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Official In-Game Vendor Item Search
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shulginist
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That was the whole point behind this thread until you derailed it a few times. Now that we are back on course...
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RavenWinterHawk
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Ok back on track.
Re: Official In-Game Item Search
It sure does. But it does not bring new players to the game.
Where is the long term positive impact to all this action that some people in this thread want? Auto marking of runes? Constant reviewing of all vendors in sosaria?
How about revamping of the lands like T2A or Tokuno or the SA areas? Lets finish or get the rest up to snuff so we might be able to offer someing to get new blood into the game. It seems like alot of people forget that the current player base is limited at best and we could do with stuff that makes the current offering attractive. Granted a vendor search is handy but really lets just use these moron's whom do it for us. Don't buy their crappy gold and items and steal the information for goodness sakes.
How about revamping of the lands like T2A or Tokuno or the SA areas? Lets finish or get the rest up to snuff so we might be able to offer someing to get new blood into the game. It seems like alot of people forget that the current player base is limited at best and we could do with stuff that makes the current offering attractive. Granted a vendor search is handy but really lets just use these moron's whom do it for us. Don't buy their crappy gold and items and steal the information for goodness sakes.
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Sevin0oo0
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Rune ideal - Remember a while back, the exploit of runebooks spawning runes to be sold? No generated item for Free, maybe 50-100gp per rune? or just make 'em walk there - get' em up & moving - good exercise.
db update - How often?
Opt-out?
access is web based, or in game?
db update - How often?
Opt-out?
access is web based, or in game?
1. It should be web based. Not in-game. There's no needs for it to be ingame. And it will just add the potential for additional bugs. Why take the chance
2. I should be able to get an ID or something and buy a rune to the vendor house that way from a NPC merchant house - Like that shop in brit. I think 10k is a very reasonable sale - Or provide coordinates for the cheapies.
3. It should be searchable in detail - scan for individual stats, item name, shard, facet, etc.
4. Needs to update at LEAST 4 times a day. Maybe even hourly?
5. No gold charges for listing a vendor. Vendors are in - keep it simple. Complexity introduces bugs. Besides - the vendors are already paying a fee to have an item on a shop anyway.
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2. I should be able to get an ID or something and buy a rune to the vendor house that way from a NPC merchant house - Like that shop in brit. I think 10k is a very reasonable sale - Or provide coordinates for the cheapies.
3. It should be searchable in detail - scan for individual stats, item name, shard, facet, etc.
4. Needs to update at LEAST 4 times a day. Maybe even hourly?
5. No gold charges for listing a vendor. Vendors are in - keep it simple. Complexity introduces bugs. Besides - the vendors are already paying a fee to have an item on a shop anyway.
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These threads are getting tiresome.
Does Messana need a link to the search sites. I think she can google them.
If they are not willing to implement the same system that is used by the illegal search sites then they need to not waste their time. Why make anything that is less useful than what is already there?
I want an advanced search system that tells me where and item is that will recall me there for a small fee. I do not want a rune. I do not want coordinates where I have to get out my map and my sextant. I want it easy because I'm lazy and when I need something I don't consider it fun to have to use 2 seperate systems to do what one can do.
I don't know what disgusts me more; Not being able to resist posting in these absurd threads or the weak arguments posted by those opposed to it. Dog forbid a mechant has to relearn his trade or give up their current advantage on the game.
Does Messana need a link to the search sites. I think she can google them.
If they are not willing to implement the same system that is used by the illegal search sites then they need to not waste their time. Why make anything that is less useful than what is already there?
I want an advanced search system that tells me where and item is that will recall me there for a small fee. I do not want a rune. I do not want coordinates where I have to get out my map and my sextant. I want it easy because I'm lazy and when I need something I don't consider it fun to have to use 2 seperate systems to do what one can do.
I don't know what disgusts me more; Not being able to resist posting in these absurd threads or the weak arguments posted by those opposed to it. Dog forbid a mechant has to relearn his trade or give up their current advantage on the game.
Whatever dev made that comment about protecting real estate value should be fired.
