Lucky Coins vs. SoT's

[Phaen Grey]

Pre-Fix I managed a single SoT for focus... Post-Fix I get a couple lucky coins a day. I don't want useless hour long buffs as a reward for not cheating the system. If the puzzle room is fixed, why are honest players being punished for the work/behaviour of others who abused the system?

 

[maroite]

It wasn't because of the abuse of the system. The cries of the masses (or not so much the masses, just the ones with big mouths) were shouting about 3.0 SoTs long before the abuse of the puzzle was wide spread.

I would like to see the SoT's return too, but I would much rather see more random common items added. I am just so tired of getting silly pillows....

 

[Smokin]

Why not put sots as a reward from the fountain, that we know can only be done once a day. Unless someone found an exploit for that too.

 

[legendsguy]

people will always, always find exploits

on a semi-related note: i use to find lucky coins on corpses on a semi-decent basis. now, i haven't gotten one in over a week! has the drop rate decreased or something?

 

[popps]

people will always, always find exploits

Well, then perhaps a more extensive testing before publish could be a good idea to avoid problems ?

Besides, I think to remember that almost right after publilsh several asian shards had their puzzles closed to prevent further problems.
On american shards, instead, it took much longer before they were shut down.

Why ?

If the information about the exploit was available early on (which apparently seems the case since the asian puzzles were shut down very fast), why not close ALL puzzle rooms on all shards and get a fix ?

Why the american shards took so much longer to get closed before the puzzle rooms were closed ?

 

[Farsight]

people will always, always find exploits

on a semi-related note: i use to find lucky coins on corpses on a semi-decent basis. now, i haven't gotten one in over a week! has the drop rate decreased or something?

I found three of those in an hour yesterday while doing the rotworm stew and candlewood torch quests.

I have no idea what the drop rate was before then.

 

[Theo_GL]

Pre-Fix I managed a single SoT for focus... Post-Fix I get a couple lucky coins a day. I don't want useless hour long buffs as a reward for not cheating the system. If the puzzle room is fixed, why are honest players being punished for the work/behaviour of others who abused the system?

As always - its another case of 'if you exploited the system - good for you!! You are now RICH from 3.0 SOT's with no repercussions'. If you did not - you are screwed as the reward is now gone and you didn't profit.

Pretty much the rule is if you find an exploit - exploit it like MAD until they fix it because after they will nerf it into oblivion.

On a related note - has anyone gotten a .1 to 1.0 Imbuing SOT from champs? I have yet to see one. If that is the case - then this sux x2 as it was the only way to get an imbuing SOT.

I'm happy they fixed the exploit but removing the reward hurts the players who did not game the system.

I'm kicking myself for not exploiting it now. Screwed again.

 

[Lord Gareth]

Well, then perhaps a more extensive testing before publish could be a good idea to avoid problems ?

Besides, I think to remember that almost right after publilsh several asian shards had their puzzles closed to prevent further problems.
On american shards, instead, it took much longer before they were shut down.

Why ?

If the information about the exploit was available early on (which apparently seems the case since the asian puzzles were shut down very fast), why not close ALL puzzle rooms on all shards and get a fix ?

Why the american shards took so much longer to get closed before the puzzle rooms were closed ?

Nothe Asian shards did not shut them down right after publish. I believe this was all discovered on the weekend as well. Didn't we shut ours down two days after? Now if we would have shut them down before the Asian shards and they still had them everyone would have thrown a fit.

Perhaps our team thought they would let other players go and do it for awhile longer that didn't know about it so they could get some 3.0 SoT. Give everyone a fair shot to get some stuff. Not just those who figured it out and were greedy. Which I think if thats the case was rather nice of our team

 

[Drazasamus]

i gotta disagree gareth... if that was the case they would have said " this is how you can do this puzzle 20 billion times today"... i believe it was a weekend, and ea don't work weekends

 

[DevilsOwn]

Perhaps our team thought they would let other players go and do it for awhile longer that didn't know about it so they could get some 3.0 SoT. Give everyone a fair shot to get some stuff.

am I the only person that has never had an SoT drop in that room?

