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Ron Silverbeard

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After a 10 Minute fight GD vs this Revenant, and with his last undead breaths, he called for his friends who can open doors....needless to say OOoooooOOOOoooo...

This not serious...Dev's...realy?

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After a 10 Minute fight GD vs this Revenant, and with his last undead breaths, he called for his friends who can open doors....needless to say OOoooooOOOOoooo...

This not serious...Dev's...realy?

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Anything over 120 magery is pointless,but the other skills...no wonder they are hard to hit.
 

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thats freaking impressive skills!

i know where im going tonight to cut my teeth!
 

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Anything over 120 magery is pointless,but the other skills...no wonder they are hard to hit.
not quite true, mind blast deals damage based on the users magery & int levels instead of eval, so this would, if they cast mind blast, cause the damage to be even higher (not sure if they do but there's other mobs with high magery like them that do)
 

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not quite true, mind blast deals damage based on the users magery & int levels instead of eval, so this would, if they cast mind blast, cause the damage to be even higher (not sure if they do but there's other mobs with high magery like them that do)
Would "diminishing return" apply in this case with sdi? *scratches head*
 

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I believe Pinco was the first to discover LVL 4 creatures that spawned up to 160 in skills. The intention of this dungeon, IMO, was to create hard hitting, faster than normal mobs that maintained low base hit points but became gradually more difficult to fight based on their resistances and skill levels, which, if the case, was a direct response to the players' reaction regarding the HP-dense mobs of Shame.
 

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Why so had a Time I had and have no problems in there unless you get in the mix of to many creatures. One on one with w greater they go down easy. I am sorry but if you cannot kill only one with a greater you are doing something wrong. I have found nothing too hard in level 3 or 4 of Covetous dungeon out of the realm of the greated drag to handle other than raw numbers can overwhelm you.

I did notice that the critters on three and the ones on 4 are the same name but are considerably harder on 4. Many more HP, hit harder etc loot not scaled to match. I find it much more benificial to just kill the ones on three for reward is much better than risk involved.

Also noticed that Ethereal Voyage doesn't work against the Covetous Wyrm.
 

Ron Silverbeard

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Why so had a Time I had and have no problems in there unless you get in the mix of to many creatures. One on one with w greater they go down easy. I am sorry but if you cannot kill only one with a greater you are doing something wrong. I have found nothing too hard in level 3 or 4 of Covetous dungeon out of the realm of the greated drag to handle other than raw numbers can overwhelm you.

I did notice that the critters on three and the ones on 4 are the same name but are considerably harder on 4. Many more HP, hit harder etc loot not scaled to match. I find it much more benificial to just kill the ones on three for reward is much better than risk involved.

Also noticed that Ethereal Voyage doesn't work against the Covetous Wyrm.
Well, i lured it into a room to have a 1 on 1 and it went realy well, just took some time to bring its health down and my drag ran into stamina problems...it was my first encounter with this cirtter...but than, as i said, it called its friends, a liche spawned and one of those ghostly forms, i was standing next to my drag to heal him with bandaids, went into hiding, they went after him, all cool i thought, until the liches aura damaged me, revealed me...and...tried to recal out but had no chance...

1 on 1 they are not so bad but as you said, it gets tricky if other mobs overrun you...

So i just set my drag in follow mode now, hide, stealth up to the backyard of level 3 where this higher level critters spawn "torture room?" open the door and lead them out of there to the entrance (first warning the peeps if there are any so they dont get surprised) ...this works fine ;)
 

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Anything over 120 magery is pointless,but the other skills...no wonder they are hard to hit.
Nope. The higher the Magery, the harder their Poison is to resist.

not quite true, mind blast deals damage based on the users magery & int levels instead of eval, so this would, if they cast mind blast, cause the damage to be even higher (not sure if they do but there's other mobs with high magery like them that do)
There are no mobs anymore that cast Mind Blast. They haven't cast that in a VERY long time.
 

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Nope. The higher the Magery, the harder their Poison is to resist.


