No. Sorry. Don't put words in my mouth. I NEVER said everyone should be PvPing at all. The OP has learned now that through that passage is a PvP zone and has a choice if they want to go back there or not. Nobody is forcing them to PvP. Them running in there and getting ganked is not PvP, it is getting PKed which is very different.
Actually in a way thats not a bad idea if there was something like the sword and shield that tells you when you are in combat mode ! maybe something like this would work ! while I think you are kidding about the pvm gump I actually think this would be a good idea ! then we could ditch the music and the tree foliage !
Nope, not kidding at all. If people are basing the argument for having a PvP gump on it conflicting with their play style (being forced to PvP), then why is it unreasonable for us PvPers to have something that tells us we will be forced to PvM?
its not unreasonable I actually think this would be great ! I can tell you right now it would get rid of a lot of these posts like this then there would be no excuse except for not paying attention!
Play with the Monitor off too? Your Cursor changes from Gold to Silver when you enter Felucca rule set also...
nobody is being forced to pvp, it's that the warnings are not quite as clear as everyone expected... that's the issue here
If there are to be warnings that you are (possibly) about to PvP then I don't think it is unreasonable that there be warnings that you are about to PvM.
I am beginning to wonder if you know those pkers or something? You just seem so emotional about this post, its getting kinda personal. I mean you have to refute everyone's point. You even went to the extremes of starting another post.
True Britannian: Hey Mr!!
Last time i checked luna the bank sitter are 90%"hard core PvP's from fel" or so they claim anyways
He he, I am gonna remember that one and if the Mouth Piece, that perma camps the Luna Bank, starts his rant again I am gonna use it.
*Applause*
Appearances can be deceiving and that is a two edged sword.
The above quote of Draconi, stating there would be warnings, was in a thread that was about an interview with Chris and some one else, were Chris call the Trammel players, pause for effect (and acknowledgment that it is a slur) Care Bears and the fact that UO is going to be returned to the wild, free for all days of UO.
Be careful talking bad about pvp ! I would elaborate but I would just get censored!
Except of course for the fact that he's expecting things to work as the devs said, and for there to be some specific, explicit warning before he passes into Felucca. The same way there is for any other kind of passage into Felucca.
This is bull there should be some warning message like are you sure you want to leave the safety of Tram and enter the dangers of Fel or something like that if you click no you don't enter and stay in tram if you click yes you enter Fel that would be fair enough warning for anyone.
nothing to add, cept 'quoted for truth'. this needs to be read and re-read by all the pvpers.
*reads Draconi's statement that it will be clearly marked when entering the champ spawn areas*
Oh, you mean that same one as the bug that sounds every time the UO day changes from night to day and back if you happen to have a char that it's stuck on? Also, do you never listen to music while playing?
In the nearly 5 yrs I've been playing UO and going from Tram to Fel and back, not once have I ever seen my cursor change colors.
Since it was very clearly stated that there were to be very clearly marked entrances to the champ spawns and there aren't, I'd say it's 100% the Dev team's fault (includes everyone so as not to shoot the messenger) for not doing what they specifically said they were going to. No player should be expected to beta test every feature in the game the first time they go somewhere. If someone official states a thing is supposed to work a specific way and it doesn't when it's released, then that's either an unintentional oversight or a bug. Whichever it happens to be, it's on the Dev team for not following through, not the player for expecting something to work as stated.
Again, Mr Know It All, it could of been a bunch of teenage kids or younger that have been playing for a year or less...way to go chachi with your knowledgeable ways.
People need to remember the bolded point.
Then you need to read and re-reread my post to him.
That's it? That's your whole theory and purpose for posting? Every single person here has seen the old "I have some armor you can have at my house, come through this red gate!" trick. Every single person here has seen someone form a guild and recruit newbs just to kill them at the bank for no reason.
I would just say that a sound warning is not enough and what happened is not the OP's fault. Alot of people do not play with sound on and there are alot of players, like my wife, who are deaf. NO, the gump is suppose to be there and is not. Saying the it is the OP's fault trying to justify behaviour is what gives PVP the rep it has.
.......uhhhh what? I think your mind is bumblefutzed Bumblefutz
If we were to take a poll on whos post sounds angrier id say youd win hands down.
Normally that is what happens with most groups if you dont spazz out. there are 1-3 guilds on most shards where most players know it wont be the story but the rest will more than likely loot ya rez ya and if your still cool wont rez kill you and pass off the 105's and 110's and gold off at spawns. Respect plays a big part in pvp believe it or not, most pvp'ers know all the other pvpers on their shards, we know who is a tard who is cool 90% of the time when someone gets griefed its for a reason.
Someone stop the trolls!
The discussion is about : there's no warning when entering PvP side of the Abyss although devs promised there would be one.
1) Uo is amazingly violent and if you are comparing it to your childrens games based upon a 'walk by' you are clearly speaking without knowledgeI read this and had to LOL!!!!!!!!!!!11111!1one
Have you seen other games besides UO? Just walking by my kids consoles, I can tell ya, the violence and gore in UO has to rank somewhere way down there past 100!
Geeez, walking by the displays at Walmart and Gamestop gives ya more violence than ya get outta UO in a month...
Anyway, herein lies the problem with our world.
A "true" pvp'er, I respect for what they do and the skills they have. Player vs Player, like one guy said, the AI devs can't code
the PK'er on the other hand, is nothing more than a backstabber, a coward, the kind you find hiding in those dark alleys the poster above mentioned
So don't lump all pvp'ers in the same category, there are a lot of respectable and admirable pvpers out there, it's the small minority, as always, that's gives the group a black eye.
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I think we'll leave it at that....
