Monsters should put you in stat loss!

[GalenKnighthawke]

By your own admission you were looking for controversy.

You didn't find enough at first so you ratcheted things up.

You succeeded.

Oh well. What can you do, it's u-hall.

-Galen's player

EDIT: Oh dear, I didn't know you were an admin/mod until I tried to put you on ignore....My but that explains a lot!

So I shouldn't make posts or post ideas when I know people are going to disagree with me?

Yes, I knew for a fact there'd be some people all upset with the idea. I wanted to see how many. I was curious to see if there was anyone else like myself who feels there should be some sort of penalty for dying in this game. (My suggestion was temporary stat loss)

I figured there'd be some sort of debate. I was going to suggest longer stat loss for higher fame/karma monsters. I thought there was going to be more of a conversation and less "OMG FLUTTER IS TROLLING".
I expected there to be a lot of "NO OMG NO" and "ITS A GAME DONT MAKE IT HARDER" posts. That doesn't make the OP a troll.

Just because you know going into the post that people aren't going to all agree with you doesn't mean that it's against the rules to post it.

I'm glad it sparked some ideas in a few people's heads.

 

[Flutter]

I'm not an admin mod. I do not claim to be.

I was upfront about my opinions from the start.
I was curious to see how many people would be upset with this idea. I knew it wouldn't get the popular vote. I thought maybe after discussion people would start to come around to the idea because being effectively invulnerable in an MMORPG is stupid. I'm not following what's so wrong with this post.

If I were trolling you would know it, because there's a lot of things I could say about certain people's knee-jerk reactions.

Oh and Aran, I have you on ignore buddy (Have for the past 2-3 years?) no need to respond to me.

 

[Zosimus]

I thought it was odd myself because you dont have a mod or admin title but I went to check on Galen's idea and it does say you are a mod/admin and you cant be ignored lol.

So...Flutter wins stratics!

 

[kelmo]

I'm not an admin mod. I do not claim to be

I am a mod, one that is recognized. I know trouble when I see it.

I have seen sillier threads...

 

[Viper09]

So I shouldn't make posts or post ideas when I know people are going to disagree with me?

......

*palm in face*

Flutter, you OPENLY admitted all you were intending to do is see how many people would get upset over this!!!

So YES, it's an OBVIOUS troll! You can't change your statements after admitting it! LOL!

I was just curious to see how many people would get all upset over this..
(I really don't think it's a bad idea)

 

[Flutter]

So I shouldn't make posts or post ideas when I know people are going to disagree with me?

......

*palm in face*

Flutter, you OPENLY admitted all you were intending to do is see how many people would get upset over this!!!

So YES, it's an OBVIOUS troll! You can't change your statements after admitting it! LOL!

I was just curious to see how many people would get all upset over this..
(I really don't think it's a bad idea)

I'm not changing anything. I still say I was seeing how many people would be upset with this. I never changed anything.
It's still not a troll.

Right now in this game you are basically invulnerable. Nothing happens when you die. You don't even have to take time out to go get ressed anymore because there are items and self res spells.
I was curious to see how upset people would get if there was some sort of PENALTY for DEATH in uo so I made a post. I OPENLY said that several times.

It's not a troll. I had a conversation where this subject was brought up. Someone said "Too many people would be upset if there was a penalty for death so they'd just have to remove it, people already pancake about stat loss" to which I said "I'll make a post and we'll see."
It's not a troll. I didn't go into this looking to fight with UO players, just find out who agrees and what percentage this would upset. I don't know how many times I have to explain it. I've been pretty open about it. My reasoning for posting hasn't changed. Not following why there has to be all this drama about it.

 

[Flutter]

I am a mod, one that is recognized. I know trouble when I see it.

I have seen sillier threads...

Not so sure what's silly about it at all.

Should I have made a post and said "Let's just make our characters invulnerable to monsters" and see how many people I elated?

Maybe that wording would have been more acceptable to certain folks.

You can't even have a conversation anymore. If you openly post something that you know people aren't going to agree with you are automatically a big bad troll!

 

[Viper09]

You can't even have a conversation anymore. If you openly post something that you know people aren't going to agree with you are automatically a big bad troll!

Well if you didn't go and post that you just wanted to see how many people would get upset over this idea you probably wouldn't have a lot of people calling you a troll. Or perhaps you could have just worded it a lot better. Irregardless, that's perhaps your biggest mistake here, lol.

