[News] FoF: Looking Forward

[Sheri_UO]

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a more complete package of fixes that would address the underlying problem

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Could that be a fix for the illeagle third party programs? God i hope so.

 

[imported_Lord Kynd]

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ok this is definitly not working correctly.
it is turned off while your in alternate moonglow i have tried over and over to tell my 'super' dragon to stop yet it continues to fight or chase whatever, also it ALWAYS remains guarding me.

perhaps a better fix for this would be to have ALL pet's, once stabled.... END all commands. after all they can't follow,guard, nor kill for you while in stable's.

 

[Pinco]

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"Why did my Paroxymus Swamp Dragon disappear?"

This is another one that we've been getting bug reports on, and we finally tracked down the source. While we can't replace swampies that have been lost, we are fixing the root cause of the disappearance and they should be much more reliable after the next publish.


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this is saying that the paroxy swamp cannot be dispelled anymore?

 

[Guest]

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Why the paid houses?

Perhaps the owners are just not able to play due to RL responsibilities. The first example that comes to mind are our military servicemen and women. These homeowners should be able to rest assured that their houses are safe as long as the account is paid for, regardless of log-ins.

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She said the accounts that only get paid once every three months, to reset the decay cycle on the house...not paid monthly by those folks who cannot play yet still pay.

 

[Flanuva101]

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Most guys I know who continually place at idocs have a paid account or 2 already dedicated specifically for placing so they can put the loot inside easy and sell the lot after.
So it may affect some of the ‘cheaper’ idocers but wont stop all of them. Maybe it’s a way for them to sell more accounts since more idocers will now have to have one older than 14 days to place lots.

The only thing slowing them down right now are water barrels so id like to see what the other fixes for this will be once the water barrel fix is put back in.

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Wont stop them all? So now we are out to get rid of Idocer's all together? Water Barrels always have been a cheap way for people who dont want to learn how to idoc properly to block placement. Sure, it blocks the scripter's, but also blocks the honest ones to.

 

[Flanuva101]

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"When are you going to do something about all the trial accounts that monopolize the good housing spots?"

15 days is a good change. Someone raised the question, why can't a new player on an old account get a placement. Well, some people keep accounts and do nothing but place. I propose 30 days, because that's the cut off for all of the rewards we get, and maybe stricter placement rules (like once every month, or something, per an account). However, IFF EA makes it so when a house falls, no one can place for 15 minutes, then everything else will make more sense.

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I can see it now, all the anti-idocing loonies will be complaining in a couple months about the amount of packies people are using to store loot on because they arent fast enough to grab the chests that fall. Here , let me help you with that....

EA, Please screw everyone else but me and allow me to have 10 packies at an idoc. I am not fast enough and dont want to learn idoc the correct way and everyone else is faster than me. ( insert sobbing and weeping sounds at random through-out this question to make it sound like a real issue).

Come on, Take out the programs and you will get rid of the scripters. Common sense people. There isnt a thing wrong with keeping an account to place. It hurts absolutely no one but the people that dont want to pay for another account.

Since 95% of the people want to put "strict" restrictions on everything that has to do with the idoc playstyle...I propose this......

Dear EA,

Since there are recent changes going to happen to the idoc playstyle i would request the following changes to other playstyles as well...

Limit the amount of Energy Vortex's people can cast within a 15 day time frame. While running DOOM recently ( I really dont run DOOM all that much but I can speak like I know what I am talking about, like all the people who wrote in about idocs) I ran into a lot of lag. Also, My Mage has only 45 Magery so I can not cast EV's ( Energy Vortex's ) like everyone else. I feel left out since I do not want to train my magery any higher and get the skills necessary to compete so please change this. ( If you want to lower the skill needed to cast EV's that would be great too). The reason for all this is there is too many people that want to put their time in to train to get better and I dont , I just want everything handed to me. Obviously, the more EV's that are cast the better chances you have at doing damage and getting an Artifact. Like I said before, I dont want to train and learn, I just want to be able to start a new char and run DOOM like the rest of the people that spent years doing it and have the same chances at Artifacts.

Man, that sounds about as stupid as everyone complaining about idocs that have absolutely no clue what the heck they are talking about.

Am I upset about the upcoming changes? Yeah. If the changes were proposed by people that actually idoc'ed in game, sure, lets discuss it. But proposed changes by people complaining just to complain shouldnt hold water. OBTW, when I say people that actually idoc'ed , I meant the people that do it every day, not the occasional people. Getting rid of Third Party Programs would be the only thing needed to ensure that all idocs are fair.

