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Of course they said its 50/50 bc if the truth was out there and it was 70% CC and 30%EC then we might have a problem
. I have a good idea on what I think the % is. The 100's of people I know I would say honestly 25% at most play the EC and that's a decent sample size.
I'm willing to bet Mesanna is right... I'm betting more folk use the EC than you think... and most of them don't come to Stratics.Of course they said its 50/50 bc if the truth was out there and it was 70% CC and 30%EC then we might have a problem
Ok you had a stratics poll and it went in favor of CC, People I know and talk to use the CC for the most part, like I said in a previous post 75% CC 25%EC and that's being generous. I don't know how many times you need to look at the sky to see it's blue... If they decided to scrap the EC UO would live on but if they scrapped the CC UO would no longer exist. That's a fact JACK!
I know that more and more players make the switch when they see what the EC can do and they want it. So I know I'm right. I also know tons of folk who haven't visited Stratics in YEARS and they use the EC... I I'm fairly certain that Mesanna is not lying.
They must be those advantages we're talking about.
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excuse me but 4 out of the 5 voices in my head say that the classic client is better. thats 80%. so my opinion is clearly the correct one.
So you do agree if the EC went away UO would still survive but if the CC went away it would be the end for UO. That can tell you something. Search your feelings you know it to be true
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Ok how about this? What about those of us like me who are not smart by any means and just have no idea how to use EC? The only reason I can use the CC is because I have been here for its evolution. I mean I'm seriously dumber than crap when it comes to computers.
And just for the record I think both clients are Jurassic and for evidence I submit the T-Rex!
And just for the record I think both clients are Jurassic and for evidence I submit the T-Rex!
A few of the ECer's are going to scream SACRILEGE!!! You just called what they consider the greatest software ever created JURASSIC!!!
If the EC went away I'd be done with UO. Unless of course they took it away to give us a real 3d client. If left to return to the CC I would rather just quit.
In my opinion there are a good number of old games that have much better art design than a lot of the 100m dollar semi-photo realistic modern ones.
They have zero reason to lie, and you really have zero reason to believe they are lying. If you are just going to deny even the devs word on it, what can anyone really say?Of course they said its 50/50 bc if the truth was out there and it was 70% CC and 30%EC then we might have a problem
Also 100 people is not a good sample size for a group of some 1000's. Even if its just 5k that's far too low for an accurate poll.
And still the same argument at the same spot. More playing of whatever client and less useless posting
all I care is things to be fair between the clients, I see posts about suit swapping should be only for ec, just use ec, ect.... it is clear some people want an advantage. I know many cc users have no idea what ec can do with pincos. if they did they would not be happy. all I'm saying is, by making one client better than the other is not good for the game. some people like to argue, on and on and on. lets do what's best for game, fix and improve things, stop cheating, have fun.
The point is they shouldn't even be supporting that garbage cc client.
You jurassics should be happy you can log in at all with it.
The classic client isn't what's keeping UO alive, it's what's killing it.
EC client (gamebyro) client is the same game engine used for games like Rift, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout.
We could have a far better looking game than what we have right now, the reason we don't is continued support of the crap client:trying to get UO to look like the CC client in the gamebryo engine.
Everything about the gamebryo is better.
Time to move on folks, and stop living in the stone age...
You jurassics should be happy you can log in at all with it.
The classic client isn't what's keeping UO alive, it's what's killing it.
EC client (gamebyro) client is the same game engine used for games like Rift, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout.
We could have a far better looking game than what we have right now, the reason we don't is continued support of the crap client:trying to get UO to look like the CC client in the gamebryo engine.
Everything about the gamebryo is better.
Time to move on folks, and stop living in the stone age...
Good luck with that when you're pvp'ing. Dress macros in the CC switch one piece at a time. In the time it takes for you to switch a MINIMUM of 8 pieces that way, you'll most likely be going OoOoOoOoOo. For pvm it's not too big a deal...if you're a tamer. Invis/hide, switch suits, boom, you'll be wearing your Luck suit shortly.
