Magery on Siege

[Thoronion]

I've got a Legendary Armsman Samurai on Siege and it's all well and good, but I'm thinking of making a Sampire on Catskills, since i would lose all valuable items in a heartbeat on siege... therefore I was considering what new I could do with Thoron. A few days of messing around with my friend Ari on the Test Center are tempting me to play a mage... I do a lot fo solo PvM play and not much PvP, even on Siege... and it seems fun to do that as a mage, and even more fun to raise a Mage Tamer or Necro Mage with RoT instead of on a regular shard >_> . . . but I've heard that Blade Spirits and EVs are weaker than they are on other shards, which seems like it would hurt my soloing capabilities. So, how severe is this weakening of EVs? Would I be depressed about soloing anything worthwhile after putting 3 months into a Mage on Siege? How would Necro or Taming (or anything else) affect this?

 

[OldAsTheHills]

I've got a Legendary Armsman Samurai on Siege and it's all well and good, but I'm thinking of making a Sampire on Catskills, since i would lose all valuable items in a heartbeat on siege... therefore I was considering what new I could do with Thoron. A few days of messing around with my friend Ari on the Test Center are tempting me to play a mage... I do a lot fo solo PvM play and not much PvP, even on Siege... and it seems fun to do that as a mage, and even more fun to raise a Mage Tamer or Necro Mage with RoT instead of on a regular shard >_> . . . but I've heard that Blade Spirits and EVs are weaker than they are on other shards, which seems like it would hurt my soloing capabilities. So, how severe is this weakening of EVs? Would I be depressed about soloing anything worthwhile after putting 3 months into a Mage on Siege? How would Necro or Taming (or anything else) affect this?

I run with Magery, Eval. Int. , and Inscription GM+ and kill most monsters. You will have no chance killing an
Ancient Wyrm, and other massive hp monsters which just kill ya on sight.
But, you can do Paragon Titans. Takes a while, but it is doable! Daemons are
so fun to, the healers are so far away! *smiles*
Of course, PvM and PvP does not mix well solo.

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[Thoronion]

About how much weaker are EVs and BSs? Are any other spells nerfed on Siege?

 

[Petra Fyde]

I'm probably just a know-nothing crafter, but I've never heard that ev's and blades are weaker on Siege. As far as I know the only 'nerfed' spells are recall and telekenisis. You can't tele a treasure chest to avoid getting blown up.

 

[Draxous]

About how much weaker are EVs and BSs? Are any other spells nerfed on Siege?

Not true...

I play a mages exclusively on siege...

There's nothing I can't take on... PvM or PvP.

 

[Thoronion]

That's encouraging! I'm still torn between my current template of 120 macing tactics anatomy parry bushi 100 chiv, and a mage template... though most of what worries me is having sub-par spels because of the Siege ruleset... if that's not really a problem....

 

[Revvo]

I play a mages exclusively on siege...

There's nothing I can't take on... PvM or PvP

Are we up for a little wager on this statement?

 

[Draxous]

Are we up for a little wager on this statement?

????????????

What can't I take on?

 

[Revvo]

Solo as a mage?

Every peerless, most of the gauntlet bosses and with the recent health regen rates i would think most champ spawn bosses and a harrower. Not to mention the abcess, putrifier and the rend and probably a bunch extra named ML monsters, pretty much anything worth killing

 

[archite666]

I have to agree completly, a tamer , or certain dex templates are the ones that can take down the big baddies. Mages are for crowd control, ever tried killing an ancient worm with EVs? Not too easy.

 

[Draxous]

I have to agree completly, a tamer , or certain dex templates are the ones that can take down the big baddies. Mages are for crowd control, ever tried killing an ancient worm with EVs? Not too easy.

what about a tamer mage?

...

 

[Czarina]

I dont know bout all of you but i just use a couple earth eles and heal them and stand back and watch as they die faster then they would by a EV or me casting on them.

 

[Revvo]

what about a tamer mage?

...

Go try doing a Paroxymous with pets

 

[Petra Fyde]

The big baddies, like the peerless bosses, aren't meant to be solo'd, they're supposed to be a team effort.

Ancient Wyrms can be taken down with a combination of EVs and healed earth eles. I've watched my hubby do it many times on level 6 maps, which he solos.

 

[Razz]

I'm probably just a know-nothing crafter, but I've never heard that ev's and blades are weaker on Siege. As far as I know the only 'nerfed' spells are recall and telekenisis. You can't tele a treasure chest to avoid getting blown up.

From the Stratics Siege guide:
"The spells Blade Spirits and Energy Vortex have been weakened significantly"

I personally can't tell a difference with these spells on Siege and prod shards.

 

[Petra Fyde]

I've a feeling that information may be out of date. It's from when Siege was first created. While some of it is still valid, I'm not at all sure all of it is.

There have been several general changes to EVs and blades since that time. I think it's highly likely that, when doing those changes, the fact that the Siege version was initially different may have been forgotten.

 

[Draxous]

what about a tamer mage?

...

Go try doing a Paroxymous with pets

try pvping with the temp/setup you used to solo the paroxymous...

 

[Revvo]

Bushido/necro? Pretty sure it would work ok

 

[Scuzzlebutt]

Pretty sure ive seen Shakaja solo a paroxymas on a necro/chiv/bushido dexxer. I think thats viable in pvp as well.