 

[Flanuva101]

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Why the paid houses?

Perhaps the owners are just not able to play due to RL responsibilities. The first example that comes to mind are our military servicemen and women. These homeowners should be able to rest assured that their houses are safe as long as the account is paid for, regardless of log-ins.

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She said the accounts that only get paid once every three months, to reset the decay cycle on the house...not paid monthly by those folks who cannot play yet still pay.

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We should be able to keep the houses that are paid for every 3 months. We pay for the accounts and should be able to do with them what we wish. The changes that are coming should only apply to the trial accounts and thats it.

 

[imported_tek]

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Most guys I know who continually place at idocs have a paid account or 2 already dedicated specifically for placing so they can put the loot inside easy and sell the lot after.
So it may affect some of the ‘cheaper’ idocers but wont stop all of them. Maybe it’s a way for them to sell more accounts since more idocers will now have to have one older than 14 days to place lots.

The only thing slowing them down right now are water barrels so id like to see what the other fixes for this will be once the water barrel fix is put back in.

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Wont stop them all? So now we are out to get rid of Idocer's all together? Water Barrels always have been a cheap way for people who dont want to learn how to idoc properly to block placement. Sure, it blocks the scripter's, but also blocks the honest ones to.

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I didn’t expect to be taken so literally – I wasn’t implying to eliminate all idocers just scripters and plot layers at idocs. Personally I think players should be prevented from placing a lot for an hour after a house falls, giving all idocers equal chance to grab items from the ground.

 

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I think that the changes to house placement should have been detailed by now. There is probably going to be a huge amount of discussion on them and holding it back until it is actually on Test Center could lead to big delays if something has been overlooked.

I am not even going to go into how a single weekend of testing for housing is simple not enough considering all the past changes have led to major issues and/or delays, including my own house contents decaying.

 

[chretain32]

I dont understand why everyone is upset about a new char not being able to place a house??? If you created a new char on your account why would u be upset cause u cant place with him. switch chars and place the house!!! jeez sounds like an excuse to pancake about something!!! unless your one of those weirdos that says wel I wanted my house to be owned by (Cool Daddy Luke) or some stupid named char U created just to own the house!!! cmon people!!!

 

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You act like placing a house is a skill, lol. Scripting or not, placing houses to secure an IDOC is about the lamest thing you can do at an IDOC. And you know what? If you can't do an IDOC without placing a house, then only do Fel IDOCs. Judging from your last post, you probably don't PvP, so I assume you mostly do Tram IDOCs

. Placing a house suggests YOU are not fast enough to loot. Maybe you didn't hear: PunkBuster was cancelled. EA is not going to block third party programs with this client for a long time, and even if you block the program, the game mechanics that allow the script to operate will still exist, which is why a delay after an IDOC fall is needed to prevent instant placement.

 

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I dont understand why everyone is upset about a new char not being able to place a house??? If you created a new char on your account why would u be upset cause u cant place with him. switch chars and place the house!!! jeez sounds like an excuse to pancake about something!!! unless your one of those weirdos that says wel I wanted my house to be owned by (Cool Daddy Luke) or some stupid named char U created just to own the house!!! cmon people!!!

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I dont understand why everyone is upset about a new char not being able to place a house??? If you created a new char on your account why would u be upset cause u cant place with him. switch chars and place the house!!! jeez sounds like an excuse to pancake about something!!! unless your one of those weirdos that says wel I wanted my house to be owned by (Cool Daddy Luke) or some stupid named char U created just to own the house!!! cmon people!!!

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Often times I will host an event and will want the house owned by a certain name for the event, granted this will not eliminate that but it irks me they could not come up with a better system that would only effect the trail account rather then everyone's established veteran accounts. I have never cared if the free trail accounts could place, my argument is that the clumsy proposed fix hits all players not just the trail account house placers.

 

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There a dozens of fixed that have been put in place to stop those who are exploiting and abusing systems...... LOOK at the Bag of Sending!.... That hurts the "normal" player more than the scripter..... but with this change to house placement..... at least those scripters will have to cough up the 12.99 a month to be placing at the IDOC's.... I'm sorry but I don't see any problem at all..... having to wait 15 days after creating an account... or character... big deal.... so schedual things a but further out... Honestly I can't at all see this effecting anyone negatively... And if you think I don't do IDOC's you got another thing coming.... I've been to my share.... Also have happened upon my share of homes that just "fell" without anyone ever noticing..... save me. I've seen the script placers in action..... amazing how fast they can drop a house before my computer even registers that the old one was gone suddenly there is a new plot in it's place.... and all the loot is locked under the house sign... *grummbles*.... do I think it will totally stop the problem with IDOCing..... NO..... do I think it will help some YES.... is it worth it ..... More so than the change to the BoS....