Why don't you do yourself a favor then, and log in with a better client..which has a modern UI?
You jurassics really are screwing yourself over by continuing to use that fossil of a client.
It's WAY better folks...
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The number of times he uses the term he must be trying to start a brand or something... or he may just not be a very good at having a discussion with people.
Definitely that. I'm surprised he hasn't started calling us geriatric yet.
I've done some things in the EC, usually backpack related. I can't stand how it looks...and I'm usually not one to complain about graphics being bad considering I was an NES baby way back in the late 80's/early 90's. If it didn't look like utter crap I would actually use it. I like some of its features, but...
Let me fix it for you. Repeat ICON
Are you still running LPs too?
It's the digital age...there are things things called MP3, wavs, etc...
There's this new client called the EC...maybe you've heard of it...
Your gonna say it's a broken record..and your grandchild is gonna ask you: " What does that mean? Broken record!?"
Get with the times folks.
Time to move on from the jurassic period...
Oh my .......... and CC never has bugs or problems? I play EC and I hear my people I play with that are in CC complain a lot more about client crashes and bugs than what few problems that I have.
You do realize that every CC user there is knows your spouting garbage when you say that don't you?
Nope, I know I'm not and that's all that matters. Why CC haters believe that the EC is garbage is who is spouting garbage, how would you even know, I'd venture to say you haven't played it as long as we have so how can you even judge it.You do realize that every CC user there is knows your spouting garbage when you say that don't you?
Why would I have played it for years as you apparently have, a few months made reality clear, the EC has problems and annoyances I don't like. Enough have jumped on the 'It's the newest! It's therefore greatest! bandwagon to keep it from fo0llowing Third dawn into the trash. So be it, we have a second client the devs won't finish because they know it's not worth the bother and are just placating it's users enough to keep them from quitting.
I never said its good to switch ar with assist. I know both Clients.
I play EC because of the fancy **** it provides. I would not go back.
And iam not sure why the CC players still bash the EC it looks the same. Like ****. But hey. Thats the way it is
Why am I still reading this thread?
I dont understand your logic when referring to the Classic Client as "Jurrassic" other than to troll. The ECs tech and graphics are of the same era.
when the EC was released in 2008, the graphics and interface were already 5 years out of date. its laughable to even think to call the EC client "modern"
Easiest example: WoW was released in 2004. i think that statement speaks for itself
If CC is jurrassic, what dinosaur age is EC?
please stop trolling with referring to CC as "old".
Everytime you do, you reveal ignorance of the last 20 years of gaming history.
Practically speaking, EC is just as out of date, old, "jurrassic" as the Classic Client.
If UO had the resources i can guarantee you the EC would be killed off in favor of 1 Classic Client with a slightly updated interface. Its a shame the work on the EC has sucked the devs dry. if EA were smart they would have embraced UO as a retro game, it will never be "modern" but that type of game is actually becoming very popular in the last 5 years. If EC had been trashed we would have a much better, single client for sure. It should have never been released in the first place.
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I think it's not so easy as all here say. There is no black and white here.
Its greyish i think. Programming the CC i think is not very good as its outdated stuff. Which means its harder to get personnel who is skilled in that.
Also even the EC got a way more modern Engine below its maybe not the best also.
But thinking the handfull of devs with 2-3 Programmes can make something new is wishing and i dont believe in miracles.
I think it was a strategic descision to push EC. Therefore we have to live with that.
It doesn't matter which personal favorite each of us have. I would not waste my time to hope for adjustments in CC.
Personally i see that CC got some stuff i like: following, riding, some parts of grafix.
But I arranged my self with the EC due to the benefits it gives me. And everyone who say the CC is the better client is blind sorry.
It is way more Advanced and got much more Features.
When it comes to Bugs i would say it's even.
