their cause a little better than what happened today.

Your criticism of this statement overlooks how many people have already lost multiple jobs for being gay.

I could introduce you to a former U.S. military Arabic translator, if you like.

I think your criticism would be very wide-open to a response that you are implying gay people don't deserve recognition of their civil rights issues in terms of employment or discrimination in the workplace unless the economy is going great for heterosexuals.
 

Dragkiris

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I'm a big supporter of the call in gay thing. They should just stay in there houses and never leave. Period. Because I personally do not want perverts walking around on the street.
 

Viper09

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I'm a big supporter of the call in gay thing. They should just stay in there houses and never leave. Period. Because I personally do not want perverts walking around on the street.
So all gays are perverts? Dumbest post I've ever read.
 
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Kazumi the Wild

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I did not participate in "Call in Gay Today", because I work for a very small, very intimate business where my presence was needed.

When one's % of the population is as small as it appears to be (I don't believe Kinsley's 10% unless that includes a lot of 'questioning' and had-a-gay-experience-once crowd, but 2-6% rings reasonable to me), calling in "gay", while providing a noticable presence of gay people in the workplace, does not have the same impact that, say, illegal immigrants ceasing work entirely would (even in the long term, ala months).

I'm still curious about what the message is supposed to be: Are we trying to show that our presence would be missed, or are we trying to merely demonstrate our presence throughout society by a lack thereof on a certain day?

I also rarely, if ever, participate in the Day of Silence. In theory, it is in support of those that can't express their sexuality without horrible consequences befalling them. In practice, its something of a "hey, look, gay people exist, see?" It also doesn't help that many participants don't actually eschew communication, merely the verbal aspects thereof - while internet anonymity helps, the whole point of Day of Silence is a demonstration of ISOLATION, which is entirely negated when you're ASL signing to your best friend, texting them on your phone, or chatting with them on IM. When I've participated, it's been with the demonstration of isolation in mind - I avoid contact, provide the little printed cards explaining the event, and actually perform SILENCE in its intended form.

The gay community is problematically isolated, in many ways, from mainstream culture, and even a little bit of "but why?" can sometimes lead to outspoken critics of the current methods employed being ostracised. It's the same sort of mentality of "if you aren't in lockstep, you're the enemy" mentality one sees from political parties (both, in my opinion, though i do lean Democrat for at least pretending to care about our community) that I find so distasteful.

That said, I'm curious how many people actually noticed Day Without a Gay. Were you aware it was going to happen? Was the number of people missing noticable on a "wow, that's unusual" scale, or just "huh, must be a virus going around" level? Were the people missing those who you expected? Did anyone effectively come out of the closet through this exercise?

Side note: Unless you saw me at a gay event or with a gaggle of gay friends, most people wouldn't guess I'm queer as can be. This is the case, I think, for a majority of gay people I know. Anyone who thinks the gay community consists entirely, or even with a majority, of the stereotyped Jack-from-Will-and-Grace campy queens is seriously mistaken.

Side side note: Not that there's anything wrong with being flamboyant. Some of the most entertaining friends of mine (and a fair share of lovers) have been so, and are generally wonderful human beings, at least at a rate on par with the rest of humanity.
 
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slavoie

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Don't mind if I do comment...

I personally do not agree with Gay, period, sorry that's how I feel, and since nobody asked me, this is not directed tword anybody.

You will also never hear me tell another human being that they dont have the same right to live, breath, feel, bleed, hurt as anybody else.

So while I do not agree, I am governed by a higher command to "Love everyone".

The issue of calling into work to make a statement is about as juvenile as they get. When you accept employment you do so on the terms of the employer, and if the employer wants to offer any specific day off as part of their employement arangement with their employee that's fine. If you as an individual want to use a personal day on any specific day, that's fine. When the day is taken without permission and to make a statement for any reason, you are choosing yourself as greater then your employment. It's really to bad that "employment" would not choose to fire a person for that type of behavior. The problem in this situation is the person might say "I got fired because I was gay" which would scare the employer just enough not to do it.

We might wonder why our entire economy and social fiber is tanking, well I would submit to everybody that it's straight up selfishness. Point your finger at someone and check out the 3 that are pointing right back at you.
 

Jagdwulfe

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I called in Pervert but the Gay community told me they did not want me support since I am only interested in 18yr old Goth Girls. :(
 
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Kazumi the Wild

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I called in Pervert but the Gay community told me they did not want me support since I am only interested in 18yr old Goth Girls. :(
You'd have to be into ones 17 or younger, bud. :D

Kidding, kidding.
 
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Kazumi the Wild

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Indeed! And 10 will get you a job as a priest running Sunday School.

*ducks*
 
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