 

[Flutter]

Well if you didn't go and post that you just wanted to see how many people would get upset over this idea you probably wouldn't have a lot of people calling you a troll. Or perhaps you could have just worded it a lot better. Irregardless, that's perhaps your biggest mistake here, lol.

Psst... Irregardless isn't a word

Sorry if my wording offended.
I expected an uproar. I expected big debates. I expected people to at least talk about it, even if they were against it.

I didn't expect people to cry "troll" lol

 

[Viper09]

Psst... Irregardless isn't a word

Fun to say though, lol.

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

Psst... Irregardless isn't a word

Irregardless - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

I'm not an admin mod. I do not claim to be.

as the dictionary begs to differ with your view of the word "irregardless," the system begs to differ with your judgement about whether or not you are a mod.

Message
Sorry Flutter is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her.

*shrugs* Oh well. Seen this before. Multiple times as I recall.

-Galen's player

 

[Viper09]

as the dictionary begs to differ with your view of the word "irregardless," the system begs to differ with your judgement about whether or not you are a mod.

The legitimacy of that word is actually very debatable. It's more slang than official. The dictionary actually suggests that you use the word regardless instead so not sure I'd say it begs to differ, lol.

 

[kelmo]

*smiles* I think I may see you soon Flutter...

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

The legitimacy of that word is actually very debatable. It's more slang than official. The dictionary actually does not beg to differ though as it actually suggests you use the word regardless instead, lol.

She made a particular statement: That it was not a word.

The link directly refutes that particular statement.

She didn't say, "that is a word but its use is not recommended," which would have been 100% accurate.

-Galen's player

 

[Viper09]

Irregardless, I don't care really care

 

[Flutter]

*smiles* I think I may see you soon Flutter...

Got a guild for me?

 

[Petra Fyde]

An explanation and an apology.
Flutter is not Stratics staff, however she was nominated as a moderator on a guild forum I was asked to set up. The forum was never actually opened, there was some confusion over its purpose, but I forgot to remove the moderators of it.
I have now properly deleted the forum and all moderators have been removed.

 

[Flutter]

An explanation and an apology.
Flutter is not Stratics staff, however she was nominated as a moderator on a guild forum I was asked to set up. The forum was never actually opened, there was some confusion over its purpose, but I forgot to remove the moderators of it.
I have now properly deleted the forum and all moderators have been removed.

I tried to delete everyone who disagreed with me but it wouldn't let me.
Stupid moderator rights....

 

[Petra Fyde]

hehe, sorry. You only had moderator rights in a closed forum where no one could post.

As for the thread, I looked when it was reported. It seemed fairly harmless to me. No attacks on any person, playstyle or games company and no more a silly idea than at least two others currently on the board.

 

[Frarc]

I would not go for a stat loss. For if you die in battle your armor and weapons you are wearing should drop 10 durability at ones for all the items.

 

[Tanivar]

As for the thread, I looked when it was reported. It seemed fairly harmless to me. No attacks on any person, playstyle or games company and no more a silly idea than at least two others currently on the board.

Silly idea you say.

Wonder how many would vote Yes!!!! on a poll asking would you like to get "Mega Phat Superuber Loot for just logging in!

With the replies to this thread and the Poll I started, the answers would be overwhelmingly one sided wouldn't they. <chuckle>

Definitely got to spend more time on Siege. <g>

 

[Lost-Soul]

Make monster farming a little more challenging.
No one loses anything when they die now.
If you die to a monster you should go into stat loss.
Bad enough every wammie sampire monster farmer is out soloing everything.
It's supposed to be an MMORPG!

The way to do this is to add more faction monsters in game. For all those that use faction gear to pvm.

 

[UOKaiser]

Not so sure what's silly about it at all.

Should I have made a post and said "Let's just make our characters invulnerable to monsters" and see how many people I elated?

Maybe that wording would have been more acceptable to certain folks.

You can't even have a conversation anymore. If you openly post something that you know people aren't going to agree with you are automatically a big bad troll!

It is silly. Want to make a bet come to atlantic. I'll go with you to watch. I'll bet 10mil that you wont be able to lets see get the keys and kill hmm lets get the easiest one dreadhorn without dying at least once on your own with one character no help. Of course the rewards in even beating him once is not even worth the effort but thats how it is with anything outside of SA.