But in the end everbody has the right to play the client he like.
I think it's not so easy as all here say. There is no black and white here.
Its greyish i think. Programming the CC i think is not very good as its outdated stuff. Which means its harder to get personnel who is skilled in that.
Also even the EC got a way more modern Engine below its maybe not the best also.
But thinking the handfull of devs with 2-3 Programmes can make something new is wishing and i dont believe in miracles.
I think it was a strategic descision to push EC. Therefore we have to live with that.
It doesn't matter which personal favorite each of us have. I would not waste my time to hope for adjustments in CC.
Personally i see that CC got some stuff i like: following, riding, some parts of grafix.
But I arranged my self with the EC due to the benefits it gives me. And everyone who say the CC is the better client is blind sorry.
It is way more Advanced and got much more Features.
When it comes to Bugs i would say it's even.
But in the end everbody has the right to play the client he like.
@Finley Grant
i agree for the most part, i just dont think EA was smart to try to make UO "modern" and did not have the foresite that retro games would be very popular now (not relying on graphics)
i realize the dev team is too small now to do anything. i was speaking of around 2006 when the EC was in the works. during that time i think a totally new client could have been made with some slight updates.
Hate to say it but think free shards. they can do much more than is possible in the old code of the CC, but it has the exact same look and feel of the classic client.
the EC was a mistake.
im more than likely to quit UO altogether, because of the disparity of features between the 2 clients than switch to looking at graphics of the EC.
this post is about switching luck suits, and is perfect example of the stituation. i dont bother doing pvm anymore because its not really worth it for high end mobs unless you have luck. i dont bother doing pvp anymore because of the unequal competition. And those 2 things are most the daily game. But the EM events, crafting, and house deco are enough to keep me playing this retro game (plus my subs are paid up for like 3 years already so might as well)
i agree for the most part, i just dont think EA was smart to try to make UO "modern" and did not have the foresite that retro games would be very popular now (not relying on graphics)
i realize the dev team is too small now to do anything. i was speaking of around 2006 when the EC was in the works. during that time i think a totally new client could have been made with some slight updates.
Hate to say it but think free shards. they can do much more than is possible in the old code of the CC, but it has the exact same look and feel of the classic client.
the EC was a mistake.
im more than likely to quit UO altogether, because of the disparity of features between the 2 clients than switch to looking at graphics of the EC.
this post is about switching luck suits, and is perfect example of the stituation. i dont bother doing pvm anymore because its not really worth it for high end mobs unless you have luck. i dont bother doing pvp anymore because of the unequal competition. And those 2 things are most the daily game. But the EM events, crafting, and house deco are enough to keep me playing this retro game (plus my subs are paid up for like 3 years already so might as well)
i didn play when EC was added so i dont know the situation back then.
i had lot of problems when i switched to EC, for about 2 weeks i was between F***** this **** and praying that it get better.... well it gets better and to be honest except 2 or 3 things which still piss me off you get used to it. even the "fancy" grafix.
but ofc all folks have to decide themself if you switch or not...
i had lot of problems when i switched to EC, for about 2 weeks i was between F***** this **** and praying that it get better.... well it gets better and to be honest except 2 or 3 things which still piss me off you get used to it. even the "fancy" grafix.
but ofc all folks have to decide themself if you switch or not...
??!! They slipped in an ungodly amount of unsnafuing on the EC the last year or so?!
If they did I may try it again, worse graphics or not.
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Always wondered why I never liked the "art" in those games.. now I know why. Thanks
Agreed, they can even sell a "Backpack Mannequin" on the UO Store to accomplish the task. That'd be $4.95-$9.95 outta my pocket and a few other pockets fast I would imagine...
see.. ya gotta give them an income stream possibility to get some action at times
I don't agree with it being sold from the store, but I guess if it were I would be buying a few.
mostly because we have a monthly subscription, EC users essentially got it for that and so should we CC users.