Vendor search needs to be more powerful and more useful than what exists currently on search sites. Not just in the breadth of it's searches but in it's convenience and presentation.
Crippling it with goldsinks and making people run around with a sextant (in order to appease people who don't want it implemented at all) will just sabotage it and leave the economy in the hands of a few guys with Luna vendors.
Let Wenchkin opt out if she wants. I look forward to a repeat of this thread when some mean reseller finds her anyway and griefs her by purchasing her products.
Vendor search needs to be more powerful and more useful than what exists currently on search sites. Not just in the breadth of it's searches but in it's convenience and presentation.
Crippling it with goldsinks and making people run around with a sextant (in order to appease people who don't want it implemented at all) will just sabotage it and leave the economy in the hands of a few guys with Luna vendors.
Let Wenchkin opt out if she wants. I look forward to a repeat of this thread when some mean reseller finds her anyway and griefs her by purchasing her products.
Re: Official In-Game Item Search
or stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just use what is already available, no charge, no lag...
no, i don't work for them... I just acknowledge that it has become part of the game as we know it.
what i said in post #2. Someone already figured out exactly what we want. Just ask them...
or stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just use what is already available, no charge, no lag...
no, i don't work for them... I just acknowledge that it has become part of the game as we know it.
Raven, go to the other thread and stop spamming here.
It should have the following features
- Default is indexed, but possible to opt out (for guild vendors and others)
- Players can search on both name and a multitude of attributes.
- Like search for conjurers trinket or search for 2+ Faster Casting 2+ Mana Regeneration ring etc.
- Clicking on the item brings up a menu that shows the location and buttons to either Recall, Gate or Sacred Journey to the signpost of the vendor
Please for the love of god, don't make it so you have to travel manually to the vendor, that takes ages and takes out the fun of the game.
It should have the following features
- Default is indexed, but possible to opt out (for guild vendors and others)
- Players can search on both name and a multitude of attributes.
- Like search for conjurers trinket or search for 2+ Faster Casting 2+ Mana Regeneration ring etc.
- Clicking on the item brings up a menu that shows the location and buttons to either Recall, Gate or Sacred Journey to the signpost of the vendor
Please for the love of god, don't make it so you have to travel manually to the vendor, that takes ages and takes out the fun of the game.
Holy cow, Raven! You don't need to go emo ape**** over this topic... lol's
I don't see what the big deal about a shard wide vendor search would be... Everyone could sell their wares, everyone would make money and everyone would be happy.
What is your problem with those that "control the market?" If that's what they like to do... so be it. I will still make my profit off selling them the items. In the end.. that's what it's all about. I made my money and they will make theirs.
Another comment about your gold sink. Why does their need to be a gold sink? There is already a hefty vendor charge for having high priced items. Also, if they were to institute an auction type system, I'm sure the house would take 5-10% of the cost. There's your gold sink right there. Also, another gold sink in itself is the fact that many many many more people would have vendors. If your vendor is viewable anywhere, people in the furthest reaches of the land are going to be placing vendors paying vendor fee's and rentals.
I think shard wide vendor search/auction house system is a great idea. More wares for sale, cheaper prices, always something to buy. Everyone wins.
I don't see what the big deal about a shard wide vendor search would be... Everyone could sell their wares, everyone would make money and everyone would be happy.
What is your problem with those that "control the market?" If that's what they like to do... so be it. I will still make my profit off selling them the items. In the end.. that's what it's all about. I made my money and they will make theirs.
Another comment about your gold sink. Why does their need to be a gold sink? There is already a hefty vendor charge for having high priced items. Also, if they were to institute an auction type system, I'm sure the house would take 5-10% of the cost. There's your gold sink right there. Also, another gold sink in itself is the fact that many many many more people would have vendors. If your vendor is viewable anywhere, people in the furthest reaches of the land are going to be placing vendors paying vendor fee's and rentals.
I think shard wide vendor search/auction house system is a great idea. More wares for sale, cheaper prices, always something to buy. Everyone wins.