 

[imported_Sarphus]

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"What does the "You have too many pets guarding you" message mean, and how do I fix it?" &lt;/p&gt;
...Pets set to "guard" that are stabled still count towards this limit, so if you receive this message, the way to resolve it is to pull your pets out of the stable and tell them to "stop," which will take them out of guard mode and let you select a new guard dog, or cat, or pony, or... whatever.&lt;/p&gt;

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Wouldn't it be better to automatically take the pet out of guard mode once it has been stabled?

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I think it would be.

 

[Avalonia]

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Come on, Take out the programs and you will get rid of the scripters. Common sense people. There isnt a thing wrong with keeping an account to place. It hurts absolutely no one but the people that dont want to pay for another account.

Since 95% of the people want to put "strict" restrictions on everything that has to do with the idoc playstyle...I propose this......


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These "programs" do a lot of good for the game as well. If they banned everyone that has afk macroed or everyone that does afk macro then they wouldn't have many players left.

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Limit the amount of Energy Vortex's people can cast within a 15 day time frame. While running DOOM recently ( I really dont run DOOM all that much but I can speak like I know what I am talking about, like all the people who wrote in about idocs) I ran into a lot of lag. Also, My Mage has only 45 Magery so I can not cast EV's ( Energy Vortex's ) like everyone else. I feel left out since I do not want to train my magery any higher and get the skills necessary to compete so please change this. ( If you want to lower the skill needed to cast EV's that would be great too). The reason for all this is there is too many people that want to put their time in to train to get better and I dont , I just want everything handed to me. Obviously, the more EV's that are cast the better chances you have at doing damage and getting an Artifact. Like I said before, I dont want to train and learn, I just want to be able to start a new char and run DOOM like the rest of the people that spent years doing it and have the same chances at Artifacts.



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PLEASE...explain to me how exploiting the trial account system is equatable to training skills. Real IDOC players (which you obviously aren't if all you can do is whine about how you can no longer place on trial accounts) don't really need to place a house to get the items they actually want.

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Man, that sounds about as stupid as everyone complaining about idocs that have absolutely no clue what the heck they are talking about.


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Or those whining because changes are being made that make trial accounts trial accounts instead of idoc house placer accounts?

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Am I upset about the upcoming changes? Yeah. If the changes were proposed by people that actually idoc'ed in game, sure, lets discuss it. But proposed changes by people complaining just to complain shouldnt hold water. OBTW, when I say people that actually idoc'ed , I meant the people that do it every day, not the occasional people. Getting rid of Third Party Programs would be the only thing needed to ensure that all idocs are fair.

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They haven't gotten rid of third party programs in over 10 years. They will never get rid of third party programs. They tried once and a lot of people complained that they would never allow punkbuster on their computers so they backed off. I'm wondering, seeing it seems like you are whining because you now can't exploit trial accounts...were you one of the people that fought to keep punkbuster from being implimented also?

 

[Avalonia]

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Why the paid houses?

Perhaps the owners are just not able to play due to RL responsibilities. The first example that comes to mind are our military servicemen and women. These homeowners should be able to rest assured that their houses are safe as long as the account is paid for, regardless of log-ins.

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She said the accounts that only get paid once every three months, to reset the decay cycle on the house...not paid monthly by those folks who cannot play yet still pay.

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We should be able to keep the houses that are paid for every 3 months. We pay for the accounts and should be able to do with them what we wish. The changes that are coming should only apply to the trial accounts and thats it.

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Yes...so what if the system was designed for people that actually couldn't pay to play for 90 days for some reason. We should all exploit the hell out of it anyways, and nothing should be done to those that exploit.

 

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I know a guy who recently quit and has 40 xfer tokens in a elven chest in his house.... I think today is like almost one month since he left.

I MEAN COME ON, let it fall already Who know's what that pack rat has locked up in his house.

 

[Flanuva101]

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You act like placing a house is a skill, lol. Scripting or not, placing houses to secure an IDOC is about the lamest thing you can do at an IDOC. And you know what? If you can't do an IDOC without placing a house, then only do Fel IDOCs. Judging from your last post, you probably don't PvP, so I assume you mostly do Tram IDOCs

. Placing a house suggests YOU are not fast enough to loot. Maybe you didn't hear: PunkBuster was cancelled. EA is not going to block third party programs with this client for a long time, and even if you block the program, the game mechanics that allow the script to operate will still exist, which is why a delay after an IDOC fall is needed to prevent instant placement.