There are no mobs anymore that cast Mind Blast. They haven't cast that in a VERY long time.
Faction guards cast mind blast.....It's annoying too since they tend to bunch up, you'll run offscreen and be insta-killed by like 10 mindblasts at once well after you saw them.
 

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Sheesh... and people wonder why us oldtimers just don't go there amymore.
Wonder how long till all the old dungeons are off-limits to us that don't do the Pay to Win game?
 

Ron Silverbeard

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Why so had a Time I had and have no problems in there unless you get in the mix of to many creatures. One on one with w greater they go down easy. I am sorry but if you cannot kill only one with a greater you are doing something wrong. I have found nothing too hard in level 3 or 4 of Covetous dungeon out of the realm of the greated drag to handle other than raw numbers can overwhelm you.

I did notice that the critters on three and the ones on 4 are the same name but are considerably harder on 4. Many more HP, hit harder etc loot not scaled to match. I find it much more benificial to just kill the ones on three for reward is much better than risk involved.

Also noticed that Ethereal Voyage doesn't work against the Covetous Wyrm.
I am honestly inviting you to come with me to Level 4 Covetous and show me how easy you take down one of this critters one on one with your GD or any other char...we have been there yesterdays with 4 GD's and took on this critters - some took us more than 10 mins or even longer to take down - 4 people with 4 GD's - the Ogres do easy retarget too so only ranged healing is possible...

Let me learn how you do it pls. Oh, and i am NOT COMPLAINING Dev's - can stay like that - just remove the BUG if they die on the stairs you cant loot them (or if YOU die on the stairs you have to log out and in to get your stuff)

BTW: TITAN ROCKHURLER FTW!!!

LizardmanWitchdoctorLevel4.JPG OgreBonesrusherLevel4.JPG OrcFootSoldierLevel4.JPG RatmanAssassinLevel4.JPG TitanRockhurlerLevel4.JPG
 

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I am honestly inviting you to come with me to Level 4 Covetous and show me how easy you take down one of this critters
Was the loot at least better than normal? I just did a few LVL 3 guys w/ 850 luck on my mystic and never got anything better than Lesser Artifact. I can get that off of LVL 1 Shame and it's a lot easier to farm relics there. Figure LVL 4 will be vastly harder and not worth the time given even the LVL 3 critters can pack a punch--at least with spell damage. I tell ya, took them forever to give the game spell-casting lizardmen, and boy are they tough when compared to other mages like rat mages or orc mages.
 

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Loot wasnt THAT good imo...
As i managed to lure all the critters into one room that auto-locks the prison cell door after a few, and they couldnt open the door (hint!) i got one Ogre Lord back to the stairs and reged up (was there on my not full LRC 2400 Luck Suit..) and let the Drag on it...not to mention it took forever to kill it, i got 3 arties out of the pack but all only to unravel - if you are after relics farming its not the place to be - but since there is a chance to get one of the new arties droped by killing these, its something else people try to farm them (and i say try because i have seen alot of peeps there trying to solo some of the critters and failed - i rez them later upstairs - i gave them a warning, but they cant hear! ;))
 

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i just came back from there on my disco tamer with a GD.
i had no trouble at all.
only things that gave me challenge was the Cov Rev's and the Bone Swordslingers.
but as long as i had them alone i had them dead in a minute or 2.
everything in there is disco-able so that makes them die faster.

all in all, fun!

when it got bad was when a crowd would form, then all bets where out the window, haha
 

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Let me learn how you do it pls. Oh, and i am NOT COMPLAINING Dev's - can stay like that - just remove the BUG if they die on the stairs you cant loot them (or if YOU die on the stairs you have to log out and in to get your stuff)
That's been around since UO launch, happens SOOO often on the snowbanks in T2A also. Has to do with the way a body lands on the stairs making it sometimes unlootable, If you have a small amount of magery (or are human and have scrolls) a workaround you can do until whichever decade they start fixing bugs in is use telekinesis, it opens the body and pops it out makign it lootable.
 