Well ma'am, you may have all day to search the lands of Britannia to give those of us who don't live in Luna a chance to set up vendors and sell stuff. Others, however, may not have the patience or time to travel and do this. By creating a system similar to the chat system; players could be able to place vendors where ever they may live and not have to worry about spamming at the bank, marking a ridiculous amount of runes, or owning a gate house. Let's keep it simplified here please.
Also, to explain an idea of how this system may be implemented, it would go as follows:
1. The system would be a simple search engine.
2. You can only type in the name of the item you are searching for.
3. The search engine will then compile all related searches for that single item.
4. This search engine would collect and update the information about the items at server down.
5. The search engine could list only certain properties. Such as item name, properties and location. (no pic needed)
Hopefully this wouldn't be too much of a task to apprehend considering those who have created the "Illegal Search" can do it and have made it much more detailed and complicated.
LMAO. Everyone wins... except resellers whose playstyle is ripping off newbies and returning vets.
God I hate garbage posts like this. Yeah gee, running through the forest clicking a sextant over and over sounds like SO much fun. How will the game EVER do without it?Yeah, Bo forbid that you actually have to play the game to play the game.
Look, why don't you just get on your horse and ride off into the woods? Click random vendors, kill an ettin, what the hell ever. Have fun. But quit trying to **** up vital economic game functions with your BS love of random wandering.
youd want extensive filters and subfilters...
Deco
Weapons
Armor
Rares
Bods
Commodities
Powerscrolls
filter them based on price.. etc
as an example, you could click armor... which would filter down into Metal/Leather/Stone... further filter into armor types... or you could start your search with a property your looking for, and then filter thru all the items with that property
Deco
Weapons
Armor
Rares
Bods
Commodities
Powerscrolls
filter them based on price.. etc
as an example, you could click armor... which would filter down into Metal/Leather/Stone... further filter into armor types... or you could start your search with a property your looking for, and then filter thru all the items with that property
LMAO. Grief shopping...Yeah, I'm terrified...I'd be more worried about the welfare of the resellers actually. I might be tempted to break my no PKing customers rule when they turn up with loaded packhorses
Still, I'm sure your attitude will make an impression with the devs and help your cause... Or not.
Wenchy
God I hate garbage posts like this. Yeah gee, running through the forest clicking a sextant over and over sounds like SO much fun. How will the game EVER do without it?Yeah, Bo forbid that you actually have to play the game to play the game.
Look, why don't you just get on your horse and ride off into the woods? Click random vendors, kill an ettin, what the hell ever. Have fun. But quit trying to **** up vital economic game functions with your BS love of random wandering.
Test center, that way ------>
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UOKaiser
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Hey we don't rip of newbies or returning vets. Returning vets will know how to get there own items or make the gold to get anything they want and newbies should be out there trying to hunt,gather,skill up pretty much play the game instead of buying from us. We cater only to other resellers and the majority of wealthy players which outnumber the poor players. We are not interested in selling 1 cc or 1 deed of 60k iron we are only interested in selling 50 deeds of 60k iron or a dozen cincture. We don't make gold by the profit of just 1 item we only make gold by the difference of the purchase price to the selling price in large amounts. Having 5 items with a profit of 20k each is only 100k. Having 100 items with profit of 20k each is 2mil.
The ones that makes the most money out of our reselling is the suppliers the players that are out there gathering items for us like newbies who are out there getting items to sell for us giving them 100% profit per item which in turn we sell the the wealthy vets for a small 5-10% profit.
Yeah, because that's how commercial MMO development works. You pore over the forums (when they're not crippled by database errors) where a bunch of illiterate nimrods manage to botch their understanding of even the most elementary concepts of economics, software design, or whatever else is being discussed.
Then you don't just look at the ideas and carefully consider their merits before deciding what changes to enact on your multimillion dollar MMO. Oh no, you rate the ideas based upon how polite their proponents are to their counterparts.
"I was going to put in a vendor search system, but the Skrag sure is a meany! Hurrr!"
Yeah that's a responsible way to manage a serious commerical project. Glad you think so highly of the developers.