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I love it when people who dont want to learn to do idocs judge everyone else on the issue. And yes, it is a skill. I want to see you go up against the scripters and come out on top more than half the time. Oh wait, thats right, you want to sit back and complain rather than learning to do it the right way. If you had an account and did idocs religiously for almost 3 years, you would be doing the same thing. If they take out the program that auto places the houses then there wouldnt be a need to make all these changes.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with placing a house to secure an idoc. It is the nature of the game. It is only lame to you because you probably gave up in learning how to idoc. I hold classes once a week if you care to join btw.You place a plot, you get the most stuff. If anyone has an issue with that, pay for another account to stay on each month and learn to idoc the right way. I am not downing anyone who doesnt care to place, but when the option is there and you dont employ everything possible ( without scripting ) to get it, dont sit back and harass others for doing it. Either learn to do it fast enough to beat the scripters and others who have done it for years or pick up as much loot as you can without complaining.

On the third party program issue, you take it out and there wont be any script placers. There are ways to modify the code to prevent the third party programs from running with UO, BUT, they left it go for so long, if they stopped it now they would lose a big chunk of revenue.

As far as Fel goes....I do Fel all the time and actually do quite well. Come to Fel and I will introduce myself

Oh wait, damn that is another account. I guess I will be penalized for having too many accounts for idocing now.

 

[Flanuva101]

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PLEASE...explain to me how exploiting the trial account system is equatable to training skills. Real IDOC players (which you obviously aren't if all you can do is whine about how you can no longer place on trial accounts) don't really need to place a house to get the items they actually want.

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At no time did I say anything about whining about trail accounts? Trial accounts are fine to get rid of.

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These "programs" do a lot of good for the game as well. If they banned everyone that has afk macroed or everyone that does afk macro then they wouldn't have many players left.

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Wait, are you complaining about what I am saying or saying that it is ok to use the programs or AFK macro? Because it sounds to me that you either condone the use or at least use it your self. Dont come on these boards persecuting everyone about their thoughts and such when you yourself just admitted that it was okto script and afk macro. Your Credibility just went in the toilet my friend.

Your entire post is based on the fact you thought I was against EA setting the trial account fix. I never once said that or implied that. Get rid of it, it wouldnt bother me one bit. With that being said..onto the last segment of ....

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I'm wondering, seeing it seems like you are whining because you now can't exploit trial accounts...were you one of the people that fought to keep punkbuster from being implimented also?

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Judging from you being all for third party programs that allow scripting, I guess you voted not to accept Punkbuster. I have news for you friend, if you did the research before you threw stones, your glass house may not have been shattered...I wanted Punkbuster. I wanted it to work so everyone would be on the exact same playing field.

 

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"What does the "You have too many pets guarding you" message mean, and how do I fix it?"

Each character is only allowed to have 6 pets guarding it - this has always been true, but the latest publish introduced a message that actually tells you when you try to exceed that limit, instead of just failing to set the pet to "guard" mode. Pets set to "guard" that are stabled still count towards this limit, so if you receive this message, the way to resolve it is to pull your pets out of the stable and tell them to "stop," which will take them out of guard mode and let you select a new guard dog, or cat, or pony, or... whatever.


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I am still getting the message "You have too many pets guarding you" even after going thru each and ever pet, telling them to stop, all bars are blue, and when I pull my 'Super' and tell it to guard me, I see that message. Yet all the other pet's bars were blue, they have been told "All Stop", and they were all stabled. Is there a problem with the Super being 5 control slots and giving it a guard command?

 

[stevensnr6]

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"...paying customers"

14 Day "TRIAL" Accounts are a good step, but you need to GANK Housing Placement/Trading on all "TRIAL" Accounts...including the 30 Day ML New Account Codes (thousands of these floating about) and the 45 Day SE New Account Codes (probably less, but still out there).

Just saying, you are trying which is good, but execution is lacking...I guess someone that bought 5 copies of SE to Get The Limited Time, never to be offered again Soulstones...has 5 - 45 Day chances to skirt your fix.


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Well, I don´t think abusing free trial accounts that are meant for new players are the same as using account codes that U actually paid money for...

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I think any "Trial Membership" Account should be able to place...there has to be a way to do it...LIKE blanket gank the older than dirt Trial Codes...make them all 14 Day Accounts (not 30 days, not 45 days) =&gt; problem solved. But at least they recognize a problem and are throwing up a possible solution...throw enough crap on the wall, something will stick.