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but since there is a chance to get one of the new arties droped by killing these, its something else people try to farm them
hmmm....like how the 10th anny items work? btw, I posted about hiding/10th anny a few ago. turns out you can get 10th anny drops off the covetous monsters while you're invised, haha. could have sworn they made it so you had to be visible, but maybe it's just near the mob when it dies.
 

Ron Silverbeard

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yes like the 10th anniversary items drop..and yes they drop even you hidden...got some by defending the pool and hunt any kind of monsters there...but than, who realy needs em ;)
 

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i just came back from there on my disco tamer with a GD.
i had no trouble at all.
only things that gave me challenge was the Cov Rev's and the Bone Swordslingers.
but as long as i had them alone i had them dead in a minute or 2.
everything in there is disco-able so that makes them die faster.

all in all, fun!

when it got bad was when a crowd would form, then all bets where out the window, haha
Txs Poo, so disco ftw...
 

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yes like the 10th anniversary items drop..and yes they drop even you hidden...got some by defending the pool and hunt any kind of monsters there...but than, who realy needs em ;)
I think only useful for turn-in (Clean Up Brit) now :)
 

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I should really spend more time doing Covetous, I just haven't had the motivation really. I do really like the new glasses from there, but just fighting the monsters there and did some void pool, and just felt the results were less than spectacular. Ofcourse I am liking that Shame is much more empty and I can get nummies much more freely : D
 

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. could have sworn they made it so you had to be visible, but maybe it's just near the mob when it dies.
Nah, invising or hiding just decreases the chance of a drop on the 10th anniv ones.
 

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On the back side of Level 3, South/West, were you have the stairs down to Level 4 were all of this high critters spawn, you also can use the empty rooms for farming unravel items...ans sometimes you even get some nice practice gear or PvM gear, like this 101 resist Tunic - with a high luck suit you get average 1 arit to unravel each kill and they go down fast - i even think its much more easier now to get stuff to unravel for relic fraqs from covetous than shame or wrong...i get like 40/hour without any problems..

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i am NOT COMPLAINING Dev's
ok, I will... Thanks for the pictures, whatever they got, I don't think I need.
What's the difference in having 40,000-50,000 Hit Points with normal resists OR having only 3000-5000 hp, but 97% in all resists???
I had great hopes for Cove, but now... <insert sound of snake dieing>
 

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Oh boy a new batch of supermonsters to farm Shame Garbage off of. You know, the elaborate new loot system that nobody really cares about because it all gets ground up into relic fragments anyway.
 

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The devs fixation on giving us supermonsters and failing to incentivize anything properly just means they keep adding content and I keep banksitting. I'm not grinding away on monsters like those listed here for the sort of garbage there is to be had.
 

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Sampires work well on L3? I might have to dust mine off then...
I'd guess yes and no (t's a untested guess going entirely off a quick run though to see what was up there on TC1), a samp in wraith form will have the mana to chain AI (with those resists and hp no other attacks will really matter) but the hit chance is still suck, without someone discording it for you you'll still have a crappy time, honor won't be terribly useful without diso either.
 

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i know that stats look bad on most of those, but with the exception of the cov rev and the bone bladeswinger the other mobs are really just pushovers.

i wish i could make some videos and put them up on youtube.... but they really arnt that bad!

ill go back in and have a whirl of them again, maybe i was missing some of the higher end ones.
 

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I will share with you one trick I have used "Dryad Allure" you end up with a VERY powerful pet. I use gift of life, attunement, gift of renewal and a peace bard and fail a lot but its worth it. If you charm an orge that has the area effect stay out of range cause even when its charmed the area effect hits everyone.
 
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The devs fixation on giving us supermonsters and failing to incentivize anything properly
I'm w/ ya on this. Many have asked for inflation control, I think this is it. If gold becomes harder to get, the negative inflation is bandaged. I'm good for quite a while I think, for gold, so I'm not too affected. What Does affect me is long hard grinds are not fun, more grinds, less fun. I think it'll hit a point between control and the easy button, where some will just stop playing.
 
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