 

[Yen Sid]

am I the only person that has never had an SoT drop in that room?

Seems to be that way, and now, unfortunately, you never will...

 

[Frey Wavestrider]

Not the only one, A lot of people who never used the exploit did not get any SOT's but because people did and others complained that the SOT's were too high, they will not drop now. So the people who played by the rules are given the short end of the stick.

 

[Prince Caspian]

Even though I still desperately need several, I am glad they got rid of the SoT award from the fountain.

Going through the motions of entering the proper sequence from your favorite online cheat sheet, for each of your mules, should not be rewarded with an SoT. If you want one, go to a Champ Spawn and work for one.

The "puzzle" is a joke. Each day it means less and less.

 

[Yen Sid]

So the people who played by the rules are given the short end of the stick.

... As always. This happens w/ everything really. (GD's dumbed down beacuse of PvPers comes to my mind as well).

 

[onthefifty]

they should bring the 3.0's back.

in my opinion they knew about the exploit. they left it in figuring the player base would farm it and the price of the items would go down. in the end this was in error because the player base screamed about the exploit and got it shut down, and prices didn't have a chance to come down.

be serious? a bag of sending? this exploit is about as common as it gets. they knew about it. period.

so now there gone, and there's nothing you can do about it.

for the record i got a 3.0 imbuing on the first day off the second character i took in there. no exploit, just the uo gods shining on me.

had it for 2 minutes before someone gave me 30 million for it.

go figure.

look at the abysmal cloth. they were selling for 1 mln a piece and now you can make them with the crys blackrock. now noone wants them.

the end game for uo is always about curbing inflation. however as in real life economics your not always successful doing so.

 

[Gowron]

As always - its another case of 'if you exploited the system - good for you!! You are now RICH from 3.0 SOT's with no repercussions'. If you did not - you are screwed as the reward is now gone and you didn't profit.

On a related note - has anyone gotten a .1 to 1.0 Imbuing SOT from champs? I have yet to see one. If that is the case - then this sux x2 as it was the only way to get an imbuing SOT.

I got a .3 imbuing scroll from a Champ Spawn.

 

[dielock]

I got a .3 imbuing scroll from a Champ Spawn.

I got a .8 imbuing scroll first time I did an Abyss Fell Champ.

 

[Theo_GL]

I got a .8 imbuing scroll first time I did an Abyss Fell Champ.

Ok thanks. I guess I'm still looking to understand if they fall at the pre-SA champs. Like Destard.

Anyone report an imbuing one from thereabouts?

 

[Endrik]

Ok thanks. I guess I'm still looking to understand if they fall at the pre-SA champs. Like Destard.

Anyone report an imbuing one from thereabouts?

Yep, I have gotten a .8 Imbuing from Despise

 

[legendsguy]

Pretty much the rule is if you find an exploit - exploit it like MAD until they fix it because after they will nerf it into oblivion.

quoted for truth. could we somehow get theo_gl's comment stickied? whenever i find an exploit, i exploit the hell out of it 'cause that's what uo wants you to do.

 

[cutty]

i have recieved a couple of small imbuing scrolls from the ilsh spawns. throwing and mysticism too.

 

[Kalonis]

Bug Fixes:



Fixed an issue that allowed gloves to show properly on the paperdoll
Fixed an issue with Hair Restyling deeds showing Gargoyle Horns in the gump
Fixed an issue with Animal form and Bola’s, players would instantly resurrect and have a death shroud and hue.
Fixed the issue with Hitching Posts causing the players backpacks to become bugged.
Bola’s will now give a criminal action query when used.
Reduced Suteks roaming range
World Building fixes to lava areas
Fixed the issue where horns were dropping as loot
The small square basket now requires SA Entitlement
Retextured the death shroud
Fixed an issue to allow Faction players from triggering a trapped chest to deny giving faction scores and stat loss
Fixed an issue with impassable cave tiles and walls
Exploit – Players will no longer be able to use the Bag of Sending on the puzzle boards.
Plant clippers will now cut any plant that has the word Decorative in it
Crafting Items will no longer bark “I’m in the hack!!!”
Players can no longer unravel items after they have been traded
Gruesome standards should now be 10 stones
Snake Skin Boots and all masks (bear, deer and tribal) are now dyable with staining dyes
Gem’s color rotation now has a chance of being blaze.
Players can no longer build gargoyle dressers on gargoyle couches
Snake charmer flute recipe now requires 3 luminescent fungi instead of 2 blights to craft
Players will be able to meditate while wearing Gargoyle Jewelry without imbuing mage armor into it.
Fixed an issue with Personal Attendant dupes
Special leather bonuses should no longer apply to cloth armor
Both facings of glass swords can now be used as ingredients for crushed glass
Spinning Wheels should no longer get stuck in use. Players should be able to deed them without any issues.
Fixed an issue with Scroll Binders, Alchemy scrolls will no longer be shown as Anatomy scrolls when bound.
Removed Trap scrolls placed in binders having a TID error
Fixed an issue with players having SA entitled pets in their stables without the entitlement on their accounts
Clothing bless deeds can now be used on Gargish Robes
Added Gargoyle furniture to the dyable list for furniture dye tubs
Players can no longer tame the temporary summoned Raptors
Fixed an issue with Vet Reward Statues coming to live when attacked
Fixed an issue with Medusa petrifying your pets and the pet losing their original hues.
Slasher will no longer use the fear effect on ghosts
Giger no longer hates Neville, therefore he can talk by without taking cannon damage.
Candle of Love will no longer stack.
New gargoyle books have been updated to be included with the inscription skill
Fixed an issue with seams in Ruin Walls
Mud Puppies and Red Herring deeds should redeed correctly now.
Fixed an issue with Navrey spawning in locations players can not reach
Gargish furniture will actually be two lock downs. Players will be able to put items on each side. You will only have to lock down/secure one side for both sides to lock/secure
Fixed an issue with Guilds dropping their guild leaders. The guild system will now appoint a new leader if the original one is dropped.
Niporailem will now switch targets properly if the original target is unavailable
Faction guilds can no longer be in an alliance with non faction guilds.
Fixed an issue with SA cave entrances blocking caves in legacy.
Fixed an exploit where players were getting multiple puzzle boxes. Puzzle boxes will now delete themselves when placed on the floor and someone tries to pick it up.
The treasure/sand will no longer be blessed, it will fall to the players corpse
Fixed an issue with the wizard hat twitching while sitting
Fixed an issue with Fishing poles being destroyed
Fixed an issue with players being teleported into the ground at the Primevil Lich champ spawn
Fixed an issue with players not being able to buy from Gargoyle Vendors
Players will no longer get the “no container” message when trying to get the pet food they do not want.
Tasty Treats will no longer stack
Fixed an issue with Treasure sand being statics when dropped.
Iron Beetle no longer requires taming to control (still needs SA entitlement)
Gargoyle Race change tokens are now blessed
Fixed an issue with the Experimental Gem in the Puzzle room
Fixed an issue with the Abyssal Infernal’s special condemnation attack causing players to become stuck
Fixed an issue with the Despise bridge causing Line of Sight issues
Casting while holding a weapon will no longer damage the weapon.
Damage rate of weapons have been adjusted.
Players who log out in the lamp room or trap maze puzzle room, will be teleported to a different location at log in.
The 3.0 SoT reward from the trap maze puzzle has temporarily been replaced by a Lucky Coin.



It should come back eventually unless some Mythic Dev said otherwise after the patch notes.

 

[Phaen Grey]

The 3.0 SoT reward from the trap maze puzzle has temporarily been replaced by a Lucky Coin.

It should come back eventually unless some Mythic Dev said otherwise after the patch notes.

Love how vague this one is stated, no indication of how long temporary is.

 

[Lord Drakelord]

It wasn't because of the abuse of the system. The cries of the masses (or not so much the masses, just the ones with big mouths) were shouting about 3.0 SoTs long before the abuse of the puzzle was wide spread.

I would like to see the SoT's return too, but I would much rather see more random common items added. I am just so tired of getting silly pillows....

yep, I also have enough of the bowls and boards as well.