[Stealing] OK, why can't I steal anything?

[Mac]

Howdy folks, I know I'm doing something wrong (obviously), but I can't steal even a 1 stone item from my llama while standing in a bldg in Buc's Den. Tried pouches (1 stone), bags (2 stone) and backpack (3 stone). Bought up my stealing to 32.1. Figured to try the training macro below to train, and I can't get the macro to make a difference either. What am I missing? I just know it's something that if it was closer, it would slap me in the face.


1. Put an empty container in your pack animal.

2.Open your pack animals pack and open the empty container.

3.EC>Actions>Object Targeting>Store Default Object 1 (I put this on a hotbar.)

4.Left click "Store Default Object 1" and select the open empty container in your pack animals pack.

5.Put 10 (or 100) of the item you wish to steal in the open empty container. I chose scepters since they weight 8 stones, but you can change it up as needed.

Macro:

1.EC>Actions>Object Targeting>Target Default Object 1 (this will target your chosen container in your packy's pack.

2.EC>Actions>Targeting>Target First Item (this will target the first item in your chosen container, ie scepter 1)

3.Skill>Stealing (Cursor Target)

4.EC>Actions>Cursor Targeting>Waitfortarg

5.EC>Actions>Cursor Targeting>Cursor Target Current

6.EC>Actions>Other>Delay (10s)

7.Enable Repeat

8.Repeat = 10

 

[Dol'Gorath]

Howdy folks, I know I'm doing something wrong (obviously), but I can't steal even a 1 stone item from my llama while standing in a bldg in Buc's Den. Tried pouches (1 stone), bags (2 stone) and backpack (3 stone). Bought up my stealing to 32.1. Figured to try the training macro below to train, and I can't get the macro to make a difference either. What am I missing? I just know it's something that if it was closer, it would slap me in the face.


1. Put an empty container in your pack animal.

2.Open your pack animals pack and open the empty container.

3.EC>Actions>Object Targeting>Store Default Object 1 (I put this on a hotbar.)

4.Left click "Store Default Object 1" and select the open empty container in your pack animals pack.

5.Put 10 (or 100) of the item you wish to steal in the open empty container. I chose scepters since they weight 8 stones, but you can change it up as needed.

Macro:

1.EC>Actions>Object Targeting>Target Default Object 1 (this will target your chosen container in your packy's pack.

2.EC>Actions>Targeting>Target First Item (this will target the first item in your chosen container, ie scepter 1)

3.Skill>Stealing (Cursor Target)

4.EC>Actions>Cursor Targeting>Waitfortarg

5.EC>Actions>Cursor Targeting>Cursor Target Current

6.EC>Actions>Other>Delay (10s)

7.Enable Repeat

8.Repeat = 10

Probably a silly question, but are you in Trammel or Felucca? I know when training stealing in the past I would do it in Fel cause Trammel won't let you steal even from a pet you own.

You mentioned you were in Bucs but not which facet.

 

[Mac]

Well, I took the gate in Brit, clicked on Fell, then Buc's shows up (it's not on the list for Tram), so I'm hoping that Buc's Den is only a part of Fell. I hope so anyways....Well, just checked the Wiki..
Buccaneer’s Den
A pair of lawless isles, one in Felucca, one in Trammel.

I did click on Fell before activating the gate for Buc's, so I have to say I was in Fell.

 

[Dol'Gorath]

Well, I took the gate in Brit, clicked on Fell, then Buc's shows up (it's not on the list for Tram), so I'm hoping that Buc's Den is only a part of Fell. I hope so anyways....Well, just checked the Wiki..
Buccaneer’s Den
A pair of lawless isles, one in Felucca, one in Trammel.

I did click on Fell before activating the gate for Buc's, so I have to say I was in Fell.

Are you getting any error messages hinting at why you are unable to steal 1 stone items?

Are you commanding the pack horse to guard you?

 

[Nonel]

You can't steal containers, if that's what you were trying to do. Not 100% sure if I read the post right. Still on first cup of coffee.

 

[MeTheGreat]

What am I missing?

5.Put 10 (or 100) of the item you wish to steal in the open empty container. I chose scepters since they weight 8 stones, but you can change it up as needed.

If memory serves, stealing has to do with the weight of the object you are trying to steal.
Start with lighter weight objects.

From UOguide [Stealing - UOGuide, the Ultima Online Encyclopedia]:
To train, place the specified weight of items on the pack animal and attempt to steal them. No matter whether you fail, succeed, or only steal part of the pile, take the remaining items and restack them. Pull out a new stack of the appropriate weight and put it on the pack animal. Steal again.

Skill Interval	30 - 40	40 - 50	50 - 60	60 - 70	70 - 80	80 - 90	90 - 100	100 - 110	110 - 120
Weight to aim	3 stones	4 stones	5 stones	6 stones	7 stones	8 stones	9 stones	10 stones	11 stones

 

[Mac]

Thx folks for the input.

I did try 1, 2, and 3 stone items. I was getting an error saying that "you cannot steal that" and I took it to be something I was doing wrong, well, I surely was doing something wrong, lol.

Well hell, containers??, I can't steal empty containers? Well, I'll be logging on shortly to use something other than the bags, pouches and backpacks I was trying to use. Geeez, is it gonna be that easy?

Well, as I said, thanks folks for the help, I'll let ya'll know what happen after I log in and use something other than containers, and make sure I'm using the correct weight.

 

[Nero]

Did you join the thief guild? Have to find an NPC thief guild master to join. Not sure if this is required to steal from your pack animal, but worth a try.

 

[Mac]

Howdy folks,

I wanna thank ya'll for the assist.

Nonel, you were correct. As soon as I switched to anything that was not a container, I was stealing and gaining.

I want to add something, when I went from 3 stones to 4 stones I left the llama where I was training, went to Tram, grabbed fifty 4 stone items and went back. Made the changes I had to make to the macro, and couldn't steal. I got the error of "the creature stopped me from stealing". Well, I did remember that when you get that error, it means your in Tram, but there I was in Buc's. I thought about it for a few, had the llama follow me back to Tram (kinda for a reset), and then went back to Buc's and everything work as it was supposed. Some how me going to Tram affected the llama. Once he re-entered Fel, all was well.

Again, thanks all, see ya all in Doom.

 

[Dol'Gorath]

Howdy folks,

I wanna thank ya'll for the assist.

Nonel, you were correct. As soon as I switched to anything that was not a container, I was stealing and gaining.

I want to add something, when I went from 3 stones to 4 stones I left the llama where I was training, went to Tram, grabbed fifty 4 stone items and went back. Made the changes I had to make to the macro, and couldn't steal. I got the error of "the creature stopped me from stealing". Well, I did remember that when you get that error, it means your in Tram, but there I was in Buc's. I thought about it for a few, had the llama follow me back to Tram (kinda for a reset), and then went back to Buc's and everything work as it was supposed. Some how me going to Tram affected the llama. Once he re-entered Fel, all was well.

Again, thanks all, see ya all in Doom.

Argh I knew that! I guess it's been a while I overlooked that you trying to steal containers was the problem. Glad you were able to get that solved and can now continue with your training. =]

 

[Mac]

Cool Beans, up to 85 at this point, not too much longer (fingers crossed). BTW, I forgot to do this at the start. The macro I'm using is located here Targeted stealing macro
Thanks to Arroth_Thaiel for posting it.

 

[TheGrimReefer]

Stop stealing items and use piles of gold. As you steal from your packy, you will only steal what your skill will allow you in stones gaining stealing quickly

 

[Nonel]

I disagree with the stealing of stackables. Stealing properly weighted individual items works better. I can't say that for sure, I suppose. Just my experience. Stackables never worked well for me. Its not consistent in the weight it tries to take and throws off your gains, imo